Hey guys,
I wanna show you a quick comparison gallery that I just did with my iPhone 4S since I received two Xperia Z with Sharp and JDC display.
I know the picture quality is not the best but I don't have any other camera at the moment.
I still don't know which display is the best, are very different from each other...What do you think?
All the pictures with the Sony stock images are taken with the luminosity at 50% the others are all at 100%.
Comparison Gallery - Flash
Comparison Gallery - Dropbox
I hope this can be useful to you all.
eduardschulze said:
Hey guys,
I wanna show you a quick comparison gallery that I just did with my iPhone 4S since I received two Xperia Z with Sharp and JDC display.
I know the picture quality is not the best but I don't have any other camera at the moment.
I still don't know which display is the best, are very different from each other...What do you think?
In the first page all pictures are taken with the luminosity at 50% except the last two, second page all at 100%.
Unfortunately I can't post any link since I'm new here, so copy and paste this:
eduardschulze.com/Sony_Xperia_Z_JDC_vs_Sharp
I hope this can be useful to you all.
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looks like jdc has better colors
ihaxda1 said:
looks like jdc has better colors
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I agree, also better viewing angles but the white temperature without any calibration is better on the sharp.
Almost forgot, all the pictures are with the Bravia Engine turned off.
This difference may decrease with the correct settings for white balance, no?
Thanks for your work :good:
JDC or Sharp screen Regions ?
eduardschulze said:
I agree, also better viewing angles but the white temperature without any calibration is better on the sharp.
Almost forgot, all the pictures are with the Bravia Engine turned off.
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Thanks Bro !
So Any Confirmation about where the JDC screen Panel inerted/used & In which Region/Country the Sharp panel are Used in Xperia Z/ZL?????
Nice thanks for the comparisons. Looking at these it is clear that the JDC panel is calibrated different, which has a hue shift strong to the red and blue channels.
What also doesn't help here is you are not straight on, and in many cases there is light bleed and reflections onto the Sharp display, not going to help the case.
If I compare these shots on my phone, I would say that my sharp display with BE2 switched off falls somewhere between both of these, with a tendency closer to the JDC display samples with no screen calibration.
eduardschulze said:
Hey guys,
I wanna show you a quick comparison gallery that I just did with my iPhone 4S since I received two Xperia Z with Sharp and JDC display.
I know the picture quality is not the best but I don't have any other camera at the moment.
I still don't know which display is the best, are very different from each other...What do you think?
In the first page all pictures are taken with the luminosity at 50% except the last two, second page all at 100%.
Unfortunately I can't post any link since I'm new here, so copy and paste this:
eduardschulze.com/Sony_Xperia_Z_JDC_vs_Sharp
I hope this can be useful to you all.
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Shame on you OP, shame on you!
You're just teasing us by linking to a site that requires Flash in an Android forum.
Anyway, here's the link for others that do have Flash installed (I dont):
http://eduardschulze.com/Sony_Xperia_Z_JDC_vs_Sharp
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Could you take some pictures with the Bravia Engine on both devices turned on? Interesting to see the differences...
maybe JDC is better than Sharp :good:
I have both JDC and Sharp.
I think Sharp is better.
For JDC,
White text will turn into red while scrolling. (Try it in setting menu)
EG8196 said:
I have both JDC and Sharp.
I think Sharp is better.
For JDC,
White text will turn into red while scrolling. (Try it in setting menu)
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i do think the same after comparing two displays...overall sharp is good
There is a way to detect if the display is a JDC or a Sharp?
There is an app somewhere for this?
danw_oz said:
Looking at these it is clear that the JDC panel is calibrated different, which has a hue shift strong to the red and blue channels.
What also doesn't help here is you are not straight on, and in many cases there is light bleed and reflections onto the Sharp display, not going to help the case.
If I compare these shots on my phone, I would say that my sharp display with BE2 switched off falls somewhere between both of these, with a tendency closer to the JDC display samples with no screen calibration.
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My thoughts exactly. Although, I have ZL (all so far have sharp panels) but I've compared it to & seen many XZ screens (with sharp & JDC ones).
I think default white balance is better on the sharp ones & there is a bit purplish (red/blue) hue on the jdc ones. That being said, I think not all sharp/jdc displays are same either (at least on the demo units). Out of the two, I prefer sharp on retail units (like the one on my ZL), not the demo ones.
waveloom said:
There is a way to detect if the display is a JDC or a Sharp?
There is an app somewhere for this?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182432
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waveloom said:
There is a way to detect if the display is a JDC or a Sharp?
There is an app somewhere for this?
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Check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38922765
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alias_neo said:
Shame on you OP, shame on you!
You're just teasing us by linking to a site that requires Flash in an Android forum.
Anyway, here's the link for others that do have Flash installed (I dont):
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Really sorry man..I made this gallery in a couple of seconds directly in PS, no mobile version
Sorry about that.
wevie said:
Could you take some pictures with the Bravia Engine on both devices turned on? Interesting to see the differences...
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If I have time next week I will.
eduardschulze said:
Really sorry man..I made this gallery in a couple of seconds directly in PS, no mobile version
Sorry about that.
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If you want i can rip it and re post in something viewable by mobile somewhere. Like jpgs...Let me know..
From your sample, I feel JDC do slightly more vivid but tend to over warm by default, it was much more yellowish.
As for the full brightness in black, this part showing Sharp much constant and better, no bleeding issue.
Mine is Sharp, I had use ZL white balance to gain better white, less yellowish.
Related
Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!
ethan3686 said:
Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!
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Could have been better if you can provide pictures.
they didnt let me do that there..i was at a local store..I'll try to pursue next time..But trust me ZL is more brighter..Can there be a mod to increase XZ brightness??..
Bcoz it looks dull in comparison! But i want the XZ only
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Was it a demo unit or a retail unit ? All demo units have the ****TY JDC panels. Retail models in most countries have the Sharp panel (same as the one on ZL)
I guess both were demo units..Coz there was some videos of each's advertisemnt going on once u leave them doing nothing..but cud be some screen saver too. but i could be wrong too! bcoz one guy bought the XZ and it looked same.
P.S. Also look here even pocketnow notices the screen difference..guess we will have to wait for gsmarena -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siiv2XltFXY
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ZL uses Sharp screen only, whereas Z first batch has panel lottery and demo units get poor panels. So you can't compare that way. GSMArena got the second worst panel (JDC) so obviously ZL review they will rate the display better but it's pointless as they didn't review Z with sharp panel.
Z with sharp panel will be same as ZL.
So how do i know which is the sharp panel? anyway of knowing from the box? bcoz they will open it only if i buy it!
XZ brightness is fine, whatever you and the others say is exaggerations!
I just received my ZL on Friday, i must say the ZL is more comfortable to hold in my hand and screen is a bit better. sad but going to sell my Z soon
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Xperia z has infrared option...?
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gclancer said:
I just received my ZL on Friday, i must say the ZL is more comfortable to hold in my hand and screen is a bit better. sad but going to sell my Z soon
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Do you have a picture that shows the screen of the z and zl? I am quite curious because i am about to get the zl but is discouraged after reading reviews regarding the screen of the z.
Did you tried to uncheck AutoBrightness, and set the brightness level at maximum level? Doing so i found XZ to be very bright. In fact too bright for normal usage. Sony should tweak AutoBrightness in the next update. Also should discard gray theme. Replace it with black. Bad mistake that gray.
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ARC X12 said:
Do you have a picture that shows the screen of the z and zl? I am quite curious because i am about to get the zl but is discouraged after reading reviews regarding the screen of the z.
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Brightness on the ZL is set to the lowest but color wise is still more vibrant than the Z
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its the second time ive seen comparisons like this, not only could the exact same screen be calibrated differently towards warmer and darker colours, (software, not hardware) but if you look closer they are different pictures, and picture colours could have been tweaked before its displayed on screen for exanple take a screen shot of wallpaper vuew it with bravia on, then do another screen pic and save as wallpaper. “Ohh! Look everyone my, my screen is more vivid and has better contrast then your screen! Yeah! You suck! Iam the winner, martin sheen is winning"
Dunno about you guys, but I don't have my brightness set up all the way on my XZ. It's too bright for my taste. 60-80%max.
Maybe thats why my battery lasts so long?
mtechfan said:
Dunno about you guys, but I don't have my brightness set up all the way on my XZ. It's too bright for my taste. 60-80%max.
Maybe thats why my battery lasts so long?
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i leave mine @ 40% with autobrigthness "on". works well for me even under the desert sun... at noon.
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its the second time ive seen comparisons like this, not only could the exact same screen be calibrated differently towards warmer and darker colours, (software, not hardware) but if you look closer they are different pictures, and picture colours could have been tweaked before its displayed on screen for exanple take a screen shot of wallpaper vuew it with bravia on, then do another screen pic and save as wallpaper. “Ohh! Look everyone my, my screen is more vivid and has better contrast then your screen! Yeah! You suck! Iam the winner, martin sheen is winning"
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No even using live wallpapers the ZL screen looks better than XZ
Use calibration software ported from zl.
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JDC is actually the superior panel.
Please see the thread on panel identification. Someone posted comparison pics.
Sharp Panel is inferior and abysmal.
ethan3686 said:
No even using live wallpapers the ZL screen looks better than XZ
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I agree. Compared my Zl screen with three XZ screens at two different sony stores & found that ZL screen indeed has better viewing angles & colour vibrance than those on XZs. I tested same wallpaper using album app at full brightness & bravia engine enabled (adapt to light checked) in all the units. Sorry that i can't provide any photos of the same.
why none of the android phones has it
even the cheapest tv has an option the control colors so a 700$ phone doesn't have?!
the screen look like **** on the z and in when i look at the same things with bravia they look great
ihaxda1 said:
why none of the android phones has it
even the cheapest tv has an option the control colors so a 700$ phone doesn't have?!
the screen look like **** on the z and in when i look at the same things with bravia they look great
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the Z does have a white balance option
it does nothing i want to make the screen more colorful
i have to edit every wallpaper i use to have colors
ihaxda1 said:
it does nothing i want to make the screen more colorful
i have to edit every wallpaper i use to have colors
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then you should buy a samsung. the xz screen shows natural colors not the over saturated samoled crap.
skinsfanbdh said:
then you should buy a samsung. the xz screen shows natural colors not the over saturated samoled crap.
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i dont see any natural color the screen looks boring too white
Xperia Z display shows terrible black clipping with firmwares .253+
Sony tried to show us an illusion of better black levels after .253 update, but black levels are exactly the same as before .253. Terrible black clipping is now showing us an illusion of better black, but all they really did with new screen calibration is that all near black levels are completely black and there is no detail in black scenes. Everything is just black.
ihaxda1 said:
i dont see any natural color the screen looks boring too white
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looks fine to me as long as your looking at it straight on. the xz doesnt have the best viewing angles as we already know but i think the screen is pretty damn good. there is really only one phone that has a better screen imo and it is the htc one. use a rom that has more of a dark theme if is the white that bothers you
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netmanslab.sa
Try that
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MattJaO3D said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netmanslab.sa
Try that
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only problem with this app is its made for super amoled screens " the app can be useful for some devices and very helpful in the reading or making images more natural on the overcolored screens"
naga.nino said:
Xperia Z display shows terrible black clipping with firmwares .253+
Sony tried to show us an illusion of better black levels after .253 update, but black levels are exactly the same as before .253. Terrible black clipping is now showing us an illusion of better black, but all they really did with new screen calibration is that all near black levels are completely black and there is no detail in black scenes. Everything is just black.
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i think the screen is great and sharp
just the colors sony need to fix this boring colors make them more vibrant
I think the colors are ok, but the screen technology is absolute [email protected]! You can easy see the backlit lighting through the screen edges, and that is in my opinion, the couse for poor viewing angles! The light makes white shade over the screen. Too bad, Xperia Ultra is obviously same technology, as we can see from the reviews! Shame on you Sony! These could been the really outstanding devices!
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andro6600 said:
I think the colors are ok, but the screen technology is absolute [email protected]! You can easy see the backlit lighting through the screen edges, and that is in my opinion, the couse for poor viewing angles! The light makes white shade over the screen. Too bad, Xperia Ultra is obviously same technology, as we can see from the reviews! Shame on you Sony! These could been the really outstanding devices!
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yeah they put cheap stuff in the devices
but what can we do now they got our money they dont care now...
naga.nino said:
Xperia Z display shows terrible black clipping with firmwares .253+
Sony tried to show us an illusion of better black levels after .253 update, but black levels are exactly the same as before .253. Terrible black clipping is now showing us an illusion of better black, but all they really did with new screen calibration is that all near black levels are completely black and there is no detail in black scenes. Everything is just black.
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That's exactly what I've noticed too! The dark images lose all the detail because the dark colours gamut is very limited!
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Sup Z1 owners,
Ok so I went to a store, and bought a Z1. Than I compared to the retail model. And this the result. Sony are you serious, you ruin everything.
Cheers,
If you want post your pictures
My device (I returned already) is on left side obviously and looks sooo ****ty on the screen.
The other screen is awesome! Compared to note 3 its almost as good as note 3's screen
How can i check what kind of displey i got on my z1?
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Mine is same as the right one. JDC screen model number BH904**
and the .537 (old) build has the optimized back light... the latest software updates doesnt have it anymore
Morlock O said:
Mine is same as the right one. JDC screen model number BH904**
and the .537 (old) build has the optimized back light... the latest software updates doesnt have it anymore
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you lucky
where did u buy it?
jader13254 said:
Sup Z1 owners,
Ok so I went to a store, and bought a Z1. Than I compared to the retail model. And this the result. Sony are you serious, you ruin everything.
Cheers,
If you want post your pictures
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What the hell??
Even my Xperia Z has way better screen, comparable to the right one.
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Yea will order a few Z1 online maybe I'll get a good screen.
Screen updates yes it was fixed but some changes gave yellow tint again.
I guess u have to wait for a minor fix.
Trying on debug mode wait.......
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BLEK0TA said:
How can i check what kind of displey i got on my z1?
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I'm curious too... can anybody explain how to get this info?
all c6906 come with screens on the right
Yeah my screen looks like the right one, even a little better, your case is extreme dude
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Here's a comparison between the bh90f and cb512 the 512 has jdc screen the other has sharp.
Oddly the jdc is the left one, IRL it has nicer greys/whites and no yellow hue.
I had good screen on 534
Became yellow on 257
Did a factory reset, and now fine on 257
Try it, it might work
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Where the hell we can find that SN?
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i just received my xperia z1 today in videos to me the display looked great it must be JDC displays in ever video because my device looks like the picture in the right i have been waiting to receive this phone for a while and now i can say the display does not look any better than my xperia s's i might have to go back to my s4 good thing i still have it i am disappointed with this display
wow, yeah that's what some of yall was referring to with the yellow issue.
Mine def does not look like that.
C6906 bought directly from Sony Store in Canada.
So this is the famous yellow hue in the Z1. Now I can said I am lucky one for some aspects, not all.
you are all seriously out of proportion, first of all, it's almost impossible to tell whether your screen does or don't look like a screen you see through a photo, perhaps your computer screen is yellow!
second it's much easier when you look at it next to another phone.
third, stop the bs, z1 has much better viewing angles than the xz, take one and compare other than that, it is no amoled, can't do **** about it, but when viewed from usable angle (and i mean an angle where you can use your phone, not one that you can see it) the screen is absolutly stunning.
this comes from someone who compares to other friends phone have a tad more yellow screen, perhaps...
shteren said:
you are all seriously out of proportion, first of all, it's almost impossible to tell whether your screen does or don't look like a screen you see through a photo, perhaps your computer screen is yellow!
second it's much easier when you look at it next to another phone.
third, stop the bs, z1 has much better viewing angles than the xz, take one and compare other than that, it is no amoled, can't do **** about it, but when viewed from usable angle (and i mean an angle where you can use your phone, not one that you can see it) the screen is absolutly stunning.
this comes from someone who compares to other friends phone have a tad more yellow screen, perhaps...
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In addition to what you said, the white balance in that OP shot, was so wrong into the warm scale that it is going to make everything look ten times worse than reality, although it does still show that there is in fact a difference, would have been good to know that your brightness on both were the same, because I am sure they were not, all shops I went to had the slider on max and the phone shipped doesn't so you would have to consciously have to make that change. Because I can simulate with one phone, just buy using the brightness slider the same as your opening post
I have a fully professionally calibrated screen and my phones white standard matches my screen almost perfectly, most people from what I can gather prefer a more cold white, if so +8 green and blue makes my Z1 similar to my Z and more close to the HTC One.
Both devices needs calibrating.
Maybe there is a different lightsource hitting on the right, but that one to me seems to have too much red in it.
The white balance app is up for grabs.
Someone who has two z1's in close proximity should try testing and see if they can get them to be equal, and if that fails, I'd be more inclined to believe there are that many "faulty screens"
Sony, please fix white balance in your sensors
Alpha (samsung sensor), S5 (samsung sensor), Xperia Z2 (sony sensor)
http://s7.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2014/08/4852cf32c73ac8ec285af5208a61ef0e.jpg
Alpha (samsung sensor), One (ST-Microelectronics sensor)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x899q50/905/Ze9koK.jpg
Alpha (samsung sensor), iPhone 5s (sony sensor), One (ST-Microelectronics sensor)
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/361x729q90/538/gk9sUE.jpg
Alpha (samsung sensor), Note 3 (sony imx135), Galaxy S4 (Samsung S5K3L2)
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/362x726q90/742/Ah95zi.jpg
All have Sony imx214 sensor
http://i7.minus.com/iykeN9YJNectJ.jpg
Alpha (samsung sensor), Lumia 1020 (nokia sensor), Nokia 808 (nokia sensor)
http://s7.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2014/08/57f72f2f5d1ee2e1d60a38236f0d10c2.jpg
Also Samsung sensor (lenovo k920) vs Sony sensor (lg g3)
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/lenovo-vibe-z2.shtml#s7
samsung sensor vs sony sensor
http://pp.vk.me/c619218/v619218401/ad50/vZosnbAwfNo.jpg
http://pp.vk.me/c619218/v619218401/ad49/TX4mRgFNq3I.jpg
http://pp.vk.me/c614824/v614824401/15efd/3awlVBQMNfo.jpg
http://pp.vk.me/c614824/v614824401/15ef4/hCockYiBow4.jpg
http://pp.vk.me/c618826/v618826401/95e9/7bw7hDlOdSg.jpg
http://pp.vk.me/c618826/v618826401/95e2/NMeVKQWoFs0.jpg
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-G3-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S5_id3724/page/3
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...one-5s-LG-G2-Sony-Xperia-Z2-HTC-One-M8_id3728
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...hird-time-in-a-row-LG-G3-close-second_id57178
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...G2-iPhone-5s-HTC-One-M8-Sony-Xperia-Z1_id3694
White balance is a function of the image processing, not the sensor. (And it's very much personal taste, too. Some want all trace of the original light source removed, others prefer some to remain.)
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knoxploration said:
White balance is a function of the image processing, not the sensor. (And it's very much personal taste, too. Some want all trace of the original light source removed, others prefer some to remain.)
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Nobody wants to have yellow pictures and videos, you're lying, just nobody looks the tests and comparisons
"White balance is a function of the image processing, not the sensor"
Why apple, samsung, lg, sony, xiaomi, oppo, oneplusone shooting the same yellow photo and video?
sonyfan12 said:
Nobody wants to have yellow pictures and videos, you're lying, just nobody looks the tests and comparisons
"White balance is a function of the image processing, not the sensor"
Why apple, samsung, lg, sony, xiaomi, oppo, oneplusone shooting the same yellow photo and video?
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Wow no need to accuse him lying dude. I personally don't have any problem with the slight yellowish tint. I believe sony wouldn't be so reckless to release sensors that are "bad" as they tested it. IMO maybe its just like the screens we have on different phones like samsung like it super saturated and other not really. Matter of preference i would say.
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zyotty said:
Wow no need to accuse him lying dude. I personally don't have any problem with the slight yellowish tint. I believe sony wouldn't be so reckless to release sensors that are "bad" as they tested it. IMO maybe its just like the screens we have on different phones like samsung like it super saturated and other not really. Matter of preference i would say.
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After z3 and this screen of z2 is quite in keeping with Sony
samsung gives you the opportunity to choose between normal and oversaturation colors, and oversaturation occurs only at srgb images (95% of all content), because this mode is designed to adobe rgb images
sonyfan12 said:
Nobody wants to have yellow pictures and videos, you're lying, just nobody looks the tests and comparisons
"White balance is a function of the image processing, not the sensor"
Why apple, samsung, lg, sony, xiaomi, oppo, oneplusone shooting the same yellow photo and video?
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If I'm lying, explain why standalone camera manufacturers are specifically adding a feature to their cameras that retains some color from the source lighting. (Eg. Pentax's Color Temperature Enhancement aka CTE white balance, which will intentionally give slightly warm /yellowish results under incandescent light).
And if it's a function of the image sensor, not the processor, please explain how standalone cameras yield different results when using the same sensor, or for that matter why you can adjust those results yourself when you shoot raw?
If you can't answer either of those (and you can't), then I'm not lying and you owe me an apology.
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knoxploration said:
If I'm lying, explain why standalone camera manufacturers are specifically adding a feature to their cameras that retains some color from the source lighting. (Eg. Pentax's Color Temperature Enhancement aka CTE white balance, which will intentionally give slightly warm /yellowish results under incandescent light).
And if it's a function of the image sensor, not the processor, please explain how standalone cameras yield different results when using the same sensor, or for that matter why you can adjust those results yourself when you shoot raw?
If you can't answer either of those (and you can't), then I'm not lying and you owe me an apology.
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You answered. "adding a feature" "under incandescent light"
About sensors I answered in first post. This is engineer mistake or bug on low level (soft)
sonyfan12 said:
You answered. "adding a feature" "under incandescent light"
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Please answer again, but this time in English and using whole sentences.
About sensors I answered in first post. This is engineer mistake or bug on low level (soft)
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Sensors do not choose white balance; the processor does. The "low level soft" [sic] that you referred to is in the processor. Other than analog-to-digital conversion, no processing is done in the sensor itself. Not all sensors even do A-D conversion on-chip, though most do these days. All the sensor itself does is count photons and clock the data off for processing externally.
knoxploration said:
Please answer again, but this time in English and using whole sentences.
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What you do not understand? You answered your own question. "adding a feature" "under incandescent light"
Sensors do not choose white balance; the processor does. The "low level soft" [sic] that you referred to is in the processor. Other than analog-to-digital conversion, no processing is done in the sensor itself. Not all sensors even do A-D conversion on-chip, though most do these days. All the sensor itself does is count photons and clock the data off for processing externally.
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Sensor passes more warm and less the rest of the spectrum. Again. Why apple, samsung, lg, sony, xiaomi, oppo, oneplusone shooting the same yellow photo and video?
sonyfan12 said:
What you do not understand? You answered your own question. "adding a feature" "under incandescent light"
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No, I did not. My question was why, if nobody wants the original source lighting to remain visible (eg. warmth under incandescent and sunlight, especially sunset light; cool under fluorescent, etc.), is this feature intentionally being added to standalone cameras?
The answer, since you're too cowardly to admit you're wrong, is that it is being added precisely because people *do* want some hint of light source hue to remain, because it looks unnatural to your eyes if for example shots clearly under incandescent light show no warmth -- because if you were there your eyes would perceive warmth.
Sensor passes more warm and less the rest of the spectrum. Again. Why apple, samsung, lg, sony, xiaomi, oppo, oneplusone shooting the same yellow photo and video?
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You clearly know nothing about how image sensors work. I suggest you go do some reading on the topic.
knoxploration said:
No, I did not. My question was why, if nobody wants the original source lighting to remain visible (eg. warmth under incandescent and sunlight, especially sunset light; cool under fluorescent, etc.), is this feature intentionally being added to standalone cameras?
The answer, since you're too cowardly to admit you're wrong, is that it is being added precisely because people *do* want some hint of light source hue to remain, because it looks unnatural to your eyes if for example shots clearly under incandescent light show no warmth -- because if you were there your eyes would perceive warmth.
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Why not original?
Watch my links, original color is not yellow. If in the room or outdoors will be a source of yellow light, the normal sensors (samsung, nokia, st-microelectoronics) show it. Sony sensors distort colors, everywhere showing a lot of yellow, where it is not. Admit it already. It's obvious. You just humiliate yourself and look like a goner fan
You clearly know nothing about how image sensors work. I suggest you go do some reading on the topic.
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lol. just go away
sonyfan12 said:
Why not original?
Watch my links, original color is not yellow. If in the room or outdoors will be a source of yellow light, the normal sensors (samsung, nokia, st-microelectoronics) show it. Sony sensors distort colors, everywhere showing a lot of yellow, where it is not. Admit it already. It's obvious. You just humiliate yourself and look like a goner fan
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No, they don't. If you have yellow pictures outdoors, you have a problem. Perhaps you should stop smearing peanut butter on the lens.
lol. just go away
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I've got an easier solution. You're a troll; you're on ignore. Buh-bye now, you don't get the last word.
knoxploration said:
No, they don't.
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omg
If you have yellow pictures outdoors, you have a problem. Perhaps you should stop smearing peanut butter on the lens.
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WHAT?
comparison wth DSLR cameras
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/366x727q90/633/39sG4t.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/367x734q50/907/N17fTs.jpg
Is it me or I haven't ever had this problem? My pictures don't have a yellowish tint, but thats maybe cause I always choose the settings in manual. But also if the pics look yellowish on the screen on the Z2... You can make the white balance better? I can tell you the settings to put to fix that OS wide yellow, it gives you real whites!
ArmedHitman said:
Is it me or I haven't ever had this problem? My pictures don't have a yellowish tint, but thats maybe cause I always choose the settings in manual. But also if the pics look yellowish on the screen on the Z2... You can make the white balance better? I can tell you the settings to put to fix that OS wide yellow, it gives you real whites!
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He's not interested in help, he's trolling. (And gets very angry when you point out that he has no idea what he's talking about.)
knoxploration said:
He's not interested in help, he's trolling. (And gets very angry when you point out that he has no idea what he's talking about.)
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I guess his name gives it away.
ArmedHitman said:
Is it me or I haven't ever had this problem? My pictures don't have a yellowish tint, but thats maybe cause I always choose the settings in manual. But also if the pics look yellowish on the screen on the Z2... You can make the white balance better? I can tell you the settings to put to fix that OS wide yellow, it gives you real whites!
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Because you do not compare. I thought so too until comparisons. Settings do not help, I've tried. And all of these tests are also made with normal settings
knoxploration said:
He's not interested in help, he's trolling. (And gets very angry when you point out that he has no idea what he's talking about.)
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goner fan attacks
i had quite a terrible yellowish hue to alot of my indoor pictures but my new unit doesnt suffer this problem, they are just lightly tinted yellow with correct manual settings
outdoor shots in daylight are solid, color reproduction is solid
i do believe the sensor may be at fault because this issue arises across all firmwares weather the camera driver be peices of stock.. or ones built from scratch
lets hope your reading sony...
Sony, why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OgN7fSbgxU
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/189f/cr44xqo6abt2wy3fg.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/8d86/6gc5rrrtr412h2dfg.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x899q50/538/PrHm5r.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x899q50/540/TKHy7h.jpg
May be just a defective model? Tried to replace it?
Sony loves color tint on its camera first purple then red
doctor_droid said:
May be just a defective model? Tried to replace it?
Sony loves color tint on its camera first purple then red
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This is not my tests. This defect in the software, it does not always correctly defines color balance
also
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHhz6rJxH0&list=UUYRkOO_tpXUtlrk4ojpZesA
sonyfan12 said:
This is not my tests. This defect in the software, it does not always correctly defines color balance
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHhz6rJxH0&list=UUYRkOO_tpXUtlrk4ojpZesA
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Cant see YouTube wid my college wifi....
Report it to sony mobile forum...they may have a look at it..
I wouldnt say a red tint...
Galaxy Alphas video colours are much warmer and Z3's is more neutral.
Pretty sure the colours can be tweaked.
King p1n said:
I wouldnt say a red tint...
Galaxy Alphas video colours are much warmer and Z3's is more neutral.
Pretty sure the colours can be tweaked.
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I wouldnt agree....redness is seen specially on the steel part of the pic...which should be silver greyish
King p1n said:
I wouldnt say a red tint...
Galaxy Alphas video colours are much warmer and Z3's is more neutral.
Pretty sure the colours can be tweaked.
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Look at the clouds and the wall of the house
I'm not seeing any problems either.
I dont see a problem either. you can choose the white balance and it'll look just like the galaxy alpha if thats what you like. maybe sony should default to that mode because its pleasing to the eye and would get more buyers.. exactly why samsung and apple do it.
also, what with people all uploading 4k recordings at 720p? thats kinda defeating the purpose a bit...
I think it appears only in the video
Photos is very good
Xperia z3 have the same problem
The video is really bad - colours are way off. It's nothing like as noticeable in the photos, with the exception of the ferris wheel. It's pretty obvious on that one.
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satchef1 said:
The video is really bad - colours are way off. It's nothing like as noticeable in the photos, with the exception of the ferris wheel. It's pretty obvious on that one.
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Last two pictures from video. It is not photo.
z3 videos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/white-balance-video-t2889760
same. good photos, but bad videos