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Hi everybody! I have some "newbie" questions about CyanogenMod 9...
1. Is it really faster compared to stock ICS? I haven't overclocked the processor and my main problem with ICS, is that the default launcher has a little stuttering some times and it's not absolutely smooth. In CyanogenMod9, the "Trebuchet" launcher is almost at the same level in terms of "movement flow".
I had Nova launcher previously and I'm thinking of installing it again on CyanogenMod 9...will this be a right move?
2. What else is better than the stock ICS there? Ι already use that marvelous power widget inside the notification bar, but, except some similar workflow tweaks, I can't see anything else...any feature list compared to the stock ICS 4.0.4?
3. Why the torch toggle-in-notification is disabled in settings? (the pre-installed torch seem to work perfectly)
4. Screen brightness gets increased when there is a lot of light around, but It doesn't decrease its brightness when I go in a dark room again...Am I doing something wrong? (I haven't touched those sensor filters etc...)
Can you please help me? I'm not a developer and I'm mostly concerned about a smooth and fast experience.
1. Make a nandroid and try it out yourself.
There is no right move. Do whatever it is you want. Your phone won't explode if you install the "wrong" launcher.
2. Take a look at the popular roms in the dev section and repeat #1. Or look at bedalus's benchmarks if you're really that apprehensive.
3. probably hasn't had the bugs worked out.
4. again, maybe a bug. After you flash a couple of roms I'm sure you'll see that you can get #3 and #4 working.
More doing and less thinking. As I said, you have a nandroid to fall back on.
erikikaz said:
1. Make a nandroid and try it out yourself.
There is no right move. Do whatever it is you want. Your phone won't explode if you install the "wrong" launcher.
2. Take a look at the popular roms in the dev section and repeat #1. Or look at bedalus's benchmarks if you're really that apprehensive.
3. probably hasn't had the bugs worked out.
4. again, maybe a bug. After you flash a couple of roms I'm sure you'll see that you can get #3 and #4 working.
More doing and less thinking. As I said, you have a nandroid to fall back on.
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Thanks for the response!
1. If you read carefully my post (sorry for my bad English), you will understand that I already have tried CM9 v6.0 and that was the reason I wanted to know more, because I don't see any performance improvement over stock ICS 4.0.4 on my Nexus S. Am I wrong? There must be some objective reasons except my judgement.
2. I was talking specifically about CM9 features.
3. I figured that with the torch...it's probably not ready yet. I can't find any post about the brightness though (there are so many options there which I don't fully understand and brightness never works as it should).
4. I don't want to flash other roms...I have already flashed Wildestpixel's roms and I didn't see an obvious performance difference too...
For trebuchet if you check (or unchecked I forget) the join with apps setting it makes the launcher just as smooth as gingerbread
Well, I switched from Bugless Beast today to latest CM9 nightly (15.4, not the KalimochoAz version posted on here).
Haven't tried CM9 for a while and it surprised me, speed wise and stuff integrated in it. I'm a fan of stockish ROM's, that's why I used BB since ICS came out. What made me stay is:
- integration of BLN & Voodoo sound, meaning I don't need to run those 2 apps in BG (saves memory ofcourse, I'm a sucker for optimization)
- BigMem is quite noticeable, also RAM free right after clean flash is about 200MB (vs 140MB on AOKP, which is the ****tiest, meaning when I use the apps I have in BG, there was constant launcher restart - low on RAM)
- seems like internal storage speed is faster, I noticed level loading on Where's my water game is perhaps the same as on GB (was waay slower when ICS came out)
- nice UI optional goodies in the ROM but still without AOKP "lets **** everything in" bloat (battery %, power key camera shutter, custom autobrightness levels, T9 dialer). Wanted those on BB, where they were out of question, since BB is more stockish.
- no weird governors, OC or voltages, just ondemand/cfq as on stock, don't use deep idle
So for me, it's a good sweet spot between stock and custom ROM.*
*Disclaimer:
I've used BB for months & AOKP for 2 weeks, both on SimpleKernel, which is basically stock with added BLN&Voodoo. I don't fiddle around with OC/Governors. Those are my observations and I don't intend to debate "why you didn't use "xxkernal v.9302".
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For trebuchet if you check (or unchecked I forget) the join with apps setting it makes the launcher just as smooth as gingerbread
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Thanks!!! That seems to work most of the times!
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Well, I switched from Bugless Beast today to latest CM9 nightly (15.4, not the KalimochoAz version posted on here).
Haven't tried CM9 for a while and it surprised me, speed wise and stuff integrated in it. I'm a fan of stockish ROM's, that's why I used BB since ICS came out. What made me stay is:
- integration of BLN & Voodoo sound, meaning I don't need to run those 2 apps in BG (saves memory ofcourse, I'm a sucker for optimization)
- BigMem is quite noticeable, also RAM free right after clean flash is about 200MB (vs 140MB on AOKP, which is the ****tiest, meaning when I use the apps I have in BG, there was constant launcher restart - low on RAM)
- seems like internal storage speed is faster, I noticed level loading on Where's my water game is perhaps the same as on GB (was waay slower when ICS came out)
- nice UI optional goodies in the ROM but still without AOKP "lets **** everything in" bloat (battery %, power key camera shutter, custom autobrightness levels, T9 dialer). Wanted those on BB, where they were out of question, since BB is more stockish.
- no weird governors, OC or voltages, just ondemand/cfq as on stock, don't use deep idle
So for me, it's a good sweet spot between stock and custom ROM.*
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I've used BB for months & AOKP for 2 weeks, both on SimpleKernel, which is basically stock with added BLN&Voodoo. I don't fiddle around with OC/Governors. Those are my observations and I don't intend to debate "why you didn't use "xxkernal v.9302".
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Thanks you very much for your observations! I want superfast stockish roms too, so I guess I will stick to the latest nightly for the moment.
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Thanks you very much for your observations! I want superfast stockish roms too, so I guess I will stick to the latest nightly for the moment.
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Today, I'm trying out the 1200 OC, works completely stable so far, playing with the phone over half an hour now. 1400 rebooted after couple minutes. Try it out !
About brightness decrease, you need to enable it in extra auto-brightness settings at the bottom.
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Today, I'm trying out the 1200 OC, works completely stable so far, playing with the phone over half an hour now. 1400 rebooted after couple minutes. Try it out !
About brightness decrease, you need to enable it in extra auto-brightness settings at the bottom.
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Thanks for the tip! Do you know what actually happens when "system update" detects an update? What is it actually after? An official post 4.0.4 update or a CyanogenMod update? Also, what happens in each situation? Can it be updated OTA?
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Thanks for the tip! Do you know what actually happens when "system update" detects an update? What is it actually after? An official post 4.0.4 update or a CyanogenMod update? Also, what happens in each situation? Can it be updated OTA?
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K, back to stock values, because after some time on 1200 sensors stopped working.
Nope, OTA won't work, the update is for CM I think.
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Well I've tried most of the best out there and I think cm9 is far the smoothest rom out there. So stick with it. If you want to enhance ur experience with it then try pics reloaded I just love it.
Now the only thing left is search key mod foe recent apps to be modded with cm9 v6 cuz I tried the latest and it wipes out a lot of my options.
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Have you checked out the ICS ROM Benchmark Chart? Surprisingly, CM9 is ranked way at the bottom.
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Well I've tried most of the best out there and I think cm9 is far the smoothest rom out there. So stick with it. If you want to enhance ur experience with it then try pics reloaded I just love it.
Now the only thing left is search key mod foe recent apps to be modded with cm9 v6 cuz I tried the latest and it wipes out a lot of my options.
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Just made it for recent 15.4 build, should work on v6 I think : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25022665&postcount=216
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Have you checked out the ICS ROM Benchmark Chart? Surprisingly, CM9 is ranked way at the bottom.
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Screw benchmarks, usage experience counts and it's not measurable.
Agreed those who actually perform better in bench mark end up being a nuisances. If u want a daily driver stick with cm9 its glitch free.
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I'm using CM9. Last rom I tried was AOKP build 32, but I went back to CM9.
Why the need? Just for extra features? Is there any *perceivable* performance benefits when using custom ROMs?
EDIT: What about custom kernels + AOSP, any real improvement here?
You're the only one who can decide that. You already have stock, so the custom ROM's will only be giving you a (relatively) small set of added features, many of which can be duplicated with individual apps/mods. Performance benefits are debatable - a custom ROM will give you greater ability to tweak things and possibly speed it up, but on the flipside there's a greater likelihood of messing something up. In my case, the phone is already working as fast as I can imagine, so I'm not sure exactly what performance benefits I would see.
Note that rooting is a separate story, it does allow you to install mods that make the phone a better experience (battery circle as example).
edit: it could be worth installing a stock ROM that's been deodexed, allowing for more mods. I'm thinking about that.
personally I think AOKP and CyanogenMod bring a lot to the table. They essentially fill in gaps Google's left behind. Things like 4.1+'s broken notification system where the phone vibrates on all notifications as a global setting (no option to disable unless you go to silent), despite each app having individual vibrate settings.
It's screwups like these that piss me off. CM makes it easy to fix these things.
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personally I think AOKP and CyanogenMod bring a lot to the table. They essentially fill in gaps Google's left behind. Things like 4.1+'s broken notification system where the phone vibrates on all notifications as a global setting (no option to disable unless you go to silent), despite each app having individual vibrate settings.
It's screwups like these that piss me off. CM makes it easy to fix these things.
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huh...somehow I hadn't realized that, even though my phone's been vibrating away. That is an annoying bug.
CM has faster download speed on WiFi than stock
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Stock is no slouch.
Many AOSP ROMs are no slouch either.
I've come to rely on many of CM's features, so that's what I typically run. As a feature list gets longer, so does the potential bug list though. I've yet to experience a mission critical bug on any ROM I've daily driven; you can usually determine very quickly if a ROM promises a lot of bugs, or is the right one for you.
I don't notice any performance benefits from roms, that's mainly kernel related. I flash roms for the extra features.
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I don't notice any performance benefits from roms, that's mainly kernel related. I flash roms for the extra features.
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DITTO.
asawoszc said:
DITTO.
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When on AOSP, you flash ROMs for the features, the performance gain isn't noticible- ill be rolling stock rom and custom kernel
As much as I like CyanogenMod and it's additional features, I get worried that the performance is sometimes stunted by the open source drivers for key parts of the phone, which sometimes lack the performance and stability of the closed source drivers from the stock ROM. This was my experience from my former phone, the i9000.
Is it the same case for the Nexus 4 and CM? Or is everything completely opened up because it is a AOSP phone (therefore no chance of drivers becoming a cause of performance issue)?
Thanks for the responses, my Nexus 4 is due to arrive in "6-7 weeks".
Tundraswan said:
As much as I like CyanogenMod and it's additional features, I get worried that the performance is sometimes stunted by the open source drivers for key parts of the phone, which sometimes lack the performance and stability of the closed source drivers from the stock ROM. This was my experience from my former phone, the i9000.
Is it the same case for the Nexus 4 and CM? Or is everything completely opened up because it is a AOSP phone (therefore no chance of drivers becoming a cause of performance issue)?
Thanks for the responses, my Nexus 4 is due to arrive in "6-7 weeks".
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Most of the drivers here are open source. This is an AOSP phone! A built from AOSP will the same as your stock rom.
Besides that there are some niceties of the Qualcom chipset which are under lock&key and proprietary. Some custom kernel's replace these with open source alternatives. (Franco & Faux for example). But as far as I can tell these guys are in the business of stability :good:
Ok, so I've had my Nexus 4 for 2-3 weeks, I'm very impressed.
Though I'm missing some of the little tweaks I used to have when I used CM10.1 on my old phone.
Things I'm concerned about on CM:-
Battery performance
Video decoding compatibility/performance
Camera performance
Can anyone who has experience advise if there any noticeable differences between stock and CM regarding these points?
First one I don't know since I don't run cm.
The rest will be the same as stock. Unlike your old phone ( probably). Cm doesn't have to do any hackery to get things like the camera to work on a officially supported nexus device.
Coming from CM on both the i9000 and the S3, it works flawless on my N4.
I don't notice any performance changes with either CM or AOKP, but I've come to rely on their added features. I also have a custom kernel (franco)...not sure the performance has changed with that either, but battery life is definitely improved.
Running AOKP with Franco r53 surely does make a difference to me. Screen time streched 1 hour more, I like the UI way better because it's so tweakable and other added functional features really get the most out of my phone like lock the screen with the home button drag and more status bar tile functions.
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Remcotjuuh said:
Running AOKP with Franco r53 surely does make a difference to me. Screen time streched 1 hour more, I like the UI way better because it's so tweakable and other added functional features really get the most out of my phone like lock the screen with the home button drag and more status bar tile functions.
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Screen lock with home button? What a great idea. I have been looking for an app to do that and found a few....but they all have there quirks.
Only thing that I can't get my head around is if there is room for improvement, why don't Google implement it?
I'm not taping about features but performance.
I guess they just want go promote Google Now with it since it opens that by default.
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Custom kernel - Yeah I notice a big difference between franco and stock (roughly double the battery life for my use case.)
Custom rom - The big thing for me was getting control of my volumes, stock you can't set a separate volume for notifications and ringtones but with AOKP I can. Outside of that though I don't notice much difference but I also picked the least different rom.
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Screen lock with home button? What a great idea. I have been looking for an app to do that and found a few....but they all have there quirks.
Only thing that I can't get my head around is if there is room for improvement, why don't Google implement it?
I'm not taping about features but performance.
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Google seems to always leave things in a state of perpetual "beta", I've also noticed that they like to break things and instead of fixing them they take the attitude of "that's how it is now and it's better".
Fortunately they also release phones like the n4 that allows people to hack the crap out of it so some very smart people can fix those mistakes.
This is the official "which is the best or favorite ROM/KERNEL for the Nexus 7 Thread"
In lieu of all the threads recently being created, asking the same question "which is the best, fastest, least trouble free" ROM for the device, this thread has been created. This thread also covers Kernels.
Notice, all other threads asking the same question, will be deleted and re-directed here. This is in an effort to keep the number of new threads lower, and to enable better searches for people looking for an answer.
Thread Rules
1. No Flaming and no arguing. Everybody has a favorite.
2. No links to external Sites. The ROMs must be linked at XDA
3. No linking to Non-GPL
4. No Profanity (or acronyms used to cleverly disguise such words)
Keep it clean people.
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Thanks for locking my thread and opening this about best ROM for nexus. I will watch this thread and see which is the answer of my question.
STOCK ROM!
Honestly, on my N73G, I am liking stock. I will probably do Parandroid eventually, but the amount of trouble, vs. benefit is too high. (Am not able to make my N7 connect via adb to unlock, etc...but that's not what this thread is for )
Paranoid Android for me.
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For Nexus 7 3G, I must say that Supernexus 2 is quite good. even though the customization options are lacking compared to CM10.1 for example, it's smooth and so much stable!
I tried temasek unofficial CM10.1 for quite some time before using supernexus rom; I think I have been flashing 1x of his roms, latest one on top previous ones. I only update temasek rom every 3 or so version or when there is an interesting changes. Can't afford to download everyday; slow and expensive Internet here. If only it offers delta update through cyandelta or rom manager. It's got all CM10.1 features plus many cherry picks which are epic IMO, like native USB OTG mounting, wifi / bluetooth/USB tethering. Just to name a few.
I am now waiting for supernexus 2 build 3 which should be released today, one day after its been released for S2 and S3. It's based on 4.2.2. Gonna try that for a few days. If there's any major problem, I might try temasek rom again.
I have a question: is it safe to flash just the bootloader in fastboot even though I'm using a custom rom based on 4.2.1? I don't want to return to stock because I heard it will wipe internal sd again. My N7 can't connect to my desktop computer through MTP; tried in windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04
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The amount of roms out here is simply confusing.. And please don't accuse me of not doing my homework, I've spent hours reading through rom features and trying them out. None of them have the perfect feeling to me. Also, there is no performance comparision as there is with kernels.
What I'm looking for is as clean rom as possible, more impprtantly though, one that is fast(est) for gaming. Yes, I will use a kernel and oc my device, but roms i've tested still have different performance levels with same kernel settings. Rom should also have tablet ui and some fundametal configuration options such as power menu, quick settings customization etc.. Also, it should be stable enough for everyday use. Battery life is not as important, as it can be saved with app usage and undervolting.
I'm sure others have the same things in mindk, so I'll ask for everyone.
Thank you very much in advance.
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STOCK ROM!
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zedwards said:
Honestly, on my N73G, I am liking stock. I will probably do Parandroid eventually, but the amount of trouble, vs. benefit is too high. (Am not able to make my N7 connect via adb to unlock, etc...but that's not what this thread is for )
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I have to agree - stock and unrooted my N7 rocks. Granted, I've only had it a week tomorrow and I'm coming from Hashcode's Kindle Fire rom'ed device - which with most mods is trying to emulate the Nexus 7 - and does a pretty good job too. But my new device got the latest 4.2.2 jelly bean pushed to it a couple of days ago - no fuss/muss - and smooth and awesome it is still.
I'd decided when I activated my new N7 that I'd hold off root and modding it for a week or two to break it in, make sure that I had no warranty claims to make. With one week down all that I've missed about not having root so far is Titanium Backup.
Maybe I'm in the wrong place. Where is the, "Benefits of rooting your Nexus 7?" thread?
Maybe I'm a weirdo here but while stock ROMs are great and fast and whatnot, I'm looking for the most unique ROM! Or maybe I just need a different launcher to spice things up?
But, agreed, there are way too many ROMs that offer minimal differences...
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I think it's smoothroom with franco kernel
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Paranoid Android is by far the best Custom ROM I've tried. Other than ViperX for the HOX etc I think the Paranoid team do such amazing work.
Updated all the time, and never had an issue with PA.
With Faux kernel it "USED" to be amazing all round, but I've noticed recently the battery has been less and less with each update (perhaps Faux isn't keeping up)?
Franco kernel is also brilliant with PA. But yeah, for the Nexus, PA is the way to go !
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The last time I tried PA, my N7 just freezes in the lock screen, quite often. Only thing I can do is reboot. At other time, when lock screen is working, there are lots of lags pretty much everywhere. I still don't understand why people still praised it until now even though in my testing it feels as if I'm holding a bomb ready to explode at any time.
Even people in the nexus community can't escape the "hype" and placebo effect of roms or tweaks or even kernels.
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I have to agree - stock and unrooted my N7 rocks. Granted, I've only had it a week tomorrow and I'm coming from Hashcode's Kindle Fire rom'ed device - which with most mods is trying to emulate the Nexus 7 - and does a pretty good job too. But my new device got the latest 4.2.2 jelly bean pushed to it a couple of days ago - no fuss/muss - and smooth and awesome it is still.
I'd decided when I activated my new N7 that I'd hold off root and modding it for a week or two to break it in, make sure that I had no warranty claims to make. With one week down all that I've missed about not having root so far is Titanium Backup.
Maybe I'm in the wrong place. Where is the, "Benefits of rooting your Nexus 7?" thread?
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I love stock and stock kernel on my N7 because it gives me the best battery life plus performance. I can run many applications flawlessly. No hiccups or lags. To be fair, i have only tried MiNCO ROM, paranoidandroid, and CM 10.1. I liked the customizations and the tweaks that were implemented to improve it but it just wasn't for me.
I flashed back to stock a few days and I'm going to camp here for a while.
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For me: #1 Paranoid Android, #2 Stock.
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Paranoid android, but cant wait to get back to stock 4.2.2...
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I'm a pretty big fan of dirty root box IMHO. I think it looks really slick and gives pretty good performance and tons of customization. Paired with Franco kernel it also gets great battery life.
PRIME D02 is the fastest ROM I've tried, by far.
It is a clean ROM concentrated on improving performance, it doesn't add a lot of features which also can be added afterwards to your taste (for instance if you want a PIE menu you can add LMT Launcher). But you can select extended desktop (full screen), you can customize the navbar buttons and settings, nav ring, status bar, and quick settings (swipe down from the top right of the status bar).
If you use this rom with its standard kernel, make sure to install Trickster MOD and adjust the setting 'CPUQuit Power Management' to 'RUNNABLE' (swipe to the last tab, and don't forget to press 'V' on top of the screen to activate, and enable 'set on boot'). This is needed to get good battery performance, otherwise 3 cores will run at high speed. You will still get the super fluid performance.
fac51void said:
PRIME D02 is the fastest ROM I've tried, by far.
It is a clean ROM concentrated on improving performance, it doesn't add a lot of features which also can be added afterwards to your taste (for instance if you want a PIE menu you can add LMT Launcher). But you can select extended desktop (full screen), you can customize the navbar buttons and settings, nav ring, status bar, and quick settings (swipe down from the top right of the status bar).
If you use this rom with its standard kernel, make sure to install Trickster MOD and adjust the setting 'CPUQuit Power Management' to 'RUNNABLE' (swipe to the last tab, and don't forget to press 'V' on top of the screen to activate). This is needed to get good battery performance, otherwise 3 cores will run at high speed. You will still get the super fluid performance.
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Isn't anyone using AOKP? I switched from SmoothROM and never looked back. SmoothROM was nice, much better than stock, but the customization and stability with AOKP simply incredible. I'm using a 4.2.2 nightly right now, couldn't wait for the Bluetooth fix and haven't had a problem yet.
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Try it out, you don't hate unicorns do you? :cyclops:
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CodefireX,Xylon,Vanilla Root box,and now Dirty Rootbox have been impressive this year. Originally loved Baked but haven't even looked for an update since v.7.
Don't much care for PA.
Got tired of hearing about tablet ui and the (ugh) 'Phablet' ui and now its Pie this and Pie that. There is a launcher for that so keep pie out of the ROMs please...
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Hi!
I got my Nexus 4 three days ago.
My Usage Specs -
I use my N4 mainly for internet ( WiFi, sometimes 2G ) and a little bit of gaming. I make occasional calls and text rarely.
I don't use WhatsApp or Facebook.
I'm using STOCK ROM+Kernel.
I'm getting around 10-12 hours of battery life, with 4-5 hours of screen-on time.
Now, I want to be able to over/under clock & volt my CPU+GPU. This is to increase battery life and increase performance, as required.
It looks like too much choice is very confusing. So, I'd like some experienced suggestions and recommendations.
So, which _ should I use? ( And, I've already narrowed down the choices a bit )
Kernel - Faux, Motley, Franco
ROM - AOSP(Stock), CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android, Xylon
Also, should I use Battery, CPU, RAM managers? If so, which ones?
What are some cool, useful N4 specific apps?
Any other tweaks and tips? - You can link to other xda threads, if available.
I will be unlocking and rooting tomorrow, once I decide which kernel+ROM to use.
Thanks!
Ram and battery managers are not necessary. You have 2GB of ram. Battery saver apps do not work. besides you said you're getting 4-5 hours of screen time. That's great!
Download greenify. It's a great app.
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OP, "best ROM/kernel" questions are not allowed here. You will have to experiment and see.
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Ram and battery managers are not necessary. You have 2GB of ram. Battery saver apps do not work. besides you said you're getting 4-5 hours of screen time. That's great!
Download greenify. It's a great app.
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That's cleared up some of my doubt. Thanks!
I'll try out greenify, too.
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Hi,
I understand that you are trying to prevent flame-wars and the like, however, I'm not looking for 'the best kernel/ROM'.
I want to know which combinations and configs other people have used, and I'd like some experienced suggestions.
I'm finding it confusing to differentiate between the variety of kernels and roms available, so I wanted some recommendations - preferably, with reasons.
Thanks!
arvindch said:
Hi,
understand that you are trying to prevent flame-wars and the like, however, I'm not looking for 'the best kernel/ROM'.
I want to know which combinations and configs other people have used, and I'd like some experienced suggestions.
I'm finding it confusing to differentiate between the variety of kernels and roms available, so I wanted some recommendations - preferably, with reasons.
Thanks!
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I use Paranoid Android with its stock kernel. For me, no other rom can compare to Pa on the nexus 4! Not even cyanogen mod is as fluid, stable, and efficient. With my current setup I get around 16 hours battery life (5:30 am-11ish pm), with ~5 hours screen on time. I don't use any task killers or memory managers. I just make sure to force close all my apps when I'm done with them, and I reboot the phone every 24 hours to keep it at its maximum performance. Although my usage is slightly different. I use my phone mainly to browse the Web, text and occasionally snap some pictures and check instagram. Hopefully this helps you out a bit
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brandonc0526 said:
I use Paranoid Android with its stock kernel. For me, no other rom can compare to Pa on the nexus 4! Not even cyanogen mod is as fluid, stable, and efficient. With my current setup I get around 16 hours battery life (5:30 am-11ish pm), with ~5 hours screen on time. I don't use any task killers or memory managers. I just make sure to force close all my apps when I'm done with them, and I reboot the phone every 24 hours to keep it at its maximum performance. Although my usage is slightly different. I use my phone mainly to browse the Web, text and occasionally snap some pictures and check instagram. Hopefully this helps you out a bit
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Thanks! This is exactly the sort of information I was hoping for.
I think I'll try out PA today.
Also, Have you tried other kernels?
arvindch said:
Thanks! This is exactly the sort of information I was hoping for.
I think I'll try out PA today.
Also, Have you tried other kernels?
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Trinity and Franco kernel works great with PA. And so does semaphore. I use Franco kernel mainly because I get more screen time than any other kernel I've used. Franco kernel delivers a balance between smoothness and great battery life.
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scream4cheese said:
Trinity and Franco kernel works great with PA. And so does semaphore. I use Franco kernel mainly because I get more screen time than any other kernel I've used. Franco kernel delivers a balance between smoothness and great battery life.
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Okay, and you use PA too?
Also, how does the kernel affect smoothness? Shouldn't the performance be the same as long as you don't change clock speeds? Or is it due to the new governors that the kernel uses?
Also, what about motley kernel? The thread is very spartan, and I can't glean much info about it.
Has anyone tried Xylon? - it looks efficient.
arvindch said:
Okay, and you use PA too?
Also, how does the kernel affect smoothness? Shouldn't the performance be the same as long as you don't change clock speeds? Or is it due to the new governors that the kernel uses?
Also, what about motley kernel? The thread is very spartan, and I can't glean much info about it.
Has anyone tried Xylon? - it looks efficient.
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I've tried the Franco kernel before but I find the stock PA one to be perfect as far as colors go. I've never had an issue with smoothness using it and I don't even worry about clock speed or governors. As far as xylon goes, I found it to be very washed out using the stock kernel that comes with the rom, again in terms of display. When I ran xylon for a few days, I ran into a few hiccups in performance that weren't acknowledged, even when running with different kernels. I've also tried AOKP, Cyanogen, and axiom, but I always return back to paranoid
brandonc0526 said:
I've tried the Franco kernel before but I find the stock PA one to be perfect as far as colors go. I've never had an issue with smoothness using it and I don't even worry about clock speed or governors. As far as xylon goes, I found it to be very washed out using the stock kernel that comes with the rom, again in terms of display. When I ran xylon for a few days, I ran into a few hiccups in performance that weren't acknowledged, even when running with different kernels. I've also tried AOKP, Cyanogen, and axiom, but I always return back to paranoid
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Okay, thanks. I'll experiment a bit, and see how it goes.
I've used PA before, on a HTC One V. It looks great, IMO too,
Try the matrix kernal
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HI!
So I have experimented and tested most of the major kernels and ROMs.
AND..... My selection/combo for now is:
kernel - Franco Milestone 2
ROM - Carbon 1.7
I tried Paranoid Android, but I didn't really like their interface adjustments.
And, just CyanogenMod is boring, IMO. Xylon, too.
Carbon has great customisation, and the specific adjustments that I like.
Thanks for the help!
Others - feel free to continue post your suggestions and recommendations for kernel+ROM combos.
arvindch said:
HI!
So I have experimented and tested most of the major kernels and ROMs.
AND..... My selection/combo for now is:
kernel - Franco Milestone 2
ROM - Carbon 1.7
I tried Paranoid Android, but I didn't really like their interface adjustments.
And, just CyanogenMod is boring, IMO. Xylon, too.
Carbon has great customisation, and the specific adjustments that I like.
Thanks for the help!
Others - feel free to continue post your suggestions and recommendations for kernel+ROM combos.
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Why not Franco R140? It's stable and a lot has changed since M2
sigma392 said:
Why not Franco R140? It's stable and a lot has changed since M2
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Oh, I wasn't really sure whether it was stable, so I went with the milestone release.
Also, What are prime drivers?
Thanks!
arvindch said:
Oh, I wasn't really sure whether it was stable, so I went with the milestone release.
Also, What are prime drivers?
Thanks!
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Drivers with code from Code Aurora. They *may* fix stuff like slow WiFi speeds and delayed notifications. I personally use them but if you don't experience any problem with WiFi then I suggest flashing the normal ones. :fingers-crossed:
Try Matr1x kernel, gave me the best results when I tried through different ones.
sigma392 said:
Drivers with code from Code Aurora. They *may* fix stuff like slow WiFi speeds and delayed notifications. I personally use them but if you don't experience any problem with WiFi then I suggest flashing the normal ones. :fingers-crossed:
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I think I'll use the normal ones.
My internet speed is 4 Mbps and I don't use my WiFi to transfer files at all.
At the moment I'm getting the speeds I can technically get. So those won't help me, I guess.
Also, I've been running R140 without any problems for the last day.
Thanks!
I Am Marino said:
Try Matr1x kernel, gave me the best results when I tried through different ones.
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Really? Maybe I will.
How is battery life and performance compared to franco kernel?
arvindch said:
Really? Maybe I will.
How is battery life and performance compared to franco kernel?
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They're pretty much the same really. But Matr1x does wonders in benchmarks. I would love to use it however I need those Prima Drivers badly :S
Hi there,
I was unsure if I should ask this in the Oppo Forum or here, if I am in the wrong place just tell me!
As for my question: I just wanted to know what kernel other user owning the Find 5 and running Omni Rom are using.
I was kind of unable to find a fit when i searched in the Find 5 Forum in "Android Original Development" (this was the right forum right?). So I am happy about any reply. If you could drop a few words on why you use this very kernel, even more!
If I was just plain dumb/blind asking this question cause it was answerd a thousand times before - please give me directions, I really didn't find what I was looking for.
chuSmu
Every oppo find 5 kernel for 4.3/4 is a custom one since coloros is still at android 4.2
Which is what oppo shares on their github.
For 4.3/4 there are AFAIK only two kernels
-based on the omnirom one
-from cfxe http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/a...-y-codefirexperiment-nightlies-weeklies.5630/
Dont know about CM
maxwen said:
Every oppo find 5 kernel for 4.3/4 is a custom one since coloros is still at android 4.2
Which is what oppo shares on their github.
For 4.3/4 there are AFAIK only two kernels
-based on the omnirom one
-from cfxe http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/a...-y-codefirexperiment-nightlies-weeklies.5630/
Dont know about CM
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Ok, thanks a bunch - that explains it. I concluded from your post that 4.3 kernels work on 4.4 too? Is that correct?
But i thought that there were only two major differences between kernels for the same device and the same
android version - sense and aosp. Your words were "the only ones based on omni rom..." does that mean there are more
differences i have to look out for? Sorry.. i really still am a noob when it comes to kernels and stuff.
Keep in mind that modified system configurations (such as changing the kernel) are NOT supported by Omni.
If you are running a kernel other than the included one, your configuration becomes invalid for any bug reports.
Entropy512 said:
Keep in mind that modified system configurations (such as changing the kernel) are NOT supported by Omni.
If you are running a kernel other than the included one, your configuration becomes invalid for any bug reports.
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Thanks for the info - I did not know this..it might actually keep me from installing another kernel. It was just that i wanted to toy a little around wih it (after reading some more ^^) simply cause I have never done it before and wanted to experience firsthand how it can affect performance and battery life.
chuSmu said:
Thanks for the info - I did not know this..it might actually keep me from installing another kernel. It was just that i wanted to toy a little around wih it (after reading some more ^^) simply cause I have never done it before and wanted to experience firsthand how it can affect performance and battery life.
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Many of the tweaks that people install custom kernels for can be simply achieved by altering the tuning settings of their existing kernel.
For example, those who really like battery life may wish to choose the conservative governor and set aggressive up/down thresholds. (up threshold 90 and down of 60 is what I use)
Entropy512 said:
Many of the tweaks that people install custom kernels for can be simply achieved by altering the tuning settings of their existing kernel.
For example, those who really like battery life may wish to choose the conservative governor and set aggressive up/down thresholds. (up threshold 90 and down of 60 is what I use)
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Yeah that's what I was looking for. Though i failed to realize that these options are provided ^^. It's kinda embarassing cause i only noticed
them when i wanted to switch apps with switchtr and pulled out the sliding bar by accident.
So yeah i had what i wanted all along .. Well anyways ... thanks for providing the settings you use. I'm gonna try them!
chuSmu