Hi there,
I was unsure if I should ask this in the Oppo Forum or here, if I am in the wrong place just tell me!
As for my question: I just wanted to know what kernel other user owning the Find 5 and running Omni Rom are using.
I was kind of unable to find a fit when i searched in the Find 5 Forum in "Android Original Development" (this was the right forum right?). So I am happy about any reply. If you could drop a few words on why you use this very kernel, even more!
If I was just plain dumb/blind asking this question cause it was answerd a thousand times before - please give me directions, I really didn't find what I was looking for.
chuSmu
Every oppo find 5 kernel for 4.3/4 is a custom one since coloros is still at android 4.2
Which is what oppo shares on their github.
For 4.3/4 there are AFAIK only two kernels
-based on the omnirom one
-from cfxe http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/a...-y-codefirexperiment-nightlies-weeklies.5630/
Dont know about CM
maxwen said:
Every oppo find 5 kernel for 4.3/4 is a custom one since coloros is still at android 4.2
Which is what oppo shares on their github.
For 4.3/4 there are AFAIK only two kernels
-based on the omnirom one
-from cfxe http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/a...-y-codefirexperiment-nightlies-weeklies.5630/
Dont know about CM
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Ok, thanks a bunch - that explains it. I concluded from your post that 4.3 kernels work on 4.4 too? Is that correct?
But i thought that there were only two major differences between kernels for the same device and the same
android version - sense and aosp. Your words were "the only ones based on omni rom..." does that mean there are more
differences i have to look out for? Sorry.. i really still am a noob when it comes to kernels and stuff.
Keep in mind that modified system configurations (such as changing the kernel) are NOT supported by Omni.
If you are running a kernel other than the included one, your configuration becomes invalid for any bug reports.
Entropy512 said:
Keep in mind that modified system configurations (such as changing the kernel) are NOT supported by Omni.
If you are running a kernel other than the included one, your configuration becomes invalid for any bug reports.
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Thanks for the info - I did not know this..it might actually keep me from installing another kernel. It was just that i wanted to toy a little around wih it (after reading some more ^^) simply cause I have never done it before and wanted to experience firsthand how it can affect performance and battery life.
chuSmu said:
Thanks for the info - I did not know this..it might actually keep me from installing another kernel. It was just that i wanted to toy a little around wih it (after reading some more ^^) simply cause I have never done it before and wanted to experience firsthand how it can affect performance and battery life.
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Many of the tweaks that people install custom kernels for can be simply achieved by altering the tuning settings of their existing kernel.
For example, those who really like battery life may wish to choose the conservative governor and set aggressive up/down thresholds. (up threshold 90 and down of 60 is what I use)
Entropy512 said:
Many of the tweaks that people install custom kernels for can be simply achieved by altering the tuning settings of their existing kernel.
For example, those who really like battery life may wish to choose the conservative governor and set aggressive up/down thresholds. (up threshold 90 and down of 60 is what I use)
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Yeah that's what I was looking for. Though i failed to realize that these options are provided ^^. It's kinda embarassing cause i only noticed
them when i wanted to switch apps with switchtr and pulled out the sliding bar by accident.
So yeah i had what i wanted all along .. Well anyways ... thanks for providing the settings you use. I'm gonna try them!
chuSmu
Related
In terms of stability, built-in features, battery life, performance and anything else important that I might have forgotten, which of the below three ROMs is top dog? Just so you know, I plan on flashing the non-overclocked GPU version of _motley's Linaro kernel regardless of which ROM I choose.
Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6
krion64 said:
In terms of stability, built-in features, battery life, performance and anything else important that I might have forgotten, which of the below three ROMs is top dog? Just so you know, I plan on flashing the non-overclocked GPU version of _motley's Linaro kernel regardless of which ROM I choose.
Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6
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I'm running paranoid myself but the best advice I've read when people ask this question is try them all. What's best means to me might not be what it means to you. I've tried all three myself and they were all stable, I like paranoid because of the per app density feature it has. It was just updated again today btw. Motleys kernel is awesome I like the one without gpuoc. Good luck, happy flashing
Thanks for the advice. Also, I have another question for anybody who can answer. These three ROMs seem to be mostly similar in terms of features, so it's actually kind of hard telling the differences. So, what I'm trying to ask is, what sets each ROM apart?
krion64 said:
Paranoid Android
Glazed
JR6
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Does anyone know the answer to this? I used JR5, EOS now PA. They are all very similar, as you would expect. PA has more config options for setting up tablet UI which is key for me and the reason I use it currently (with Nova Launcher).
I liked JRX Roms as they have lots of apps inbuilt that the others dont, ie working Flash, GAPPS etc.
I'm also using Trinity kernel which is working great, again, I have not noticed much difference between them all.
Try them and take your pick
I say EOS with Mortley kernel
Hello. I'm interested in modifying my nexus 7 setup and installing a new kernel and potentially a new rom because web browsing on stock is a bit sluggish for a rather vanilla android install. So is multitasking while running an idle chroot. From my initial research, custom kernels and different clock settings can accomplish what I'm seeking.
Now here's the thing. I'm also interested in keeping the fantastic battery life that the stock rom and kernel has given me. I'm thinking that I want a rather lean ROM with over clock settings that are a bit more conservative, like It will try to stay at lower clocks when it can, but if a process is constantly pushing the tablet, give it a higher clock until load goes down. Similar to the on demand CPU governor in Linux. Is there a setup you guys would recommend that would give me what I'm looking for?
My boot loader is unlocked and my ROM rooted.
Helios747 said:
Hello. I'm interested in modifying my nexus 7 setup and installing a new kernel and potentially a new rom because web browsing on stock is a bit sluggish for a rather vanilla android install. So is multitasking while running an idle chroot. From my initial research, custom kernels and different clock settings can accomplish what I'm seeking.
Now here's the thing. I'm also interested in keeping the fantastic battery life that the stock rom and kernel has given me. I'm thinking that I want a rather lean ROM with over clock settings that are a bit more conservative, like It will try to stay at lower clocks when it can, but if a process is constantly pushing the tablet, give it a higher clock until load goes down. Similar to the on demand CPU governor in Linux. Is there a setup you guys would recommend that would give me what I'm looking for?
My boot loader is unlocked and my ROM rooted.
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Hi, Helios747...
And welcome to XDA...
It is true... there is a a whole slew of kernels and ROMs to choose from... this is both 'a damn nusicance' and it is also 'a delightful wonder'.
But it also means, and there is no real easy way of saying this... you're going to have to experiment for yourself.
Nobody can really say what is best for you... except you.
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Look at your needs - how you will use your tablet; High Octane Video Games or Low Level Browsing (maybe with a bit of YouTube) - Sleek and Slim - or Fat with Features - or maybe some compromise betwixt the two..
... you obviously know a fair bit about Linux (more than me probably, given your chroot reference), so you're probably better placed than me to make certain choices.
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XDA moderators have an objection about threads/posts concerning 'best ROMs/kernels'... such debates lead to flame wars, so a specific thread has been created here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2151963
Post here... and look here also... it's a great resource.
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The best of luck to you... and hope you find something that works for you.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Closed. We don't allow comparison threads. Try them and see
I was wondering if anyone has done any actual testing between the different popular kernels available for the N4, or even a spread speed with a feature comparison.
With so man different options it hard to tell how they stack up, which have what fixes or what additions applied. I feel like someone should make a sticky that compares the kernels side by side so that newbies/people who are just not technical or great on following what has recently updated, can tell what each option offers.
I know that on the Nexus 7 forum there is a thread where a person applies the same device, ROM and settings to multiple kernels and test battery life in a few separate situations. I'd love to see someone do that for the Nexus 4 as well. I know there are many variables in play, but it can give people an idea of what each kernel provides.
That way people can more easily narrow down what kernels fit their needs/feature desires.
the problem is that different devices react differently to each kernel. one devices great, can be another devices horrible. i do understand your idea though, im not saying its bad, because it is a good idea. its just the results would be accurate(maybe, depends on how tested, for the tester. but could be very inaccurate for another device.
I know that, but at least a tracking spread sheet would be handy for comparisons, and the testing would let people know somewhat what what to expect.
knitler said:
I know that, but at least a tracking spread sheet would be handy for comparisons, and the testing would let people know somewhat what what to expect.
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What do you want the most out of a kernel? Battery life, speed, or oc?
I know im repeating another fellow member but not all chips are created equal. It all depends what kinda of use. You could try a kernel and run your tests on it. Then save pictures of the graphs if you can. Then flash a different kernel and make comparisons on them. A good place to start is Faux123 or Franco kernel. Both kernels are developed very well.
I don't think you are following me.
If you want to know what Kernels allow:
Color calibration
Ennhanced audio
built-in wifi fix
underclock to 192mhz
Would you rather read 12-15 threads or just look at a spreadsheet in a sticky on top of the forum, and know what 2-3 to choose from instead of reading all the descriptions and notes?
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I don't think you are following me.
If you want to know what Kernels allow:
Color calibration
Ennhanced audio
built-in wifi fix
underclock to 192mhz
Would you rather read 12-15 threads or just look at a spreadsheet in a sticky on top of the forum, and know what 2-3 to choose from instead of reading all the descriptions and notes?
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Just try some kernel`s out and keep the one you like most, is this again one of those disguised `best of` threads? Each user has a different setup (apps, widgets, syncing, roms, mods) so this would not be a test under similar conditions.
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I don't think you are following me.
If you want to know what Kernels allow:
Color calibration
Ennhanced audio
built-in wifi fix
underclock to 192mhz
Would you rather read 12-15 threads or just look at a spreadsheet in a sticky on top of the forum, and know what 2-3 to choose from instead of reading all the descriptions and notes?
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If it bugs you so much why don't you make the spreadsheet? It's not like you'd have to learn code or something. Just saying..
knitler said:
Would you rather read 12-15 threads or just look at a spreadsheet in a sticky on top of the forum, and know what 2-3 to choose from instead of reading all the descriptions and notes?
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When I chose a kernel, I used to manually look through each kernel thread and then just try the kernel myself. Didn't need any fancy spreadsheet or comparison charts.
Plus I have a feeling it would... deter newer kernel developers and misguide newer users. A user sees "X" kernel not having a feature, when 5 other kernels have every feature, and they'll skip right over that kernel, regardless of what benefits it may offer.
espionage724 said:
When I chose a kernel, I used to manually look through each kernel thread and then just try the kernel myself. Didn't need any fancy spreadsheet or comparison charts.
Plus I have a feeling it would... deter newer kernel developers and misguide newer users. A user sees "X" kernel not having a feature, when 5 other kernels have every feature, and they'll skip right over that kernel, regardless of what benefits it may offer.
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If the kernel has benefits then they would just be listed. You're example doesn't make much sense to me, if a person wants a feature, they yes, they will use a kernel that has that feature. If a person wants to tune the color on their screen why would they NOT get a kernel with that control feature?
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If the kernel has benefits then they would just be listed. You're example doesn't make much sense to me, if a person wants a feature, they yes, they will use a kernel that has that feature. If a person wants to tune the color on their screen why would they NOT get a kernel with that control feature?
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a few good kernels dont list "features". and some kernels make up names for features to make them sound more then they are, and make it a point to list "features" that really arent. really, its best to try a kernel, as these "feature" lists can be very misleading.
Hello,
I am a noob in alternative Kernels
I've got a faux kernel installed from http://faux.romhost.me/mako/kk44/
I've flash it over CM 11. Rebooted (with strange "animation"). Got all screwed up colors (blue<->yelow etc) swapped.
As much as I understand, I should have installed Fauxclock app as a way to pay-off the kernel. I did install, tried to play with gamma from app.
So settings do affect the gamma a bit, but colors remain screwed up regardless. I refreshed, rebooted. No effect. Had to refund it within 15 minutes so I am not stuck with disfunctional phone.
As well as that, I've got some blinking/refresh going on. If I run Juice defender, UI is completely off and looks interlaced
My ultimate goal was to use Faux sound control to use it with CSIpSimple over 3G. Is there a way to fix colors while not using everything else
Yes, I read FAQ (http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...ernel-ver-031-mako-kk-4-4-uv-otg-cpu-t2008222) Yes, I wiped cache/dalvik cache. Yes, I rebooted. Yes, I reinstalled Gaps. So what is wrong, where is the mistake?
Thank you
Found solution
After long-long research, found a key info.
1. Google - "CAF vs AOSP"
2. Download zip here: http://xtrymind.com/2014/01/franco-faux-kernel-for-cyanogenmod-11/
I understand, that for some inverted colors, kernel subtypes etc, is something their mom sang as lullaby.
But for me it was totally new info. So point is, Franko, Faux etc - please, put this info to your F.A.Q. There are people who has very different interest and have absolutely no idea about this "very specific details".
Thanks
Vetal_ca said:
After long-long research, found a key info.
1. Google - "CAF vs AOSP"
2. Download zip here: http://xtrymind.com/2014/01/franco-faux-kernel-for-cyanogenmod-11/
I understand, that for some inverted colors, kernel subtypes etc, is something their mom sang as lullaby.
But for me it was totally new info. So point is, Franko, Faux etc - please, put this info to your F.A.Q. There are people who has very different interest and have absolutely no idea about this "very specific details".
Thanks
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dude cyanogen already says that, your fault not reading.
also its almost in every thread about rom/kernel problems
there is a caf version of faux on android development....
opssemnik said:
dude cyanogen already says that, your fault not reading.
also its almost in every thread about rom/kernel problems
there is a caf version of faux on android development....
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Not really,
I started here Voip-Asterisk-3G:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...ver-google-t2126964/post37421409#post37421409
Than, Google => Faux Kernel for Nexus 4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...ernel-ver-031-mako-kk-4-4-uv-otg-cpu-t2008222
Well, nothing about "Users of Cyanogenmod, please make sure..."
Few hours, instability, wrong colors.... - how many would say, this kernel is total crap - forget it? Instead of finding the solution?
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Not really,
I started here Voip-Asterisk-3G:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...ver-google-t2126964/post37421409#post37421409
Than, Google => Faux Kernel for Nexus 4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...ernel-ver-031-mako-kk-4-4-uv-otg-cpu-t2008222
Well, nothing about "Users of Cyanogenmod, please make sure..."
Few hours, instability, wrong colors.... - how many would say, this kernel is total crap - forget it? Instead of finding the solution?
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cm stated while back about caf thing(its common on all krait qualcomm processors)
but faux i can call i was wrong. if you look in jb he states about being aosp based roms only....
but he didnt put for 4.4 so my bad on that one
Nevermind
King ov Hell said:
MY REQUEST CAN BE SO SILLY FOR YOU. BEFORE YOU JUDGE, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M RESPECTING ALL DEVS ON HERE. MAYBE A DEV WILL DO THIS. I'M HOPING
I'm new with this device. Testing some kernels, they have excellent control about everything. Personaly I prefer lean kernels. That's why I flash Lean Kernel. Other kernels are 10-11 MB, lean kernel is 7 MB. That's good but everytime I flash a custom kernel they have too much stuff. It's end up with heat, random reboots and freezes. Even if I don't touch anything about undervoltage. For example I got a heat problem at offline charging. Stability is breaking when you add custom things.
The concept is doing a kernel which is not mixed with custom controls. Lean kernel's developer said "I'm trying to trim fat as much as I can."
For example;
- No debugging
- Linux base 3.4....
- Latest source code
- Latest toolchains
- Governors
- Insecured
- Bugfixes for stock memory leaks/DVFS problems/Samsung's silly things...
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I can elongate the list. You should only understand the concept. If you like the concept I'm requesting you to do this. Like I said before don't blame me. I just wanna offer my idea. I opened the thread because I see a lot of people who complain about random instability in their device. I'm not a developer I wish I was. Waiting for your comments. Thank you.
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TW based or AOSP based? DVFS is also software based because it detects which apps open up that are known as benchmarking apps and ramps up the processor accordingly.
For AOSP, leans, temasek and yank.
For TW I prefer wootever, compulsion and lean.