Trouble Picking a Phone - Hardware Hacking General

First I must preface this with I havent been around XDA since I swapped from my HTC Incredible to the 4S. I use Verizon Wireless and currently have an iPhone 4S. Its on a 2 year plan currently and not eligible for an upgrade.
My wife broke her iPhone 4. The plan is to get her my 4S and get something new.
Currently Im stuck between the HTC One and the Galaxy S4 on Verizon. Historical what manufacturer has the best development? I can almost guarantee either phone will be rooted, bloat ware will disappear, and probably a custom ROM. Also pros and cons of each phone? Hardware wise they are pretty similar. I havent had any luck finding unbiased reviews. People seem to love or hate and there is no middle of the road.

HTC One is a solid choice, don't get me wrong the S4 is excellent device. I have one but after using the HTC One since Verizon employees were able to get their hands on one and I think I found a solid phone to replace this little beauty ;Motorola Droid RAZR M. The M is by far the best phone I have ever used for the price, especially on CM
I hope that helps, as I am terrible at picking out a phone.
Cheers
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Note 3, also wrong forum.

chrisrotolo said:
Note 3, also wrong forum.
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Not waiting for the Note 3. My wife smashed her phone and its easily capable of putting glass shards in her hands.
In any event I went with the S4 32Gb.

nathanalanlister said:
HTC One is a solid choice, don't get me wrong the S4 is excellent device. I have one but after using the HTC One since Verizon employees were able to get their hands on one and I think I found a solid phone to replace this little beauty ;Motorola Droid RAZR M. The M is by far the best phone I have ever used for the price, especially on CM
I hope that helps, as I am terrible at picking out a phone.
Cheers
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Of course go for HTC one. Android phones are all the same. For me, the HTC one look much better than S4

Desmond.tkyip said:
Of course go for HTC one. Android phones are all the same. For me, the HTC one look much better than S4
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Looks are nice, but the lack of a removable battery and no SD card slot ruins it.

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G2, MT4G, or Nexus S?

Those are the phones I'm thinking about upgrading to from my N1. Which should I go for? I want the phone with the most support here on XDA. Leaning more towards the G2 because of the look, HSPDA+ and seems like it has the most support here out of the three. One drawback about the Nexus S for me is no HSPDA+. MT4G seems like the most powerful. Which should I go for?
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Those are the phones I'm thinking about upgrading to from my N1. Which should I go for? I want the phone with the most support here on XDA. Leaning more towards the G2 because of the look, HSPDA+ and seems like it has the most support here out of the three. One drawback about the Nexus S for me is no HSPDA+. MT4G seems like the most powerful. Which should I go for?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but my n1 is running hsdpa right now
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but my n1 is running hsdpa right now
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Mine is too. OP is confusing it with HSPA+
G2 is best one of those
This is why I don't upgrade my Nexus One.
All phones are not that great over the Nexus One yet all have their own individial pros/cons.
The MyTouchHD looks hidious but has the hardware, HSPA+, and front facing camera
G2 looks slick, HSPA+, and no front camera
Nexus S will have the same support as the Nexus One but lacks HSPA+, Super Amoled, etc.
I don't like keyboard phones at all. So I'd pick the Nexus One over the G2. I thought about trading in my N1 for a MyTouchHD, but it looks like crap.
If I lost my Nexus One today and my insurance would cover the cost of any one of those phones, I would pick the Nexus S.
If you want a nexus s but want to save money get a vibrant. My wife has one and I've got it running cyanogen 6.1, same as the NS minus NFC & FFC but the bonus of a sdcard slot.
My Nexus One has been doing great all year and I'm not impressed enough with the Nexus S to make the switch. Besides with the OneMoreFace mirror coming out and Gingerbread soon on all our N1's why upgrade at all.
If you really want a N1 with a physical keyboard get a G2. Especially if you're in a 4G market. Otherwise you can save your money and keep the awesome phone in your hand.
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Nexus 1 is still the king for me, competition isn't worth a crack at this time. Waiting for dual core that blows !
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Bronyr said:
Nexus 1 is still the king for me, competition isn't worth a crack at this time. Waiting for dual core that blows !
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If I had the nexus one, id make the same move too. The nexus one has the "old" factor and I feel many people upgrade from their n1 only cause its time for a new toy but that phone was so ahead of its time. Its still on par and even better than most phones out there.
I was comparing these phones and took the plunge on the mytouch 4g and honestly, best phone I've ever had. Looks better than the vibrant, very sleek. Got the black version. I dont know why some people think it's ugly but to each their own. I guess the squigly "my touch" writing isnt all that great.
The G2 looks more professional and business man like. I was really close to getting that but after playing with both for hours, the mytouch 4g's display blew the G2 out of the water. Something, not sure what it is, made the G2's display very dull and lifeless. Almost like a very crisp G1. Also, cant live with the hinge problem, that drove me crazy.
Id keep the n1 and wait a month or two (maybe) for a HUGE leap, not the clump of smartphones that are coming out in waves all at the same time period. If i had a choice, Id have gotten the n1 a while ago, kept it and done that.
Too bad i had the g1, i needed to get rid of that outdated phone.
The Nexus S would be what I would go with if I had to, but there's still none I'd take over the N1.
Remember back when the N1 was first released, and Google was planning on expanding the online store to various Google supported phones for different carriers and from different vendors? Maybe if the NS is a big hit they will go back to that plan, but with the brick and mortar vendors instead of the online store. I know it's not likely, but it sure would be sweet
I'd say go for the g2 since it's running stock android but not vanilla but it doesn't matter anyways cuz you'll be flashing a custom rom as soon as you want to. The g2 was one impossible to root but not anymore though.even when the g2 is clocked at 800 mhz but hell no the processor is just as good as all the 1 ghz phones. And about the hinge problem htc seems to have fixed that with their current in stock right now.our if they give you one that got the problem.ask for another one and choose the one that's good cuz not all of them are infected. G2 is good.
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Personally, I've decided not to purchase the G2 since they made it so difficult to root.. get the Nexus S
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Personally, I've decided not to purchase the G2 since they made it so difficult to root.. get the Nexus S
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But it is still not clear how easy it will be to root nexus S. Sure there will be an option to unlock the boot loader and loose the warranty. But no one know about any reversible root procedure on nexus S.
I would stick with N1 because of rooting and HTC seems not to care if you root you phone. I had 2 swapped out and both were rooted running different roms. Samsung might not be that cool about unlocking boot loader and rooting.
Hang onto the Nexus One a while longer. I got mine in January, its still going. If I had to choose one of the phones you list, I would probably get the MyTouch, I need a actual touchpad/ball
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Hang onto the Nexus One a while longer. I got mine in January, its still going. If I had to choose one of the phones you list, I would probably get the MyTouch, I need a actual touchpad/ball
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Yea the MyTouch has some good specs. Its just ugly. Perhaps you can replace the case on that thing and get rid of that bright green button.
If your going to trade or sell your N1 to get one of the three. I say get the G2.
1.Incredible hardware/ clearly superior to the N1.
2.Awesome dev community. (This is where I'd say it beats the MT4G)
3.Plus, HTC has released the source code for the G2, so it won't hit a brickwall in development.
4.The going rate for a N1 is between $3-400.00 you could get a used G2 for about that price and not have to spend a dime on your upgrade.
If your just going to outright purchase one of the three phones, I'd say wait for something more groundbreaking early next year.
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Personally, I've decided not to purchase the G2 since they made it so difficult to root.. get the Nexus S
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Developers already successfully rooted the g2 permanently though.
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But it is still not clear how easy it will be to root nexus S. Sure there will be an option to unlock the boot loader and loose the warranty. But no one know about any reversible root procedure on nexus S.
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Developers already successfully rooted the g2 permanently though.
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I wasn't clear.. I'm aware of the state of G2's root, my point being that it was a drawn out process to achieve root with lots of complaining and from this point on I intend on voting with my $$$ and purchasing only phones that support "fastboot oem unlock".. My personal opinion is that carriers hear these votes more than angry tweets/emails, and if people didn't purchase the G2 and instead went with the truly open Nexus S, Android hardware as a whole would benefit

Atrix Vs N1 Vs DHD

hey guys i have to buy one of these phones this wednesday. which one youguys think is better and why? please share and help me out
get the atrix if you can love with a locked boot loader , not sure though but most likely. But its got the best hardware out of all 3
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hey guys i have to buy one of these phones this wednesday. which one youguys think is better and why? please share and help me out
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Atrix has the best hardware but won't get custom roms. The Desire HD has lots of custom roms.
The N1 is too old to get as a new phone now.
If I had to pick one of the three by Wednesday it would be the Desire HD. Motorola is a deal breaker for me as of today.
I have both the Nexus One and the Inspire, and am currently conflicted as to which one to use for everyday use. Right now I am on the N1 with Gingerbread, and waiting for a 2.3 release for the Inspire. Both are very capable phones, though I have had several major crashes on a bone stock Inspire.
The Nexus One was a recent thank you gift from a client, and the Inspire was a replacement from AT&T for the Captivate.
Atrix if hardware specs are important for you.
Desire HD if you want custom roms
N1 is the lousiest in terms of specs between the 3 phones, but is google branded and have the latest gingerbread official rom
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N1 is the lousiest in terms of specs between the 3 phones, but is google branded and have the latest gingerbread official rom
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May be N1 is a too old to buy but it is not the lousiest... it is just an old hardware which was the best out there at the time... it still is better build quality than the DHD IMO, may be it is quiet comparable to the Atrix atleast considering build quality.
Again, it all depends on what's coming up next and I personally prefer Atrix if I was lucky to get it on any of the canadian careers
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May be N1 is a too old to buy but it is not the lousiest... it is just an old hardware which was the best out there at the time... it still is better build quality than the DHD IMO, may be it is quiet comparable to the Atrix atleast considering build quality.
Again, it all depends on what's coming up next and I personally prefer Atrix if I was lucky to get it on any of the canadian careers
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It's coming to bell soon. Check the website.
N1 is still a great phone. But the Motorola Atrix is sweet in hardware. I going to have to up a MAX phone. (Motorola Atrix)
I looked at the atrix today, and was surprised at how small it is. Not much bigger than the n1
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I looked at the atrix today, and was surprised at how small it is. Not much bigger than the n1
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It's only .3 inch different.
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get the atrix if you can live with a locked boot loader. Its got the best hardware out of all 3
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I agree. Most people don't root so as long as you are one of the many that don't then go for the Atrix 4g. 1930mAh battery is a game changer!
Well now that I have the Nexus I fell as though I can make a good argument.
I used the Atrix 4G all day, every day for about 5 days when I first got it, then traded my iPad for the Nexus o1
At this point, I have both of those and a Captivate, which I used tto compare the speeds.
Having them all hooked up over wifi aand loading the full Engadget page, the Atrix came in first with the Nexus coming maybe 2 seconds later at the most.
Pages load quickly, embedded flash plays nicely as well. I love the size and notification lights too.
All in all, I would say to get the Nexus one now (Haven't used the Desire) and save your upgrade for later this year; at least that's what I'm doing.
Personally I'm waiting, but if you have to buy then get the Atrix.

Large upgrade for others? ^_^

I'm upgrading from a Sprint Evo 4G and I'm blown away when I compare the specs of the two phones, regardless of what Samsung throws out in the next few weeks I'm getting the One, HTC build quality just blows me away, my Evo 4G lasted 2 1/2 years or so and the battery charges like new, and the phone is 95 percent mint condition, with the tiniest scratch on the screen from a drunk accident.
Who else is making a drastic upgrade and from what model?
I'm upgrading from an iPhone 4 I've had for 2 and a half years so this is big for me, especially since I'm moving over from iOS to android. I can't wait.
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AW: Large upgrade for others? ^_^
xXxG0dzRAgexXx said:
I'm upgrading from an iPhone 4 I've had for 2 and a half years so this is big for me, especially since I'm moving over from iOS to android. I can't wait.
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I like you
You will enjoy the freedom of modding and customization.
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I'm upgrading from a Samsung Vibrant. I would have kept the device because it was actually good enough for me. But I damaged the LCD cable and now it displays red-tinted colors. This, and some previous problems like a (very) scratched screen, SD card slot half-broken, GPS never works, camera lens missing....
Well, I think I need a replacement
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I'm upgrading from an iPhone 4 I've had for 2 and a half years so this is big for me, especially since I'm moving over from iOS to android. I can't wait.
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Don't be afraid, welcome the freedom with open arms and customize to your hearts content.
im still going to wait on the GS4 reveal before i order, but im 95% sure ill be getting the One, right now i have a 2 year old HTC Incredible S which is actually on android 4.2.1 and ill be very sad to see it go!
jonas2295 said:
I like you
You will enjoy the freedom of modding and customization.
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Don't be afraid, welcome the freedom with open arms and customize to your hearts content.
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I'm definitely gonna love it. While a jailbroken iPhone was fun and all, and still pretty customizable, It will never have the extensible customization android has. Also Android has come a long way since the time i got my iPhone 4. Can't wait to root my device when a root becomes available. Been reading up on all my stuff so i won't be a total noob when I get my HTC One.
I'm coming from the old trusty mytouch 4g. Been having this baby for over 2 years. It's time for an upgrade.
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I'm coming from the old trusty mytouch 4g. Been having this baby for over 2 years. It's time for an upgrade.
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The mytouch4G was my favorite phone next to my s3. Still runs great, after two plus years. Stepdaughter uses it now and she loves it.
This is the 1st HTC phone I have been interested since the Amaze, which the wife has now. I wasn't that big on the Amaze acfually, but was a nice phone hardware wise.
See how it goes after the s4 is launched.
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Upgrading from the Nexus One I've been using since April or May 2010. It's gonna make an awesome difference.
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The mytouch4G was my favorite phone next to my s3. Still runs great, after two plus years. Stepdaughter uses it now and she loves it.
This is the 1st HTC phone I have been interested since the Amaze, which the wife has now. I wasn't that big on the Amaze acfually, but was a nice phone hardware wise.
See how it goes after the s4 is launched.
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Yup, a lot of my friends still don't believe my mytouch is running the same OS as them and in some cases still very much powerful. If it wasn't for the One being announced, I probably would've stuck with it for a few more month maybe another year. But the One sold me.
I bought the amaze for my wife. It's a very good device. It just never got that support it needed. I'm probably one of the few that think the camera is great.
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iPhone 3GS bought early August 2009.
Beat that
djbenny1 said:
im still going to wait on the GS4 reveal before i order, but im 95% sure ill be getting the One, right now i have a 2 year old HTC Incredible S which is actually on android 4.2.1 and ill be very sad to see it go!
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I'm in the same boat as you, also 95% sure I want the One but want to see what Samsung is rolling out first and since I'm in the US I don't have a choice in the matter.
Upgrading from a SGII. Looking forward to a phone that doesn't feel like a kids toy.
djbenny1 said:
im still going to wait on the GS4 reveal before i order, but im 95% sure ill be getting the One, right now i have a 2 year old HTC Incredible S which is actually on android 4.2.1 and ill be very sad to see it go!
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Same case here! I went to the town in Liverpool to have a hands-on today. I must say the phone is stunning, and without any doubt captures amazing photos, let alone the extra capabilities to shoot slow-motion videos and sequence shots and the ability to edit them thereafter. Boomsound is not only decent, it is so loud that it could easily fill up a small reading room without any assistance of external speakers. The sound is, of course, crisp and clear.
Ever since the phone is rumoured to release i have been monitoring its progress. Have to regrettably admit that i have never been that hardworking in my studies. HTC One definitely lives up to my expectations, in fact it surpasses them.
Ordered the Silver once i got back. Now I'm dying to get it.
Upgrading from the HTC Incredible S myself, there's nothing actually wrong with the phone, and nothing on the market was even remotely luring me into buying it until I saw the HTC One. I am completely sold on it, never been a fan of GS3 (sure, awesome specs, but I really didn't like the way it handled/felt)
My biggest problem is picking the color, I absolutely adore both black and silver, so I picked the silver out of a coin toss
Upgrading from my HTC sensation. While it served me well, I can't resist the HTC One. Was nowhere near as interested in last year's One-X series...have to say that I'm genuinely excited and counting the days until my pre-order arrives.
DHD all the way! I'll still be keeping it
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I will be leaving my trusty 3VO. Though not a huge upgrade, it's still quite the upgrade, and I'm especially liking all I've seen about the upgrade in the camera! I will miss my familiarity, as I changed my digitizer twice and my wife's once, and REALLY miss my lack of volume down button (from the 1st digitizer change)...
I'm coming from my (nearly) 3 year old HTC Desire.... Can't wait! got the black version on pre-order.
Upgrading from MyTouch 4g Slide. It all started when the digitizer got broken into pieces had it replaced then a few weeks it totally shut itself down permanently. Right now am using my HTC Sensation so yeah a big upgrade for me.

Nexus 4 Advice?

Sorry, I know this topic is EVERYWHERE but I still cannot decide..
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S3. I'm thinking of getting the N4 just cause its so cheap, however I've been looking at the HTC One as well.
Hardware wise, HTC one leads.. I love the front facing speakers, and the fact that its HTC makes it even better.. I loved the HTC Nexus One, so solid...
I'm still torn between these two phones, and I need someone to let me know what I should go for. Is it worth the extra $250-$300 for the HTC one? OR should I just get the N4?
Thanks
Indeed
Get it and don't look back. Whatever you do though, get the 16gb version. The 8gb version just leaves you with 5 gbs of usable data, and that is noooo good. I get better battery life than my girlfriend who has an s3, and I am constantly beating her phone in very unscientific tests that I run.
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The Nexus is a beautiful phone, how about getting it...and if you don't like it sell it and get the One. You would get pretty much all your money back as they are very popular
yea you could get a lot of money if you sell it afterwards just for the fact it is unlocked out of the box:good:
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xxsashixx said:
Sorry, I know this topic is EVERYWHERE but I still cannot decide..
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S3. I'm thinking of getting the N4 just cause its so cheap, however I've been looking at the HTC One as well.
Hardware wise, HTC one leads.. I love the front facing speakers, and the fact that its HTC makes it even better.. I loved the HTC Nexus One, so solid...
I'm still torn between these two phones, and I need someone to let me know what I should go for. Is it worth the extra $250-$300 for the HTC one? OR should I just get the N4?
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I use the N4, but if I were to get a new phone today, I would definitely consider the One. I think it's designed really well and I too like the idea of front facing speakers. I like having music on around me and when I'm away from home, I'll often use my phone for playing music. When it's convenient, I'll use my earbuds. When not, I may have to resort to playing it through the speaker. Even with the LG bumper lifting the back off the surface it's resting on, the sound coming out of the speaker is more tinny and muffled compared with my past phones. Finally, while I enjoy the design of the N4 and its liberal use of glass, it does have a certain sense of fragility to it which I don't associate with the aluminum clad One. If you do get an N4, I''m sure be unhappy. But I wouldn't mind if I could get LTE data speeds.
HTC One and the Nexus 4 are tough. If you can manage putting AOSP on the One, it'd be awesome. I'd have a tough time too.
Get two nexuses!
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I think your comparison is really not that ... Uhhhh... Justified... Esp due to the price range... If you want to decide between newer high end phones it should probably be the ONE vs the S4... Not the One vs the N⁴...
I personally do love the n⁴ but I must say the ONLY 2 things which gives it an edge over anything else is the Vanilla/prompt updates, and the reasonable price. If I had the extra money to spend I would definitely get the ONE or S⁴ Google Edition... Alas I don't tho...
So if you could get the One then I would say go for that... Just try to get the unlocked boot loader version (developer edition) so you can do as you please with roms...
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DrunkFuX666 said:
I think your comparison is really not that ... Uhhhh... Justified... Esp due to the price range... If you want to decide between newer high end phones it should probably be the ONE vs the S4... Not the One vs the N⁴...
I personally do love the n⁴ but I must say the ONLY 2 things which gives it an edge over anything else is the Vanilla/prompt updates, and the reasonable price. If I had the extra money to spend I would definitely get the ONE or S⁴ Google Edition... Alas I don't tho...
So if you could get the One then I would say go for that... Just try to get the unlocked boot loader version (developer edition) so you can do as you please with roms...
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If I do not get the Developer version of the one, am I still able to unlock the bootloader?
Edit: nvm, quick google says "Yes" to all carriers
Edit2: Still trying to decide, I CAN put down another $300 on the HTC one.. but I'm not sure if its WORTH it.. thats the problem
xxsashixx said:
If I do not get the Developer version of the one, am I still able to unlock the bootloader?
Edit: nvm, quick google says "Yes" to all carriers
Edit2: Still trying to decide, I CAN put down another $300 on the HTC one.. but I'm not sure if its WORTH it.. thats the problem
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I think it will be and I'll tell you why...
If Its unlockable then you can get to the latest firmware updates if not the same day, within say 2-3 weeks using cyanogen or some ROM who will update...
Your getting a better camera and screen and aluminium body with front stereo speakers... That's excellent hardware well worth the extra money... Because if you use the phone alot... All these factors come Into play in the long run... If your more of a casual user who primarily uses the phone as a phone... Then its probably not worth the extra money...
In my opinion my phone is like a laptop replacement... I use it ALOT... Hence I rather spend more on a phone than a Computer as the computer just collects dust with a powerful smartphone...
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Here you go - the Google Edition of the One:
http://m.androidcentral.com/google-edition-htc-one-coming-soon-vanilla-android
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Sorry if im posting in the wrong section but i was wondering after i have rooted and installed a custom rom on my nexus 4 can i still get official android updates such as 4.3 jelly bean
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Sorry if im posting in the wrong section but i was wondering after i have rooted and installed a custom rom on my nexus 4 can i still get official android updates such as 4.3 jelly bean
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No... You will need to be on stock for that...
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So will cyanogenmod release a version based on the latest jellybean
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So will cyanogenmod release a version based on the latest jellybean
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Yes ever ROM will
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If you are not planning to use the camera much, get the N4, otherwise go for the HTC.
Ultimately it's up to you.
Sold my Galaxy S4 today and bought a Nexus 4 again. The S4 was laggy as hell and packed with way to much bloatware. The screen, speaker and camera however we`re very good. But overalll it was a dissapointment for me. While on paper the specs look great the firmware is very bad atm so the performance is meh......
what would happen if i updated my nexus 4 to 4.3 jellybean on a custom rom like cyanogenmod
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what would happen if i updated my nexus 4 to 4.3 jellybean on a custom rom like cyanogenmod
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It would explode
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You have to keep the retail price in mind. If you get the HTC one and a new phone comes out, how popular will your phone become? The HTC one x was a good phone but as of now it's selling for around $230 on eBay. I had a galaxy nexus which was released 2 years ago and I still sold out for 280.
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8 Months Later, is it still worth it?

Im due for an upgrade in May, and im debating between the Moto X and the S5 (sadly, i dont see the Z2 coming to ATT, ever) and i was wondering for those who owned one, if you thought it was still worth it. Any opinion is appreciated.
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For me, absolutely. I went as far as to buy a second Dev edition in case I ever break mine. If you're a power user, it might not be for you because of the dual core or lower clock speed. Also if you're a bit of a flashaholic, not much development going on. However most of us who own the device think things like active display and touchless controls outweigh the downsides (by miles in my opinion). No one can tell you if you'll like the phone, I suggest getting your hands on one to see if you even like these features before you make a decision.
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StATicxTW0T said:
For me, absolutely. I went as far as to buy a second Dev edition in case I ever break mine. If you're a power user, it might not be for you because of the dual core or lower clock speed. Also if you're a bit of a flashaholic, not much development going on. However most of us who own the device think things like active display and touchless controls outweigh the downsides (by miles in my opinion). No one can tell you if you'll like the phone, I suggest getting your hands on one to see if you even like these features before you make a decision.
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Personally, i used to be a flashaholic, but since nov/dec, ive really settled on the google edition stock htc one rom, which is pretty close to the moto x rom if im correct; so the lack of develepment, while dissapointing, is not reason for me to shy away. I have played with a moto x a couple months ago at my local costco, but thats not as good as having one untethered and really able to mess around with. The idea of the wood backs, active notifications, insane battery life, supreme radio performance, and small form factor are the factors that pull me to it. Everyone who has/had one seems to say they love it, and im betting i really would too.
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Toxicoblivion said:
Personally, i used to be a flashaholic, but since nov/dec, ive really settled on the google edition stock htc one rom, which is pretty close to the moto x rom if im correct; so the lack of develepment, while dissapointing, is not reason for me to shy away. I have played with a moto x a couple months ago at my local costco, but thats not as good as having one untethered and really able to mess around with. The idea of the wood backs, active notifications, insane battery life, supreme radio performance, and small form factor are the factors that pull me to it. Everyone who has/had one seems to say they love it, and im betting i really would too.
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If you want all of Samsung's bloat and gimmicky features plus Samsung Knox just to get the "better specs" I'd say go for the gs5. If you look at the at&t note 3 forums especially the development section they don't have much development going on either because of Samsung knox. You want a great phone that's has everyday usefulness go moto x but don't get the carrier branded moto x get the Dev edition. But if you can wait several months the moto x2 might be out.
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the moto x is truly wonderful, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better.
i would personally wait for the moto x 2.
or the Z2 for that matter, if it does make it to ATT.
the special features are really nice, but i don't feel like its enough of an upgrade over the HTC one.
the camera is pretty mediocre, and so is the screen. the speakers obviously would not be as impressive.
battery would be about the same.
the Z2 on the other hand would improve in many aspects over the One.
so i would wait for the new moto x so you get your moneys worth instead of side-stepping, which might have you dissapointed with your X the minute the new X comes out.
I should also note that i would only really have it for 6 monthsish. I also have an upgrade in december, so yeah.
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well then if you want to try something new go for the moto x, if you really want an all out upgrade, as much as i'm not really interested in the device, the S5 is a better upgrade.
the only thing the moto x has going for it against the S5 is the form factor and the active display honestly (which is pretty awesome but still feasible on the S5 which also has a LED display).
I love the moto x but given your choice i would probably opt for the galaxy 5 and wait for december for the new motorola, whatever it will be.
the galaxy will have a much better camera, performance, battery, display, micro sd slot, removable battery, water and dust protection, some nice features, and as far as i can tell will also have always listening mode (which was available in the note 3, so should be on the S5)
probably have better wifi reception and connectivity also.
the only downside would be the touchwiz rom, which has honestly gotten much better than the days of the S2 (i still don't like it though).
however, this is going to probably be the most popular android phone and thus will have the largest dev community, you can expect to have an AOSP rom in no time to solve that issue.
I really like both of my moto x's. I don't flash roms with the moto x like I have with other phones in the past. I feel like it is well balanced for us who like to mod and also for normal users. My wife has the regular white moto x coming from a iphone 4s and she loves it. Personally I would save the upgrade, and buy a barely used moto x on swappa.
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I really like both of my moto x's. I don't flash roms with the moto x like I have with other phones in the past. I feel like it is well balanced for us who like to mod and also for normal users. My wife has the regular white moto x coming from a iphone 4s and she loves it. Personally I would save the upgrade, and buy a barely used moto x on swappa.
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Do you know for about how much that would cost?
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Toxicoblivion said:
Do you know for about how much that would cost?
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Here is a link to the at&t moto x on swappa. I've seen good deals on there.
http://swappa.com/buy/moto-x-att/us
guybanda said:
well then if you want to try something new go for the moto x, if you really want an all out upgrade, as much as i'm not really interested in the device, the S5 is a better upgrade.
the only thing the moto x has going for it against the S5 is the form factor and the active display honestly (which is pretty awesome but still feasible on the S5 which also has a LED display).
I love the moto x but given your choice i would probably opt for the galaxy 5 and wait for december for the new motorola, whatever it will be.
the galaxy will have a much better camera, performance, battery, display, micro sd slot, removable battery, water and dust protection, some nice features, and as far as i can tell will also have always listening mode (which was available in the note 3, so should be on the S5)
probably have better wifi reception and connectivity also.
the only downside would be the touchwiz rom, which has honestly gotten much better than the days of the S2 (i still don't like it though).
however, this is going to probably be the most popular android phone and thus will have the largest dev community, you can expect to have an AOSP rom in no time to solve that issue.
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This is probably one of the best responses i could have read. Everybody mentions the new moto phone, but is that even confirmed? And i had an S3 that i modded the hell out of, but i was never really thrilled with it. Its a very important choice, but its nice to see such a good review like this. I promise to keep this all in mind as i make my choice in the next 2 months. thank you sir!
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For those who made custom Moto X's, has any gotten the wood backs/ does anyone know how well they stand up to heat? (Up to 110°F and down to 40°F) Does the back warp or does it stay solid in its form factor?
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My ebony back looks great. Been rolling naked even.
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My ebony back looks great. Been rolling naked even.
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How does it stand up to heat changes? Any warping?
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Nope. Hardly a scratch though I use a leather pouch. Hardly heats up though. Only when playing games.
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Personally, i used to be a flashaholic, but since nov/dec, ive really settled on the google edition stock htc one rom, which is pretty close to the moto x rom if im correct; so the lack of develepment, while dissapointing, is not reason for me to shy away. I have played with a moto x a couple months ago at my local costco, but thats not as good as having one untethered and really able to mess around with. The idea of the wood backs, active notifications, insane battery life, supreme radio performance, and small form factor are the factors that pull me to it. Everyone who has/had one seems to say they love it, and im betting i really would too.
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I can't speak for the X, but the Maxx is wonderful. I get like 8+ hours of screen on regularly over about 36 hours. I wish it had an IR blaster, but it's not a deal breaker. It's smoother than my S4 is. Especially when updating apps. The s4 will lag while doing that but the Maxx doesn't. Just my 0.02
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Nope. Hardly a scratch though I use a leather pouch. Hardly heats up though. Only when playing games.
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Awesome! Thanks! Glad to hear!
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The s5 may be difficult to root I'm guessing and development may be quiet. I'd get an unlockable x personally.
The s5 will be marginally better than the s4 and has touchwiz. Ewwww.
Plus the x can be got just over 300, the s5 will be 700+. Notttttt worth the price difference.
IMO.
I'll add this....Samsung, aside from camera, will never match the quality of the moto x.
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StATicxTW0T said:
For me, absolutely. I went as far as to buy a second Dev edition in case I ever break mine. If you're a power user, it might not be for you because of the dual core or lower clock speed. Also if you're a bit of a flashaholic, not much development going on. However most of us who own the device think things like active display and touchless controls outweigh the downsides (by miles in my opinion). No one can tell you if you'll like the phone, I suggest getting your hands on one to see if you even like these features before you make a decision.
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The GSM/T-Mobile version -- Model # 1053 -- is also a attractive option. Its sim unlocked / unbranded / no bloatware and, unlike the developer edition, it can use the Moto Maker design options. I had both an AT&T version and the GSM version, and ended up selling the AT&T phone. The GSM received the 4.4.2 update weeks ago, but still waiting for the AT&T phone update. Can also tether on AT&T without any special AT&T plan.
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The s5 may be difficult to root I'm guessing and development may be quiet. I'd get an unlockable x personally.
The s5 will be marginally better than the s4 and has touchwiz. Ewwww.
Plus the x can be got just over 300, the s5 will be 700+. Notttttt worth the price difference.
IMO.
I'll add this....Samsung, aside from camera, will never match the quality of the moto x.
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Yeah know 2.0 might a deal breaker for some people. Helluva an upgrade for peeps coming from s3. Hardly an upgrade from s4. Does seem like it is highest quality galaxy s so far. The camera so far looms great in low light but can't vouche for it til consumers get it. Still kind of disappointing though. It better get spectacular battery life or something.
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