Im due for an upgrade in May, and im debating between the Moto X and the S5 (sadly, i dont see the Z2 coming to ATT, ever) and i was wondering for those who owned one, if you thought it was still worth it. Any opinion is appreciated.
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For me, absolutely. I went as far as to buy a second Dev edition in case I ever break mine. If you're a power user, it might not be for you because of the dual core or lower clock speed. Also if you're a bit of a flashaholic, not much development going on. However most of us who own the device think things like active display and touchless controls outweigh the downsides (by miles in my opinion). No one can tell you if you'll like the phone, I suggest getting your hands on one to see if you even like these features before you make a decision.
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For me, absolutely. I went as far as to buy a second Dev edition in case I ever break mine. If you're a power user, it might not be for you because of the dual core or lower clock speed. Also if you're a bit of a flashaholic, not much development going on. However most of us who own the device think things like active display and touchless controls outweigh the downsides (by miles in my opinion). No one can tell you if you'll like the phone, I suggest getting your hands on one to see if you even like these features before you make a decision.
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Personally, i used to be a flashaholic, but since nov/dec, ive really settled on the google edition stock htc one rom, which is pretty close to the moto x rom if im correct; so the lack of develepment, while dissapointing, is not reason for me to shy away. I have played with a moto x a couple months ago at my local costco, but thats not as good as having one untethered and really able to mess around with. The idea of the wood backs, active notifications, insane battery life, supreme radio performance, and small form factor are the factors that pull me to it. Everyone who has/had one seems to say they love it, and im betting i really would too.
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Personally, i used to be a flashaholic, but since nov/dec, ive really settled on the google edition stock htc one rom, which is pretty close to the moto x rom if im correct; so the lack of develepment, while dissapointing, is not reason for me to shy away. I have played with a moto x a couple months ago at my local costco, but thats not as good as having one untethered and really able to mess around with. The idea of the wood backs, active notifications, insane battery life, supreme radio performance, and small form factor are the factors that pull me to it. Everyone who has/had one seems to say they love it, and im betting i really would too.
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If you want all of Samsung's bloat and gimmicky features plus Samsung Knox just to get the "better specs" I'd say go for the gs5. If you look at the at&t note 3 forums especially the development section they don't have much development going on either because of Samsung knox. You want a great phone that's has everyday usefulness go moto x but don't get the carrier branded moto x get the Dev edition. But if you can wait several months the moto x2 might be out.
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the moto x is truly wonderful, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better.
i would personally wait for the moto x 2.
or the Z2 for that matter, if it does make it to ATT.
the special features are really nice, but i don't feel like its enough of an upgrade over the HTC one.
the camera is pretty mediocre, and so is the screen. the speakers obviously would not be as impressive.
battery would be about the same.
the Z2 on the other hand would improve in many aspects over the One.
so i would wait for the new moto x so you get your moneys worth instead of side-stepping, which might have you dissapointed with your X the minute the new X comes out.
I should also note that i would only really have it for 6 monthsish. I also have an upgrade in december, so yeah.
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well then if you want to try something new go for the moto x, if you really want an all out upgrade, as much as i'm not really interested in the device, the S5 is a better upgrade.
the only thing the moto x has going for it against the S5 is the form factor and the active display honestly (which is pretty awesome but still feasible on the S5 which also has a LED display).
I love the moto x but given your choice i would probably opt for the galaxy 5 and wait for december for the new motorola, whatever it will be.
the galaxy will have a much better camera, performance, battery, display, micro sd slot, removable battery, water and dust protection, some nice features, and as far as i can tell will also have always listening mode (which was available in the note 3, so should be on the S5)
probably have better wifi reception and connectivity also.
the only downside would be the touchwiz rom, which has honestly gotten much better than the days of the S2 (i still don't like it though).
however, this is going to probably be the most popular android phone and thus will have the largest dev community, you can expect to have an AOSP rom in no time to solve that issue.
I really like both of my moto x's. I don't flash roms with the moto x like I have with other phones in the past. I feel like it is well balanced for us who like to mod and also for normal users. My wife has the regular white moto x coming from a iphone 4s and she loves it. Personally I would save the upgrade, and buy a barely used moto x on swappa.
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I really like both of my moto x's. I don't flash roms with the moto x like I have with other phones in the past. I feel like it is well balanced for us who like to mod and also for normal users. My wife has the regular white moto x coming from a iphone 4s and she loves it. Personally I would save the upgrade, and buy a barely used moto x on swappa.
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Do you know for about how much that would cost?
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Do you know for about how much that would cost?
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Here is a link to the at&t moto x on swappa. I've seen good deals on there.
http://swappa.com/buy/moto-x-att/us
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well then if you want to try something new go for the moto x, if you really want an all out upgrade, as much as i'm not really interested in the device, the S5 is a better upgrade.
the only thing the moto x has going for it against the S5 is the form factor and the active display honestly (which is pretty awesome but still feasible on the S5 which also has a LED display).
I love the moto x but given your choice i would probably opt for the galaxy 5 and wait for december for the new motorola, whatever it will be.
the galaxy will have a much better camera, performance, battery, display, micro sd slot, removable battery, water and dust protection, some nice features, and as far as i can tell will also have always listening mode (which was available in the note 3, so should be on the S5)
probably have better wifi reception and connectivity also.
the only downside would be the touchwiz rom, which has honestly gotten much better than the days of the S2 (i still don't like it though).
however, this is going to probably be the most popular android phone and thus will have the largest dev community, you can expect to have an AOSP rom in no time to solve that issue.
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This is probably one of the best responses i could have read. Everybody mentions the new moto phone, but is that even confirmed? And i had an S3 that i modded the hell out of, but i was never really thrilled with it. Its a very important choice, but its nice to see such a good review like this. I promise to keep this all in mind as i make my choice in the next 2 months. thank you sir!
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For those who made custom Moto X's, has any gotten the wood backs/ does anyone know how well they stand up to heat? (Up to 110°F and down to 40°F) Does the back warp or does it stay solid in its form factor?
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My ebony back looks great. Been rolling naked even.
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My ebony back looks great. Been rolling naked even.
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How does it stand up to heat changes? Any warping?
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Nope. Hardly a scratch though I use a leather pouch. Hardly heats up though. Only when playing games.
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Personally, i used to be a flashaholic, but since nov/dec, ive really settled on the google edition stock htc one rom, which is pretty close to the moto x rom if im correct; so the lack of develepment, while dissapointing, is not reason for me to shy away. I have played with a moto x a couple months ago at my local costco, but thats not as good as having one untethered and really able to mess around with. The idea of the wood backs, active notifications, insane battery life, supreme radio performance, and small form factor are the factors that pull me to it. Everyone who has/had one seems to say they love it, and im betting i really would too.
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I can't speak for the X, but the Maxx is wonderful. I get like 8+ hours of screen on regularly over about 36 hours. I wish it had an IR blaster, but it's not a deal breaker. It's smoother than my S4 is. Especially when updating apps. The s4 will lag while doing that but the Maxx doesn't. Just my 0.02
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Nope. Hardly a scratch though I use a leather pouch. Hardly heats up though. Only when playing games.
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Awesome! Thanks! Glad to hear!
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The s5 may be difficult to root I'm guessing and development may be quiet. I'd get an unlockable x personally.
The s5 will be marginally better than the s4 and has touchwiz. Ewwww.
Plus the x can be got just over 300, the s5 will be 700+. Notttttt worth the price difference.
IMO.
I'll add this....Samsung, aside from camera, will never match the quality of the moto x.
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For me, absolutely. I went as far as to buy a second Dev edition in case I ever break mine. If you're a power user, it might not be for you because of the dual core or lower clock speed. Also if you're a bit of a flashaholic, not much development going on. However most of us who own the device think things like active display and touchless controls outweigh the downsides (by miles in my opinion). No one can tell you if you'll like the phone, I suggest getting your hands on one to see if you even like these features before you make a decision.
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The GSM/T-Mobile version -- Model # 1053 -- is also a attractive option. Its sim unlocked / unbranded / no bloatware and, unlike the developer edition, it can use the Moto Maker design options. I had both an AT&T version and the GSM version, and ended up selling the AT&T phone. The GSM received the 4.4.2 update weeks ago, but still waiting for the AT&T phone update. Can also tether on AT&T without any special AT&T plan.
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The s5 may be difficult to root I'm guessing and development may be quiet. I'd get an unlockable x personally.
The s5 will be marginally better than the s4 and has touchwiz. Ewwww.
Plus the x can be got just over 300, the s5 will be 700+. Notttttt worth the price difference.
IMO.
I'll add this....Samsung, aside from camera, will never match the quality of the moto x.
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Yeah know 2.0 might a deal breaker for some people. Helluva an upgrade for peeps coming from s3. Hardly an upgrade from s4. Does seem like it is highest quality galaxy s so far. The camera so far looms great in low light but can't vouche for it til consumers get it. Still kind of disappointing though. It better get spectacular battery life or something.
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Hey guys, i think about buying me a new phone with a dual core, because i think that this is the minimum configuration of a smartphone today (At the moment i have an optimus black).
Can you still recommend the RAZR (and why) or would you prefer other lowpriced (older) smartphones like the Nexus oder the Galaxy S2.
Thanks
I have a Galaxy Nexus and my girlfriend just got the Razr HD Maxx (Major upgrade from her Droid 2), and it really depends on what you are into. The device is amazingly snappy (Even more than my fully rooted, ROM'd, custom kernel Galaxy Nexus), and the radios are much stronger than my Galaxy Nexus (A lot of times she will have 4G in buildings where I only have 1 or 2 bars of 3G). Also, the 3300 Mah battery is insane, it literally is a full day phone, usually she has 45% at the end of the day (She uses it a lot for pinterest, facebook, all that girly stuff). But, the main problem is that it does not have stock Android, and probably won't for a while. If that bothers you then go with the Galaxy Nexus otherwise this is definitely a great phone to have.
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I have a Galaxy Nexus and my girlfriend just got the Razr HD Maxx (Major upgrade from her Droid 2), and it really depends on what you are into. The device is amazingly snappy (Even more than my fully rooted, ROM'd, custom kernel Galaxy Nexus), and the radios are much stronger than my Galaxy Nexus (A lot of times she will have 4G in buildings where I only have 1 or 2 bars of 3G). Also, the 3300 Mah battery is insane, it literally is a full day phone, usually she has 45% at the end of the day (She uses it a lot for pinterest, facebook, all that girly stuff). But, the main problem is that it does not have stock Android, and probably won't for a while. If that bothers you then go with the Galaxy Nexus otherwise this is definitely a great phone to have.
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Motorola is the only company that came out and said they wanted to be stock Android, but the carriers request the skins. That wins points in my books, and in all honesty it still looks closer to aosp than any other phone out there.
It all depends on what your looking for op. If you want great battery and build then this phone will be perfect. If you need the best camera or a removable battery, you might want to look elsewhere.
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Looked at getting it for a while, but decided on the SGS3 since it had a great camera and a removable battery.
I'm in the same boat. I like the razr because its as close to stock android you can get without being a nexus phone. Build quality and battery also look great. The one thing I'm concerned about is all the restrictions moto puts on their phone and the bloatware I'll have to remove once I root it.
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Razr buying or not?
Razr is a good phone i have tried it out and it works really well
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Bought the HD dev and waiting for it to arrive. Can't beat moto build quality and radio. Root is already available so you can freeze all the bloat easily. Aside from waiting for the quad core phones to arrive I think this is right with (if not above) the sgIII.
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I'm strongly considering the MAXX HD. the general reviews seem good, the guts seem fine... a few complaints about the software/bloatware, but that's why I come to XDA. If the MAXX HD will get a root/recovery/ROM situation that supports AOKP or CM10 or whatever... that's the key. The phone's preload would be immediately lobotomized upon delivery and I'd set up with a rooted ROM as I'm accustomed to!
So, I'll be intently watching all the threads in the Razr HD section (presumably which covers the new MAXX HD as well :silly: )
Glad this section of the forum is up and running. I will likely be switching from Sprint to Verizon soon and this phone is exactly what I want. I'm on the Sprint Galaxy S2 right now but really want to give a Moto phone a shot over a S3. I can't wait to read some more opinions in the next few weeks.
Just picked one up yesterday was kind of nervous being that I was coming from the fiasco that was Motorolas Droid 3 but I now have no regrets. Wifi is kinda choppy but not bad. They will probably fix it in the future
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Just ordered two from Simplexity online today. One HD - white for my wife and one Maxx HD for myself. They all got shipped out today and expect to arrive tomorrow afternoon. It is much better deal than local Verizon store and Costco. Cost me under $300 for two without tax. :laugh:
I cannot recommend the maxx enough. I'll take a huge sealed battery over a small removable battery any day. GS3 is nice hardware but I just can't get over the cheap feel and bloated UI of Samsung phones. A Ferrari engine in a Hyundai is still a Hyundai. I wanted the Ferrari design as well.
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I cannot recommend the maxx enough. I'll take a huge sealed battery over a small removable battery any day. GS3 is nice hardware but I just can't get over the cheap feel and bloated UI of Samsung phones. A Ferrari engine in a Hyundai is still a Hyundai. I wanted the Ferrari design as well.
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A Ferrari engine in a Hyundai would be one hell of a sleeper
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RAZR with a month, I feel very satisfied, after all, is not specifically Brush play, buy a mobile phone is bought with satisfaction like these mainstream flagship machine configuration is absolutely enough, which the machine's ROM will also gamewill have to see the landlord preferences.
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Um. What?
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orgalu said:
RAZR with a month, I feel very satisfied, after all, is not specifically Brush play, buy a mobile phone is bought with satisfaction like these mainstream flagship machine configuration is absolutely enough, which the machine's ROM will also gamewill have to see the landlord preferences.
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I totally agree that I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Paid $650 outright for my Maxx HD, I feel it was well spent. (Paid retail to keep my grandfathered unlimited data)
Coming from a Droid 2, the reception seems inferior, but it's hard to say at this point. Don't plan to return, but it will take another week or two to fully evaluate.
I've been away from my native north jersey at a conference in CA (4G everywhere, etc). Battery life is simply stunning, and responsiveness on ICS is amazing. Was running CM9 on my D2 and this is a huge step up. When you throw in the beautiful design, nice screen, and 4G capability, it's hard to find any reason not to buy this phone.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned anywhere (maybe it's fairly standard these days?): this phone has, or feels like it has, an LRA (linear resonant actuator) rather than your standard rotational vibrator. Haptic feedback feels excellent!
I'd strongly recommend this phone for anyone looking to buy or upgrade.
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I cannot recommend the maxx enough. I'll take a huge sealed battery over a small removable battery any day. GS3 is nice hardware but I just can't get over the cheap feel and bloated UI of Samsung phones. A Ferrari engine in a Hyundai is still a Hyundai. I wanted the Ferrari design as well.
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I replaced my S3 with the RAZR Max HD..better quality build including better radios
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Got my new Maxx HD. Love it! Activated!
I went and checked this out at Verizon today and was VERY surprised of how much I liked it!
The big knock for me was the 4.7 in screen making the phone way to big....My OG Razr Maxx w/ 4.3 in screen is about as big as I want to go...
However, when I compared it to my OG Razr....it was EXACTLY the same size and dimension....The difference was having LESS bezel and MORE screen! It's a good bit smaller the GS3
I did a quick speed test and got 24 MB/S vs 12 MB/s on my OG Razr.....I didnt think I would like the soft button interface but it actually was much different than expected and made navigating and using the phone MUCH easier....and ;ast but not least the whole interface with supper smooth!
Cant afford it atm....but jIm def getting one soon!!
Today I was offered an alternative replacement for my Samsung Galaxy S3 that I finally accepted, which ends up being the Razr HD. My S3 cannot make calls 50% of the time due to a NO SIM error message... and I really just wanted them to fix my phone, but after 1.5 months of making excuses why my phone doesn't work to friends, co-workers, bosses, it was time to move on. I do have a question for you all, does this device have NFC? The Motorola site does not list this as a feature of the phone, but other sites say it does. As a temp resolution Verizon sent me a Galaxy Nexus, which was nice of them. (although I have yet to see a real amazing upgrade over the touchwiz'd ICS on the S3) How are you guys enjoying the motoblur? Worth it to move to a new ROM, or stick with stock?
Thanks, in advance!
Hello! I'm a current galaxy nexus user and I feel like I need an upgrade, and the only two devices that come across my mind are the Nexus 4 and the One X+ (international version and unlocked). At first I was, actually I still am Nexus obsessed, so the Nexus 4 always was my first option. But with all this shipping and availability trouble that is going on at the moment, plus the glass of the back thing, I started wondering if it is really worthy.
So, I need some advices and stuff like that so I can decide.
Attention:
My decision will be made regardless the common things, like: lack of LTE in the Nexus 4, price, Sense UI (I'm gonna use cyanogenmod on both devices, even if I have to wait a bit for the official CM 10.1 for the OX+, consider it) and I know the One X+ will probably be left alone by HTC in one year or more, but this won't be a problem because I'll most probably get a new phone in one year (not trying to sound like a bad ass, lol)
Thanks in advance! Let me know what you all think.
Get a n4, the shipping will supposedly be worked out by mid feb
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Get a n4, the shipping will supposedly be worked out by mid feb
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Well, the shipping issue isn't the reason of my doubt, because I'll probably buy it on Amazon as I won't be able to buy it later. I need to make a decision by the first week of february.
Never had an HTC phone before.. So I wont tell you that it's a crappy phone. The nexus now is different story. This is my second nexus device :good: And once you get a nexus you enjoy android more.. Well it's untouched and yes updates are timely I'm sure you know that!! To get your hands on one of these unless your willing to buy somewhere else it's a hassle!! But once you have it you''ll love it.. Now the Glass you ask about.. To be honest once you have a case you should be fine.. Kinda of annoying to baby this phone without a case... Believe me it's a gem.. IMO! Sure there are things ppl will say is missing Whatever..
Me I love this phone I'm constantly flashing stuff so this device is perfect for me:good: As mentioned before never owned or use a HTC phone.. Be happy with your purchase....
You could buy the at&t one x (not the +) for cheap and unlock it. They are going for $200 to $250 on ebay right now. I had the at&t one x and the one x+ at the same time and the one x was faster at everything. I was disappointed with the one x+ when I compared the 2 phones side by side. I sold the one x+ and bought the nexus 4. I know you want unlocked but the dual core s4 processor in the one x is faster than the tegra 3 at everything but the quadrant benchmark, but we all know benchmarks mean nothing. The development for the at&t one x is really good at the moment, it already has cm10.1. Just a suggestion.
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N4 does not have USB OTG, HTC One X does I believe. I'd have gone with an int'l HOX, but I got an N4 before Google did the old switcharoo on us.
I had an AT&T HOX (sold it for N4 because it didn't support T-Mobile well), and it felt like a great sturdy device. I liked the poly-carbonate back. It stands up a lot better to drops. My vote goes to HOX.
Go for the One X+ the little RAM will be annoying though but if you can get over that it should offer a good experience, I have a AT&T One X and Nexus 4 and personally think N4 is better but 64GB internal, better front and rear cameras, I find the speaker and sound quality better on N4 and custom ROMS are way better on N4 than One X and I think the screens are equally good not to mention you can tweak colors on N4, but LTE seems to be an issue for you, so One X+
Let me also N4 is better looking design wise, both are in cases but the clean look is beautiful
Software software!!!!!
It really depends upon your priorities. I got the N4 because it does everything that I want and is $350 whereas my cousin, for example, got the One X+ because he needs 64MB storage for music.
If you can't wait a month, then One X+ is the only solution. If you can, then you have to decide whether no LTE and 16MB of storage is a dealbreaker; if not, then the N4 should be the choice. You should also be aware of that the One X+ apparently has horrible battery life.
Htc sucks.
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One x is soo slow compared to n4.
Don't rule out the droid dna and the experia z.
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Well, the shipping issue isn't the reason of my doubt, because I'll probably buy it on Amazon as I won't be able to buy it later. I need to make a decision by the first week of february.
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They're cheaper on eBay!
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You could buy the at&t one x (not the +) for cheap and unlock it. They are going for $200 to $250 on ebay right now. I had the at&t one x and the one x+ at the same time and the one x was faster at everything. I was disappointed with the one x+ when I compared the 2 phones side by side. I sold the one x+ and bought the nexus 4. I know you want unlocked but the dual core s4 processor in the one x is faster than the tegra 3 at everything but the quadrant benchmark, but we all know benchmarks mean nothing. The development for the at&t one x is really good at the moment, it already has cm10.1. Just a suggestion.
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Interesting! I was also looking at the three (One X+, Nexus 4, and One X). I settled on the One X. A lot of what I found indicated that the One X outperformed the X+. Development is also significantly better right now. I was turned away from the Nexus 4 by the reported issues. It must not be that bad; it's always sold out on Google Play lol.
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One x is soo slow compared to n4.
Don't rule out the droid dna and the experia z.
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Nexus 4 must be blazing then.
I own both, the n4 & one x (international version) & I gotta say the n4 is way better than my one x. My main problem with HTC devices is how they lock them down. No s-off, bootloader unlock only. Plus you gotta fastboot flash your boot.img with every rom upgrade. Look at what htc is doing right now, removing all sites that offer RUU downloads for developers to build new roms on. It looks like HTC doesn't want anyone developing on there devices. Plus they hold on to there kernel source for 90 days so forget about having the latest greatest roms & kernels avalible. N4 on the other hand is great. snappy as hell, constant development, & always the latest sources & binaries avalible for developers to build upon.
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I own both, the n4 & one x (international version) & I gotta say the n4 is way better than my one x. My main problem with HTC devices is how they lock them down. No s-off, bootloader unlock only. Plus you gotta fastboot flash your boot.img with every rom upgrade. Look at what htc is doing right now, removing all sites that offer RUU downloads for developers to build new roms on. It looks like HTC doesn't want anyone developing on there devices. Plus they hold on to there kernel source for 90 days so forget about having the latest greatest roms & kernels avalible. N4 on the other hand is great. snappy as hell, constant development, & always the latest sources & binaries avalible for developers to build upon.
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As far as flashing the boot.img, download Flash Image GUI from the Google play store. This app will flash the boot.img for you without having to use fastboot. I used it all the time when I had my one x and never had any problems.
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As far as flashing the boot.img, download Flash Image GUI from the Google play store. This app will flash the boot.img for you without having to use fastboot. I used it all the time when I had my one x and never had any problems.
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You probably had the AT&T variant. On the international HOX the boot partition can only be flashed through fastboot
N4, hands down. I've had a lot of devices and this(n4) is soooooo badass.
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Nexus 4 defo. If you can get your hands on one. Would love to see Google / LG's 'planning' on this!
HTC have only made 2 truly great phones: HD2 and Nexus One. I had the sensation.. blerg that was an experience then 12 other models of the same phone came out that same week, and then they did the same with the 'One' series and I just lost the will to live (a tad dramatic I admit over a phone) and got an S2 then the N4..
N4 all the way. Unless Google do actually screw us all and release KLP on a new device. which would make me ever so slightly cross. But it doesn't take much..
I was torn between the same two phones, went for the Nexus 4 and I'm really happy with it. First android phone, iphone user before that.
I'd recommend using Faux kernel and app - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008222 - you can edit the colour/gamma settings... my only issue with the phone is the default gamma isn't great, whites have a hint of yellow.
Had an international one X and it wasn't a good experience, if you want to keep sense then one x off course, but if you ever think that you might want vanilla android or more openness then the nexus. The one X unfortunately was the last straw for me, you get the sense from the forum that generally everyone was fed up. Look at any new leak for a HTC phone and there so much negativity, these aren't fanboys, these are people like me who bought desires or sensations and are witnessing htc continually turn there back on them.
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and why? I like the simple design, hopefully this 4.7" screen will be more readable than the htc one 4.7" screen. I'm thinking so? But if I get the device I'll be coming from an sgs4. Kinda tired of touchjizz and always had a softspot for motorola, and miss my nexus 4 experience minus the horrible battery life. I hope we can unlock the bootloader on this device with no issues :0
I'm using an SGS4 as well and have always loved Moto handsets. I'm sure the Moto X is going to be great. Nothing beats Moto radios...
The bootloader is supposed to be unlockable on the Google Store variant, which is what I'm gunning for...
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I'm using an SGS4 as well and have always loved Moto handsets. I'm sure the Moto X is going to be great. Nothing beats Moto radios...
The bootloader is supposed to be unlockable on the Google Store variant, which is what I'm gunning for...
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When is the google version coming out?
Would the google store variant be stripped of the moto x features? Sort of like the google sgs4 edition stripped of tw. IDK.
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When is the google version coming out?
Would the google store variant be stripped of the moto x features? Sort of like the google sgs4 edition stripped of tw. IDK.
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No. Google edition will be exactly the same moto x.
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No. Google edition will be exactly the same moto x.
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That would be great, the question is when? And why would they not release at the same time as carriers. I mean I'm guessing they dont want to interfere with carrier sales but that can also backfire as people can just wait for the google version? More choices for different types of users.
I'm sorta making a lateral move. I am going from the Galaxy Nexus to the to the Moto X. It isn't really a major spec bump if I remember all the specs correctly.
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I'm sorta making a lateral move. I am going from the Galaxy Nexus to the to the Moto X. It isn't really a major spec bump if I remember all the specs correctly.
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I may be doing the same - sort of. My nexus died so I'm using a Bionic right now. I want to see more user reviews of the X.
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i'm going from a GNex to the MotoX. so comparable that i hope my car-mount works for it
Currently have the SGS3. Not really wanting a new phone, but wife needs one and has an upgrade, so she's taking this and I get a new one!
I thought I would be a shoe in for the SGS4, but the X has really intrigued me. That and I just end up running CM 10.X on the galaxy, so why not start out with a stockish experience? I do enjoy ROMing and modding, so not sure how that will work out if I get it thru Verizon on contract. If unlocking the bootloader is definitely a no-go, then I could wait for developer edition. Not sure what I'll do.
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If unlocking the bootloader is definitely a no-go, then I could wait for developer edition. Not sure what I'll do.
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We never know if it's a sure thing or not. I think with there being so many variations with unlocked BL we have a better chance.
Who knows, maybe Dan R wants a big fat payday again for showing motorola up.
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I'm sorta making a lateral move. I am going from the Galaxy Nexus to the to the Moto X. It isn't really a major spec bump if I remember all the specs correctly.
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The x will be a lot faster and a considerable bump to your Galaxy Nexus.
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I will be switching from Google edition HTC One.. I will keep HTC one until the moto x gets 4.3.
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the way the software and hardware work together far surpasses any higher specd device on the market right now..
the reason the iphone is such a success (other than crazy marketing) even with its sub-par specs is because the hardware and software play nicely giving you a very smooth user experience.
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the way the software and hardware work together far surpasses any higher specd device on the market right now..
the reason the iphone is such a success (other than crazy marketing) even with its sub-par specs is because the hardware and software play nicely giving you a very smooth user experience.
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Very good point, hopefully its true on the Moto X.
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the way the software and hardware work together far surpasses any higher specd device on the market right now..
the reason the iphone is such a success (other than crazy marketing) even with its sub-par specs is because the hardware and software play nicely giving you a very smooth user experience.
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This is such an annoying thing to read over and over.
The iPhone STILL has a class leading GPU and a year ago it's processor was EXCELLENT. Apple doesn't skimp on specs. They use less ram sometimes, but that's about it.
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This is such an annoying thing to read over and over.
The iPhone STILL has a class leading GPU and a year ago it's processor was EXCELLENT. Apple doesn't skimp on specs. They use less ram sometimes, but that's about it.
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Its CPU is nothing to write home about. The dual core swift is about on par with the MSM8960 krait CPU. I doubt that the A7 CPU will surpass the SD800, but the OS is less demanding and the GPU will be awesome, although Samsung is starting to use imagination technologies GPUs again, which is good.
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Very good point, hopefully its true on the Moto X.
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Based on all the reviews I have read, there hasn't been anything you would normally do with a phone that the MotoX cannot do and is very responsive. That's all you really can ask for. The Adreno 320 GPU is the same as what's in the htc one and sgs4, so gaming isn't an issue either.
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Based on all the reviews I have read, there hasn't been anything you would normally do with a phone that the MotoX cannot do and is very responsive. That's all you really can ask for. The Adreno 320 GPU is the same as what's in the htc one and sgs4, so gaming isn't an issue either.
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As long as its staying as close to vanilla as possible sprinkled with a few moto x goodies, it should be smooth. I hardly game on my devices. I'm looking forward to this, not expecting to be wow'ed. I was going to wait for the nexus 5, but lg again? I'm not the biggest lg fan.
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I'm using an SGS4 as well and have always loved Moto handsets. I'm sure the Moto X is going to be great. Nothing beats Moto radios...
The bootloader is supposed to be unlockable on the Google Store variant, which is what I'm gunning for...
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My Verizon GS3 (Owned 2) wireless radio > RAZR Maxx + Razr HD. Better Wi-Fi range & connection as well.
To answer the thread, no. I will not be getting the Moto X. Development has always been weak for Motorola phones. I've owned 2 stated above. My wife use to own the Motorola Photon on Sprint. I know Motorola phones well enough lol. Not blaming developers. It's Motorola's security and locking everything down. Plus I don't like Motorola's camera quality for pictures and videos.
I'm now waiting to see what the next gen Nexus will bring. After owning a Nexus 7 (2013), I enjoy it too much I now want that experience on my phone also. Still love my S3 but when my contract is up, time to move on.
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My Verizon GS3 (Owned 2) wireless radio > RAZR Maxx + Razr HD. Better Wi-Fi range & connection as well.
To answer the thread, no. I will not be getting the Moto X. Development has always been weak for Motorola phones. I've owned 2 stated above. My wife use to own the Motorola Photon on Sprint. I know Motorola phones well enough lol. Not blaming developers. It's Motorola's security and locking everything down. Plus I don't like Motorola's camera quality for pictures and videos.
I'm now waiting to see what the next gen Nexus will bring. After owning a Nexus 7 (2013), I enjoy it too much I now want that experience on my phone also. Still love my S3 but when my contract is up, time to move on.
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Locked down? Not the google edition or dev edtion. Thats what I'm waiting for. Also from what I understand this motorola device will not be like any of its previous "droid" "razr" devices and amen for that.
Im considering the LG G2 or the Moto X kinda dont know which to chose...Have anyone had a chance or experience with the Moto X, that could chime in on what they thought as to which was better in their opinion?
G2 that is all.
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G2 that is all.
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No reason as to why?
Better is in the eye of the beholder. I think that they are both great phones that cater to different audiences. It really depends on your preference.
For me, the G2 was a no-brainer, as I prefer a larger (>5") screen as well as long battery life. There are a lot of people that want a smaller screen, and the X might be a great choice for them. Having said that, if you want a larger screen or screen size isn't a factor for you, I'd go with the G2.
Never had a LG phone.. I'm wondering how the reception stack up to motorola...I had a SG3 and it sucked really bad...Also, is the LG pure AOSP or close to it?
I was in the same boat. The deciding factor for me came down to price. Both phones are 600.00, and if I'm going to pay a premium price for a phone, I want premium components. The Screen, Battery, CPU, and the Camera are premium on the G2, they aren't on the Moto X. So my money went to the G2. I do think the Moto X is a fine phone, but it's not a 600.00 phone, IMO.
I've had a chance to use both the X and G2, hands down G2, same size as the S4 with a bigger screen, better cpu, screen, and just as good battery life.
I was really contemplating getting a g2... Then I had to do a reality check. After the huge disappointment of the g2x,I just don't think I can stomach another lg phone. The g2x could have been great but lg seemed to just turn their back on it. The g2 looks awesome but I'd hate to blow that much money again. Same reason I haven't bought a new nexus.
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Ignoring specs, the Moto X is more practical. The size and shape feel great, and it looks much better, is better built, and can be customized. The price seems kind of high now, but you know its gonna drop like a rock since it doesn't have the highest specs to begin with. The LG G2 is still gonna maintain its price for a while. Then again, the Nexus 5 is gonna come out soon. I would choose that over these for the best bang for your buck.
Coming from a Gnex and I am facing the same question. The chance of Verizon getting the new nexus are well probably zero so I went and picked up the X the other day with the intention of possibly swapping it out for the G2 within 2 weeks. I like the X and still need to go okay with a G2 this weekend but if the G2 is as nice as people are saying it is I will probably end up dealing it out.
The X just feels small to me, I keep saying to myself it's the same size as the Gnex but it still just feels small.
In the end for me its about the screen, both phones will eventually get rooted and the awesome developers will produce custom builds for both so......
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Coming from a Gnex and I am facing the same question. The chance of Verizon getting the new nexus are well probably zero so I went and picked up the X the other day with the intention of possibly swapping it out for the G2 within 2 weeks. I like the X and still need to go okay with a G2 this weekend but if the G2 is as nice as people are saying it is I will probably end up dealing it out.
The X just feels small to me, I keep saying to myself it's the same size as the Gnex but it still just feels small.
In the end for me its about the screen, both phones will eventually get rooted and the awesome developers will produce custom builds for both so......
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My ATT G2 is already rooted and sim unlocked =]
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zac413 said:
Coming from a Gnex and I am facing the same question. The chance of Verizon getting the new nexus are well probably zero so I went and picked up the X the other day with the intention of possibly swapping it out for the G2 within 2 weeks. I like the X and still need to go okay with a G2 this weekend but if the G2 is as nice as people are saying it is I will probably end up dealing it out.
The X just feels small to me, I keep saying to myself it's the same size as the Gnex but it still just feels small.
In the end for me its about the screen, both phones will eventually get rooted and the awesome developers will produce custom builds for both so......
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Base on this rumor the Nexus 5 could support a bunch of LTE bands and possibly Verizon, even though the found out the LG D821 is a Verizon G2, it doesn't explain the D820 with a smaller 4.96" screen so it could still be the Nexus, regardless it will be made by LG.
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I'm in the same boat. Coming from an LG Optimus G (which I loved for the most part), I am due an upgrade. I purchased a black Moto X on launch day, but will be exchanging it for a G2 when they hit stores Friday, and I'll cite a few reasons why...
1. It blows that neither phone has expandable storage, but for $199 the G2 gives you 32GB whereas the MotoX gives you 16 (unless you spend $50 more)
2. The screen on the Moto X looks great... Until you put it next to an HTC One. Comparison is the thief of joy I guess
3. The Moto X doesn't lag at all, but given AT&T's move to a 24 month upgrade cycle, I do have some concerns about just how "future proof" it's hardware will be.
I do love the Moto X. It looks and feels great, and I am definitely going to miss active notifications. However, I just think the G2 gives me more of what I want/need for my money.
I was thinking of the MotoX for my wife and the G2 for me. But at the price point the MotoX is at Id rather just buy her a G2 like Im getting or even a Galaxy S4 (since she doesnt really need a stock Android experience).
If the Moto were cheaper or had replaceable battery/sd slot then maybe, but 199 for "meh" worth of phone isnt that great, especially with the brand new G2 at the same price and the S4 way cheaper.
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Never had a LG phone.. I'm wondering how the reception stack up to motorola...I had a SG3 and it sucked really bad...Also, is the LG pure AOSP or close to it?
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You can read any G2 review or watch a Youtube video review/comparison and that should give you a better idea. But in short, NO it is not close to AOSP. A simple root/de-bloat will go a long way for this phone. I have the N4 now and the reception is fine, but I'm sure the radios are different.
G2. No OIS on MotoX
I have a Maxx same as the moto x in terms of user experience and love it I was contemplating taking it back (getting G2) because today is day 14 for me to return the Maxx. Guess what? I'm keeping the maxx the battery is killer the os is so simple and fluid I can not... let me repeat I CAN NOT get this UI to lag skip glitch etc. It is amazing the real deciding factor is root Jcase just got root for the motox and an exploit should arrive in a timely manner. Think the LG G2 will get root? I don't know, what I do know is my Maxx will.
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I have a Maxx same as the moto x in terms of user experience and love it I was contemplating taking it back (getting G2) because today is day 14 for me to return the Maxx. Guess what? I'm keeping the maxx the battery is killer the os is so simple and fluid I can not... let me repeat I CAN NOT get this UI to lag skip glitch etc. It is amazing the real deciding factor is root Jcase just got root for the motox and an exploit should arrive in a timely manner. Think the LG G2 will get root? I don't know, what I do know is my Maxx will.
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The Maxx is also 100 more even on contract. Id like a comparison of the Ultra vs the LG first.
And, even Touchwiz is fairly fluid nowadays....the CPUs on these things are going to make anything feel fast.
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I have a Maxx same as the moto x in terms of user experience and love it I was contemplating taking it back (getting G2) because today is day 14 for me to return the Maxx. Guess what? I'm keeping the maxx the battery is killer the os is so simple and fluid I can not... let me repeat I CAN NOT get this UI to lag skip glitch etc. It is amazing the real deciding factor is root Jcase just got root for the motox and an exploit should arrive in a timely manner. Think the LG G2 will get root? I don't know, what I do know is my Maxx will.
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G2 already has root. Just need unlocked bootloader and all hell will break loose in the development department.
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G2 already has root. Just need unlocked bootloader and all hell will break loose in the development department.
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I'm on verizon so it won't be unlocked that is for sure.
as the title says! who's upgrading from oneplus one to oneplus two like me ?
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I don`t see why,our phone is great and there is not much added to opo 2, the powerful processors that noboby needs,our 2.5 doing well till now,4gb ram? who needs this huge ram?? 3 is more than enough for now
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I don`t see why,our phone is great and there is not much added to opo 2, the powerful processors that noboby needs,our 2.5 doing well till now,4gb ram? who needs this huge ram?? 3 is more than enough for now
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Totally agree I think the One still has good specs which will last me a good while. Plus as the one has been out for 15 months there will be more mod support for it. Only thing I would like is OIS and laser auto but for my usage its a niggle rather than a problem. Looking forward to COS12.1 and Oxygen v2 though. Probably will flash Cyanogenmod later down the line though.
The Moto X Style looks like it might be a better phone than the Oneplus 2 to me, but neither are a big enough leap to have me pining for a new phone. I'll be sticking with the OPO for at least another year, and I can even envision stretching it into 2017 unless there's a really compelling leap in tech. To me we're at the point where these incremental updates really aren't doing much.
If they buy back my OPO, then I can move to OP2.
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The Moto X Style looks like it might be a better phone than the Oneplus 2 to me, but neither are a big enough leap to have me pining for a new phone. I'll be sticking with the OPO for at least another year, and I can even envision stretching it into 2017 unless there's a really compelling leap in tech. To me we're at the point where these incremental updates really aren't doing much.
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Me too, I've seen moto x style better option than opo2, still I will stay with opo
This comparative Is nice
http://www.phonearena.com/news/10-r...-is-a-better-phone-than-the-OnePlus-2_id72086
Negative captain, staying on one plus one
Not much of a price difference and I have a stupid obsession of buying things I don't need, I'll sell my opo unscratched un dropped for as much as I can and hope for the best. I have issues...
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The missing NFC is a big factor in my decision.... so NO ...staying put with the oneplusone
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Im not!No Cyanogen No Love...No NFC, Ugly design...
I RSVP'd attendance to the event here in Paris.. My wife said I could buy it if I like it, but really, even after getting to see it in person tomorrow I doubt I get it.. It falls short so far to me, plus I rather like this community.. Who knows how long I'll wait to flash anything custom..
I'll report back after caressing the screen of the 2..
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Unless there's huge hardware improvements that rumors haven't been release I will stay with my OPO
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I am if i get an invite before i'm 75 years old... New toys, got to have NEW TOYS !
Nopes! There's no point at all to upgrade to OP2 from OPO considering it's just a refreshed version, nothing major is introduced. Instead, they stripped down some features. OPO is still performing amazingly well and the dev support is just awesome.
i will and of course i'll keep my ONE as well while the nexus 5 goes to my grand son. easy as that.
I unlock my Lastpass using NFC so I will definitely not buy it UNLESS I Lastpass will work with the fingerprint scanner of the OP2.
If the new nexus disappoints or is too high a price for the hardware then I might as well.
NFC I never use and I charge my phone overnight anyway. I'll be giving my one to my dad if that happens
Edit: you know what probably not since its heavier and thicker. I really don't like that aspect mostly the thicker part. Since there some metal I expect it heavier anyway
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i will and of course i'll keep my ONE as well while the nexus 5 goes to my grand son. easy as that.
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You can get the Moto X Style it's a much better phone than the Oneplus Two
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no way!! I'm not jumping through the hoop again for an invite. I'm settled now and their customer services suks. Maybe op3 or op4 when I can buy instantly.
No way lol. I'm getting one of the new Nexus phones most probably. Then jump to the OP3.