1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe)
• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it.
• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered.
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good.
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds.
• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad.
• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively.
• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build.
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy.
• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color.
• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application.
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted.
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way.
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase
• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off.
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently..
• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind.
• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain.
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords.
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical.
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything!
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series..
b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram
• Multitasking gestures
• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey,
• Dropbox would be nice addition
• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized
• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics.
• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile.
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be.
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu.
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
m_carleone82 said:
1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe)
• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it.
• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered.
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good.
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds.
• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad.
• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively.
• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build.
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy.
• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color.
• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application.
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted.
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way.
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase
• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off.
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently..
• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind.
• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain.
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords.
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical.
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything!
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series..
b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram
• Multitasking gestures
• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey,
• Dropbox would be nice addition
• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized
• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics.
• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile.
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be.
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu.
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
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Wow... very stright forward. I hope Microsoft will read your suggestion and build an update as soon as possible
My two cents:
Very detailed, however, have to reply to some of these.
1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe) - I always wondered what this was for. It never mattered to me how long I spoe with someone, I am not paying by the minute. The fact that its not here is a bonus for me.
• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it. - Again, whats the big deal?! It was nice on my android phone, but I really dont miss it. The live tiles take care of all my notification issues.
• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered. - Isn't it?! Just press the letter, and you get a list of the letter, tap it and it takes you there. Very fast in my book!
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good. - I use skydrive for my photos, and its easy to set up custom folders. Security key should be your phones security password.
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds. - No, if you set your phones settings once to include vibration, just tap your volume once, the toast notificaiton will pop up, press where it says "vibrate & ring", it will switch to "vibrate". Thats what I do. One volume rock and one tap, I am silent.
• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad. - Again, prefrence. Don't really use google apps that much, so not missing them.
• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively. - yea, thats one thing I wouldn't mind seeing.
• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build. - Haven't tried using GPS when in airplane mode. NEver switch my phone to Airplane mode.
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy. - You shouldb e able to set that when you initially start or download the app, it asks if they can use your location. Otherwise, I don't have any problem with it, got nothing to hide, so you can see where I go anytime!
• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color. - Yea, I guess, don't really notice that.
• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application. - Haven't used Skype yet, maybe one day.
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted. -Dont have that app.
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way. - Yea, that could be alot easier to handle.
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase -Again, don't really notice that. I don't let my emails pile up to the point I need to select all to get rid of them. Once I read, they are filed or deleted. No need to leave them there taking up space.
• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.-Not using Nokia, so not sure about this one.
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off. - I don't think this is a possibility with any system, phone, or OS. Once the phone is off, its off. Now, if your turning your phone to sleep, or hibernate, then it should still work. Otherwise, powered off is powered off. Thats like wanting your car off, but as soon as you get in and hit the gas it magically comes to life and starts driving.
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently.. - Uhmm, I hate having to shake my phone to make it do anything. If I have to shake it, then something is wrong with it. Just my opinion.
• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind. - Yea, that would be nice, but I don't miss it.
• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain. - Again, knowing what is sucking up your battery is a nice touch, and although I thought it was usefull when I had an android, I don't miss it. My 8X doesnt suck up enough battery power to be a concern.
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords. - That would be nice!
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.- I am able to watch, listen to, whatever with all my local downloaded music and movies. No need for a 3rd party app.
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical. - This would be a nice touch, but not one I feel is a mandatory missing item. I can live without it.
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything! - You would have to talk to the app creater, thats not something controled by Windows. And I find no matter what I am doing, hitting the back button once, away goes keyboard. Every app lets me do that.
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps - Yes, local search would be nice, not just web
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series.. - I only rebooted the day I purchased it, otherwise, no issues there!
b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram - Dont use it
• Multitasking gestures - Good lord, don't need it! Simple is the way!
• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey, - Sorry
• Dropbox would be nice addition - Again, don't use it
• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized - Yea, that would be nice
• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics. - Uhmm, don't know about this one
• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile. - Thats why I like HTC!
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be. - Again, talk to the app creator, not windows.
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu. - Yea, thats true!
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl - Unfortunatly, all my pics are decent and safe for work
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
So thats my two cents!
If the keyboard is displayed simply press the back Button and it will be hidden. Works in any App.
As for the Live Tiles changing Color automatically with changes of the theme color. It is possible to be done with transparent Images but due to the problematic nature of saving those dynamically in WP7 most Devs render an Image with the current Background Color and Display that on the tile. If you want that bevhavior to change contact the developer.
The Alarm doesn't work when the device is turned off on Android or iOS as well. Symbian was the only notable exception of a Smartphone OS that did Support it. As for a wrong auto-completed word: simply tap the word and select your original Input or another Suggestion. Works for me without Problems.
If you enter Settings and look at phone Memory and then tap onto the bar that Displays how much free space you currently have it opens up a detailed view on what is taking how much Memory. At least it does on my Lumia 920.
As for the Button "Show Wifi Password" - it works similarily to the Show Password Buttons in Windows 8. They exist to allow you to have a look at the Password that you just entered/are just entering to check it for typing errors. It does work then. After you saved the Password you won't be able to retrieve it in this way for security reasons. The Buttons are not broken but work as designed.
I won't answer all the other Points. I agree with some but disagree with others but I wanted to provide some help and some context on what can be done and why some things behave the way they do.
jerrya said:
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe) - I always wondered what this was for. It never mattered to me how long I spoe with someone, I am not paying by the minute. The fact that its not here is a bonus for me.
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I would like to have this option. Sometimes when I'm on a business call I need to know how long I was on the call for. You can say to use a timer or check the time before and after the call but that's extra work that the phone should be able to handle. There's enough other things to juggle during a busy day! Right now I just have to go online and check my account after 24 hours to record my time.
jerrya said:
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good. - I use skydrive for my photos, and its easy to set up custom folders. Security key should be your phones security password.
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Great idea, but it would be nice to create folders on the phone instead of finding someplace else - computer, web browser, etc. All photo folder customization needs to be done outside of the app. It would be nice to set a default folder when taking pictures or saving pictures. Everything just goes into Saved Pictures or Camera Roll and then has to be organized later.
jerrya said:
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds. - No, if you set your phones settings once to include vibration, just tap your volume once, the toast notificaiton will pop up, press where it says "vibrate & ring", it will switch to "vibrate". Thats what I do. One volume rock and one tap, I am silent.
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His point here is turning off vibrate, not turning off sound. Most of the time I like having vibrate on but during a meeting, not only do I want the phone silent, but I also want vibrate off. No way to do this unless you manually go into settings.
jerrya said:
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy. - You shouldb e able to set that when you initially start or download the app, it asks if they can use your location. Otherwise, I don't have any problem with it, got nothing to hide, so you can see where I go anytime!
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Yes, the first time you use an app it asked you about location. How do you turn off (or on?) that permission after the fact, or see what applications you gave location permissions to? You have to uninstall and reinstall the app to cycle the location permission. Furthermore, reinstalling the app typically loses any data you have. This isn't quite the experience that you should expect. Windows 8 allows you to toggle permissions of Metro apps from the charms bar. No such ability exists in WP8.
jerrya said:
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently.. - Uhmm, I hate having to shake my phone to make it do anything. If I have to shake it, then something is wrong with it. Just my opinion.
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I agree on the shaking thing, but it would be nice to have some sort of undo. Occassionally I accidentally hit the wrong word or highlight a word (or sentence) and hit a letter instead of the copy. Suddenly, everything I typed is gone! Even a single-level undo would be nice in cases like this.
jerrya said:
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.- I am able to watch, listen to, whatever with all my local downloaded music and movies. No need for a 3rd party app.
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Nokia Music is allowed to store items in the WP8 music store, but other 3rd party apps aren't. This is an inconsistency that really needs to be fixed. While you may not use 3rd party apps, there are a lot of nice ones out there and having to figure out workarounds to move the music around is a bit annoying. Personally I haven't had a need to worry about it but locking up the music storage is limiting our choices on what we can do with our own music files.
jerrya said:
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical. - This would be a nice touch, but not one I feel is a mandatory missing item. I can live without it.
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(laugh) I have to agree on needing this one! I frequently try to use my phone lying on my side and it's so obnoxious with the rotation. Would definitely be a nice option!
jerrya said:
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series.. - I only rebooted the day I purchased it, otherwise, no issues there!
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I see rebooting within 3rd party apps more often now that developers aren't required to use managed code. This is one of the drawbacks of native code. I think the OS should be more capable of protecting against that though. An app really shouldn't kill the OS so easily just because the app is buggy.
On that same note, sometimes when a app crashes you can't open it again unless you restart the OS. This leads me to believe that something is still retained in OS memory. WP8 is essentially like a 1.0 version of the OS though, so there are sure to be issues like this initially. Even though the kernel is the NT kernel, it's new for ARM processors, so it's still a brand new branch of the kernel.
jerrya said:
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl - Unfortunatly, all my pics are decent and safe for work
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He's talking about the people hub, not the photo hub. If you have your phone connected to Facebook or LinkedIn, the People hub automatically pulls the profile pictures for your contacts. You can argue that you only have contacts on your phone for people that will always have decent, acceptable profile pictures, but can you be 100% sure that will happen? Your choices right now are all or none. You can manually set a profile picture for every contact but that kind of defeats the neatness of the People hub cycling people. It would be nice if you could create a "Favorite People" group of people that you want the hub to show, as well as an "Excluded" group of people that include your pain in the neck brother that's always posting weird profile pics! Similar to the "Favorite Pics" in the photo hub.
Many of these items are similar choice things that would make the overall system better. While I don't agree with having the boatload of customization that Android has (way too messy), I think some simple additions would be nice.
On the subject of lock codes... I understand that some people would want additional security for photos or messages and things like that, but I think having separate codes for all of that is too much. If you need to be that secret, just lock your phone and don't let anyone use it!
I like the idea of the kid's corner and would like MS to expand on that to allow you to create a sandbox that would allow someone to use your phone, play games, make phone calls, without having your security code. Right now, if you have a security code, the kid's corner also has the same security code. Kids are smart! If you're unlocking your phone in front of them, they WILL notice your code eventually. Even the Android "move your finger around" security is a joke. It's fairly easy to watch someone (with the phone turned away from you) and pretty much tell by movement of their hand.
We've all learned workarounds for some of the items on this list and can say that we don't really care, but the truth is, if we have to constantly come up with workarounds, then the OS is missing something. Call Duration, Better Live Tile customization (such as the People Hub idea), better/easier sound/ring customization, etc.
Also, on the Live tiles. I think the medium tile is too big and the small tile isn't big enough for any detail. Coming from WP7, I'm so glad we don't have to have all "medium tiles" now, especially with a large (4.3+) screen. I just don't know how best to deal with this without making it too complicated.
bozzaj said:
I would like to have this option. Sometimes when I'm on a business call I need to know how long I was on the call for. You can say to use a timer or check the time before and after the call but that's extra work that the phone should be able to handle. There's enough other things to juggle during a busy day! Right now I just have to go online and check my account after 24 hours to record my time.
ACtually, I found that it does time the call, when I just hung up with my wife, it showed call duration just above her name, so I would say it does it. that being said, it doesn't 'record' it for later retrieval, so I see the point your making.
His point here is turning off vibrate, not turning off sound. Most of the time I like having vibrate on but during a meeting, not only do I want the phone silent, but I also want vibrate off. No way to do this unless you manually go into settings.
Gotcha, but if you don't use sound, strictly vibrate, then instead of turning on sound and vibrate in the settings once, you would only turn on vibrate. Then, you could either silence or vibrate when you select the toast. Of course, if you want sound and vibrate, yes, you would have to go into settings.
Yes, the first time you use an app it asked you about location. How do you turn off (or on?) that permission after the fact, or see what applications you gave location permissions to? You have to uninstall and reinstall the app to cycle the location permission. Furthermore, reinstalling the app typically loses any data you have. This isn't quite the experience that you should expect. Windows 8 allows you to toggle permissions of Metro apps from the charms bar. No such ability exists in WP8.
I am not sure about that. I just checked 3 apps and could turn off location services. So maybe its app based on wether you can or cannot undo location services.
I agree on the shaking thing, but it would be nice to have some sort of undo. Occassionally I accidentally hit the wrong word or highlight a word (or sentence) and hit a letter instead of the copy. Suddenly, everything I typed is gone! Even a single-level undo would be nice in cases like this.
I guess I am lucky, haven't seen the need for that.
Many of these items are similar choice things that would make the overall system better. While I don't agree with having the boatload of customization that Android has (way too messy), I think some simple additions would be nice.
On the subject of lock codes... I understand that some people would want additional security for photos or messages and things like that, but I think having separate codes for all of that is too much. If you need to be that secret, just lock your phone and don't let anyone use it!
I like the idea of the kid's corner and would like MS to expand on that to allow you to create a sandbox that would allow someone to use your phone, play games, make phone calls, without having your security code. Right now, if you have a security code, the kid's corner also has the same security code. Kids are smart! If you're unlocking your phone in front of them, they WILL notice your code eventually. Even the Android "move your finger around" security is a joke. It's fairly easy to watch someone (with the phone turned away from you) and pretty much tell by movement of their hand.
I agree, I remember my daughter on her kindle was surprised I could access it. She was surprised how easy it was to monitor her swipe to get an idea of her access. What I don't like about kids corner is the turn off to access your stuff. Should have the same ability to swipe back to the lock screen
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See my responses in bold.
But I do have to say coming from a flashaholic Thunderbolt, the fact that I 'can't do as much' is a breath of fresh air. It is just nice having a simple, easy uncluttered OS to deal with. I had a friend running an TB unrooted, and he went with an S3 about the same time I went to WP8, and watching him use his, I really cringe looking at his screen. I look at mine and think - Ah, simpleton, thats me! And I am happy! Its all right here, no need to open this or click that to get to there. Just turn on, unlock, and blip, there it is.
You are correct that in a sense, this is WP8 V1, and I am sure as it gets more and more active, we will begin to see some of those simple things come into play.
My only real gripe, how difficult it is to make a playlist. But at least what I do have sounds fantastic!
My name is Jerry, and this is my Windows phone!
jerrya said:
See my responses in bold.
But I do have to say coming from a flashaholic Thunderbolt, the fact that I 'can't do as much' is a breath of fresh air. It is just nice having a simple, easy uncluttered OS to deal with. I had a friend running an TB unrooted, and he went with an S3 about the same time I went to WP8, and watching him use his, I really cringe looking at his screen. I look at mine and think - Ah, simpleton, thats me! And I am happy! Its all right here, no need to open this or click that to get to there. Just turn on, unlock, and blip, there it is.
You are correct that in a sense, this is WP8 V1, and I am sure as it gets more and more active, we will begin to see some of those simple things come into play.
My only real gripe, how difficult it is to make a playlist. But at least what I do have sounds fantastic!
My name is Jerry, and this is my Windows phone!
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Just a few more comments... I think the location service you can't change are the ones that use it only for ads. I've checked a few and don't see anywhere to toggle it. I don't mind ads but I'm not a big fan of targeted ads. Much like ad cookies, it's just really a personal preference.
Thanks for the tip on the call duration.
I agree with you as well! Having a phone that just *works* and is simple to use has been great! I wouldn't trade it for any OS right now. I look forward to next week and MWC to see what the next updates/phones might be!
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1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe)
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Yeah, would love that too!
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• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it.
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They say it's coming. We'll see
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• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered.
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Press the alphabet. Addressed by jerrya
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• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good.
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I think the current way is good. Addressed by jerrya
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• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds.
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Yeah. Definitely a shortcoming.
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• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad.
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Whose fault is that?
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• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively.
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Uhm, yes it does?
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build.
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Uhm, again, GPS works in airplane mode.
m_carleone82 said:
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy.
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Whenever you launch an app, the app will require permission for location use. It's one of the requirement for submission into the marketplace I believe.
m_carleone82 said:
• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color.
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Uhm, its due to the way the API is implemented. And why would you want apps running in the background just to update the accent colour?
m_carleone82 said:
• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application.
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It works for me.
m_carleone82 said:
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted.
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Whatsapp background notification works for me, with my phone locked or not. And the devs are lazy. I heard they are working for a optimised WP8 version with Nokia.
m_carleone82 said:
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way.
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Double tap back to close, I believe.
m_carleone82 said:
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase
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3 dots -> delete thread.
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• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.
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@winphonesupport <-- Tweet them.
m_carleone82 said:
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off.
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Not really possible with current gen smartphones.
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• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently..
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No thanks. Also, to correct words, just press on them.
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• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind.
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Again, it does.
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• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain.
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Yeah, would love that also.
m_carleone82 said:
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords.
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Security. Show password only shows password you typed that instant, not stored ones.
m_carleone82 said:
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.
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Eh?
m_carleone82 said:
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical.
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Yeah, should be implemented.
m_carleone82 said:
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything!
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Damn right. However, these settings are configured on an application level. For example, while typing an URL, autocorrect would be useless.
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• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps
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Uh huh. You do realise this is a MSFT product? It's like asking Android to provide bing search. Phone search would be nice though.
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• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series..
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Never happened to me before.
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b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram
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Again, whose fault is that?
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• Multitasking gestures
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Would be nice
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• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey,
• Dropbox would be nice addition
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Whose fault is that? . . .
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• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized
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Turn it off?
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• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics.
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Whose fault is that?
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• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile.
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Get a HTC phone if you really want that. Or enjoy your Nokia exclusives. Damn, I really want them.
m_carleone82 said:
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be.
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Ask developers to implement that. API available.
m_carleone82 said:
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu.
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More fine tuning would be good. And hard to reach? Seriously. . .
m_carleone82 said:
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl
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Ok... You can remove profile pics.
m_carleone82 said:
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
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Bug MSFT I guess
Windows Phone 8 was blessed as a Business OS. But thats not true!
There are missing still some important features like:
- Better calender view (weekly view)
- VPN
- signing e-mails ( S/MIME)
-encypt and decrypt mails
We are currentyl using WP7/WP8 (Lumia 900/Lumia 820) and Blackberry Devices in our Company. Since signing E-Mail is a must have in our Company we are not able to read our mail or attachemnts on our WP Devices.
With every other devices like Android, Iphone and Blackkberry is this possible but not with a Windows Phone 7/8. 2 year before i had talked to MS about this problem (good relationship in Austria) but there is still no solution for this.
I´m so sorry for this but we have now to Switch back to Blackberrys and Android Phones... :crying:
We are now waiting for the new BB Generation. In the next weeks i will upgrade our BES to BES 10
Hopefully MS will release this functionalities with the next update...
Privately i will stay with Windows Phone...
its missing an Office Suite with any functionality at all
How is Microsoft not going to have an Office suite, when both Android & iPhone have Office suites which rival the Full Office suite, both creating & editing MICROSOFT PPT, PPTX, DOC, DOCX, XLS, & XLSX, with more functions than you can imagine ...
microcrap includes a blank office page with 2 retarded options and no other functionality at all
can someone please shoot those people so they can rehire smarter employees?
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i need separate volume for ringtone / media / etc . (like android)
Things that WP 8 needs from my point of view as a user (seperate from IT policies that can be implimented). I have a Nokia 810 btw...
1. Alphanumeric password support. That 4 digit pin crap has GOT TO GO.
2. Full device encryption ahh the good old days of WM 6.5.X
3. Device search
4. A DEDICATED PHONEBOOK. I do not want all of my facebook, skype, etc contacts listed in with my phone book. That just plain sucks. To avoid this I use the seperate FB and Skype and TANGO (when available) apps.
5. ability to choose background colors other than black or white in addition to more foreground color choices
6. Can we please crank up the volume of the handset? how I miss my HD2 and it's annoyingly loud alarm clock...
7. Task Manager anyone? Pressing back all the time is kind of stupid...
Lilttle things I would like Nokia to include:
1. Compass
2. Flashlight
3. Ability to connect to my phone at Wireless N speeds with my PC (G? really? in 2K13? come on now...LTE will be able to completely saturate that interface)
1. VPN
2. Task Manager
3. App to SD (For any device SDCard Support)
4. Read first post...
Sent from my Windows Phone 8S by HTC using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
I was going to buy a Wp8 Device but i just read this thread and i say to my self. what the hell is going on .
anhyeuemmaimai said:
Things that WP 8 needs from my point of view as a user (seperate from IT policies that can be implimented). I have a Nokia 810 btw...
1. Alphanumeric password support. That 4 digit pin crap has GOT TO GO.
2. Full device encryption ahh the good old days of WM 6.5.X
3. Device search
4. A DEDICATED PHONEBOOK. I do not want all of my facebook, skype, etc contacts listed in with my phone book. That just plain sucks. To avoid this I use the seperate FB and Skype and TANGO (when available) apps.
5. ability to choose background colors other than black or white in addition to more foreground color choices
6. Can we please crank up the volume of the handset? how I miss my HD2 and it's annoyingly loud alarm clock...
7. Task Manager anyone? Pressing back all the time is kind of stupid...
Lilttle things I would like Nokia to include:
1. Compass
2. Flashlight
3. Ability to connect to my phone at Wireless N speeds with my PC (G? really? in 2K13? come on now...LTE will be able to completely saturate that interface)
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Aside from colors and task manager(which is not needed anyway), you need a heavy dose of "learn to use a windows phone" my friend.
In fact, over half of the things "missing" are present and accounted for, you just need to look closer.
So, instead of QQing, how about you look in the phone settings, or...you know...USE the marketplace?
app2sd
some customization options
more popular apps (for services like catch notes, which i missing so much on wp8)/or more indie games from iphone/android devs ;/
normal SKYPE.. oh microsoft
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4. A DEDICATED PHONEBOOK. I do not want all of my facebook, skype, etc contacts listed in with my phone book. That just plain sucks. To avoid this I use the seperate FB and Skype and TANGO (when available) apps.
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Doesn't this work on your phone?
Settings, Applications, people, filter my contact list
And then uncheck everything except your primary contact list?
I find the biggest issue for me as a windows phone user [from the HD7 to the 810] is the still remarkably poor offerings. So apps aren't even present like Hulu, some are covered by third party providers [youtube - metrotube] and there is a good selection of games. The app market is the single biggest handy cap that the OS has atm and that's needs to be fixed.
Apps I use;
Battery Meter Pro [Provides a live tile with icon and % of battery]
Metrotube [an actual youtube client not a browser shortcut]
Amazing Weather HD [provides a live tile with updated weather]
Facebook for WP8 [more common android looking facebook app]
MediaFire Manager [file storage]
Skydrive [MS provided - there are dropbox apps too I just don't use it]
PinInterest [an actual client for viewing PinInterest]
PAypal
Ebay
Skype [VoIP]
Snes8x [The only emulator atm]
tumblr.viewer [an actual client to view your tumblr account - no downloads though]
Weave News Reader [like androids pulse news reader]
WiFi Live Tile [provides a live tile with information on wifi strength and goes straight to settings]
Tankopedia [World of Tanks information - wiki as a client]
World of Tanks Assistant
WoW Companion [MoP Compatiable WoW Armory app]
Touchmouse [makes the phone a mouse for computers]
Flashlight [Pro version, gives a live tile to quickly turn the flash on]
Crackle [like hulu, not so much selection though]
BBC News
Cellular Live Tiles [gives signal strength, Data info and goes directly to settings when clicked]
Netflix
The three apps I am missing atm is Hulu, a stand alone movie player and Teamspeak.
Battery lasts most of my days use, with an occasional charging here and there. The rest of the settings are easy enough to get too, the letter management in the app list makes it very quick to get to apps you want [just got to get used to it] and very seldom see a reboot [about as often as my Samsung S3 does actually.