[Anandtech]Nexus 7(2013)Review - Nexus 7 (2013) General

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This is the full review, complementing their min-review posted in July.
The original Nexus 7 gave us a decent Android experience at a very low cost. This year ASUS and Google raised the bar for sure. The new Nexus 7 is no longer just a decent tablet at a good price, it's an incredible tablet. With this Nexus, it's clear that Google no longer wants to rely on value alone. The 2013 Nexus 7 redefines what you should expect to pay for a truly great tablet. If you're in the market for an ultra portable tablet, and definitely if you're shopping for an Android tablet in particular, the new Nexus 7 should be at the top of your list. It's so good that I'm giving it our Silver Award.
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Here is a key point in Nexus 7 2013 battery life testing:
N7 2013's max brightness is significantly brighter than any other tablet's max in the market, over 86% brighter than N7 2012, 54% brighter than Ipad mini, 43% brighter than Ipad 4. If you run all of them at max brightness then N7 will have less battery life. But if you run all of them at the same brightness such as 200nits, here is the result.
We'll start out with our WiFi web browsing test. Like all of our battery life benchmarks we run this test with all devices calibrated to 200 nits and connected to 5GHz 802.11 WiFi (if supported). The test itself cycles through a bunch of desktop websites at a very aggressive frequency. Our test ensures that both the CPU cores and wireless stack can reach their deep sleep states during simulated reading periods. The test continues until the battery is depleted.
Our video playback test involves looping the playback of a 4Mbps 720p High Profile H.264 transcode of the last Harry Potter Blu-ray. All displays are calibrated to 200 nits.
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See attached thumbnails for the brightness & battery test graph, more information at the source.

I usually give more weight to Anand's benchmarks that others. However, I'm very skeptical of those battery stats. The discrepancy in web browsing hours is huge compared to every other review.

noxxle said:
I usually give more weight to Anand's benchmarks that others. However, I'm very skeptical of those battery stats. The discrepancy in web browsing hours is huge compared to every other review.
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The difference is Anand fixed the brightness to 200nits on all tablets, other reviews most likely runned theirs on a fixed brightness %(where N7 2013 would be much brighter than any other tablet).

NovaSense said:
The difference is Anand fixed the brightness to 200nits on all tablets, other reviews most likely runned theirs on a fixed brightness %(where N7 2013 would be much brighter than any other tablet).
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It is not uncommon for reviewers to note the % brightness for any given bench. Many test web browsing at 50%, which should be around 300 nits. At this level, most reviewers report roughly 7 hours. Do you think lowering the brightness a mere 100 nits will result in 5 more hours of browsing? Not likely.
In the following review, less than 7 hours of web browsing was achieved with brightness set at 150 nits. http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Google-Nexus-7-16-GB-2013-Tablet.98299.0.html
I understand that test methodology varies among reviewers. But Anand's is wildly different from EVERY other review. Something is off with their testing in this case.

noxxle said:
It is not uncommon for reviewers to note the % brightness for any given bench. Many test web browsing at 50%, which should be around 300 nits. At this level, most reviewers report roughly 7 hours. Do you think lowering the brightness a mere 100 nits will result in 5 more hours of browsing? Not likely.
In the following review, less than 7 hours of web browsing was achieved with brightness set at 150 nits. http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Google-Nexus-7-16-GB-2013-Tablet.98299.0.html
I understand that test methodology varies among reviewers. But Anand's is wildly different from EVERY other review. Something is off with their testing in this case.
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Interesting, I don't think Anandtech would rig their reviews to purposely produce false results, but that 150 nits web browsing battery life time seem absurdly low. If you have a such a strong opinion, why not go to their website and question them?(if you haven't done so already)

NovaSense said:
Interesting, I don't think Anandtech would rig their reviews to purposely produce false results, but that 150 nits web browsing battery life time seem absurdly low. If you have a such a strong opinion, why not go to their website and question them?(if you haven't done so already)
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I don't think it is fair to characterize what I'm saying as a "strong opinion." I am simply perplexed at how Anand's results are inconsistent with not one or two, but EVERY other review. Nobody is getting 12 hours of web browsing at any brightness.
I don't think Anand "rigged" anything. I just think something is off with their test. Perhaps user error, or a stat counter erroneously reported something.

Because WiFi web browsing testing is just a blanket term.
Oh all the reviewers who test it....and how did they run their tests? What methods did they use and so on.
Anand runs the same exact text across all the devices. If you follow them at all they have explained what their test are designed to test. From the types of pages it loads to how frequently and so on.
Frankly most other reviewers in mobile just suck at doing of any type of useful testing period.

albundy2010 said:
Because WiFi web browsing testing is just a blanket term.
Oh all the reviewers who test it....and how did they run their tests? What methods did they use and so on.
Anand runs the same exact text across all the devices. If you follow them at all they have explained what their test are designed to test. From the types of pages it loads to how frequently and so on.
Frankly most other reviewers in mobile just suck at doing of any type of useful testing period.
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Yeah, but Anand's stats for all the non-n7 tablets are consistent with most other sites. It is only the n7 2013 that shows nearly DOUBLE what others are reporting.

albundy2010 said:
Because WiFi web browsing testing is just a blanket term.
Oh all the reviewers who test it....and how did they run their tests? What methods did they use and so on.
Anand runs the same exact text across all the devices. If you follow them at all they have explained what their test are designed to test. From the types of pages it loads to how frequently and so on.
Frankly most other reviewers in mobile just suck at doing of any type of useful testing period.
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I agree with the latter statement, and admittedly I like that the anandtech staff do try to go a bit deep and get quantifiable results when conducting their tests, but lately when I look at their battery tests on devices I'm simply confused. None of the devices I've used match up to the kind of results their battery tests for the same device arrive at. In that respect, I'm not sure they qualify as "useful testing"
Wish I got my N7 from the same batch as the one they tested, because there is no way I can get 10 hours of screen on time with the current build of 4.3.

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I agree with the latter statement, and admittedly I like that the anandtech staff do try to go a bit deep and get quantifiable results when conducting their tests, but lately when I look at their battery tests on devices I'm simply confused. None of the devices I've used match up to the kind of results their battery tests for the same device arrive at. In that respect, I'm not sure they qualify as "useful testing"
Wish I got my N7 from the same batch as the one they tested, because there is no way I can get 10 hours of screen on time with the current build of 4.3.
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I've gotten 12 hours of screen on time with 40% remaining. The tablet is capable of being ridiculously efficient with regards to battery life. If you are just reading some ebooks and browsing websites and the display is at a low brightness level, it can last forever.

You don't use your device under the same conditions as their tests.
The test are not done to show you what YOU will get during your usage. It shows how all the devices tested fair in the same exact test. A test that they explain what its doing and why they are doing it.
Some things are far easier and simple to test. Thats why those results will be similar.
This is nothing new. Look at the results for a completely different device like the iPhone for example. Then look around and see what users of devices report as their battery life for the task. It will be different. Different web pages. How many and how often you load the pages. The load you put in the WiFi radio and soc all will give you different results.

ok so let me get this straight. If 99.9% of reviews bench a tablet as capable of 7-8 hours of battery life with brightness set at varied levels, but generally between 150-200 nits, but Antendtech reports 12 hours at 200 nits, then every other bench must be inaccurate. Ok, gotcha. By all means, continue believing that you are getting 12 hours of screen-on usage. :silly:

You just don't get it.
They are doing different tests. Its not the same test.
I am not expecting to get 12hrs of screen on time since I don't use my device that way.
But I have got the same amount of screen on time as all the clueless reviewers using my device for stuff that are more battery taxing than "WiFi browsing". Netflix + YouTube+ candy crush + tune in radio while using tapatalk and other little things. So using the device as described by anands WiFi browsing test I have no doubt it will be closer to the 12 hrs they got then the 7 the mobile blogs are reporting.
Stop being lazy and look into ( if they even disclose it) how all the other sites perform their test and compare it to what anand does.
Or go over to their post on their site and challenge anand on the testing method and results and see how that goes.
Edit. lets add in some results for smartphones for the same test. The nexus 4 =5.93 hrs. The iphone 5= 10.27 The htc one x = 9.93 The HTC one = 7.8 and so on.
Do you see these same results for the other review sites? NO. Why? Because they are not doing the same test. Comparing their ( anands) test to who knows what the others is doing is just wrong.
Ill even pull in stuff directly from one of the reviews you sited in your defense,
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Google-Nexus-7-16-GB-2013-Tablet.98299.0.html
With no apps running while sitting idly on the home screen, the new Nexus was able to last for over 44 hours
The large discrepancy between idling and WLAN runtimes means users can get away without charging the tablet for a few extra days longer. More conservative brightness and system settings will also net much more battery life this time around.
There you have it. So a test like anands that is not loading webpages as often and letting the wifi radio idle more will clearly get better battery results then what they ran

muyoso said:
I've gotten 12 hours of screen on time with 40% remaining. The tablet is capable of being ridiculously efficient with regards to battery life. If you are just reading some ebooks and browsing websites and the display is at a low brightness level, it can last forever.
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This. I had about 50% left with 7 hours screen time. I was just reading/listening to old articles in pocket with screen timeout set to 10 minutes. I was pleasantly surprised.
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noxxle said:
ok so let me get this straight. If 99.9% of reviews bench a tablet as capable of 7-8 hours of battery life with brightness set at varied levels, but generally between 150-200 nits, but Antendtech reports 12 hours at 200 nits, then every other bench must be inaccurate. Ok, gotcha. By all means, continue believing that you are getting 12 hours of screen-on usage. :silly:
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You are talking out your ass. No reviews test at 150-200 nits. The verge for example does 65%, which if brightness linearly scaled on the Nexus 7 would be 379 nits, almost double what anandtech tested at. Again if brightness linearly scales, anandtech was testing at around 34% brightness.
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Yeah I can completely believe getting insane battery life at lower screen brightness

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General Battery Life question

Can anyone tell me why the Android phones have battery life issues? Here's a scenario...my friend has an iphone, i have the fascinate. We both put our phones in our locker in the morning for work. We both come out for break and he still has well over 90% of battery life while mine is down to 70%. Why do the android phones drain so quickly. Yes I could put it in airplane mode and such but my friend doesn't have to on his Iphone.
Just wondering why these phones have such a tough time with battery life. I notice in a lot of the forums people are trying different things to get better battery life. I have tried different roms, kernels, radios, etc...and really don't notice a huge difference. I am not a heavy user of my phone and it lasts just about the day and dies. I may hit the net for few mins, do some texting, and check email from time to time. I would think the battery should last a couple days just doing this...not drain when the phone is just sitting idle. Anyway just wondering about this.
Apple has complete control over their phones. Designed in house, software developed in house, and carriers have no say in the software.
I have a feeling that has a lot to do with it.
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Which ROM? Of course you are aware of the many workarounds needed to keep froyo idle drain under control? These will eventually be fixed for good.
I have even more of a complaint about the active screen-on drain. Using auto brightness indoors, its impossible to get more than 2.5-3.0 hours of screen time. (WIFI or 3g) This is way less than iphone 4's capability of around 8 hours. There are some things that help explain it like androids 100% cpu usage when scrolling or animating the UI. However, there must be massive differences in the screen power consumption. Yea, yea, SAMOLED, power draw depends heavily on displaying black vs. white etc, but my random usage never gets more than about 2.5 hours screen usage over a day. Say what you will about apple, but they optimized the hell out of battery life.
Which kernel are you using? After moderate usage for me (games, browsing web with wifi, phone calls, etc) my battery life is around 70% after 15 hours.
Kaze105 said:
Which kernel are you using? After moderate usage for me (games, browsing web with wifi, phone calls, etc) my battery life is around 70% after 15 hours.
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Guys, since screen-on time dominates battery usage, it'd be nice to note how much screen-on time you get and your brightness setting. Defining "light" usage over a number of hours could mean just about anything... very subjective.
Scrappy1 said:
Guys, since screen-on time dominates battery usage, it'd be nice to note how much screen-on time you get and your brightness setting. Defining "light" usage over a number of hours could mean just about anything... very subjective.
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True enough. I set my light to auto and since im usually in a room, the light setting is at lowest. When im outside, its goes to the brightest settings.
Shakes The AssClown said:
Can anyone tell me why the Android phones have battery life issues? Here's a scenario...my friend has an iphone, i have the fascinate. We both put our phones in our locker in the morning for work. We both come out for break and he still has well over 90% of battery life while mine is down to 70%. Why do the android phones drain so quickly. Yes I could put it in airplane mode and such but my friend doesn't have to on his Iphone.
Just wondering why these phones have such a tough time with battery life. I notice in a lot of the forums people are trying different things to get better battery life. I have tried different roms, kernels, radios, etc...and really don't notice a huge difference. I am not a heavy user of my phone and it lasts just about the day and dies. I may hit the net for few mins, do some texting, and check email from time to time. I would think the battery should last a couple days just doing this...not drain when the phone is just sitting idle. Anyway just wondering about this.
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Iphone pretty much have more or less the same battery life problems.
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There are some things that help explain it like androids 100% cpu usage when scrolling or animating the UI. However, there must be massive differences in the screen power consumption. Yea, yea, SAMOLED, power draw depends heavily on displaying black vs. white etc, but my random usage never gets more than about 2.5 hours screen usage over a day. Say what you will about apple, but they optimized the hell out of battery life.
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If you use Google Navigation and constantly force rerouting to destination by taking wrong turn/path, your 100% charged phone would hit empty within 2HRs or less with the screen brightness set at minimum.
Anandtech reveiw of several real world tests shows iphone 4 smokes the fascinate bad. Not even close.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3957/samsung-fascinate-review-verizons-galaxy-s-smartphone/8
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Anandtech reveiw of several real world tests shows iphone 4 smokes the fascinate bad. Not even close.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3957/samsung-fascinate-review-verizons-galaxy-s-smartphone/8
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We have a more powerful phone than the iphone 4, of course our battery is shorter. (better screen, faster cpu, etc) Also seems like our antenna is the best according to the review.
Android is made to constantly sync with the internet for updates and notifications. It's just the nature of the operating system to draw a lot of power because in theory it is a more powerful and complicated system. Also keep in mind that the battery inside an iPhone is huge and it is lithium polymer which lasts longer but is more expensive. These larger lithium polymer batteries are the main reason iPads and MacBooks get good battery life as well as their less powerful chip sets.
EDIT: Oh, and also iOS doesn't use as much RAM as Android so that also factors in to the battery life being generally better.
Kaze105 said:
We have a more powerful phone than the iphone 4, of course our battery is shorter. (better screen, faster cpu, etc) Also seems like our antenna is the best according to the review.
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Dunno about you but my Fascinate get's poor signal compared to other phones. Also slower network speeds.
Kaze105 said:
We have a more powerful phone than the iphone 4, of course our battery is shorter. (better screen, faster cpu, etc) Also seems like our antenna is the best according to the review.
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I appreciate the more open, easy to modify nature of android over apple. But to trying and explain the 2x worse battery life on android as arising from "better" processor and screen is wishful thinking at best... blatent android fanboy propaganda at worst. We need to learn how apple has optimized things, not turn an overconfident blind eye.
Scrappy1 said:
I appreciate the more open, easy to modify nature of android over apple. But to trying and explain the 2x worse battery life on android as arising from "better" processor and screen is wishful thinking at best... blatent android fanboy propaganda at worst. We need to learn how apple has optimized things, not turn an overconfident blind eye.
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It's unfortunately that the Fascinate lacks the monthly software update support similar to Apple, but using the support from this forum by the devs, I had achieved 1% power usage for every 3 hour idled = max possible 300 HRS.
Zacisblack said:
Android is made to constantly sync with the internet for updates and notifications. It's just the nature of the operating system to draw a lot of power because in theory it is a more powerful and complicated system. Also keep in mind that the battery inside an iPhone is huge and it is lithium polymer which lasts longer but is more expensive. These larger lithium polymer batteries are the main reason iPads and MacBooks get good battery life as well as their less powerful chip sets.
EDIT: Oh, and also iOS doesn't use as much RAM as Android so that also factors in to the battery life being generally better.
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Guys, there's a lot of android fanboy propaganda going on in here. I'm not against android, but don't automatically defend it like its your mama. The ifixit link below shows iphone 4 has 1420 mah battery as opposed to fascinates 1500 mah. They also both have 512 MB RAM. So that's not the issue.
Also, the Anandtech tests were done with phone on and active. So are you trying to explain android was at a disadvantage because it was "doing things in the background"? Like what? Any background process or sync service that kills your battery that bad is implemented horribly. iOS is doing the important stuff in the background too... maybe just not the ESPN or weather widget. But no one in their right mind believes those things are the problem.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4-Teardown/3130/1
Scrappy1 said:
I appreciate the more open, easy to modify nature of android over apple. But to trying and explain the 2x worse battery life on android as arising from "better" processor and screen is wishful thinking at best... blatent android fanboy propaganda at worst. We need to learn how apple has optimized things, not turn an overconfident blind eye.
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Sadly, I am the opposite of an android fanboy as I would have gotten the iphone for verizon asap if I havent gotten the fascinate back at November. (Iphone on Verizon were still rumors back then). Also note that review was done in October last year. Battery life is probably much better now with cleaned roms and froyo.
If you really need to browse the web over 4 hours a day on your phone (use computer?), why not just get a larger battery or even get the iphone?
Edit: Hardware mean a lot in battery usage. After checking the iphones CPU, seems like its pretty much the same or similar to the ones of the fascinate, except slower clock speeds.
Kaze105 said:
Sadly, I am the opposite of an android fanboy as I would have gotten the iphone for verizon asap if I havent gotten the fascinate back at November. (Iphone on Verizon were still rumors back then). Also note that review was done in October last year. Battery life is probably much better now with cleaned roms and froyo.
If you really need to browse the web over 4 hours a day on your phone (use computer?), why not just get a larger battery or even get the iphone?
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Personally I don't get any better battery life from froyo ROMS. My wife's fascinate with stock eclair usually gets as many if not more hours of screen time as I get with superclean 2.9.2 and jt's EC10 w/ slight undervolt. Sometimes I get much worse battery life when I forget to activate one of the 10 workaround hacks still needed to fix the idle drain issue.
I use 2.5 hours of screen time daily quite often and find my battery exhausted before the day is over. Maybe I'm the rare case, but I doubt it.
Zacisblack said:
Dunno about you but my Fascinate get's poor signal compared to other phones. Also slower network speeds.
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Verizon is pretty much known for its slower network speeds compared to AT&T. I do get pretty good signal, overall.
Scrappy1 said:
Personally I don't get any better battery life from froyo ROMS. My wife's fascinate with stock eclair usually gets as many if not more hours of screen time as I get with superclean 2.9.2 and jt's EC10 w/ slight undervolt. Sometimes I get much worse battery life when I forget to activate one of the 10 workaround hacks still needed to fix the idle drain issue.
I use 2.5 hours of screen time daily quite often and find my battery exhausted before the day is over. Maybe I'm the rare case, but I doubt it.
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My battery life with imnuts undervolted kernel is much better than ones from previous EB01 kernels. I didnt find much difference between SC 2.9.2 ROM and Nameless V3 battery with the same kernel. I usually have around 75-50 percent battery life left from moderate usage. (Different from other people according to screen brightness and etc as stated in previous posts)
Kaze105 said:
My battery life with imnuts undervolted kernel is much better than ones from previous EB01 kernels. I didnt find much difference between SC 2.9.2 ROM and Nameless V3 battery with the same kernel. I usually have around 75-50 percent battery life left from moderate usage. (Different from other people according to screen brightness and etc as stated in previous posts)
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Under battery details, what is your display "time on" at end of your day? What is Max "time on" you ever got? Without those numbers its hard to say anything objectively.
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Under battery details, what is your display "time on" at end of your day? What is Max "time on" you ever got? Without those numbers its hard to say anything objectively.
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Since its monday tomorrow, ill test the max time on. At the end of the day, or rather when I start charging it again/installing kernels or roms, time on is 14 hours and 17 minutes.
On my fascinate I unplug phone at 645 check face book and xda for about a hour on auto brightness. I then go to school and check pulse and xda many times totaling around 2 hours. The rest of the time is idle so after 2-3 hours of screen time and then 3-4 hours of idle during the school day I get home with 85-89% left im using dark revenge with imnuts undervolted kernel. Im no android fanboy I'm just posting my stats.
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15.3 hours of talk time or "up to 10"?

I'm really confused by Google about this.
Various websites (including androidcentral and androidandme) show google's press release to show that the phone has 15.3 hours of talk, and 390 hours of standby time.
But Google has told the verge that it will have "up to 10" hours of talk time.
Then my friend found this: http://support.google.com/nexus/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2840740&topic=2775467&ctx=topic
Which essentially says "up to 10" hours of talk time, and 250 hours standby.
If that is the case, and it looks like it is, I am disappointed. With my OEM 2000 Mah battery in my Galaxy Nexus, I can also obtain about 10 hours of talk time. So then that leads me to believe this Li-polymer battery is no more efficient than the regular li-ion that we have currently...and most of all, I don't see how the phone's crappy "screen on time" (which is a measely 4 hours on mine) will improve.
It's not how big the battery is that determines the length of time it takes to drain it. It's how the battery is used. We have to wait for reviews before making judgements.
ksc6000 said:
I'm really confused by Google about this.
Various websites (including androidcentral and androidandme) show google's press release to show that the phone has 15.3 hours of talk, and 390 hours of standby time.
But Google has told the verge that it will have "up to 10" hours of talk time.
Then my friend found this: http://support.google.com/nexus/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2840740&topic=2775467&ctx=topic
Which essentially says "up to 10" hours of talk time, and 250 hours standby.
If that is the case, and it looks like it is, I am disappointed. With my OEM 2000 Mah battery in my Galaxy Nexus, I can also obtain about 10 hours of talk time. So then that leads me to believe this Li-polymer battery is no more efficient than the regular li-ion that we have currently...and most of all, I don't see how the phone's crappy "screen on time" (which is a measely 4 hours on mine) will improve.
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What's the point of speculating? I've never seen any device's battery last as long as the product data sheet says it will. Once the phone is more thoroughly reviewed we'll have a better idea. Even then, the battery life is completely relative to how it's being used.
comminus said:
What's the point of speculating? I've never seen any device's battery last as long as the product data sheet says it will. Once the phone is more thoroughly reviewed we'll have a better idea. Even then, the battery life is completely relative to how it's being used.
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I understand what you're saying about relativity to use, but ratings have to have some stem of truth to them, and even if they are inaccurate, they are measuring points.
The point is, they rated the Galaxy Nexus's original 1750Mah battery at 8 hours of talk time.
They've rated this phone's 2100 mah battery at "up to 10".
1750 is 83% of 2100 mah. 83% of 10 hours is 8 hours and 19 minutes. So if in fact by their measurement, the new li-ion-polymer battery in this does only yield "up to 10" hours of battery life, then it's not any significantly more efficient than the Galaxy Nexus' batteries.
In the press releases that all the android websites have seemed to have recieved, it says 15.3 hours of talk time. If that is true, that means this battery is 63% more efficient. That's HUGE. So it's not something to be glossed over. Something is not right. And honestly when I first read those press releases, that made me very excited.
Androidcentral did a poll and found battery life to be at the top of people's concerns with their phones. So this is definitely relevant.
With that in mind, I'm guessing a lot of people, like myself included were hoping for an increase in our screen on time, and now I'm pessemistic about that.
Battery life should be comparable to the one of LG Optimus G (battery is from LG, too, and it is stated, like for the LG that the charging cycles are 800, instead of the usual 500). Hardware is nearly the same.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-O...-Galaxy-S-III-claims-an-LG-experiment_id35585
This experiment was made by LG itself, so it isn't confident but I believe that it could be around 15hrs.
ksc6000 said:
I understand what you're saying about relativity to use, but ratings have to have some stem of truth to them, and even if they are inaccurate, they are measuring points.
The point is, they rated the Galaxy Nexus's original 1750Mah battery at 8 hours of talk time.
They've rated this phone's 2100 mah battery at "up to 10".
1750 is 83% of 2100 mah. 83% of 10 hours is 8 hours and 19 minutes. So if in fact by their measurement, the new li-ion-polymer battery in this does only yield "up to 10" hours of battery life, then it's not any significantly more efficient than the Galaxy Nexus' batteries.
In the press releases that all the android websites have seemed to have recieved, it says 15.3 hours of talk time. If that is true, that means this battery is 63% more efficient. That's HUGE. So it's not something to be glossed over. Something is not right. And honestly when I first read those press releases, that made me very excited.
Androidcentral did a poll and found battery life to be at the top of people's concerns with their phones. So this is definitely relevant.
With that in mind, I'm guessing a lot of people, like myself included were hoping for an increase in our screen on time, and now I'm pessemistic about that.
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I agree that battery life is a huge area of concern for Android users, and I too hope that there are improvements with the Nexus 4 over the Galaxy Nexus. My point is that the variance in how these devices are used from person to person, what types of applications are running, signal strength, etc makes a numbers like 15.3 or 10 hours of talk time generally moot.
Given the extremely limited amount of information to work with due to so few in-depth reviews being released at the moment, we need to wait and see. Will we all see 15.3 hours of talk time? Probably not. Will it be better than the Galaxy Nexus? I think it will, but how much better remains to be seen and will vary.
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I agree that battery life is a huge area of concern for Android users, and I too hope that there are improvements with the Nexus 4 over the Galaxy Nexus. My point is that the variance in how these devices are used from person to person, what types of applications are running, signal strength, etc makes a numbers like 15.3 or 10 hours of talk time generally moot.
Given the extremely limited amount of information to work with due to so few in-depth reviews being released at the moment, we need to wait and see. Will we all see 15.3 hours of talk time? Probably not. Will it be better than the Galaxy Nexus? I think it will, but how much better remains to be seen and will vary.
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I hope you're right, that it is better. Of course I don't actually expect the battery to be a whole 63% more efficient, but I hope that there is some truth to it being more efficient. Maybe 40% more efficient?
The implications could be very good if it's true, because LG is also claiming that this screen is 60% more efficient.
Now let's look at it another way:
If I can get 4.5 hours of screen on, on the Galaxy Nexus, then if their claims were fully true (which we'll know is not the case, but let's look at it for fun's sake)...then 4.5 x 1.63 (63% more efficient battery) x 1.60 (60% more efficient screen) = 11.736 of screen on time.
Is that realistic? I HIGHLY doubt it.
What if their claims were somewhat true?
Let's say it's only 40% for either:
4.5 x 1.4 x 1.4 = 8.82. That's still something I would love.
Is it a pipe dream? Probably. But one can dream.
OP you're not comparing apples to apples here; the Nexus 4 is completely different hardware so trying to compare the efficiency of the different battery technologies is a pointless exercise.
trying to do math when you've got the underlying assumptions wrong will just yield wrong answers.

Considering buying this tablet, Just one question

What's the battery life of this tablet like?
I have a job that involves 8+ hours away from the office.
I really like the spen functionality the tablet provides as well as the multitasking potential it offers.
I don't really need to know how many hours of watching movies or playing games this tablet will sustain.
I want to know what battery life is like if I will be primarily using this tablet for web browsing and reading PDFs, typing up notes using word processing apps, non stop 8+ hours a day at let's say at 40 to 50% percent brightness.
Does this tablet at minimum beat the ipad 4 in terms of web browsing/reading PDFs battery life?
What would it take to completely drain the battery life of the tablet if one were to only use it for web browsing?
Can anyone post their experiences to ease the worries of a wary buyer that want's to know what their getting for such a pricey tablet.
I'm getting a average of 7 to 8 hours of screen on time out of my note10.1 2014.
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i get 9-11hrs, but i always have my brightness set at 25% or lower.
With average usage I'm getting around 8 hrs also. With heavy use (video calling and games) I get around 5hrs.
Everyday is different, unless you do the same thing everyday at the same time for the same amount of time. But with all the piddly things I've had issues with on this tablet the battery REALLY impresses me, and I'm a real heavy user (IE, Sketching, Games, YouTube, Web Surfing etc.) But I also keep my auto brightness on (I know, I hate it too) and common sense, if you don't need the Wi-Fi or Bluetooth, turn it off, although I never do and have been really impressed so far with the battery. pound for pound awesome tablet.
I have yet to have this thing die on me. After using it heavy all day, the lowest I've seen the battery before plugging it in is about 18% and my day starts at 8 (8-5 Work Day - Moderate to Above Average Use) and ends anywhere between 11pm to 2am with 6 o'clock till I go to bed HEAVY HEAVY use, especially since I'm new to tablets and still playing with this one a lot. It never leaves my hands basically.
Hope this helps.
you rarely need to exceed 40% brightness on this thing. this is the first thing i've used that i found to strain my eyes when at 100%. 25-40% works 90% of the time.
As far as iPad comparsison goes, supposedly it has slightly worse battery life. I think phonearena or something gave iPad 9 hours and this device a little over 8. Battery life isn't a concern. You should be able to get through the day without a hitch.
So it seems that the consensus is that the tablet will definitely last a full day's use assuming a typical 9-5 workday using it for browsing purposes.
The battery life averages about 8 hours or so at around 40 percent brightness at continuous use.
Can anyone with the previous generation note comment on how the 2014 model compares to the older model?
I get the impression that it's about the same. Although it has a slightly larger battery, the increased power draw from the higher resolution screen makes it average out to around the same average battery life for things to power the things we do more frequently - that is, browsing, reading, and typing notes, with the occasional movie here and there.
I currently own a galaxy tab 2. I can verify that at about 40 percent brightness, i'd also get around 8 hours or so of mixed use. If I'm strictly using it for a heavy web browsing session, the battery only lasts about 6 hours.
This is me being very conservative with my estimates.
I get the impression that this note 10.1 2014 does a bit better in that regard huh?
8 hours browsing?
Also owned the 2012 note 10.1 and indeed battery life is the same.
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I was just in an 8-hour class where I used S-Note extensively. (From 8:30a to 4:30p.) I took around 20 pages of notes. When I wasn't actively taking notes, I was experimenting with the features of S-Note and the tablet in general since it's pretty new to me, as well as browsing the web, Facebook, etc. When the class started my battery was at 83% (I didn't plug it in until very late last night and didn't turn it off while it charged, so it wasn't fully charged when I left home this morning). As of now, over 45 minutes after the class, my battery is at 53%. My screen brightness has been around 25% all day which was plenty bright in a brightly lit room.
We did have a half-hour lunch, and a couple breaks during which the screen was off. But, not too shabby, if you ask me.

The SOT Thread (Let's try to get the longest SOT)

Intent of this thread:
This thread is created with the intent to expound on everyone's various Nexus 6 Kernel Settings, System Settings, Apps used, and what you are doing to get the most SOT (Screen On Time). Let's try to keep the thread as clean as possible and organized. The Best 5 SOT will be copied to a reserved space below and replaced with any SOT that beats it. Your best settings must not compromise performance beyond what is needed by the average user. Screenshots are highly encouraged when posted with final SOT prior to being put into slots of recognition.
Prerequisites to participate in thread:
You must be using the Motorola Nexus 6
Posting
When Posting try to always maintain your list of your current settings for others to see, always make sure you mention what kernel you're using, what rom you are using, and try to keep things in a clean list as shown in this example below:
Rom: Chroma
Kernel: Stock
SOT: 5h 20m
CPU
CPU MAX: 1958 MHz *
CPU MIN: 300 MHz *
CPU Gov: Interactive
CPU Boost: 0ms
Sync Threshold: Disabled
Input Interval: 0ms
Input Boost Frequency: 883MHz *
Wi-Fi
Keep Wi-Fi on During Sleep: Always
This allows users to easily compare their settings to yours. Also if you wouldn't mind sharing what apps were listed in your top list of battery consumption that could also be beneficial for users looking to maximize SOT and overall battery life. SOT can vary on the habits of the user, so it's important to know what habits and apps are being ran to contribute to your overall SOT.
Example of app listing:
Consumption
Screen: 57%
Android System: 6%
Cell Standby: 5%
Automagic Premium: 5%
This will allow users to compare their app usage to other users and try to pin-point what takes up the most battery usage.
OUR GOALS
Maximize SOT
Maximize Overall Battery Life
Keep thread as clean and organized as possible.
Keep and maintain lists of our settings
Minimal amounts of comments to make things easy to navigate.
Keep things on topic.
Top 5 SOT
Reserved Space for Top 5 SOT List
i guess my 7.5 hour sot doesnt count as its not posted here? anyways, with real use and not just getting the highest sot thats possible kind of use, every single persons phone will differ. why? because every single person uses their phone differently. different apps, different processes, camera, flashlight, how bright i have my screen, among many other things. so, having any kind of sot just shows that you actually use the phone. and with my experience here on xda, im going to flat out say that this will be a foolish thread. and again, that said.. have fun
gsam says I have 4 hours and 45 minutes AVERAGE screen on time per complete charge since February. That is higher than I would have guessed from occasionally looking at my battery stats (I would have said 3.5 hours average). Maybe there are some subtleties in how that number is calculated.
Stock with franco kernel. 50% auto brightness. Dark themes everywhere with layers etc (although I've only had those dark themes over the last month)
Isn't screen brightness the key factor here?
Personally I gave up since I have such weak signal at my house. I usually get around 2 to 3 hours SOT but that's with around 80% brightness. Even if I lowered it, the radio would be top consumer.
A phone screen uses some battery but not a ton. Just look at some of the smartwatches out there that can get their screens left on for 8 hours or so on 300 mah batteries. Our screen on time is terrible because android is a totally inconsistent mess. That's why one day with similar usage the phone lasts forever and the next it's dead really fast.
Although iOS has it's flaws, it's greatest strengths are in consistency and resource management. That's why apple can make phones with batteries under 2000 mah, with 2gb of ram, and still be less laggy than android and have batter battery life. It's to bad Google won't just stop with their constant useless updates to the android os and spend a year focusing in only increasing efficiency of the os.
nascar48 said:
A phone screen uses some battery but not a ton. Just look at some of the smartwatches out there that can get their screens left on for 8 hours or so on 300 mah batteries. Our screen on time is terrible because android is a totally inconsistent mess. That's why one day with similar usage the phone lasts forever and the next it's dead really fast.
Although iOS has it's flaws, it's greatest strengths are in consistency and resource management. That's why apple can make phones with batteries under 2000 mah, with 2gb of ram, and still be less laggy than android and have batter battery life. It's to bad Google won't just stop with their constant useless updates to the android os and spend a year focusing in only increasing efficiency of the os.
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the screen uses the most battery, period.
and your greatest problem isnt android, but how you set up and use your phone. as i have no issue with screen on time(get between 5-7h, 5h without any effort). nor do i have issues with lagginess, ever!
Im with Simms. I average 5-7 hours of sot also. I just use it and don't cripple the cpu. Killing cores & turning town frequencies only makes it work harder thus for using more battery. Its like a smart car , pathetic little engine only average 36 while your fully loaded Buick lesabre averages 33. Better power to weight ratio working the engine less. I turn CPU boost frequency up to 1728 and run it at 900-1000ms. Run CPU boost at 250ms with all 4 cores on always. Also turn go high speed load to 50% from 85%. Always running in beastmode. Cool & fast.
If people are soo worried about SOT to the tune of 5+ hours. Well really you need to get a life.
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If people are soo worried about SOT to the tune of 5+ hours. Well really you need to get a life.
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lol
i see at least 5h sot, thats why i do not worry at all about my n6 battery life. BUT.. there are many n6 owners/users that see less than 3.5h sot, which to me could indicate issues, with the phone OR the user(or just a terrible signal). anyways, i say let them have their fun experimenting and trying different things
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i see at least 5h sot, thats why i do not worry at all about my n6 battery life. BUT.. there are many n6 owners/users that see less than 3.5h sot, which to me could indicate issues, with the phone OR the user(or just a terrible signal). anyways, i say let them have their fun experimenting and trying different things
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Im lucky to get 2 hours of SOT. Hell I can kill the battery in less then that from full. I know the cause of the issue (which cant be fixed) but that is enough SOT for me. If I spent more then that with my nose in the phone my friends would toss my phone in the ocean lol
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Im lucky to get 2 hours of SOT. Hell I can kill the battery in less then that from full. I know the cause of the issue (which cant be fixed) but that is enough SOT for me. If I spent more then that with my nose in the phone my friends would toss my phone in the ocean lol
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2h sot?!?!
sounds like my g1(but i think it did better).
for me its my sales job, furniture. id say about 20% of my time actually gets used by work. all that other time ive got to do something, and i dont play games. so, i spend a lot of time reading. but i also keep my brightness down really low..
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2h sot?!?!
sounds like my g1(but i think it did better).
for me its my sales job, furniture. id say about 20% of my time actually gets used by work. all that other time ive got to do something, and i dont play games. so, i spend a lot of time reading. but i also keep my brightness down really low..
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Yeah. Signal here is weak at best so the radio kills my battery no matter the device. Heck you lose all signal once you leave town
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Yeah. Signal here is weak at best so the radio kills my battery no matter the device. Heck you lose all signal once you leave town
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You know, some people (Americans, just like you) get over 4 hours of SOT and claim to have not so stellar signal.
I think your signal is only part of the problem. I mean look, I can't get more than 4 hours of SOT, and I generally have 95%+ signal.
Speaking of problems... I can't get more than 3.5-4 hours (best case scenario) of SOT, regardless if I'm on Wi-Fi, 3G, 4G, have low signal, have full signal etc.)... If you could help me see what's wrong with my phone, you're more than welcome to join this thread.
Thank you in advance
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You didn't seem to be using your phone much. I mean... there's no app showing up in top 5 battery consumers.
Also, what theme is that?
And... "Mobile standby" is actually called "Cell standby" on my device.
Formhault said:
You know, some people (Americans, just like you) get over 4 hours of SOT and claim to have not so stellar signal.
I think your signal is only part of the problem. I mean look, I can't get more than 4 hours of SOT, and I generally have 95%+ signal.
Speaking of problems... I can't get more than 3.5-4 hours (best case scenario) of SOT, regardless if I'm on Wi-Fi, 3G, 4G, have low signal, have full signal etc.)... If you could help me see what's wrong with my phone, you're more than welcome to join this thread.
Thank you in advance
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You didn't seem to be using your phone much. I mean... there's no app showing up in top 5 battery consumers.
Also, what theme is that?
And... "Mobile standby" is actually called "Cell standby" on my device.
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Well majority of the time I was reading in Kindle app. Otherwise I won't go beyond 4 hours SOT on an average. It's Android N that m running, no custom theme.
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Well majority of the time I was reading in Kindle app. Otherwise I won't go beyond 4 hours SOT on an average.
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Hmm... So your battery life is similar to what I get.
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It's Android N that m running, no custom theme.
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Oh, that's why the Battery usage screen looks different. Okay.
Formhault said:
You know, some people (Americans, just like you) get over 4 hours of SOT and claim to have not so stellar signal.
I think your signal is only part of the problem. I mean look, I can't get more than 4 hours of SOT, and I generally have 95%+ signal.
Speaking of problems... I can't get more than 3.5-4 hours (best case scenario) of SOT, regardless if I'm on Wi-Fi, 3G, 4G, have low signal, have full signal etc.)... If you could help me see what's wrong with my phone, you're more than welcome to join this thread.
Thank you in advance
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You didn't seem to be using your phone much. I mean... there's no app showing up in top 5 battery consumers.
Also, what theme is that?
And... "Mobile standby" is actually called "Cell standby" on my device.
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I already know it's my signal. Have been testing it for almost a year to find the issues. Being in America is a relative term. Where I live signal is not the best and when I leave town you lose signal all together for hundreds of miles.
Mine has been getting worse and worse as time goes by. No matter the ROM or kernel or brightness or signal. The note 7 better be a real nice phone cuz I can't make it to the next Nexus.
Pure Nexus
Stock kernel
No CPU or GPU mods
WiFi on always. Mobile data off while on WiFi
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Battery life

I did buy one..... waiting but I hope the battery life is going to be excellent.
The size of the battery is not huge and even though they say excellent battery life Google does not give you stats.
Screen on "50%" how long....
Can you wake up 6am set the phone in charger at midnight and still have battery?
Me I typically play a game, use my language learning programs a few hours a day.
Check maybe 20 emails, and 20 text messages.
Location services and bluetooth are always on. (need them for Play services and Android Wear)
And I believe and I hope the device proves me wrong but if I know it will be a long time between charges I will need to modify usage.
Is the type of usage I go through unreasonable ?
Yet all they say is you can get 7 hours of usage (what type of usage?) in 15 minutes.
So you are in the airports all day the battery is at 20% and you need to have the charger with you and find an outlet.
1) do not always have the charger handy
2) can not always find A/C
Does anybody really expect better battery life than with other phones ?
I am wrong Google did post some stats
3,450 mAh battery
Standby time (LTE): up to 23 days
Talk time (3g/WCDMA): up to 32 hours
Internet use time (Wi-Fi): up to 14 hours
Internet use time (LTE): up to 14 hours
Video playback: up to 14 hours
Audio playback (via headset): up to 130 hours
I should have no problem going through a long day moderate usage if this is correct.
AstroDigital said:
I am wrong Google did post some stats
3,450 mAh battery
Standby time (LTE): up to 23 days
Talk time (3g/WCDMA): up to 32 hours
Internet use time (Wi-Fi): up to 14 hours
Internet use time (LTE): up to 14 hours
Video playback: up to 14 hours
Audio playback (via headset): up to 130 hours
I should have no problem going through a long day moderate usage if this is correct.
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They stated similar stats when they released the 6P (the shop page was deleted so I can't paste them) and I got one....
Best screen-on-time I can get is 5 hours (with custom rom, custom kernel and a lot of system tweaks).
Don't rely on those stats, they were (in the best case) made under ideal conditions (probably in a lab) or (and that's rather the case) just calculated and without promise....
I am somewhat underwhelmed with the 6P battery life, but I'm stock as I can't root per company policies.
Hoping the Pixel XL will be better. Or at least same... If it is worse, then it will be going back in the 14 day return window.
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Potentially we're looking at better stats.
Same size battery in a smaller body with a smaller screen and Supposed CPU optimisations, could explain the underclock.
My 6p makes it through the day without a charge, but I'm never far from an outlet, car charger or power bank just in case. Now that I've USB C proofed my home and office the rapid charging serves its purpose.
We've all seen the garbage spouted about days of battery life before and usage varies so much per user it's hard to compare. As they say the proof is in the pudding so we'll soon see, the price definitely isn't going up so why not wait and see?
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They stated similar stats when they released the 6P (the shop page was deleted so I can't paste them) and I got one....
Best screen-on-time I can get is 5 hours (with custom rom, custom kernel and a lot of system tweaks).
Don't rely on those stats, they were (in the best case) made under ideal conditions (probably in a lab) or (and that's rather the case) just calculated and without promise....
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Why not rely on Google's internal battery life tests?
They did the same for the 6P, so they can be compared.
All that matters in the end is how it really works for you, also stats are always overly optimistic. You buy a car an the dealer says the car is rated 5 litres per 100 km and every time the best your car does is 7 litres per 100km
What I had to do in the past is when I know I will be travelling without easy access to a charger is ration battery usage.
The stats though are encouraging hopefully and only time will tell is my next device I will not have to ration too much.
I really miss removable batteries remember the carefree way I used devices in the past with huge Zerolemon batteries. They will like sell a case for the Pixel XL but a case that adds battery capacity is not as elegant as just using a bigger battery.
The reviews on the battery life seem pretty terrible so far and is really worrying me as it was my only concern. I have been rocking a Hauwei Mate 8 recently, which I consistently get around 7 hr SOT. Reviews for Pixel XL are coming out at 3.5-4 hr, which is not good for how big it is. It has only a slightly smaller battery than the S7 Edge, but the Edge performs much better, I was getting 5-5 .5 hr SOT with my Edge before switching to Mate 8. Google Assistant always being present and doing stuff may be a pretty severe drain. Just as someone else mentioned, nice that we have a 15 day return window.
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The reviews on the battery life seem pretty terrible so far and is really worrying me as it was my only concern. I have been rocking a Hauwei Mate 8 recently, which I consistently get around 7 hr SOT. Reviews for Pixel XL are coming out at 3.5-4 hr, which is not good for how big it is. It has only a slightly smaller battery than the S7 Edge, but the Edge performs much better, I was getting 5-5 .5 hr SOT with my Edge before switching to Mate 8. Google Assistant always being present and doing stuff may be a pretty severe drain. Just as someone else mentioned, nice that we have a 15 day return window.
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3-4 hours SOT sucks. Im getting 6 hours on 6p and 5 on Nexus 6
SOT is dependent on multiple factors, like what apps are running in background and what you do on the phone. Web browsing habits of sites visited, some sites have a lot going on.
frch0603 said:
The reviews on the battery life seem pretty terrible so far and is really worrying me as it was my only concern. I have been rocking a Hauwei Mate 8 recently, which I consistently get around 7 hr SOT. Reviews for Pixel XL are coming out at 3.5-4 hr, which is not good for how big it is. It has only a slightly smaller battery than the S7 Edge, but the Edge performs much better, I was getting 5-5 .5 hr SOT with my Edge before switching to Mate 8. Google Assistant always being present and doing stuff may be a pretty severe drain. Just as someone else mentioned, nice that we have a 15 day return window.
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Where are you seeing these 3.5-4 hr SOT reviews??
Many of the reviews that came out yesterday gave the Pixel highly positive ratings on battery. MKBHD said he got 6hrs SOT on full brightness, Dieter at the Verge said it might be the best battery life of any phone he'd ever used. Wired and a couple others also noted it as a high point. But then Mossberg said the smaller Pixel got so-so battery, and I think one of the Android Authority guys also called it average.
So... it sounds like basically any other Android phone. Varies highly for different people.
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Where are you seeing these 3.5-4 hr SOT reviews??
Many of the reviews that came out yesterday gave the Pixel highly positive ratings on battery. MKBHD said he got 6hrs SOT on full brightness, Dieter at the Verge said it might be the best battery life of any phone he'd ever used. Wired and a couple others also noted it as a high point. But then Mossberg said the smaller Pixel got so-so battery, and I think one of the Android Authority guys also called it average.
So... it sounds like basically any other Android phone. Varies highly for different people.
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Pretty sure the AA review, he was getting 3.5-4 hours for battery life and called it good/above average, which is not. I remember his specifically because that is where I got the idea that google assistant could be having a large impact if used heavily, which he said he was using heavily. I don't remember MKBHD saying 6 hours but I would have to go rewatch. I know I saw at least 2 reviews that said 3.5-4 ish and they both called it good. Which makes me worry that all the other reviews that called it good without giving specific numbers were under this same impression. I watched a crap ton of reviews, many didn't give specific stats. They must be comparing it to htc10, lg g5 and iphone to consider that good, leaving samsung as the only outstanding if they are considering that anywhere near good.
Turned my phone on right out of the box around 12pm and started using it and I hit over 3 hours of sot
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Turned my phone on right out of the box around 12pm and started using it and I hit over 3 hours of sot
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I wouldn't put too much stock in the first charge out of the box but that is still not a good indication. No bueno. Guess I have two weeks to try it out.
I'm at 90% right now with 56 min screen on time. Just reading the news/web browsing. On wifi.
I'm happy.
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Turned my phone on right out of the box around 12pm and started using it and I hit over 3 hours of sot
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I'm at 90% right now with 56 min screen on time. Just reading the news/web browsing. On wifi.
I'm happy.
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That's what I have been wanting to hear! Would you be willing to post some screen shots of your battery life, etc before you plug her in tonight. How heavily have you been using the new assistant? have you done anything to customize your settings like turn off always listening or anything like that, adaptive screen brightness, etc?
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I got mine yesterday at 5pm, Used it straight, setting it up with everything turned on and screen @ %100 (setup, music, movies, games) and it died after 5.5 hours. It was also on 86% charge when i got it.
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Good to see.
frch0603 said:
That's what I have been wanting to hear! Would you be willing to post some screen shots of your battery life, etc before you plug her in tonight. How heavily have you been using the new assistant? have you done anything to customize your settings like turn off always listening or anything like that, adaptive screen brightness, etc?
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Right now, no tweaks everything turned on (assistant, always listening, Bluetooth, wifi).
Mostly web browsing. 15 minutes or so of Clash Royale. On wifi most of the day. Auto brightness.
Looks like about 6h SOT if I took it to empty.
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