I did buy one..... waiting but I hope the battery life is going to be excellent.
The size of the battery is not huge and even though they say excellent battery life Google does not give you stats.
Screen on "50%" how long....
Can you wake up 6am set the phone in charger at midnight and still have battery?
Me I typically play a game, use my language learning programs a few hours a day.
Check maybe 20 emails, and 20 text messages.
Location services and bluetooth are always on. (need them for Play services and Android Wear)
And I believe and I hope the device proves me wrong but if I know it will be a long time between charges I will need to modify usage.
Is the type of usage I go through unreasonable ?
Yet all they say is you can get 7 hours of usage (what type of usage?) in 15 minutes.
So you are in the airports all day the battery is at 20% and you need to have the charger with you and find an outlet.
1) do not always have the charger handy
2) can not always find A/C
Does anybody really expect better battery life than with other phones ?
I am wrong Google did post some stats
3,450 mAh battery
Standby time (LTE): up to 23 days
Talk time (3g/WCDMA): up to 32 hours
Internet use time (Wi-Fi): up to 14 hours
Internet use time (LTE): up to 14 hours
Video playback: up to 14 hours
Audio playback (via headset): up to 130 hours
I should have no problem going through a long day moderate usage if this is correct.
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I am wrong Google did post some stats
3,450 mAh battery
Standby time (LTE): up to 23 days
Talk time (3g/WCDMA): up to 32 hours
Internet use time (Wi-Fi): up to 14 hours
Internet use time (LTE): up to 14 hours
Video playback: up to 14 hours
Audio playback (via headset): up to 130 hours
I should have no problem going through a long day moderate usage if this is correct.
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They stated similar stats when they released the 6P (the shop page was deleted so I can't paste them) and I got one....
Best screen-on-time I can get is 5 hours (with custom rom, custom kernel and a lot of system tweaks).
Don't rely on those stats, they were (in the best case) made under ideal conditions (probably in a lab) or (and that's rather the case) just calculated and without promise....
I am somewhat underwhelmed with the 6P battery life, but I'm stock as I can't root per company policies.
Hoping the Pixel XL will be better. Or at least same... If it is worse, then it will be going back in the 14 day return window.
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Potentially we're looking at better stats.
Same size battery in a smaller body with a smaller screen and Supposed CPU optimisations, could explain the underclock.
My 6p makes it through the day without a charge, but I'm never far from an outlet, car charger or power bank just in case. Now that I've USB C proofed my home and office the rapid charging serves its purpose.
We've all seen the garbage spouted about days of battery life before and usage varies so much per user it's hard to compare. As they say the proof is in the pudding so we'll soon see, the price definitely isn't going up so why not wait and see?
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They stated similar stats when they released the 6P (the shop page was deleted so I can't paste them) and I got one....
Best screen-on-time I can get is 5 hours (with custom rom, custom kernel and a lot of system tweaks).
Don't rely on those stats, they were (in the best case) made under ideal conditions (probably in a lab) or (and that's rather the case) just calculated and without promise....
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Why not rely on Google's internal battery life tests?
They did the same for the 6P, so they can be compared.
All that matters in the end is how it really works for you, also stats are always overly optimistic. You buy a car an the dealer says the car is rated 5 litres per 100 km and every time the best your car does is 7 litres per 100km
What I had to do in the past is when I know I will be travelling without easy access to a charger is ration battery usage.
The stats though are encouraging hopefully and only time will tell is my next device I will not have to ration too much.
I really miss removable batteries remember the carefree way I used devices in the past with huge Zerolemon batteries. They will like sell a case for the Pixel XL but a case that adds battery capacity is not as elegant as just using a bigger battery.
The reviews on the battery life seem pretty terrible so far and is really worrying me as it was my only concern. I have been rocking a Hauwei Mate 8 recently, which I consistently get around 7 hr SOT. Reviews for Pixel XL are coming out at 3.5-4 hr, which is not good for how big it is. It has only a slightly smaller battery than the S7 Edge, but the Edge performs much better, I was getting 5-5 .5 hr SOT with my Edge before switching to Mate 8. Google Assistant always being present and doing stuff may be a pretty severe drain. Just as someone else mentioned, nice that we have a 15 day return window.
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The reviews on the battery life seem pretty terrible so far and is really worrying me as it was my only concern. I have been rocking a Hauwei Mate 8 recently, which I consistently get around 7 hr SOT. Reviews for Pixel XL are coming out at 3.5-4 hr, which is not good for how big it is. It has only a slightly smaller battery than the S7 Edge, but the Edge performs much better, I was getting 5-5 .5 hr SOT with my Edge before switching to Mate 8. Google Assistant always being present and doing stuff may be a pretty severe drain. Just as someone else mentioned, nice that we have a 15 day return window.
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3-4 hours SOT sucks. Im getting 6 hours on 6p and 5 on Nexus 6
SOT is dependent on multiple factors, like what apps are running in background and what you do on the phone. Web browsing habits of sites visited, some sites have a lot going on.
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The reviews on the battery life seem pretty terrible so far and is really worrying me as it was my only concern. I have been rocking a Hauwei Mate 8 recently, which I consistently get around 7 hr SOT. Reviews for Pixel XL are coming out at 3.5-4 hr, which is not good for how big it is. It has only a slightly smaller battery than the S7 Edge, but the Edge performs much better, I was getting 5-5 .5 hr SOT with my Edge before switching to Mate 8. Google Assistant always being present and doing stuff may be a pretty severe drain. Just as someone else mentioned, nice that we have a 15 day return window.
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Where are you seeing these 3.5-4 hr SOT reviews??
Many of the reviews that came out yesterday gave the Pixel highly positive ratings on battery. MKBHD said he got 6hrs SOT on full brightness, Dieter at the Verge said it might be the best battery life of any phone he'd ever used. Wired and a couple others also noted it as a high point. But then Mossberg said the smaller Pixel got so-so battery, and I think one of the Android Authority guys also called it average.
So... it sounds like basically any other Android phone. Varies highly for different people.
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Where are you seeing these 3.5-4 hr SOT reviews??
Many of the reviews that came out yesterday gave the Pixel highly positive ratings on battery. MKBHD said he got 6hrs SOT on full brightness, Dieter at the Verge said it might be the best battery life of any phone he'd ever used. Wired and a couple others also noted it as a high point. But then Mossberg said the smaller Pixel got so-so battery, and I think one of the Android Authority guys also called it average.
So... it sounds like basically any other Android phone. Varies highly for different people.
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Pretty sure the AA review, he was getting 3.5-4 hours for battery life and called it good/above average, which is not. I remember his specifically because that is where I got the idea that google assistant could be having a large impact if used heavily, which he said he was using heavily. I don't remember MKBHD saying 6 hours but I would have to go rewatch. I know I saw at least 2 reviews that said 3.5-4 ish and they both called it good. Which makes me worry that all the other reviews that called it good without giving specific numbers were under this same impression. I watched a crap ton of reviews, many didn't give specific stats. They must be comparing it to htc10, lg g5 and iphone to consider that good, leaving samsung as the only outstanding if they are considering that anywhere near good.
Turned my phone on right out of the box around 12pm and started using it and I hit over 3 hours of sot
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Turned my phone on right out of the box around 12pm and started using it and I hit over 3 hours of sot
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I wouldn't put too much stock in the first charge out of the box but that is still not a good indication. No bueno. Guess I have two weeks to try it out.
I'm at 90% right now with 56 min screen on time. Just reading the news/web browsing. On wifi.
I'm happy.
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Turned my phone on right out of the box around 12pm and started using it and I hit over 3 hours of sot
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I'm at 90% right now with 56 min screen on time. Just reading the news/web browsing. On wifi.
I'm happy.
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That's what I have been wanting to hear! Would you be willing to post some screen shots of your battery life, etc before you plug her in tonight. How heavily have you been using the new assistant? have you done anything to customize your settings like turn off always listening or anything like that, adaptive screen brightness, etc?
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I got mine yesterday at 5pm, Used it straight, setting it up with everything turned on and screen @ %100 (setup, music, movies, games) and it died after 5.5 hours. It was also on 86% charge when i got it.
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Good to see.
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That's what I have been wanting to hear! Would you be willing to post some screen shots of your battery life, etc before you plug her in tonight. How heavily have you been using the new assistant? have you done anything to customize your settings like turn off always listening or anything like that, adaptive screen brightness, etc?
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Right now, no tweaks everything turned on (assistant, always listening, Bluetooth, wifi).
Mostly web browsing. 15 minutes or so of Clash Royale. On wifi most of the day. Auto brightness.
Looks like about 6h SOT if I took it to empty.
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Hey guys
I've had my Sony Xperia Z3 for just over a year now and im considering my next phone purchase. I really enticed by purchasing a S6 Edge+ HOWEVER battery life is the only thing stopping me.
The Z3 battery life easily lasts for two days without me ever worrying about the battery life. I know Lollipop has a mobile radio bug in it which would effect the edge plus but im wondering would two days use ever be possible on the Edge+? I normally get around 6 hours SOT over two days with my Z3 and don't want to be let down too much with my next phone.
I have the same situation... just came from a Z3. Got my edge+ a week ago and, tbh, batt life is way worse, but I am starting to think that I have a faulty cellphone. I am getting around 10h of batt, even after debloating it and using Pixel OFF.
otoh, there are lots of threads running right now, discussing batt life and most people say that it is pretty good.
It's been 5 nights and I complsin it drains 1% per hour.
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It's been 5 nights and I complsin it drains 1% per hour.
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That´s exactly what I am getting. Are you using Pixel OFF?
Edit: sorry, wrong math. I am getting 10% an hour. I am getting 10h of batt per day on avg 1% an hour would be wonderland for me.
Hold on, I am talking about overnight drain, when phone is idle for 6 hours, screen off, only side clock, 4g wifi location sync on
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Hold on, I am talking about overnight drain, when phone is idle for 6 hours, screen off, only side clock, 4g wifi location sync on
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Hmm so you basically only get a day's use of the phone on average?
It depends how I use it...
Can't tell as my usage is not regular
For sure not 10% per hour with a normal use
But I'm 90% debloated
i find it good, im not yet rooted but after i am whenever i can manage to actually do it i estimate it will be even better, but in general it's all about your usage, you'll definitely get a day out of medium/heavy usage.
do yourself a favor and buy a Aukey plus, ultra fast charging.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...2SPKLEEES7UMQ&psc=1&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
Not good
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I also had Z3 and lasting morning to evening looks pretty much the same, on both i was getting around 5-6h SOT. But considering 2 days Z3 will also give around 5h+ SOT, but Edge+ idk maybe around 3-4h because of how much standby drains the battery.
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I also had Z3 and lasting morning to evening looks pretty much the same, on both i was getting around 5-6h SOT. But considering 2 days Z3 will also give around 5h+ SOT, but Edge+ idk maybe around 3-4h because of how much standby drains the battery.
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I think the biggest idle killer is the mobile radio bug in lollipop, as there is no KK for the S6 Edge plus, looks like im going to stick with the Z3 for now till Marshmellow comes out.
I have more than 5 hours sot and almost 2 days without charging and 19% left. I''m very satisfied. Stock and root is pretty the same.
WhatsApp, candy crush, Internet, YouTube and more of that stuff. Imo no need to worry about battery.
2 days for me too. Wifi on all the time, Screen contrast automatic, Bluetouth off all the time (I don't use it for the moment), Some settings here and there I found in various articles (like smart network off, I use the RAM tools to automatically shot-down most of the apps...)
One day
One day ( 16 hours , By night battery down to 10 %)with normal usage. SOT around 5 hours.
BT off all time. 4g around 7 hours , Rest on Wifi.
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I have more than 5 hours sot and almost 2 days without charging and 19% left. I''m very satisfied. Stock and root is pretty the same.
WhatsApp, candy crush, Internet, YouTube and more of that stuff. Imo no need to worry about battery.
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Wow really? im shocked i havent read that was possible in any reviews i've seen. Could you provide screenshots of your battery stats? If two days is realistic and easy to achieve then i may possible jump to the Edge plus boat.
Mine wont even last 6 hours without draining. Bluetooth on, 4G on, backlight on auto. What's the point in having a high tech phone if you stunt it's features? I just charge at least twice or thrice a day but admittedly, I do miss the battery life of my last phone (iphone 6 plus) coz it really could last a whole day with the same features on.
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Wow really? im shocked i havent read that was possible in any reviews i've seen. Could you provide screenshots of your battery stats? If two days is realistic and easy to achieve then i may possible jump to the Edge plus boat.
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This was stock, first charge. Drain is very low
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63297358&postcount=153
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i find it good, im not yet rooted but after i am whenever i can manage to actually do it i estimate it will be even better, but in general it's all about your usage, you'll definitely get a day out of medium/heavy usage.
do yourself a favor and buy a Aukey plus, ultra fast charging.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...2SPKLEEES7UMQ&psc=1&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
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what is the difference between the Aukey charger and the original charger that came with phone? did you also use their car fast charger?
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what is the difference between the Aukey charger and the original charger that came with phone? did you also use their car fast charger?
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the original charger isnt anywhere near as fast as charging as the Aukey is, even thge usb cable that came with the Aukey is better than the one that came with the phone.
I dont think i will ever see 2 days. I use Bluetooth all day (synced to my Gear S), GPS is always on, autobrightness, etc. I can get through one day for sure, maybe half of the next day, but thats about it. Thats not using any kind of powersaving modes either. Its as good, or better than my note 4 with NONE of the damn problems (camera and HORRIBLE GPS), so i'll take it. Plus i have quick chargers everywhere...home, car, and an extra one.
I was very nervous switching to a sealed battery and no SD card support, but the 64gb is fine and the battery charges SUPER f'in quick
No real life review thread on this one yet, so let's get the ball rolling on this. Any Telstra customers with their device have anything to say on this?
I haven't felt the need to charge mine yet. Because I don't have one.
And no one still share his battery life...
Can you share with us guys? Like guys with Pixel XL did
So, i'm gonna give it a go.
I am really satisfied with the battery life after three days of being a daily driver.
After my day of work it has 31% left with google assistant/now, 70% WiFi 30% LTE, Bluetooth always on, auto adjust brightness 3.56 hours display time, most of the time i used chrome.
No pics because i don't know to add them via mobile browser.
For now: much better than my old nex5 and OnePlusX.
I like!
I just got mine today and fully charged it and then synced my n5x, rebooted and it was down to 90%. Highly intensive processing so I'll not judge by that. Did some more setup, charged again. Phone call for about 30 min, down to 95%. Not bad but not great. It's way too early for me to make a determination as some here have been running it for 3 days with better results.
I'll either update this post or make a new one depending on traffic. Overnight will tell me a lot. I've been getting about 0.5% - 0.8% / hour drain overnight on my 5x so let's see how this one does. One thing I will say is that the phone is beautiful, great size, great feel. great display and quick as a bug. If the battery holds up it's a definite keeper for sure. If any of you have an iPhone 6 or 6s, put them side by side and I dare you to tell them apart. lol.
There is another thread on this but my battery is abysmsl
Google Play services battery drain. No unusual apps, pretty much out of the box because its getting replaced already due to screen issues. Not sure why...
I have really high android OS usage, but still get great battery life. 4 hours SOT, 16 hours usage. Will be interesting to see what i can get when I find the cause of this Android OS drain
Phone calls kill me but otherwise not looking too bad.
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The phone lasts me the entire day, but by the end of the day its pretty close to dying out.
So not as good as my S7 Edge, or even close, however it's good enough.
I charge my phone every night, anyways, so doesn't really bother me.
I was less than impressed to be honest. I'll know more when I actually spend a few days with it out and in use.
I must not use my phone all that much. So far, extremely better battery than my iPhone 5s. I guess it is a doubling in mAh but also a bigger screen. I am happy with it so far.
Definitely doesn't charge to 70% in 15 minutes though like they bragged about.
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I must not use my phone all that much. So far, extremely better battery than my iPhone 5s. I guess it is a doubling in mAh but also a bigger screen. I am happy with it so far.
Definitely doesn't charge to 70? in 15 minutes though like they bragged about.
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Well they said "7 hours of use" from 15 minutes of charging, whatever the hell that means lol.
Coming from a Galaxy S6 Edge I am very happy with my battery life. Currently I'm at 1 day 5 hrs with 2 hrs 5 min phone calls and 1 hr 47 min of screentime with about an hour of music in there....right now I have 28% left. I typically use my phone for browsing the web, chatting, work email and facebook so all in all I'm very pleased.
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I must not use my phone all that much. So far, extremely better battery than my iPhone 5s. I guess it is a doubling in mAh but also a bigger screen. I am happy with it so far.
Definitely doesn't charge to 70? in 15 minutes though like they bragged about.
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They never said that. They said 7 hours of use in 15 minutes.
I'm actually pretty happy with it so far. I have the regular Pixel and in my few full days of normal usage I'm getting through the day pretty easily. 8AM - 11PM or so leaves me with about 10% left on the phone, and usually approx 4.5 hours of screen on time. This is especially impressive to me since this is with GPS ON, Bluetooth ON, mostly on LTE with only "ok" reception in my office, auto-brightness set half way, everything syncing, connected to my gear fit 2. That's definitely better than I got on the 5x and way better than I was getting on my last phone - the galaxy s7. I was getting maybe at most 3.5 hours screen on time with the S7, and that was with GPS OFF, brightness set to around 30% or as low as I could set it and still see clearly, and even with a ROM that included battery optimizations (and yes it did seem to provide slightly more battery than stock).
So this is great thus far. If I were going out late or something after work then I would probably top it up, but otherwise this is the first time in awhile I haven't felt the compulsion to constantly plug in my phone when I get a chance for fear it will die on me. I also hope that this will only improve as development picks up and people release optimized ROMs/Kernels.
Can someone with good battery life compare this to what they get?
13 hours
at 64%
Android System 176mah
Android OS 156mah
Screen 1hr 15m (151mah)
Voice Calls 15m (88mah)
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They never said that. They said 7 hours of use in 15 minutes.
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They did actually at their reveal, I watched
"which Google said can deliver up to 70 percent in after 15 minutes on a charger."
Source: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/google-pixel-news/#/11
Overall I'm really satisfied with the battery. after a night and day of heavy use, games, browsing, installing apps I'm still at 20%. Hardly any power drained in standby.
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Battery has been pretty good for me so far. Seems to be settling in with optimization after a few days. Dropped 0% overnight last night which is awesome.
GSAM Monitor is saying my average is 19 hrs on, 4.5 hours of screen on time usage, 1-2 hours of screen off usage like phone calls, music.
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Google Pixel 3 XL before depleting the battery.
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I've been on wifi most of the day. I took my phone off of the charger at about 610 this morning. I'd say it's pretty good so far.
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I've been on wifi most of the day. I took my phone off of the charger at about 610 this morning. I'd say it's pretty good so far.
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Forgot to attach the picture.
I should've saved a screenshot last night, but I had just over 6 hours SOT with 16 hours off of the charger. That's with moderate use throughout the day with heavy use at night. I know “picture or it didn't happen". I will definitely take a screenshot at the end of the day to compare.
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I sure hope that includes doing some kind of battery intense task like playing games otherwise that's pretty unimpressive. When my Pixel 2 XL was brand new 5 hours screen on time during non-battery intense things like browsing on wifi I could easily get that same 5 hours screen on time with 16 hours off the charger and still be at like 40-45%. It looks like the combination of bigger screen, higher resolution and smaller battery really makes a noticeable difference. Even more than I expected.
This is with mostly browsing and YouTube. I usually have more usage later at night. I also played a little Elder Scrolls Legends, which is very much a battery draining game.
As I do more testing, it appears this phone drains faster than the XL2 in both scenarios. I'll keep testing and post screenshots. I'm hesitant to return my XL2 as a trade-in.
I forgot to plug up last night so this morning I decided top just ride it out and see what I can get as far as screen time. I was thinking of starting a "Battery Life" thread, but no need since I am sure this one will suffice. My time included about 3 or so hours of music using Poweramp and other browsing and chatting and a few downloads. Bluetooth and WiFi on throughout the entire time.
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black amoled everything. apps. wallpaper. aw yissss. charged upto 80%, used it nonstop at uni bc my exams tomorrow and what else would i do but procrastinate?
wifi/data on all day.
Very solid battery life!
Really happy with this.
Very mediocre battery life!
I find that the battery doesn't last quite as long as my pixel xl.... Probably due to the fact that the screen isn't as bright so I have to keep it on max brightness during the day. Didn't have the screen issue on my pixel xl though.
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As I do more testing, it appears this phone drains faster than the XL2 in both scenarios. I'll keep testing and post screenshots. I'm hesitant to return my XL2 as a trade-in.
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A week and a bit with my brand new 3 XL and I have the same observations too. My 2 XL seemed to have less idle battery drain. Both phones have been rooted & running their latest respective ElementalX kernels.
Have been having a few nagging issues with the 3 XL too which I never experienced with the 2 XL. It refused to connect to my car bluetooth the other morning until I restarted the phone, and the lockscreen screen on/off animations are painfully slow and laggy 80% of the time too...
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Very solid battery life!
Really happy with this.
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how though, my best from 100-50 was somewhat 2 hrs and 50 mins
Ever since I received a replacement , I've been getting really good battery life. The one I had before had very poor battery and standby wasn't good either
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I'm pretty impressed.
I have the pixel 3 and SoT is about 3.5-4hrs and I had read a lot that it was better than the p3xl.
I got the p3xl on Tuesday, battery was kinda weird some days but today I am super impressed. Hardly used wifi as well and always has gps on.
After DEc update, my battery sucks.
Now I only get 3-4hrs.
I had 10 % battery drain last night. The phone was face down so the AOD was off for 7 hours . Is that normal
Pretty good battery life here. No root, no battery saving action, all stock.
Usually I get 7,5h sot.
Really quite disappointed with the battery life, tbh.
I had a P20 Pro until a few weeks ago - I know that's a massive battery but the Pixel 3 XL doesn't even come close. I get maybe 4hrs SOT.
Most disappointing though is the drain when idle - seems to lose about 2% an hour. With the P20 Pro I could leave it off charge overnight and it would only lose about 2% in total.
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8 hours 30 minutes, not bad. And it seems like this is on 90hz.
https://youtu.be/gLXO-jeJlTQ
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8 hours 30 minutes, not bad. And it seems like this is on 90hz.
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Dream on. No way is there 8 hours on screen time in real life usage
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8 hours 30 minutes, not bad. And it seems like this is on 90hz.
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While I don't believe you would get that amount of SOT over a prolonged period, it does point out that raw mah isn't everything.
I agree it won't get that much in real life. I am curious however how the SOT will be for people that will not use the radar, no AOD and possibly even no face unlock, stay on 60hz and just want a great camera, good speed and latest assistant and have the best Google ecosystem experience. I am that kind of user.
I looked at the 3axl but it is noticeably slow and I need a fast phone for different work needs.
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I agree it won't get that much in real life. I am curious however how the SOT will be for people that will not use the radar, no AOD and possibly even no face unlock, stay on 60hz and just want a great camera, good speed and latest assistant and have the best Google ecosystem experience. I am that kind of user.
I looked at the 3axl but it is noticeably slow and I need a fast phone for different work needs.
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no doubt, those conditions that you just stated should save a substantial amount of battery life. My 6T is 3700mah and I get around 6-8hrs sot(depending on usage) no reason to think the pixel can't achieve that with superior software.
Got the phone yesterday, charged all the way up before turning on at about 5pm. Went to bed about midnight. Galaxy S2 watch connected around 7 pm. Did setup, some netflix, and typical messing around with a new phone. Didn't screen shot it, but when I was going to bed last night, I had 4h03M SOT with 47% left. I don't expect it to translate to 7hrs or anything, but it seems better than my previous Note 9 and S8+.
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Got the phone yesterday, charged all the way up before turning on at about 5pm. Went to bed about midnight. Galaxy S2 watch connected around 7 pm. Did setup, some netflix, and typical messing around with a new phone. Didn't screen shot it, but when I was going to bed last night, I had 4h03M SOT with 47% left. I don't expect it to translate to 7hrs or anything, but it seems better than my previous Note 9 and S8+.
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Roger that on the N9! My wife's N9 looses a minimum of 10% overnight at idle. Shoot, my Chevy suburban with 6 people going uphill at 75mph gets better mileage! ???
I got the phone yesterday and charged it too 100% and my screen on time was 6hrs 5 Mon with 9% left. I don't get why the negative battery comments and reviews so far. 6 hours is more than enough.
First cycle with dynamic 90hz no point of forcing always to 90hz. Most social media apps. Tg and duo suck a lot of battery.
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First cycle with dynamic 90hz no point of forcing always to 90hz. Most social media apps. Tg and duo suck a lot of battery.
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How was the duo quality for you and the other person?
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How was the duo quality for you and the other person?
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Lol ? it was alright when they were on data and it improved when connected to WiFi
The battery is not that bad... here are my screenshots. I am not a gaming person but I usually was surfing the internet, Facebook, etc... and use message app and did use the camera. I turned motion sense off since I am Deaf so I can't hear the music and my hands are getting tired from wave and wave.
sorry for bad grammar.
Good. Maybe the haters will STFU now
Got my 4XL yesterday and it was at 60% out of the box. I used it like normal and with more than 3hr 30min of screen on-time it was at 24%. I don't think it will be that bad.
2nd cycle I guess since it's under 75% it was at 60hz didn't notice any difference screen still very smooth.
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... since it's under 75% it was at 60hz...
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I believe they meant the screen brightness was under 75%. When it is, the screen only runs at 60hz.
So I've had the Pixel 4 XL , for 3 full days in the UK now.
Day 1 SOT was 6 hrs 3 mins with 9% left
Day 2 SOT was 6 hrs 15 min with 4 % left
Day 3 SOT is 5 hrs 1 min with 18% left.
The battery is more than adequate. I had the 3 XL which would get a max of just over 4 hours. I'm new.to the forum but I have screenshots as well but don't have a clue how to upload lol. The phone is on 90hz at all times too But most times you can't really tell. It's an amazing phone so fast, the disappointment is video quality again and some of the pic quality is similar levels to 3 XL but I need to fully utilise the camera.
I got similar SOT with 6 hr 12 min and 9% battery left. This with using "force" 90hz , 87% brightness , and always on display (thought it was not always on!). Battery is more than adequate for my usage.
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the 's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
My phone stays in my pocket quite a bit, but I'm apparently getting phenomenally better battery life than most (certainly the folks reviewing it). Even if I pull it out to watch a 3 hr hockey game while I'm at work, when it's not out and in my face it'll last for over a day easy. I stream music over a Bluetooth speaker a lot and still, nah. Again though, my screen on time is prob a lot less than most and I plug it in for the android auto on my 30 min commute. It's better than my 2xl was and I need to plug it in far less than my iFriends
I was having many issues at first, including battery drain overnight, but not to be dismayed by the lack of support from (well you know) tech companies (ahem), as always, I relied on the superior knowledge at a place called "xda" (you may have heard of them), after doing a factory reset and starting over (yeeeeaaaahhh), I now have the phone I thought I was buying, so thanks to the many knowledgeable people, developers, rom writers, etc., on this forum. Of course in my opinion , anyone who owns an android device should be required to spend a minimum of 100 hours reading on this site, even if they have no intention of rooting, or well whatever. As for the issue at hand, I used a little over 13% now after a little more than a day, including overnight no use time, obviously Im a lite user compared to some, but my trusty nexus 6 (5 year old) battery had seen its better days.
N0T3chW1z said:
I was having many issues at first, including battery drain overnight, but not to be dismayed by the lack of support from (well you know) tech companies (ahem), as always, I relied on the superior knowledge at a place called "xda" (you may have heard of them), after doing a factory reset and starting over (yeeeeaaaahhh), I now have the phone I thought I was buying, so thanks to the many knowledgeable people, developers, rom writers, etc., on this forum. Of course in my opinion , anyone who owns an android device should be required to spend a minimum of 100 hours reading on this site, even if they have no intention of rooting, or well whatever. As for the issue at hand, I used a little over 13% now after a little more than a day, including overnight no use time, obviously Im a lite user compared to some, but my trusty nexus 6 (5 year old) battery had seen its better days.
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Care to elaborate? Did you root? Custom kernel? I'm still on the fence, but only because of google pay. I know there are ways to achieve this even rooted, but still...
Ever had a massive technical problem, and after searching the net for an insane amount of time, you finally find a lost soul having the same issue? Isn't it kind of frustrating when there is only a "Solved it!!!" with no obvious solution?
Just saying. If you solved your issue it would be great to show us how. Maybe there is someone out there having similar problems. You never know.
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Care to elaborate? Did you root? Custom kernel? I'm still on the fence, but only because of google pay. I know there are ways to achieve this even rooted, but still...
Ever had a massive technical problem, and after searching the net for an insane amount of time, you finally find a lost soul having the same issue? Isn't it kind of frustrating when there is only a "Solved it!!!" with no obvious solution?
Just saying. If you solved your issue it would be great to show us how. Maybe there is someone out there having similar problems. You never know.
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Honestly it seems to vary user by user. Depends on the apps you have installed, whether you restrict their battery use, turn off notifications, etc. etc.
If you use social media apps, strongly suggest you manually restrict their battery use and turn off notifications. Other phones that have amazing battery life (Huawei for example) do this for you, they aggressively restrict apps, but Google doesn't.. Makes a massive difference. Made a huge difference for me. I went from 10%+ battery drain overnight to about 2%. Same during the workday. The battery drain is hugely improved when it's in my pocket or on the desk through the day.
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Honestly it seems to vary user by user. Depends on the apps you have installed, whether you restrict their battery use, turn off notifications, etc. etc.
If you use social media apps, strongly suggest you manually restrict their battery use and turn off notifications. Other phones that have amazing battery life (Huawei for example) do this for you, they aggressively restrict apps, but Google doesn't.. Makes a massive difference. Made a huge difference for me. I went from 10%+ battery drain overnight to about 2%. Same during the workday. The battery drain is hugely improved when it's in my pocket or on the desk through the day.
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I've had my Pixel 4 XL for just over a week. Biggest ROI in terms of battery life for me has been turning off Bluetooth Scanning under location settings. I also turned off Always On Display (but I may start testing with those options as I had done that before turning off Bluetooth scanning). Motion Sense, Smooth Display, etc...are all on and working great. I'm at 13% active drain / 1.7% idle drain and my phone goes to Deep Sleep as I would expect. Not finding a need to limit my usage or worry about it...getting 22-24 hours of projected life a day, not charging during the day and not worrying about it. 4-5 hours of screen on time. I'm happy....my Pixel XL was struggling to get through a full day and I had been using various battery packs as needed to allow it to limp along. Really happy so far. I haven't unlocked bootloader or rooted yet....but may head down that path if needed. (Google Store Unlocked version on Verizon)
Edit: Forgot to mention I also disabled Digital Wellbeing and I believe that helped as well.
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Care to elaborate? Did you root? Custom kernel? I'm still on the fence, but only because of google pay. I know there are ways to achieve this even rooted, but still...
Ever had a massive technical problem, and after searching the net for an insane amount of time, you finally find a lost soul having the same issue? Isn't it kind of frustrating when there is only a "Solved it!!!" with no obvious solution?
Just saying. If you solved your issue it would be great to show us how. Maybe there is someone out there having similar problems. You never know.
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Mostly nothing was working correctly, the transfer data didnt work, the battery was draining as fast as my old nexus 6 (the reason I decided it was time to get a new phone), couldnt get it to connect to my wifi without turning off security and allowing a first ip address (tech support cant understand that concept), receiving double notifications, fi switch app would take me to the dialer no matter what I pushed, like settings. It was an absolute total mess. I rooted my nexus 6P with Pixel Experience (how awsome is that thank you devs), and fi switch was normal. Thats why I did the factory reset, wiping everything and starting new. Still had to turn off security in wifi till I got it set up, but everything else has gone to normal like it suppose to. Dont like a lot of google stuff, still turning off whatever I can, limit as many sharing and app allowances as possible (dont send stats) only use Bluetooth as needed.
Nexus 6 rooted stock with TWRP (thank you TWRP people)
Nexus 6P rooted Pixel Experience and TWRP
Pixel 4xl not rooted stock rom and recovery
Im still a newbie compared to the great ones who have a presence here, Thats why I read the how to for rooting probably without exaggerating 20 times,
I also read thru the forums completely to find how others get fixed, wish I was knowledgeable enough to help others, maybe some day :laugh:
Thanks for the feedback! I really never thought about it this way. My Samsung phones did restrict different apps really fast. That Google does not force this in the same manner never crossed my mind. Also with bluetooth scanning. I had that turned on the whole time, just because i honestly forgot it was there. Same goes with wifi scanning i guess. Will try these out.
I will keep staying unrooted for the time being.
Seems like maybe a launch quirk?
My Pixel 2 XL pulled 3 days 20 hours of projected use after a year of use.
My Pixel 4 XL is pulling just under one day.
I did not copy my device over, I have a fresh install. Wifi and Bluetooth scanning disabled (but really it's 2019, nearly 2020, this shouldn't be an issue)
However, my Pixel 4 XL seems to have had a significant boost to longevity after the December feature update.
Hi there
I have a battery drain at night (sleep 8h) at about 6-7%. Not too much, not little. I remember my pixel 3's drain at night was 3&4.
Stanby drain is an issue on pixel 4 I think.
What about yours ?
If it helps anyone: in the google assistant settings - Open the Settings app > Google > Account Services > Search, Assistant & Voice > Google Assistant - there is a possibility of battery usage "unseen?" in different settings - I had the recognize music going and on the good side it accurately found every tune that played on the radio while I was driving, the downside is it used a lot of battery, you can make a "quicky icon" for the home screen should you so desire, to make it off/on/off easier.
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Seems like maybe a launch quirk?
My Pixel 2 XL pulled 3 days 20 hours of projected use after a year of use.
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What!? And you were actually using the phone? LOL. I got a 4 days 15 hours estimate with my 2 year Pixel 2 XL and that was from not using it at all because I got the Pixel 4 XL. Haha. Had only 26 minutes of SOT.
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Hi there
I have a battery drain at night (sleep 8h) at about 6-7%. Not too much, not little. I remember my pixel 3's drain at night was 3&4.
Stanby drain is an issue on pixel 4 I think.
What about yours ?
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That's really not bad at all. Less than 1% an hour standby drain isn't terrible. Especially with the active display.
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That's really not bad at all. Less than 1% an hour standby drain isn't terrible. Especially with the active display.
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I don't own a Pixel 4 XL but my understanding is that Always On Display isn't really "always on" on the Pixel 4 XL. It's only on when it detects your presence. A 1% per hour drain with AOD actually being on the entire time would be incredible. A 1% per hour drain with AOD off would be terrible.
Just for comparison when my Pixel 2 XL was new it drained at about 3% over 9 hours (0.333% per hour) with AOD off and about 13% over 9 hours (1.444% per hour) with AOD on. With a 2 generations newer processor and 5% bigger battery I would expect the Pixel 4 XL to be better.
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I don't own a Pixel 4 XL but my understanding is that Always On Display isn't really "always on" on the Pixel 4 XL. It's only on when it detects your presence. A 1% per hour drain with AOD actually being on the entire time would be incredible. A 1% per hour drain with AOD off would be terrible.
Just for comparison when my Pixel 2 XL was new it drained at about 3% over 9 hours (0.333% per hour) with AOD off and about 13% over 9 hours (1.444% per hour) with AOD on. With a 2 generations newer processor and 5% bigger battery I would expect the Pixel 4 XL to be better.
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Pixel 4 does have Always On...detecting presence is another option....
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I don't own a Pixel 4 XL but my understanding is that Always On Display isn't really "always on" on the Pixel 4 XL. It's only on when it detects your presence. A 1% per hour drain with AOD actually being on the entire time would be incredible. A 1% per hour drain with AOD off would be terrible.
Just for comparison when my Pixel 2 XL was new it drained at about 3% over 9 hours (0.333% per hour) with AOD off and about 13% over 9 hours (1.444% per hour) with AOD on. With a 2 generations newer processor and 5% bigger battery I would expect the Pixel 4 XL to be better.
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Correct, but anywhere near the phone with movement and it triggers it. If its sitting next to you on a table, high chance its going to be on most of the time just from general movement. Now, if you sit it on your desk on the other side of the room, no, its not going to show unless you have it checked to show all the time.
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I don't own a Pixel 4 XL but my understanding is that Always On Display isn't really "always on" on the Pixel 4 XL. It's only on when it detects your presence. A 1% per hour drain with AOD actually being on the entire time would be incredible. A 1% per hour drain with AOD off would be terrible.
Just for comparison when my Pixel 2 XL was new it drained at about 3% over 9 hours (0.333% per hour) with AOD off and about 13% over 9 hours (1.444% per hour) with AOD on. With a 2 generations newer processor and 5% bigger battery I would expect the Pixel 4 XL to be better.
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Also, this highly depends what you have set for notifications from apps. Like if email is push or set to refresh on a time schedule, etc. There is so much that goes into this ****. Is it on LTE or Wifi? Cant just make huge blanket statements.
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I don't own a Pixel 4 XL but my understanding is that Always On Display isn't really "always on" on the Pixel 4 XL. It's only on when it detects your presence. A 1% per hour drain with AOD actually being on the entire time would be incredible. A 1% per hour drain with AOD off would be terrible.
Just for comparison when my Pixel 2 XL was new it drained at about 3% over 9 hours (0.333% per hour) with AOD off and about 13% over 9 hours (1.444% per hour) with AOD on. With a 2 generations newer processor and 5% bigger battery I would expect the Pixel 4 XL to be better.
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You are correct, however if you use the feature that turns AOD off when you're away, you then have the radar running in the background 100% of the time waiting for you to get in range of the phone to turn AOD on. So it's still great. My 4 XL uses between 0-1% overnight. I'm not sure if AOD is on all night, but it IS on when I am lying there. If you're lying or sitting anywhere near the phone (10 ft or so) with any kind of movement at all, it is on. So is the radar. Factoring that in it's pretty incredible. This thing just sips battery now that it's good and settled in. Same with SOT. it's gone from average/slightly below to excellent.
That said, for the first week or so mine was draining 5% or slightly more overnight. It got better and better over the first few weeks until this point. Now it's brilliant. That's the part that I don't like about reviewers doing hot takes on these things, just reviewing specs on paper rather than the phone itself. Until you've used it for a few weeks-one month, you have no idea how any phone will actually perform long term rendering 98% of the reviews on YouTube completely useless.
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That's the part that I don't like about reviewers doing hot takes on these things, just reviewing specs on paper rather than the phone itself. Until you've used it for a few weeks-one month, you have no idea how any phone will actually perform long term rendering 98% of the reviews on YouTube completely useless.
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A lot of the legit reviews have used the phone for a week or more and others have done a one month later as well. The phone is okay and maybe good at best with battery but it's still a good 1.5 to 2 hours less SOT and many hours less than my Pixel 2 XL was in the same first 7 weeks.
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A lot of the legit reviews have used the phone for a week or more and others have done a one month later as well. The phone is okay and maybe good at best with battery but it's still a good 1.5 to 2 hours less SOT and many hours less than my Pixel 2 XL was in the same first 7 weeks.
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Unfortunately there are precious few legit reviewers, none of the big channels actually do proper reviews. They get the phone a week or two before launch, they spend a day or two with it seldom if ever popping their SIM in, admit they carry more than one phone and drop a 10 minute spec review the moment the embargo lifts. That's not a review. That's a listing of specs and opinion based on specs combined with 10 minutes of footage showing the design. Unfortunately what those folks don't know could fill a warehouse. These are the same people that dismissed wide angle lenses as a gimmick but now that Samsung and Apple have it any phone without it is trash. Or crying about the fingerprint sensor, the "ultimate" in security being gone, when it can be used with a person asleep just like face unlock (though face unlock can be fixed, print readers cannot.). They're just worse than useless when it comes to info on devices.
The statements of bad battery life are patently false. I can't force this phone to get less than 5 hours SOT. Interestingly, reviewers that have actually used the phone directly contradict them. Objectively it's good to great (the XL anyway). I haven't seen a single month in review from a person that's ACTUALLY daily driven the device as their sole phone for a month getting anything less than 5.5 hours SOT with most averaging closer to 6. I'd wager 24 hours per charge with 5-6 hours SOT would be perfectly fine for most people. Picking the phone back up off the shelf and using it again for another 24 hours after an update or two does not constitute a month in review. If they've taken their SIM out one time or used any other phone alongside as a "primary" their review is dismissed out of hand. Not just on the Pixel, but any phone.
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The statements of bad battery life are patently false. I can't force this phone to get less than 5 hours SOT. Interestingly, reviewers that have actually used the phone directly contradict them. Objectively it's good to great (the XL anyway). I haven't seen a single month in review from a person that's ACTUALLY daily driven the device as their sole phone for a month getting anything less than 5.5 hours SOT with most averaging closer to 6. I'd wager 24 hours per charge with 5-6 hours SOT would be perfectly fine for most people.
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If you're in a vacuum I guess that's great. However, when phones get either the same SOT but have more percentage left at the end of a day or can get 8+ hours off a single charge, the Pixel 4 XL is not great and average at best. I'm getting 4-5 hours SOT with an occasional 5.5 when I easily got 6-7 SOT and occasional 8 hours with the Pixel 2 XL. Again, reviewers put the same 1-2 weeks into a review and also see more SOT and battery percentage at the end of the day too. So you can't totally disregard their battery hate because they're putting the Pixel 4 XL on the same daily usage and time period as their other phone reviews.
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