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Looks like SE are releasing a new model based on the X10, the X8 (Code name Shakira).
Here's the link:
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=rev...how-its-face-but-specs-are-still-unknown&5526
Looks very nice, but a bit bulky...
they should rather focus on the problems of the old phones instead of producing new phones (and new unhappy consumers)
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they should rather focus on the problems of the old phones instead of producing new phones (and new unhappy consumers)
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Very True. I think they'll losing in touch with the original Xperia line. I mean, what ever happened to Johny X? (he was supposed to be continued with the next Xperia phone). Also, the Xperia X2? Really.... it seems like it never existed. I'm glad there is a strong community for the Xperia X10, and the X1, probably the only thing keeping both phones alive. But, with sony introducing the X10 mini, mini pro, and X8... They're becoming the next (old) HTC... or HP or something....
Hey guys!
I'm planning to buy a new phone in 2 weeks ..
I'm confused between these two .. Xperia Arc S and Sensation XL ..
Any recommendations or guidance from the users of these phones
What i like about the XL :
Massive 4.7" screen
Easier to touch-type
Beats audio
What i like about the Arc S :
Sharper screen (233 ppi) despite the small size (4.3"), comparing to the XL's 4.7" and (199 ppi)
The cool looks !
The upcoming official ICS will look great on the that phone
Both processors are fast .. 1.4 and 1.5
Taking into account that I lOVE the new ICS look and i'd love to have it on my next phone .. While i can only have it on the Arc S because of CM support .. And i don't know how to get that look on the Sensation XL because of the lack of suport and the too little ROMs availablity
By what you said, get Arc S, or wait a little more for Xperia S. Both will get ICS until june. Arc S is going to get stable CM9 soon, and I'm sure there will be some guys from FreeXperiaTeam (who work with CM in 2011 Xperia devices) working ASAP on Xperia S.
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You ask that question in an Xperia Arc forum? Are you dumb or something?
i had just pick up an arc a month ago..i just take it primarily because of it good looks other than that sony promise of official ice cream samndwish and a remote chance that the arc get Playstation store outside of japan..
but i don't see if both arc and sensation gonna be relevent by the 3rq quarters of this year.as i change phone every year, the arc fits the time frame..but if u wanna kept your phone lots longer, get a dual core
I'd say Arc S
Has a micro sd slot which the XL doesn't have.
If the XL had dualcore I'd go with that but it hasn't and 100Mhz are no difference.
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+1 to arcS... HTC is too expancive... What are you paying for? Half of inch? Wright question is arcS or Sensation XE... Dual core, great display, Beats Audio... And looks great to. I would prefer SE because I am a BIG fan of it... And you can go to the store, take both of them in yor hands and decide...
Seems like the Arc S is a winner for me. The charisma and charm of this phone is irresistible. However, I'm considering the upcoming Xperia S too .. Just Hoping it won't be too expensive
this HTC comes with a internal 16G memory and 768 MB ram - these are more critical factors for performance. correct me if i am wrong?
Ok, RAM is a big plus.
But for me the 16GB non-expandable memory (?) are too less, so no-go. I have ~23GB on my phone.
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Arc S - easy choice for me.. the Sensation XL is a big ugly brick!.. or if you want to wait till end of March - Xperia S - I'd wait!
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Arc S - easy choice for me.. the Sensation XL is a big ugly brick!.. or if you want to wait till end of March - Xperia S - I'd wait!
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That's exactly what I'm planning for
Go for galaxy s2
Its the best!(till now)
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Go for galaxy s2
Its the best!(till now)
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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I read somewhere, and it has been an "aaaaah yeah..." moment for me,
that we shouldn't compare SE phones with Samsung and HTC phones.
They are not at all about the hardware or the Android version.
They fill in the gap between the people who are hardcore users and spec enthusiasts and those who have no idea about smartphones.
They are targetting people who are OK with having a really beautiful phone, advanced camera function and good hardware, not necessarily top-of-the-top.
And even though XDA forums are normally not a place for such people, you can't deny the very existense of such target group.
Seeing it like this, you can understand why they haven't joined the hardware race that Samsung and HTC are running atm.
tomo100brt said:
Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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Yes until the gs3 comes out then once again samsung goes back on top
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iridaki said:
I read somewhere, and it has been an "aaaaah yeah..." moment for me,
that we shouldn't compare SE phones with Samsung and HTC phones.
They are not at all about the hardware or the Android version.
They fill in the gap between the people who are hardcore users and spec enthusiasts and those who have no idea about smartphones.
They are targetting people who are OK with having a really beautiful phone, advanced camera function and good hardware, not necessarily top-of-the-top.
And even though XDA forums are normally not a place for such people, you can't deny the very existense of such target group.
Seeing it like this, you can understand why they haven't joined the hardware race that Samsung and HTC are running atm.
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Thumbs up, dude
I'd wait for the new line. but if you're in haste i'd take Arc S or Galaxy Note depending on the price ofcourse.
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I'd wait for the new line. but if you're in haste i'd take Arc S or Galaxy Note depending on the price ofcourse.
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I was tempted by Note because of it's size and power etc. as I could eventually get one for free,
but this device is NOT impressive.
The screen - again - looks like oversaturated **** and the UI is actually disgusting.
I quit after 5 minutes of playing with it.
BTW the performance when just fiddling with it was actually mediocre.
Xperia S is worth wait, as far I have seen after AOSP Sony has one of the best UI and they aren't in the race for great hardware spec like other which just made Dual core devices without software support for it. Sony waited to release dual core when it's necessary i.e. As far as I know ICS is optimized for Dual core. So when they started rolling out ICS update they started to make dual core devices. But if you looking to brag about the spec then sure go for SGS 3 that might out
My 2 cents
http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a.../sony-admits-our-phones-can-t-compete-1113159
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http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a.../sony-admits-our-phones-can-t-compete-1113159
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its poor to admit such things publicly , each phone has their own advantage.
s3- fast and cutting edge features
iphone - reliable
nexus - google experience
sony - best looking phones
Off course it can't compete right now without a single handset 100% Sony.
What we have available is Sony Ericsson's devices with Sony brand.
Next year will be the year.
I really need a decent display with a lot of power under the hood.
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its poor to admit such things publicly , each phone has their own advantage.
s3- fast and cutting edge features
iphone - reliable
nexus - google experience
sony - best looking phones
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You spelt "totally locked up and uncustomisable" wrongly.
They might not compete with iphone5 or Galaxy S3 but not all people are looking for these high-end phones. Not everybody are flashaolic nerds like me. I know a lot of people who still use their phone as a.... PHONE!!! In this category Sony is still a good choice for a phone.(Even I never owned one)
I agree Sony is by far the best looking and best screen android phone, but the miss some points like locked bootloaders and not so good cameras.
I had a xperia s and the device from specs was very nice, from specs I would prefer it as the S3 processor beast. But then with the use you miss important things like USB on the go (not workink but promised) and the 12 mp cam was a piece of SH....
If that happens, maybe Sony will take Samsung's place. Sony devices are in fact, powerful with great support (Also AOSP)
And the system is 200% cleaner than TouchWiz.
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You spelt "totally locked up and uncustomisable" wrongly.
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hahahaha....
very well said...witty and true! :laugh:
I dont really know.....they should make phone to rival sgs4 or iphone 5s/6....its nonsense to rival sgs3 (when its going to be year old flagship)...it is still going to sell well, but still...everybody says how sucky samsung devs are....but idk, they gave us some sweet features-sony should follow that step, high end hw<good software, today in my opinion....
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I dont really know.....they should make phone to rival sgs4 or iphone 5s/6....its nonsense to rival sgs3 (when its going to be year old flagship)...it is still going to sell well, but still...everybody says how sucky samsung devs are....but idk, they gave us some sweet features-sony should follow that step, high end hw<good software, today in my opinion....
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it's nonsense to rival iphone. Android doesn't rival, Android beats.
If I am not wrong (stopped stalking for latest releases after buying the S3), Sony still doesn't have a quad core flagship, so if you were indeed a Sony lover you would have already accepted the fact that right now they don't aim for specs (like Samsung does obviously) and like to provide a nice quality phone with decent price, specs and software (updates + aosp release). This is not at all a bad thing and I like where Sony are headed in the Android world.
Sony has cut back a lot, austerity for them due to a loose wallet subsidising blueray with the PS3. Imagine SGS3 costing 20% of its production costs
They hardly make anything themselves now. It's like Honda giving up and rebranding Kia's instead. Karma me thinks, for Sony Music being fascist psychopathic murdering scum
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its poor to admit such things publicly , each phone has their own advantage.
s3- fast and cutting edge features
iphone - reliable
nexus - google experience
sony - best looking phones
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Why does everyone use iphone and reliable in the same sentence? What's not reliable with an android phone? If anything, an iphone is much more unreliable (not hardware-wise, more like software-wise. Have you ever actually owned an iDevice in real life? If you did, you'd notice there are a lot more freezes and app crashes than with android.
Also, how can it be reliable if it doesn't even have proper multitasking?
Sony's 2013 top devices will have S4 PRO,5" 1080p screens,2gb RAM,water resistance,dragontrail glass,Exmor RS 16.2 mpx and 13mpx with third generation dual LED and the sexy look that only Sony know how to do...
But we just can wait with the best device in our hands right now.
If Sony really puts some weight behind these words, and they use the ST-Ericsson NovaThor SoCs next year, they will blow everything out of the water. The STE processors will be manufactured by Samsung, so they will have arguably the best mobile manufacturing process out there for the moment, while having the ImgTech G6xx0's GPUs which seem to look pretty unchallenged in performance.
Up until now all of Sony's devices were just outdated by a good more than half a year. In the mobile space where we basically have 1 year long product cycles, that's half of a product lifetime. The Xperia T is a nice phone, but at this point in time it's basically the same internal hardware as the One XL/S and NA S3's, which are 6+ months old. Don't get me started on the previous "flagships".
Let's hope they can deliver. They have the hardware available to do it.
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I agree Sony is by far the best looking and best screen android phone, but the miss some points like locked bootloaders and not so good cameras.
I had a xperia s and the device from specs was very nice, from specs I would prefer it as the S3 processor beast. But then with the use you miss important things like USB on the go (not workink but promised) and the 12 mp cam was a piece of SH....
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Funny you mention that Sony cameras are not so good when the SIII and Iphone 4s uses a Sony sensor.
http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/01/chipw...sung-galaxy-siii-sports-the-iphone-4s-camera/
Anyway, in the flagship they can´t compete, shure, but in the rest of the range, it has the best ones.
I currently have the SIII but below that Sony does better than Samnsung, in price/quality, at least in my country.
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Funny you mention that Sony cameras are not so good when the SIII and Iphone 4s uses a Sony sensor.
http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/01/chipw...sung-galaxy-siii-sports-the-iphone-4s-camera/
Anyway, in the flagship they can´t compete, shure, but in the rest of the range, it has the best ones.
I currently have the SIII but below that Sony does better than Samnsung, in price/quality, at least in my country.
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I can tell you that my xperia neo takes better photos then my s2 and my former xperia s. But not better then the s3. This was tested with the 4 phones in the same places and in same conditions. I m a sony fan. Allways had sony Ericsson phones. And tell you thay the xperia s is a great deception. I m not a great fan from samsung I had some y op devices and allqays had problems with them. But one I ensure you. S3 is by far better then any sony. Last I tell you if the xperia s had some features that it could have without problems, like otg usb, external sd, removable battery, and decent software for cam, I had prefere it has the s3.
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You spelt "totally locked up and uncustomisable" wrongly.
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thats another part of the story
I tried so hard analyzing but now at last I know their reasoning behind releasing Xperia S, Xperia P, Xperia U, Xperia Acro S, Xperia T, and whatever Xperia (ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ) phone they released this year. All along and all this time, those phones were meant to challenge Galaxy S2, HTC Sensation, iPhone4s and other phones from last year! What kind of mindset is that for a company? What have you become Sony? Argh!
The iPhone's implementation of panorama is a great example on why Apple are so good at creating user experiences for the lowest common denominator.
Yes, that's a nice way of saying it's made for stupid people. But making things for stupid people requires very smart ideas.
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...full-hd-screen-and-quad-core-processor-369016
So Sony has done it again n again! What is the meaning of coming out with 2 phones with similar specs that too in less that 3 months of time! Sony ,please where is 4.2.2? Please do provide updates first rather than coming out with multiple similar phones.. :crying:
So... its wrong for them to do this when every other manufacturer is doing this?
As I understand it, this is for Japanese markets only (specifically AU by KDDI), no indication that this is meant to be an international release.
What's wrong with you people?
Instead of getting worried and angry because a new phone comes, why don't you try to enjoy your phone?
The Xperia Z still looks sexier, and i don't think there will be any phone as sexy as the XZ for sometime
There is nothing wrong with the same phone different style...I love the Zs style muchhhh better anyway
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So... its wrong for them to do this when every other manufacturer is doing this?
As I understand it, this is for Japanese markets only (specifically AU by KDDI), no indication that this is meant to be an international release.
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Agreed they’re all as bad as each other. Look at Samsung they bring out the s4 everyone rushes out and buys it, then 1 month later the first picture of the S4 Active come out!
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s4-active-leaks-better-looking-than-the-s4-50011270/
Integrated TV anttena is only thing I feel UL is better than my XZ...
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So... we can forget about Android 4.3... 5.0... etc...
I prefer my xperia z:good:
This phone is a special model intended for legacy cdmaOne networks that have added LTE for data but haven't moved the voice traffic onto LTE yet.
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http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...full-hd-screen-and-quad-core-processor-369016
So Sony has done it again n again! What is the meaning of coming out with 2 phones with similar specs that too in less that 3 months of time! Sony ,please where is 4.2.2? Please do provide updates first rather than coming out with multiple similar phones.. :crying:
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Now I agree with someone elses comment about Sony being like HTC. Bad move because it hasn't helped HTC at all EVER!!!
Flooding the market with Many different models that a similar just confuses people, doesn't directly contribute to larger market share.
One great model and one or two of cheaper alternatives works extremely well. Look at Apple and Samsung, the two at the top by a long shot.
On the bright side so far it doesn't appear to have the next generation CPU
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Now I agree with someone elses comment about Sony being like HTC. Bad move because it hasn't helped HTC at all EVER!!!
Flooding the market with many different models just confuses people, doesn't directly contribute to larger market share.
One great model and one or two of cheaper alternatives works extremely well. Look at Apple and Samsung, the two at the top by a long shot.
On the bright side so far it doesn't appear to have the next generation CPU
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Uhh, Samsung actually disproves your theory. They flood the market with everything.
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Flooding in market with different model and spec actually give user more choices. I don't see any wrong with this.
Samsung did this brilliantly success.
Clearly just a side-grade (if not downgrade) from our Z. It's much uglier too. I'm surprised it doesn't even have snapdragon 600. I guess that's a relief though.
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The Xperia Z still looks sexier, and i don't think there will be any phone as sexy as the XZ for sometime
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ZL
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ZL
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ZL size with Z body...perfect match
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Uhh, Samsung actually disproves your theory. They flood the market with everything.
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Hahaha, true, but from a different angle. I just saw that the S4 has already shipped 10 Million units Today
Samsung releases gAlaxy s4 and then they ll release s4 pro, s4 plus, s4 minus ,mini, s4 Active, s4 inactive ,whatever day want..jus hopeless products
Sony ul doesnt seem to be less worthier than z in anyway..its one and d same. But only one in sony s products has got the name "the best of sony" "sony s flagship".
So chill out if any phones of sony beats xz then , the name "flagship" will be no more for xz.so no need to worry about our xz gettin outdated.
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ZL size with Z body...perfect match
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No because Z's body is too big
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Hahaha, true, but from a different angle. I just saw that the S4 has already shipped 10 Million units Today
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The reason why Samsung controls such a large portion of the Android market is not because of their top-end phones, but their low-end phones that are bought by a lot of people in poorer countries like China and India. That's partially the reason why adoption for ICS and JB each are lower than GB: most of the phones sold are low-end ones, as much as people hate to admit that.
Guyz i have a budget of 30K and options i made out are Nexus 4, Xperia Z/ZL or Samsung galaxy S4.
Can you give suggestions??
My requirement is : Music like Xperia phones, Camera sensor like Xperia phones, Display like AMOLED or S-LCD.
My last device was Xperia SP and it totally sucked. Pathetic display. Pathetic camera. Sold out after 10 days use!!!
You have a budget for a phone for 30.000 dollars?
Well anyway, since you want music like xperia and camera like xperia I think we have a winner.
If you don't want to go with the xperia you can always flash xperia albums + walkman on your s4 or nexus I think.
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No 30k means 30000 Indian Rs .... which is about 500 US$
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Guyz i have a budget of 30K and options i made out are Nexus 4, Xperia Z/ZL or Samsung galaxy S4.
Can you give suggestions??
My requirement is : Music like Xperia phones, Camera sensor like Xperia phones, Display like AMOLED or S-LCD.
My last device was Xperia SP and it totally sucked. Pathetic display. Pathetic camera. Sold out after 10 days use!!!
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I would say go for Nexus 4 for but obvious reasons because I own it.. Xperia Z is also a good option but DON'T GO for samsung crap S4.
Why not MOTO X??
No he refer indian money that is 500$
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I would say go for Nexus 4 for but obvious reasons because I own it.. Xperia Z is also a good option but DON'T GO for samsung crap S4.
Why not MOTO X??
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I would seriously wait for the Moto X. It's perfect as per my requirement but sadly india is one of the last countries to get nexus products. Nexus 4 came after one year of release and i think so will Moto X.
Xperia Z has pathetic display other wise its good too yeah.
shubham.12 said:
Guyz i have a budget of 30K and options i made out are Nexus 4, Xperia Z/ZL or Samsung galaxy S4.
Can you give suggestions??
My requirement is : Music like Xperia phones, Camera sensor like Xperia phones, Display like AMOLED or S-LCD.
My last device was Xperia SP and it totally sucked. Pathetic display. Pathetic camera. Sold out after 10 days use!!!
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I would wait for the next nexus device. It's going to be out soon and you will kicking your self for not waiting
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Shure xperia Z is awsome but sony abandon their flagships very quickly so i wouldnt go for it...from my own expireance i had Xperia S and Neo before..not much support from sony..nexus is always nexus
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Shure xperia Z is awsome but sony abandon their flagships very quickly so i wouldnt go for it...from my own expireance i had Xperia S and Neo before..not much support from sony..nexus is always nexus
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exactly.. xperia z/zl are going to be abandoned soon too. i think after this discussion i am going to wait for the Moto X.
thanks every1 !!
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exactly.. xperia z/zl are going to be abandoned soon too. i think after this discussion i am going to wait for the Moto X.
thanks every1 !!
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Is there any possibility of Motorola launching the phone elsewhere apart from the Americas? All blogs I read today specifically state that the phone will not be sold anywhere else.
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Is there any possibility of Motorola launching the phone elsewhere apart from the Americas? All blogs I read today specifically state that the phone will not be sold anywhere else.
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There was something about there being a cheaper version for international prepaid markets, though I doubt that that particular version will retain the customization options. Not to mention it will most definitely have weaker specs, which aren't really top of the line now too.
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There was something about there being a cheaper version for international prepaid markets, though I doubt that that particular version will retain the customization options. Not to mention it will most definitely have weaker specs, which aren't really top of the line now too.
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Weaker specs?? Are you serious?? How much weaker? like single core?? 1GB RAM?? less than 720p display???
What is the source of your info? These are standards dude. And Google Nexus devices have never been any less. Though i agree with you on customizations. There may be two or three basic color white or blacks anything.
And yeah i too have not heard of anywhere except America. But i guess Google is one brand that has evolved out of experimentation. It won't be same as it was with Nexus 4. Let's keep expectations down anyways *sighs*
Read it on droid life...
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Why would you get a moto x? It's a lot weaker than the Nexus 4 and comes with a older version of android and the bootloader is locked. If it's locked down anything like Verizon then good luck with custom rom and kernel development.
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