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We have the kernel source and aosp source for ICS (not JB)(obviously) so why hasn't anyone made an aosp Rom? It seems even other devices get AOSP roms a lot faster. Is there a problem with porting AOSP to the S3 phones in general (US VERSIONS) or does no dev really care for AOSP and is happy with TouchWiz? I don't know, and I'm just curious. Just to be clear, I'm not asking any devs to get on it or work on it or rush it, just pure curiosity. Thanks. Hoping some devs could reply to clear some things up.
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Can you wait ? Sheesh
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I don't even have my phone yet... *it is shipping as we speak*
If you have been reading. The devs are having to unravel a disgusting amount of code because the touch wiz is integrated with everything. We are running a %0 true android experience. It's going to take time. With all due respect if you can't wait do it yourself. Good luck.
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Give it time, the phone's barely out
Exactly. As much as I don't want to wait any linger and take my g nex back from my wife I think I'll stick it out. This phone is pretty damn sweet
Give it some time. As stated before the phone is barely even released.
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MacTheRipperr said:
If you have been reading. The devs are having to unravel a disgusting amount of code because the touch wiz is integrated with everything. We are running a %0 true android experience. It's going to take time. With all due respect if you can't wait do it yourself. Good luck.
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Yeah I get that it's running touchwiz which is like you said basically a 0% true android experience but wouldn't you just be able to delete the touchwiz all together and flash a new Rom. I'm not exactly sure what the problems are that are stopping devs from just installing a Rom onto it after removing touchwiz. I can wait I was just asking out of curiosity lol.
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You can't do that without achieving AOSP. ICS AOSP is helpful, but everyone wants JB.
The JB AOSP source code isn't out and when it is, the closed-source RIL is the biggest obstacle to making it work.
Serious_Beans said:
We have the kernel source and aosp source(obviously) so why hasn't anyone made an aosp Rom? Are there no dedicated enough devs? Does no one care? I've been thinking to compile an aosp Rom but I wouldn't know where to go from there
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You can't have AOSP ROMS without the AndroidOpenSource for 4.1, which isn't out for 2 more weeks. And for 4.0, the devs still need time.
someone else mentioned that a lot of the devs might have held out for the 32gb models which were hard to come by opening week. the 16gb versions came out first. anyway, there are a lot of great devs on board, and not just historically samsung devs. htc devs like myn will be pumping out roms soon enough.
i won't lie though... some jellybean love would be beautiful.
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someone else mentioned that a lot of the devs might have held out for the 32gb models which were hard to come by opening week. the 16gb versions came out first. anyway, there are a lot of great devs on board, and not just historically samsung devs. htc devs like myn will be pumping out roms soon enough.
i won't lie though... some jellybean love would be beautiful.
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Yeah, I hope by the time the SGS4 rolls around in a year that 32GB will be the new low-end, with 64GB the step up. I really hope we don't stagnate here -- or worse: go backwards -- just because of this cloud crap.
My guess would be that most of the devs have the international version. They have had AOSP roms for weeks. Not to mention cm9, aokp, and about to get miui4
My guess would be that the phone is just getting released in the US and maybe the devs are waiting for 4.1 source so we can have a Jelly Bean AOSP rom instead of spending so much time to create an ICS AOSP. That doesn't make much sense to me, why waste time on ICS when JB is coming out in couple of weeks.
Can't most efforts on ICS apply to JB, or do things like project butter really change up the porting?
I imagine Google Play on stock/root or CM9 would be a lower-hanging fruit.
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My guess would be that the phone is just getting released in the US and maybe the devs are waiting for 4.1 source so we can have a Jelly Bean AOSP rom instead of spending so much time to create an ICS AOSP. That doesn't make much sense to me, why waste time on ICS when JB is coming out in couple of weeks.
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Yeah that is probably it. But wouldn't starting now with ics help with jb?
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I thought jelly bean was flashable over ics
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Yeah I get that it's running touchwiz which is like you said basically a 0% true android experience but wouldn't you just be able to delete the touchwiz all together and flash a new Rom. I'm not exactly sure what the problems are that are stopping devs from just installing a Rom onto it after removing touchwiz. I can wait I was just asking out of curiosity lol.
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Try and just take it explorer on Windows and see how far you get. It's not as simple as just deleting touchwiz.
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There isn't AOSP because of posts like this. You probably delayed it a day or two.
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There isn't AOSP because of posts like this. You probably delayed it a day or two.
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Now now, this isn't Half Life. But seriously, I don't mind waiting for AOSP because TouchWiz has a lot of cool software features and I can always flash an ICS theme.
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So I sold my GS3 for a Galaxy Nexus because I wanted to experience Jelly Bean. Well after a week I'm back and heres why.
1. Screen bigger and better
2. Camera much better
3.phone felt much snappier(although I wasn't on Jellybean)
4.volume much louder and crisp
5.GSM Nexus had no LTE and below standard HSpa+ never over 6 mbps
So if your in to specs I say the Gs3 is the place for you.
Also if buying the Nexus off craigslist make sure it's able to receive the update the one I bought was on the wrong radio and was told it would not which Is why I sold it too.
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Well, not to be bashful or anything, but I figured going with the GSIII was a given. Jelly Bean may be great, but it's not going to do anything to get the GNex up to GSIII standards. And no worries, GSIII will get it's fill of Jelly Bean goodness soon enough.
I had the galaxy nexus, I want on JB, I have no regrets switching.
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JB will come for GS3 soon enough
Love the nexus but sold it last week. Jelly bean will soon hit roms so not a huge loss and I'll definitely be picking up the new nexus when ever it comes out.
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JB will come for GS3 soon enough
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No it won't. Official ics only just now rolled out for some sgs2 phones.The SDK was released in October of last year.
You might get some carrier leaks (buggy asz shiz) or cm10 (less buggy) but that will probably be many months.
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No it won't. Official ics only just now rolled out for some sgs2 phones.The SDK was released in October of last year.
You might get some carrier leaks (buggy asz shiz) or cm10 (less buggy) but that will probably be many months.
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Me personally I can wait, I never run stock and the amount or ROM's the international version has will keep me busy for a long time.
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We will be rocking cm10 in very little time.
Or at least beta of it.
Since pics to jellybean isn't a major overhaul. Like froyo to gingerbread or ginger to pics.
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We will be rocking cm10 in very little time.
Or at least beta of it.
Since pics to jellybean isn't a major overhaul. Like froyo to gingerbread or ginger to pics.
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Very little time = many months?
If you mean like a month or so, where do you come up with that bs?
The numbers speak clearly - look up froyo to gb, or gb to ics timeline.
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Very little time = many months?
If you mean like a month or so, where do you come up with that bs?
The numbers speak clearly - look up froyo to gb, or gb to ics timeline.
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Look up the change log and structure between those earlier android versions then go look at jelly bean compared to ics. Believe it or not the change isn't a complete overhaul, they meant for it to be that way.
Ps. there is already a beta jellybean on the international version, and we got cm9 and aokp within the first few weeks of the phone being out, the s3 is a whole nother beast compared to the s2
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Look up the change log and structure between those earlier android versions
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Enlighten me. Where can I find a "change log and structure" for Gingerbread/ICS and ICS/JB?
And how do those relate to programming an aosp rom?
Please.
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Enlighten me. Where can I find a "change log and structure" for Gingerbread/ICS and ICS/JB?
And how do those relate to programming an aosp rom?
Please.
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Here's a little info on what's being worked for CM10 if you haven't seen I already.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/BMQiaHhSMte?hl=en
masaidjet said:
Here's a little info on what's being worked for CM10 if you haven't seen I already.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/BMQiaHhSMte?hl=en
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I really wasn't interested, if you haven't guessed yet.
I was making a point about JB not being easily ported compared to ics or gb.
Im no dev but the majority of ICS porting applies to JB. Under the hood they are very similar. Google Now, the new voice software, and the triple buffering (kernel level stuff) are the major differences. Google now is an APK and the voice isn't requiring a lot of work either I'm sure.
If we don't have a fairly strong jb aosp in a month I would be surprised.
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I kept my GNex as my backup to my GSIII. Praying for some AOKP love over here in Verizon GSIII land, lol.
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I think it's pretty obvious that the jump from GB to ICS is what took so long. imagine trying to get all your current apps and data and customization to work with a new OS with zero hiccups and nothing lost. ICS is so completely different from GB, I'm not surprised it took so long. The jump to JB from ICS isn't nearly as large, as some people have pointed out. I'm banking on us getting it early Q4.
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I kept my GNex as my backup to my GSIII. Praying for some AOKP love over here in Verizon GSIII land, lol.
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Ha ha right? The only thing that bothers me about the gnex is the screen and camera, the screen for some reason on my GS3 looks much better
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Ha ha right? The only thing that bothers me about the gnex is the screen and camera, the screen for some reason on my GS3 looks much better
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Yup and it's spec wise not much bigger but the Gs3s screen just looks much nicer and bigger.
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CM 10 doesn't require a bunch of new drivers or official blobs from Samsung so it should be rewrite of code and implementing the apps and such. If the SGS III got AOSP ICS in weeks I'd say cm 10 might be weeks away from the point source was released. I'm not positive cause I'm not on a computer, but I think Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) has the SGS III for T-Mobile. I'm no where near a PC (just my phone til Monday)... if he is on the device as the main team member, we are looking at great nightlys and then some.
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CM 10 doesn't require a bunch of new drivers or official blobs from Samsung so it should be rewrite of code and implementing the apps and such. If the SGS III got AOSP ICS in weeks I'd say cm 10 might be weeks away from the point source was released. I'm not positive cause I'm not on a computer, but I think Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) has the SGS III for T-Mobile. I'm no where near a PC (just my phone til Monday)... if he is on the device as the main team member, we are looking at great nightlys and then some.
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I agree he actually has post in the nightly build topic, so he most likely is working on it
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Android 4.3/CM10.2 ROMS are growing in number, and many former Android 4.2 and CM 10.1 ROMS have been evolved into the newer builds. Problem is that Graphic Glitches on Android 4.3 for Samsung Exynos phones are substantial, and they make the user experience quite unstable and at times very irritating.
We need developers to continue updating 4.2 ROMS with the latest features (e.g. Focal, HALO2, etc...) for a while until the Graphic glitches on 4.3 ROMS are dealt with sufficiently. Maybe a new PA or CM 10.1 ROM would be a good place to start. Current 4.2.2 ROMS still being developed lack many new features and recent updates.
Thanks for everyone who helps. If you agree with the idea, press THANKS below to show the number of those interested.
We need 4.2 roms which dont deplete your battery in 5 minutes lol.
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We need Android 5 key lime pie
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we need nexus note series...
We need shoes that allow us to fly.
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Try out SlimRom build 8. It's 4.2.2 and stable, fast and battery friendly and include all the customization options you need.
With that said I would also like to say that my modded stock and odexed 4.1.2 is working like a charm and nothing beats it.
Try developing yourself and you will know how difficult it is. Just begging and demanding don't work. Go fork some repos and port 4.3 changes back into 4.2
And the issue of graphic glitches is not anyone's but Samsung's fault because they haven't released updated GPU drivers. And non of the 4.3 Roms mentioned stable so such glitches are expected.
If you are not satisfied with whats avilablr then either make your own stuff or suffice with whats available.
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We need shoes that allow us to fly.
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Pmsl..
GT N7105 with XDA Premium......that is all......
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"...some of the users here don't seem to be able to even comprehend the situation. And so they talk nonsense. Get your facts right and we'll discuss again. Please. Hopefully this'll be my last post about this topic."
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Source
NightHawkUndead said:
We need shoes that allow us to fly.
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Nike air... hello
Why do we need them? You sort of fail to mention that.
Lock screen widgets? Please.
What else? The fact it's a bigger number?
We need another lockscreen shortcut on top of any current lockscreen shortcut
We need a transparent iphone
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More 4.2 roms??? Really? I think we already got very good rooms and developers. There is no perfect rom if that what you're looking for.
Want to lose weight?
www.onelittlestop.com
I started this thread as at the moment there doesn't seem to be any live AOSP based ROMs.
If anyone has any information on AOSP ROMs that are in development please post here (let's include CM for fun)
Personally I'm hoping for an OMNI ROM for the multi window functionality with a pure Google experience.
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shure2 said:
I started this thread as at the moment there doesn't seem to be any live AOSP based ROMs.
If anyone has any information on AOSP ROMs that are in development please post here (let's include CM for fun)
Personally I'm hoping for an OMNI ROM for the multi window functionality with a pure Google experience.
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I would love to see an OMNIrom also
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shure2 said:
I started this thread as at the moment there doesn't seem to be any live AOSP based ROMs.
If anyone has any information on AOSP ROMs that are in development please post here (let's include CM for fun)
Personally I'm hoping for an OMNI ROM for the multi window functionality with a pure Google experience.
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CM stated on their official blog that they are working on the Note 3 roms but they are at pre-nightly stages. Once it gets stable enough for nightlies that is when it'll be released.
Jonphinguyen7 said:
CM stated on their official blog that they are working on the Note 3 roms but they are at pre-nightly stages. Once it gets stable enough for nightlies that is when it'll be released.
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That day, will be the day I'll say goodbye to the warranty, all the Knox ****, and start to fully enjoy my beast!
HI
Thanks to open this thread. Wait AOSP roms too
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After coming from the N4 I was afraid that I might have made the wrong choice choosing the note 3.
Hopefully we get Aosp soon.
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It's between the n5 and note 3 for me. I want the awesome battery life (ala note 3, not nexus 5) but the AOSP goodness :banghead:
Does anyone know a contact for the OMNI ROM to see of there is development plans?
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Bucika said:
That day, will be the day I'll say goodbye to the warranty, all the Knox ****, and start to fully enjoy my beast!
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Exactly the same here !
Loved my S3 on CM.
Might as well enjoy stock while i wait
can't wait for CM!!
Once one ROM is ported a bunch more will be able to use the progress that port made on the device specific files to port other ROMs. I'm hoping for Omni ROM as well.
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TouchWiz is horrible
This phone, the screen, battery and cpu are WOW, but TouchWiz is horrible. The Pull down menu... 1/3rd of it is taken up by the time, settings buttons, toggle buttons, brightness and what WiFi I'm connected to.. the other 2/3rds? Taken up by 1 e-mail. Of course Samsung realizes people with a powerful business phone like this only get 1 message at a time so they make it nice and easy to read. So then the gallery... every time I'm in the gallery there is a yellow flower icon in the top left. Why? Samsung knows $700 top of the line pocket computer owners like bright flowers. The blank faces in messaging and contacts are downright ugly, seriously who approved that? Luckily I have Samsung Apps, Samsung Link, Samsung Hub and Samsung InApp Purchase to keep all this NFC S-Beam fist bumping super assistant S-Voice Jedi hand waving air command motion hover pen magic in order!
Everyday I check XDA in hopes of any news....
My Order:
1. MIUI
2. AOSP/CM
3. Sony
4. LG ?
5. HTC
6. Samsung
What is great about Omnirom?
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Chainfire is involved in Omni and although he's not a ROM developer (as far as I'm aware), he does have a Note 3 so fingers crossed he'll help push support for it.
As for AOSP, I think we're all waiting on the CM nightlies to pick up, after that other AOSP ROMs should appear soon. Hopefully.
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What is great about Omnirom?
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Having the Multi-Window ability on an AOSP is their "trademark" feature
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can't wait for CM!!
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Same here!
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Now that this rom is released, does anyone have any idea how long something like this would take to port over?
I'm not sure if it's an easy thing or not. I know AOSP was pushed almost same day, albeit being buggy.
I'm pretty excited to get the update on my AT&T phone, however I don't remember how long it took for the 4.3 to be released for regular models.
For anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...ion-kitkat-update-rolling-out-starting-today/
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Now that this rom is released, does anyone have any idea how long something like this would take to port over?
I'm not sure if it's an easy thing or not. I know AOSP was pushed almost same day, albeit being buggy.
I'm pretty excited to get the update on my AT&T phone, however I don't remember how long it took for the 4.3 to be released for regular models.
For anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...ion-kitkat-update-rolling-out-starting-today/
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Bookmark this thread and keep your eye out for it's in the works right now from @iB4STiD and @ktoonsez
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43216973&postcount=1
Be sure to give them thanks!!! :good:
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Bookmark this thread and keep your eye out for it's in the works right now from @iB4STiD and @ktoonsez
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43216973&postcount=1
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Awesome! That's where I got my 4.3 GPE rom, thanks for the update dude!
I'm not an expert on this, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
By what I understand, the Google Edition ROM runs with little modification on the AT&T S4. The main hurdles are with the kernel, which has to be modified slightly to run on the AT&T S4. Once a developer is able to modify the kernel to run, porting the rest of the ROM over shouldn't be a big deal. The developers are pretty brilliant and quick on this stuff, so I imagine you'll be seeing ports of the GPE ROM here pretty soon.
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I'm not an expert on this, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
By what I understand, the Google Edition ROM runs with little modification on the AT&T S4. The main hurdles are with the kernel, which has to be modified slightly to run on the AT&T S4. Once a developer is able to modify the kernel to run, porting the rest of the ROM over shouldn't be a big deal. The developers are pretty brilliant and quick on this stuff, so I imagine you'll be seeing ports of the GPE ROM here pretty soon.
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Basically. I mean, there isn't a significant difference in the hardware between a normal Samsung S4 and a Google Edition S4, except the LTE chips used for retrieving signal (depends on your carrier). So that being said, the kernel shouldn't be a big deal and the ROM shouldn't be either. I'm really hoping to use Kangakat as soon as it's released, I'm a BIG fan of Kangabean and have been using it along with Omega ROM with dual boot. Can't wait for this! Thanks for the good news! It's about time!
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I can't wait for 4.4 SafeStrap
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This is a great question....
I was PLANNING on flashing a 4.3 ROM but I seriously might just wait out till 4.4 ROMS...
How long do you think it would be? A couple months? A couple weeks? 3 seconds?
Guys... It comes out when it comes out. There is no telling. Please don't ask for ETAs. It is heavily frowned upon. Just be patient.
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Honestly for everyone whining about people whining for ETAs, I'm gonna throw this out there - I wouldn't be surprised if it were out tomorrow to be honest.
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International s4 has several roms for google edition 4.4 already. I wouldn't flash them just yet because roms for our phone are just around the corner.
EpicMango said:
This is a great question....
I was PLANNING on flashing a 4.3 ROM but I seriously might just wait out till 4.4 ROMS...
How long do you think it would be? A couple months? A couple weeks? 3 seconds?
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Been monitoring the thread posted above, looks like there is one small issue for them to resolve with the Kernel and the 4.4 GPE rom will be ready
Here's to hoping for tomorrow
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Been monitoring the thread posted above, looks like there is one small issue for them to resolve with the Kernel and the 4.4 GPE rom will be ready
Here's to hoping for tomorrow
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yep, it's being worked on
not quite sure what is going on with keystore, but it's causing a force close of settings. I've been in touch with both faux and ktoonsez and they are actively working on a fix
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...p-file-for-the-galaxy-s4-google-play-edition/
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EDIT - Answered my own question, guess it won't work on an ATT S4.
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EDIT - Answered my own question, guess it won't work on an ATT S4.
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Why wouldn't it? They are the exact same device I thought.
The article states that this is the OTA, not a standalone ROM - am I wrong in thinking that it couldn't be installed?
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The article states that this is the OTA, not a standalone ROM - am I wrong in thinking that it couldn't be installed?
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Yes you are. The S4 Snapdragon variants (Google Play Edition, AT&T, etc) all have the exact same hardware. It will run perfectly as a flashed ROM once it's finished be g developed. Why wouldn't it?
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Well, yeah, after development, but this seems to currently be installable on the I9505G, not the I337. At least according to the article, comments there, and what I've seen on the I9505G forum.
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The I9505G is the exact same thing...
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I'm going to try and flash it on a 1337m
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