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I just bought an Atrix, and I thought I would post a little review because in all my research before I bought the phone, I did not find one which said what I needed to hear. Hopefully this is useful and objective.
I have owned a OG Droid, Samsung Fascinate, Nexus S, Galaxy S, and this Atrix so I feel like I have good grounds for comparison.
Out of the box...
The Good: The phone's hardware is top notch. The specs are awesome.
The Bad: The Motorola Atrix in completly stock form (the one I bought anyways) is very buggy and laggy. When I first unboxed it and was doing my initial set up and installing a few apps, a number of different programs forced close. The whole experience was slow and frustrating. I would rate Moto Blur as simply horrible and disgusting.
The fact that Motorola was able to take a tegra 2 powered phone with 1GB of DDR2 ram and make it run choppy is beyond me.
With that being said... If you don't know how to or do not plan on rooting, or modifying the software on your phone, I would highly recommended you avoid the Atrix.
If you are a fan of tinkering and modifying, then the Atrix is a great choice.

I have only noticed lag for the first 15-30 seconds after power on. None after that...
Motoblur means nothing to me, and doesn't really seem to slow down my phone. I had lunch with a bunch of other android users, and they were all impressed by the atrix' snappiness...

One thing I remembered when I had the atrix was unlocking the phone and using it was extremely laggy and slow for the first few seconds. I confirmed this with 2 other store demos. If you swipe your finger or do the pattern unlock, try bringing down the notification bar immediately. It'll be slow and choppy but if you wait a couple seconds and then try again, it'll be fine. Always annoyed me at how LONG it took to unlock the phone and get it going compared to every other android phone I've owned.

I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.

SpeeDemon said:
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
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DDR2 ram win.
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The only lag I've noticed is for a few seconds after the initial boot up, which is understandable. To say it is very laggy and buggy is crazy. Perhaps the unit you had was defective.
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Sounds like you may have a buggy device... Ive had three of them so far (one was replaced due to what I perceived to be a faulty battery and my wife also uses one). And I've not seen any of the lag you're talking about...
If it was a big enough occurance don't you think you would've read about it on these forums? This place is packed with android super users... no ones having problems like that ...
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plvaulter06 said:
If you are a fan of tinkering and modifying, then the Atrix is a great choice.
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the atrix is a horrible choice if you like to tinker and modify your phone...

dinan said:
One thing I remembered when I had the atrix was unlocking the phone and using it was extremely laggy and slow for the first few seconds. I confirmed this with 2 other store demos. If you swipe your finger or do the pattern unlock, try bringing down the notification bar immediately. It'll be slow and choppy but if you wait a couple seconds and then try again, it'll be fine. Always annoyed me at how LONG it took to unlock the phone and get it going compared to every other android phone I've owned.
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.... the fingerprint scanner makes it real quick to unlock the phone.... and it's not easy enough to be accidentally pocket-unlocked like some other unlocking systems i've seen.... such as i think HTC's, where you just slide the one thing down. Hell, with the one pair of shorts i have, i was actually able to see the screen on my iPhone 4 when i had it, and unlock it THROUGH THE SHORTS if i wanted to.
And i think it'd be expected for things to be going a tad slow as soon as it's woken up. Look at computers. Whether it's booting... sleeping... hibernating.... if you expect to be able to do something without any form of lag the second either of those are recovered from, you'd be sorely mistaken.

neotekz said:
the atrix is a horrible choice if you like to tinker and modify your phone...
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Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*

Mustang302LX said:
Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*
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NICE!!!!!! glad someone finally said something... I mean sure u can't load cyanogen but with the way things are going with these "pseudo" roms if cyanogen put some effort into making one of those for the atrix would that not be a sufficient fix??? Because lets face it doubt the BL will be unlocked soo instead of putting all that effort I to unlocking it how about taking g advantage of the capabilities that we do have.... ???? Just sayen

robwscott83 said:
NICE!!!!!! glad someone finally said something... I mean sure u can't load cyanogen but with the way things are going with these "pseudo" roms if cyanogen put some effort into making one of those for the atrix would that not be a sufficient fix??? Because lets face it doubt the BL will be unlocked soo instead of putting all that effort I to unlocking it how about taking g advantage of the capabilities that we do have.... ???? Just sayen
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Haha didn't really mean to come off as a jerk but I'm just sick of reading people's posts in the ATRIX forum hating on the phone. If it's not the phone for you so what go to the forum of the device you like!
I hope to also see some cool themes/pseudo-ROMs made available. At least we have Ken right now working his butt off on GingerBlur!

Mustang302LX said:
Haha didn't really mean to come off as a jerk but I'm just sick of reading people's posts in the ATRIX forum hating on the phone. If it's not the phone for you so what go to the forum of the device you like!
I hope to also see some cool themes/pseudo-ROMs made available. At least we have Ken right now working his butt off on GingerBlur!
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yes he difinitley is i was following that thread for a bit but i saw that with the latest release i believe it was beta7 (at the time) webtop for th laptop dock was disabled and i have the LTD so that is a feature that i definitely need... do you know if its a RC yet???

Mustang302LX said:
Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*
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i have an atrix, i guess we just have different opinions on tinkering...i do like the change roms often and be able to upgrade to the newest android version without having to wait for the manufacture. theres so much more you can do when you open up the kernel, most of the bugs that people are having would be solved if the devs can get at the kernel. Why do you think developers are leaving the Atrix? there's only so much you can do with a locked bootloader. i never said i hated the phone(i wouldnt of bought it if i did) i just dont think it's a good phone for modding but hopefully that will change...

SpeeDemon said:
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
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same with mine.. the ATT version of the Atrix must be loaded with crapware making the phone slow down. My Bell version flies right out of the box, even when using Motoblur!

SpeeDemon said:
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
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+1 I agree, Atrix = speed I've rarely felt lags if any at all
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robwscott83 said:
yes he difinitley is i was following that thread for a bit but i saw that with the latest release i believe it was beta7 (at the time) webtop for th laptop dock was disabled and i have the LTD so that is a feature that i definitely need... do you know if its a RC yet???
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It's still in Beta at 7.2 now. However I believe the webtop that was removed in the previous version was the hack to make it work with just an HDMI cable so you don't need the dock to make it work. I am on 7.2 and I have the webtop hack installed and it works perfect on my TV through just the HDMI cable.

I am really enjoying the ATRIX. I was starting to get a little burnt out on installing new ROMS every couple days or weeks. This is however my first Android phone...coming from the WinMo forums...This phone is like night and day compared to my old Tilt 2.
People have such harsh and strong opinions on everything on forums. These 'reviews' should be read as objectively as possible.

starvinmrvn said:
I am really enjoying the ATRIX. I was starting to get a little burnt out on installing new ROMS every couple days or weeks. This is however my first Android phone...coming from the WinMo forums...This phone is like night and day compared to my old Tilt 2.
People have such harsh and strong opinions on everything on forums. These 'reviews' should be read as objectively as possible.
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Welcome Brother I'm in the same boat =P tilt 2 to atrix is an amazingly wonderful jump ~!

I came from a captivate where roms are readily available. I enjoyed flashing and it was awesome to see how a device can mature. But the kernel development is where things truly shine. But even after all the flashing I just felt like things didn't quite work right. I thought it was the fact that 99% of the roms were based off the international galaxy s.
I love my atrix. Everything works. The battery life is awesome. The phone really flies. Motoblur sucks but its been taken care of. As long as we get more roms ill be happy. Unlocked bootloader would be nice but I don't see it happening
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[Q] Is Nexus 7 supposed to be this way? (laggy)

Nexus 7 32GB is my first android device. Before I bought it, most people were saying that android is finally smooth, project butter and so on. But that's not the case here. I'm on 4.2.2 stock, have currents sync disabled, my storage is only half full, and my Nexus is starting to get on my nerves.
- screen rotation takes exactly 4 seconds, no exception.
- apps sometimes freeze, forcing me to force close them or even reboot occasionally.
- even some simple games, like Dragonvale, run like stop motion in certain segments.
- when I install ANY app, it seems that android service responsible to put icon on my home screen takes 100% CPU time for 10-15 seconds or so.
- when there are app updates, my nexus is unusable. Takes 10+ seconds for any action.
Say what you want about windows phone, but that thing flies. Am I maybe spoiled by it's buttery smoothness so android by comparison irritates me, or is there really something wrong with my Nexus? I already did hard reset once, early on. It did not help. Should I try again? If so, what backup solution is the easiest?
I know I might be asking a lot and that there are threads about this already, but info is scattered, and there are numerous contradicting opinions and advices. Basically I am just not sure if this is how it's supposed to be, or should I try something.

The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Terepin said:
The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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How do I detect a rouge app? Task manager? Can you recommend one?
It was slow to start with. Disabling currents sync did not help. And I did do reset in the first few days. Did not help.
Now, it's just even more slower. Perhaps by as much as 50% in some actions, if I can put a number on a subjective impression.

Dr.Molestratus said:
Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?

d.a.v.o.r said:
Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?
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Well if you want better performance... ROMs and kernels are the things to mess with.
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You should probably flash a ROM/kernel for best performance. But if you still don't want to mess with ROMs, reflash the stock rom and reroot it. That's what helped me.

I've had some issues with my phone lagging during/after app update, and i've only recently nailed down the culprit. Turns out it was the Root Uninstaller app that was making backups of older versions of the apps during the update, it ceased after i turned off the option in it's settings (or just uninstall). My guesstimate would be that you have some app that is doing just that. Because my own n7 doesn't noticeably lag even if i try to update many (as much as 10) apps at the same, which usually kills my single-core SGSL into a reboot shortly after trying this.

I think 4.2 is just buggy. It flies for me sometimes and on some devices, and sometimes it crawls horribly. Maybe the next android version will fix this, maybe not
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This helped me a little (If you don't use Currents then this could help)
1. Go to Settings > Apps > All (swipe right 2 times) > Currents
2. Click "Force Stop"
3. Click "Disable"
It should be now fixed for some of it. Like the earlier posts suggest, maybe reflashing stock ROM or installing a kernel (once you're comfortable) will help for sure.

It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.

AW: [Q] Is Nexus 7 supposed to be this way? (laggy)
If you're having a lot of apps installed you can get ram problems. Some apps are running in the background even if they don't need to. If you wanna know which apps those are simply go to apps and swipe to the second panel. There you can see which asps are running in the background .You should delete them. If you don't want to do that simply download the app Greenify
(You should have more than 200mb free)
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Entropy generator, I just use pimp my ROM, even on stock rooted.
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I'm on paranoid 2.54 which is 4.1 and it feels faster than cm10.1 I miss 4.2.2 fonts but I'll see If I get it.
BR.

d.a.v.o.r said:
It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.
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Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.

Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Wilks3y said:
Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.
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RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
ezas said:
Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.

d.a.v.o.r said:
RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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It honestly shouldn't lag like that. Even bone stock.
One thing you can do right away is go into developer settings (click 7 times on Build Number in About Tablet to enable) and change all animation settings to.5 or to none.
DL Root Checker, or just try to use any root app to see if you actually do have root. Even with the wonderful toolkits (which will also save your bacon if you get into a bootloop) getting root to stick can be tricky...you may have to run it a couple of times.
But the best results will come if you flash a custom rom and kernel. if you like a tweaked stock experience, try CleanRom Inheritance. It uses the Aroma installer, so it's very easy and customizable. It can be found under Android Development.

d.a.v.o.r said:
RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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You can use titanium backup. It there others like carbon. But titanium has been around the longest and it's my preferred way. Requires root, and it should warn you at start up if you aren't rooted correctly.
I would do as others suggested and just restore basic apps after factory reboot and re root. Then slowly restore others to see if you notice other problems along the way.
Also, if you didn't know. You can install kernels without wiping tablet and changing the whole Rom. I would definitely try that eventually too.
One more thing to note. Don't judge android on chrome (not that you mentioned it, but I know a lot of newbies have). It's one of the slowest browsers. It has tons of great features which I love, but do slow compared to most others. I wish I wasn't so addicted to its syncing.

Thanks to everyone on advices.
1) root checker says I do not have proper root. Now that I think about it, I did update my Nexus 7 from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2. I guess that also removed root.
2) I will reset. I don't really have any messages or photos or app data that is not already in the cloud that I need to backup.
3) I'll try to gradually install everything app by app to see if it's a rouge app.
4) I'll than revive this thread with my results. Though I doubt I'll get to doing all that in the next few days.
Again, thanks everyone!

loss of features if not using stock rom?

just ordered my note 10.1 yesterday. should be here next week!
i have an s3, and i just updated it to the latest version of AOKP.
of course i'll be rooting it but i was wondering if anyone thought the tradeoff to using a different rom was worth it. i got the note for work (mainly notes and powerpoints) so i'd hate to not be able to use any of the features that really set it apart from other android tablets!

My personal experience left me inclined to stay with a touchwiz based custom ROM, some extra power and flexibility without losing anything. CM and AOKP are nice as always, but on this particular tablet I really find features like multi window, smart stay and air view to be well worth their weight. There's a growing selection of roms that retain all of the Note's features. I really liked Android revolution a lot, am currently on Collective edition. You can even enable all apps to multi window, which is just savvy!

Abneycat said:
My personal experience left me inclined to stay with a touchwiz based custom ROM, some extra power and flexibility without losing anything. CM and AOKP are nice as always, but on this particular tablet I really find features like multi window, smart stay and air view to be well worth their weight. I really liked Android revolution a lot, am currently on Collective edition. You can even enable all apps to multi window, which is just savvy!
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That's what I was thinking. It'd be a shame to go vanilla and lose all the features I paid extra for! I'll check out some touchwiz based ones then.

Yep, I Cant Understand Why People Pay Premium $$$ then Go Vanilla Android And Loose All those Features They Bought The Note For In The 1st Place.... Each To Their Own...
Just Be Aware Too, Because Of All The Tweaks And Things Running In The Background You Might Find Your Battery Draining A Lot Faster... At Least, That Was My Experience. Went Back To Stock Rooted And Battery Lasts Longer...

ultramag69 said:
Yep, I Cant Understand Why People Pay Premium $$$ then Go Vanilla Android And Loose All those Features They Bought The Note For In The 1st Place.... Each To Their Own...
Just Be Aware Too, Because Of All The Tweaks And Things Running In The Background You Might Find Your Battery Draining A Lot Faster... At Least, That Was My Experience. Went Back To Stock Rooted And Battery Lasts Longer...
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+1

I'm thinking I'll do the same thing I did with my phone: wait minimum 2 weeks before I start messing around. That way I have a good base to judge things like battery life compared to stock.
Thanks for the advice everyone! My Note should arrive on Monday!
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Just an FYI, if you do root it make sure to run triangle away to reset the flash Counter.

Heh okay. I never did that with my S3! I probably should then.
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I bought this tablet for the Wacom technology and s-pen, combined with the excellent hardware. All of that is perfectly fine in AOSP. Palm rejection, s-pen support, etc.
I did not buy this tablet to have multi view, but I can see where that would be a non-negotiable.
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I'm sure at some point I'll experiment with an AOSP rom. I always wind up back at those...

emirae1091 said:
That's what I was thinking. It'd be a shame to go vanilla and lose all the features I paid extra for! I'll check out some touchwiz based ones then.
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I tried "Android Revolution HD" and "Omega" ROM, both are very nice and are touchwiz modified roms.
You should check them out.
Android Revolution HD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119547
Omega
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2131474
One or both of them may use Aroma installer so may want to stick to Zedomax "HighOnAndroids CWM".
Zedomax also has a post "How to ROOT Galaxy Note 10.1" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831152
And here is one of his many .coms that he has that has an embeded step by step video on how to root you note 10.1, his root method includes CWM that does work with Android Revolution HD and Omega ROMs. http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-note-10-1-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-10-1-easiest-methodcwmmethod-2/
TIP: I download the video of Zedomax root process onto my computer along with the files needed to root so I have them all in one place.
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Whoa! Thanks!!

Just Be Aware That Because Of The Tweaks Done To These Roms Your Battery Use May Be More....

ultramag69 said:
Just Be Aware That Because Of The Tweaks Done To These Roms Your Battery Use May Be More....
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Completely opposite to my experience..
Most of the roms remove many bloatware apps and battery life improve

Thats been my experience as well. My S3 is way better on AOKP.
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It Is So Annoying To Read Posts With Every Word Capitalized! Ugh Is It You Or Your Keyboard Settings?

Sean09 said:
It Is So Annoying To Read Posts With Every Word Capitalized! Ugh Is It You Or Your Keyboard Settings?
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+1 - It Must Be The Custom ROM He's Using; Perhaps The Keyboard Is Broken In It
Kidding aside though, normally I only deal with AOSP-capable devices, but you have to admit that the TW version (and features) we have on the Note 10.1 are pretty nice- so I'm using ROMs that are as close to Stock as possible (namely, Darkman's ROMs and lately AR HD 5.0).
Also, most complaints about "bloatware" are completely unfounded and appear to come from users who read not-quite-fully-understood posts on forums like these. I've never used Crayon Whatever-it's-called nor the Music Hub, and the effect of either is negligible. They don't take up much in the way of storage either (esp. on devices with at least 11GB of free space out of the box).

Actually it's the stock rom for Australia... Was using my note to post... Samsung seem to have a bug in JB they released for us poor buggers down here. Only real problem with the stock rom though...:silly::laugh:
Not gonna complain too much though, It took them long enough to release it...

ultramag69 said:
Just an FYI, if you do root it make sure to run triangle away to reset the flash Counter.
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im a little confused about this flash counter. i just rooted and what not and was checking out triangle away. but not sure its purpose? does something happen if the count gets too high? or is it just for warranty purposes... ?

panda-man said:
I'm a little confused about this flash counter. i just rooted and what not and was checking out triangle away, but not sure of its purpose? Does something happen if the count gets too high or is it just for warranty purposes?
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99% of the time its being used it's to keep the All-Share Cast Dongle working, which (due to DRM reasons) won't run if the flash counter is greater than 0. It really doesn't affect anything else, AFAIK.

What to do with a New Nexus 4? Tweaks? Optimizations?

I recently bought a Nexus 4 and it should be here this coming week.
I was wondering what are the first things I should do to it?
My list:
1. Let it charge to 100% and use till 0% to calibrate battery
2. Root the Phone
3. ???
thanks!

You should definitely unlock the bootloader directly, because this process will delete everything on your phone... When you used your phone some time and want to unlock it then, the backing up and restoring might be annoying.

And don`t drain the battery to 0% or the red light monster might get you.

On top of all that has been said, rooting is worth it, this thread will help you choose a rom & kernel (just remember, no rom is the best, you just have to try some and see what one you like)

Calibration is not needed.
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Calibration is not needed.
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Calibration was a farce.
OP, you need to head over to the dev section and find a kernel. Read the OP's, comments on battery life, functions, etc. and figure out which kernels you want to try first. I would start by running stock with a custom kernel.

mc704, I just want to say, on behalf of the nexus 4 community. Welcome. You will find a huge variety of ROMs, mods, and kernels to choose from. Lots of things to try and customize. Rooting your nexus is the best thing to ever happen to your phone. We are a community driven force to be reckoned with. Just remember one thing while you're here? Please take your time and read up on anything you might have questions about. Most of are more than happy to assist you should you run into a brick wall. We all hope your rooting experience is fulfilling should you choose to do so. Happy flashing.

yes root
install greenify and adway
enjoy

I started of unlocking and flashing AOKP accompanied with franco kernel.
but it's just my bad habit, unbox, don't even boot it once, flash with custom.
(did that to iphone4, htc one X, and now nexus, lol)
after I got used to all of the sweetness of AOKP (oneX), couldnt go back to stock.
forget battery, calibration is myth from the dark age of the nimh batteries
for the beginning, if you have no past experience: unlock, root, flash custom kernel (franco is IMO very decent)
play with it, see what you like and what not, do research and enjoy having the best phone on the market. and being a part of the best community

Flash Paranoid Android

Wow! Thanks so much for the info guys. I checked out some stickies and I know what to do now.
My question now is....what is the majority consensus on a screen protector for the front and back? I searched and there are "many" preferred.

If you want one on the front, make sure you get one that has cut outs for the sensors so it won't cause any issues. But I'm pretty sure by now the all should have the cut outs. As for the back side, if you don't want a case I think you should get a skin for the back. (More info below). I think you should get a case as well to protect the device from accidental falls.
I use to have a screen protector on my phone but I recently took it off because I missed touching the beautiful screen. I'm not worried about scratches. I always make sure I don't have things in my pockets or bags that will scratch my phone. Lol.
skins:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095261
http://dbrand.com/submodels/nexus-4/
cases:
http://www.amazon.com/Diztronic-Mat...=1367808343&sr=8-2&keywords=diztronic+nexus+4
(I use this one and I love it!)
http://www.amazon.com/Matte--Rearth...1367808343&sr=8-12&keywords=diztronic+nexus+4
screen protector (wet application)
http://www.xtremeguard.com/LG-Google-Nexus-4-Screen-Protectors-p/lg-nexus-4-screen-protector.htm
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I would say unlock the bootloader before you download anything, then just use stock for a little while to get a feel for how stock android is on this device. Then if after that you decide it isn't enough or there are some apps or tweaks you want that can only be had with root, root it
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Well As the Nexus is a great developers device. Learn to develop. While flashing roms and mods are great, the device is wasted unless you learn something.

thanks everyone for their help!

I'm thinking of ordering a nexus but don't know if I should wait for the io first.
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Alaris said:
I'm thinking of ordering a nexus but don't know if I should wait for the io first.
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I think you should wait for it. The conference is going to be held next week! I can't wait!
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Hey there all and OP. like everyone is saying you should unlock the boot loader and I'd say roll with Stock for a bit. I find that after going from one ROM to another, I find myself going back to Stock-Rooted all the time. Something about it feels smooth and it flies. Look into custom kernels and Build Prop tweaks. The latter could potentially increase your data speeds. It has with mine noticeably.
And as for the person who is debating about getting this device, I say go for it. When the next Nexus comes out just sell the N4 for it. That's the beauty of the Nexus program. Either way you'll get the newest version of Android.
Just my two cents.

Here is what i have done with my new Nexus 4....
http://tmblr.co/ZXERCtjeAt-j

I'm using Franco kernel with his kernel updater tool. Great performance and optimization tweaks! A must-have!

[Q] How do you keep yourself content with your Note 3?

Hey there.
So I honestly am pretty bored with the Note 3. Maybe it's because I've come from phones with ROMs out the rear end to flash or it could be where I don't do anything too special with my phone (homescreen setups, themes, etc).
I flash ROMs and all that, but I still find myself bored with the phone.
So I ask, if you were ever bored with your phone, without moving to a different device, how did you get yourself content with your device again?
--Sam

Gaming
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To be content with my Note 3 first I had to be thankful I even own one. Just like anything I own. Be happy with what you got because some people are happy to just have water.
I had to work really hard to get anything I suppose just gives me a different perspective in things.
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Nova Launcher helps break the stock monotony for me. I'm a serial rommer, so we'll see how long it takes me to get mad with not romming my Note. Lol
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I am fairly content but am waiting for the note 4.

Master Tasker
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Tada10 said:
To be content with my Note 3 first I had to be thankful I even own one. Just like anything I own. Be happy with what you got because some people are happy to just have water.
I had to work really hard to get anything I suppose just gives me a different perspective in things.
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Thank you for that.
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Continually checking to see if the bootloader has been unlocked so I can finally run cm11 on what should be a rocket ship of a phone but isn't. Because samsung.

Im content just to have such a bad ass phone that can haddle pretty much and app or game I throw at it. I had the Note 2 for a year and then i switched to the HTC One. It was an awesome phone with awesome sound but I missed the big screen. My note 3 is stock rooted and I love it. I install a new clock widget every now and then but my phone is mostly stock. All I need is Kit Kat.
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jjewell said:
Continually checking to see if the bootloader has been unlocked so I can finally run cm11 on what should be a rocket ship of a phone but isn't. Because samsung.
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Don't you mean "because Verizon"?
But yeah, other things that keep me content with my phone besides gaming is Xposed MODs, and SNote for keeping score for Spades in real life...making use of it as "useful" rather than "playful"

II picked up a dev edition in dec, Which I have replaced with a retail. I'm still learning how to best use all the features. Like i just learned how to use the Pen Window today.
I also found a Sansung translation app for written and speech. Was having a blast with this and a Spanish speaking friend. He was speaking to his relative that knew very little English. Well he would start speaking in Spanish to his relative then started steering the conversation to saying stuff about me. He signaled to start recording at one point. When his relative responded he signaled stop, then i played it back in English for me. Well i put on a "shocked face" at what was said, then preceded to record and "Angry" response back and have the translator cuse him out in Spanish. :highfive:
Vudu - Allows me to easily access and watch my collection if I happen to be stuck with nothing to do away. The larger screen also make it more enjoyable.
Music - I love the Adapt Sound. I believe also on the S4. It's basically a hearing test built into the phone, that adjusts the audio after it is complete specifically for your headset and ears. Makes my music on the phone a lot nicer to listen to. Also helps to have a large collection to rotate through.
Specific Apps
Remote control for LG TVs - I can control the TV using the phone and not have to reach for or look for the remote. Oh and it can take a snapshot of what's on the screen ATM. Great for sharing stuff with family & friends.
TiVo Remote - Manage most features of my TiVo without having to move into the menus on the TV.
Next launcher. Allows me to change the look occasionally.

lmike6453 said:
Don't you mean "because Verizon"?
But yeah, other things that keep me content with my phone besides gaming is Xposed MODs, and SNote for keeping score for Spades in real life...making use of it as "useful" rather than "playful"
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haha! That too. But because samsung for building touchwiz that can sometimes still suck up all 2.3 gb of available ram.

Wanted to add movies are awesome in the bed and bathroom especially lol in my Note 3.
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Next launcher and xposed (with plenty of modules installed). Those two things combined offer so much customization your head will spin. With next launcher it's so easy to swap out different things... like change all folder icons, and then change the dock background.
I'm only rooted - still rockin the stock ROM and have no desire to flash a ROM.

I pick up my galaxy nexus and have to squint. This makes me run back to this phone.
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While we do have some great devs on here, overall development is pretty thin with the locked bootloader. But what we have is pretty nice. Mix in xposed, a good home replacement launcher, and an icon pack or two... This phone is still pretty sweet.
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