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is there any differnt between them at perfomance when using class 4
or i should wait for cooked android rom ? is it coming?
Rumours are that a ROM might be available mid sept.
I would say dive in and try it now
With the latest builds such as mattc v1.5, class 4 sd should be enough to get a decent taste of what android has to offer.
Im running it on a 'dubious' class 6 card which performs like a decent class 4 card, and I'm LOVING the android experience so far.... much more than I had expected.
Try it, you wont be dissapointed
^^^^^ completely agree with thesweeney
how can u any one know the difference where there is no rom out ....this is stupid and getting worse in the hd2 android threads
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how can u any one know the difference where there is no rom out ....this is stupid and getting worse in the hd2 android threads
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Umm, no one in this thread has stated that there is a difference between a ROM or running off the SD card. It was just a general agreement on the fact that you should load up Android now to get a taste of how it runs on the HD2 due to how far superior it is over WM. If that statement was just a generalization of the whole Android section of the forum, that has nothing to do with this thread and you are taking it off topic.
But anyways... I agree with the first two replies to you Proz00. Ever since I put Android on my phone, I have never looked back.
I am running a class 6 right now and it is wayyyy faster than the MyTouch 3G that I have. As long as you have a decent class 4, I doubt you will notice a difference. For me, it runs just as fast as WM, if not faster, and apps like linpack, neocore, and quadrant backup all my statements.
Right now I am running the froyostone clean build and I'm hitting about 27 mflops on linpack. My quadrant results just come right under the performance of a Nexus One running 2.2
So basically what I'm trying to say is, it's definitely worth giving Android a chance right now. The worst that can happen is you don't like it, and all you have to do is restart the phone and you're back to WinMo
Hope this helps.
tazz9690 said:
Umm, no one in this thread has stated that there is a difference between a ROM or running off the SD card. It was just a general agreement on the fact that you should load up Android now to get a taste of how it runs on the HD2 due to how far superior it is over WM. If that statement was just a generalization of the whole Android section of the forum, that has nothing to do with this thread and you are taking it off topic.
But anyways... I agree with the first two replies to you Proz00. Ever since I put Android on my phone, I have never looked back.
I am running a class 6 right now and it is wayyyy faster than the MyTouch 3G that I have. As long as you have a decent class 4, I doubt you will notice a difference. For me, it runs just as fast as WM, if not faster, and apps like linpack, neocore, and quadrant backup all my statements.
Right now I am running the froyostone clean build and I'm hitting about 27 mflops on linpack. My quadrant results just come right under the performance of a Nexus One running 2.2
So basically what I'm trying to say is, it's definitely worth giving Android a chance right now. The worst that can happen is you don't like it, and all you have to do is restart the phone and you're back to WinMo
Hope this helps.
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i didnt say any one did say that what i am saying is why create another thread asking which is better when one isnt out yet
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i didnt say any one did say that what i am saying is why create another thread asking which is better when one isnt out yet
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I sort of see what you mean... i think.
The OP's question was a little misleading perhaps....
The first line suggests that they think an Android ROM for HD2 is available.
But the second line of the question makes it clear (IMHO) that they KNOW there is no flashable ROM available YET.
Therefore the way I read the question is like this....
'When the first Android roms for NAND are released, will they be MUCH faster than the current SD builds? and is it best to just wait for that flashable rom rather than use a 'slow' SD version'?.
Well thats the way I read it, in which case you were unnecessarily flaming the OP?
I dunno.
either way... Proz00... just install it!
Basically he was asking if there was a a big difference with the rom and the speeds for the sd card.
Not an installable rom.
My question is why we have a Q&A thread and questions like these dont get posted there.
hazard99 said:
Basically he was asking if there was a a big difference with the rom and the speeds for the sd card.
Not an installable rom.
My question is why we have a Q&A thread and questions like these dont get posted there.
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thank you that was taken right off my lips
im wondered
i tested copying file from ROM to sd and it did around 1.6MB/s
[sd was class 2 2-2.5MB/s Bus capped to ~5MB/s]
so ROM is the bottle nech
so i asked my self if the ROM is not that fast why bother waiting for it
that all
but what about iops
Have you played with any Android based phones. Check out a Samsung galaxy s or a Droid x. Both cutting edge cpu's. The snapdragon is a little dated.
sent from my hd2.
Hi everyone!
I maybe want to get rid of my G1 with Biffmod 2.1 (and RAM Hack) for something more up to date.
Please let me hear your honest opinion:
Is a HD2 with WP7 (and Android in Dual Boot) already stable and good enough for daily use? Everything running (even Xbox Live and Games)?
I don´t want to spend 500 Euros or more on a new device. There are separate other things that i would know to do with that amount.
Thanks!
I am using my HD2 for approximately 1 month with android, after wp7 came out, i wasn't sure if it's a operating system that you really wan't to use, because android is open source, which is a big plus, but after testing it only 10 minutes, i fell in love with this os. It's simple and that's the thing that makes wp7 so unique. and if has nearly all these functions, that android also has. i would say for ~200€ or less a used HD2 with WP7 is more than a fair price... It's the deal of the decade!
The only thing you have to remember is, that you better buy an expensive class4 or better sdcard, because the sdcard is used with the internal memory as a raid system, and if you use compute-intensive applications you will recognize how a cheap sdcard slows the system down. But that's all
I would say start your new life with WP7
Silberpfeil3110 said:
I am using my HD2 for approximately 1 month with android, after wp7 came out, i wasn't sure if it's a operating system that you really wan't to use, because android is open source, which is a big plus, but after testing it only 10 minutes, i fell in love with this os. It's simple and that's the thing that makes wp7 so unique. and if has nearly all these functions, that android also has. i would say for ~200€ or less a used HD2 with WP7 is more than a fair price... It's the deal of the decade!
The only thing you have to remember is, that you better buy an expensive class4 or better sdcard, because the sdcard is used with the internal memory as a raid system, and if you use compute-intensive applications you will recognize how a cheap sdcard slows the system down. But that's all
I would say start your new life with WP7
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Actually, it seems quality class 2 cards work better than class 4, 6, or 10 cards... especially sandisk class 2. The modifications that a lot of manufacturers do to get high write speeds on higher class cards sometimes cause the random access speed to slow, and random access speed is whats important for wp7 to run smooth. I used a class 4 kingston and I was getting lags when scrolling and bad battery life... when I switch to sandisk class 2, smooth as butter and much better battery. Sandisk class 2 seems to be the best choice right now. Not saying other cards won't work, but looking through the forums, sandisk c2 seen to be consistently successful with everyone.
I would say..."most definitely able to use as a daily OS!" I've been using it now for nearly 2 weeks and I love how buttery smooth it is on our HD2. Then again, our phones are a beast themselves with just the hardware specs. Android is great and user customization is almost limitless, but the interface in WP7 has a lot to like. It's simplicity at its best. And there are a lot of apps that are quite interesting and useful, and the gaming is second to none with the XBOX feature. Even the regular games are getting better with each day that passes. Needless to say that the app store seems to be growing at a fast rate from what I can tell. And did I mention that it runs silky smooth and quick on our phones.
So, if you're asking whether it's worth it...if your an HD2 owner, it sure as hell is. And unlke any other phone we can have our cake and eat it too. Android and HD2 can both be on the phone now. So, you can literally switch OS's whenever you feel like it...and both run awesome on our phones.
But after trying WP7 and finally unlocking all features. I don't think I'm going to run Android anytime soon.
IMO the classy design of the HD2 is perfectly bonded with the classy modern design of the Metro UI on WP7, too lazy to go back to android now, though the battery is a tad disappointing and the volume needs to be fixed.
zarathustrax said:
Actually, it seems quality class 2 cards work better than class 4, 6, or 10 cards... especially sandisk class 2. The modifications that a lot of manufacturers do to get high write speeds on higher class cards sometimes cause the random access speed to slow, and random access speed is whats important for wp7 to run smooth. I used a class 4 kingston and I was getting lags when scrolling and bad battery life... when I switch to sandisk class 2, smooth as butter and much better battery. Sandisk class 2 seems to be the best choice right now. Not saying other cards won't work, but looking through the forums, sandisk c2 seen to be consistently successful with everyone.
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I totally agree with your statements, zarathustrax. Just like you i was using a Kingston class 4, and while wp7 was ok to use, market was slow, shutting down took a while etc. Since i switched to class 2 sandisk, total difference! Still testing battery life though. But this would be a great sd card to use with wp7.
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I totally agree with your statements, zarathustrax. Just like you i was using a Kingston class 4, and while wp7 was ok to use, market was slow, shutting down took a while etc. Since i switched to class 2 sandisk, total difference! Still testing battery life though. But this would be a great sd card to use with wp7.
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i used the sandisk c2 16gb card,, it was slow,, after then i changed to the transcend c6 8gb card, everything fine then.
I think card might not be the problem,,sometimes reinstall the wp7 could be a good idea before we claim xx card is incompatible to wp7 in hd2
wp7 in hd2 is stable now,, hope it last and survive in the coming update
Well, thank you guys for sharing your experiences! Now i definitely want a HD2
Today i´ll start looking at Ebay Germany for a mint used one. As the possibility to install everything you want on a HD2 is not so well known to the public, HD2s are still quite cheap to have at the moment
So this SD card might be alright?
http://www.amazon.de/SanDisk-microS...AJKI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296030373&sr=8-1
Careful
WP7 on the HD2, a few things to think about...
1) Will DFT continue to update the build
2) Camera has issues with HD2
3) Multi Touch is not as well supported on the HD2 as with HD7 or native WP7 devices
4) If number 1) is updated, then you would have to wait a while before any updates Microsoft introduce can be used on our HD2
The only reason buying an HD2 over an HD7 would be if you want a jack of all trades but not quiet a master of any one. The HD2 will never be a native Android HD or an native WP7, but a very good alternative to try both
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WP7 on the HD2, a few things to think about...
1) Will DFT continue to update the build
2) Camera has issues with HD2
3) Multi Touch is not as well supported on the HD2 as with HD7 or native WP7 devices
4) If number 1) is updated, then you would have to wait a while before any updates Microsoft introduce can be used on our HD2
The only reason buying an HD2 over an HD7 would be if you want a jack of all trades but not quiet a master of any one. The HD2 will never be a native Android HD or an native WP7, but a very good alternative to try both
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Agreed... I wouldn't buy the hd2 just to run wp7 off of, just like I wouldn't buy it just to run android off of. The hd2 will never run wp7 as good as a native device... we don't even know if wp7 will work on our phones after Microsoft updates wp7. The hd2 doesn't have as many colors as wp7 devices and will never have more than 2 point multitouch, which will make some apps that use multitouch incompatible with our phones. If you want to run wp7, get a wp7 device. Only get the hd2 if you want a phone to tinker with, and can accept that the phone will always have issues and bugs running these OS's that weren't meant for it. The hd2 can run a lot of OS's, but the only one it will ever run 100% is wm65. If you're looking to run a specific os, get a native phone.
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Ryoukou said:
Is a HD2 with WP7 (and Android in Dual Boot) already stable and good enough for daily use? Everything running (even Xbox Live and Games)?
I don´t want to spend 500 Euros or more on a new device. There are separate other things that i would know to do with that amount.
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HAHA I am in same boat, ie a new phone OR upgrades to my gaming PC.
I want to stick with my HD2 dual booting WP7 and CM7 Gingerbread.
So far it works well, only had one issue where my live id was longer able to purchase apps from market. I have switched to a different live id. this is looking increasingly like an issue at MS' end though.
Sure a native WP7 device would be much better, but there is a price difference of at least 300 Euros. Is this difference really worth it? Can´t believe it...
Ryoukou said:
Sure a native WP7 device would be much better, but there is a price difference of at least 300 Euros. Is this difference really worth it? Can´t believe it...
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Well, if you go with the HD2, you run a chance of WP7 not being functional on the HD2 in the future once microsoft updates it... and we probably won't get updates right away, if we even get them at all... and when updates happen and the HD2 can't update, it's possible market and live services may not work anymore. If you want it only for WP7, I would definitely say a few hundred dollars would be worth it. You wouldn't want to spend a couple hundred dollars on the HD2 only to have WP7 be made unfunctional in a month.
Now it may work fine... the devs may be able to release updated builds soon after MS releases updates... but I think it's just as likely that we will either be stuck with this version and not get any MS updates, or not getting updates and ms updating the market and live services to not work with phones that don't have the updates, rendering our wp7 build basicly a test build that can't do much.
Also, certain apps will never work on our phones correctly because we don't have the same multitouch native phones have... and we don't have all the colors native phones have.
Now, the HD2 is a good phone in itself even if WP7 isn't functional in the future since we can run android well and winmo 6.5. But if you only want it for wp7, realize that you are taking a risk with the HD2. I would personally spend the extra money for a native phone if I just wanted wp7. Just want to inform you of the situation before spending a lot of money on a HD2.
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Well, if you go with the HD2, you run a chance of WP7 not being functional on the HD2 in the future once microsoft updates it... and we probably won't get updates right away, if we even get them at all... and when updates happen and the HD2 can't update, it's possible market and live services may not work anymore. If you want it only for WP7, I would definitely say a few hundred dollars would be worth it. You wouldn't want to spend a couple hundred dollars on the HD2 only to have WP7 be made unfunctional in a month.
Now it may work fine... the devs may be able to release updated builds soon after MS releases updates... but I think it's just as likely that we will either be stuck with this version and not get any MS updates, or not getting updates and ms updating the market and live services to not work with phones that don't have the updates, rendering our wp7 build basicly a test build that can't do much.
Also, certain apps will never work on our phones correctly because we don't have the same multitouch native phones have... and we don't have all the colors native phones have.
Now, the HD2 is a good phone in itself even if WP7 isn't functional in the future since we can run android well and winmo 6.5. But if you only want it for wp7, realize that you are taking a risk with the HD2. I would personally spend the extra money for a native phone if I just wanted wp7. Just want to inform you of the situation before spending a lot of money on a HD2.
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Considering that the HD2 internal hardware is pretty much identical to the HD7, I would give DFT much higher than 50-50 odds that they'll be able to successfully port all updates to the HD7. Microsoft seems ambivalent as to whether that happens, and have signaled a commitment to continue allowing homebrew development. Those are the primary ingredients.
Given that the touchscreen and the camera focus are the only current bugs (especially this early in the game), I suspect they can also be remedied. From my testing, HD2 multitouch is not so finicky in the latest WM6.5x ROMs (you don't need to put both fingers down at the same time, for example). A homebrew camera replacement could easily accomplish touch-to-focus and speed up the snapshot lag.
I've gotta say, my doubts about this stuff are no greater than my doubts that WP7 will turn out to be a better OS than Android... which is why having the option to jump ship (or dual boot!) is pretty great. Let's wait and see if all current WP7 devices actually get the next two OS updates in a timely fashion.
So far, HD2 has got ADC while the Dell Venue Pro (for example) does not. If I had to bet on xda-devs putting their best foot forward on any device, it would be this one.
benjaminries said:
Considering that the HD2 internal hardware is pretty much identical to the HD7, I would give DFT much higher than 50-50 odds that they'll be able to successfully port all updates to the HD7. Microsoft seems ambivalent as to whether that happens, and have signaled a commitment to continue allowing homebrew development. Those are the primary ingredients.
Given that the touchscreen and the camera focus are the only current bugs (especially this early in the game), I suspect they can also be remedied. From my testing, HD2 multitouch is not so finicky in the latest WM6.5x ROMs (you don't need to put both fingers down at the same time, for example). A homebrew camera replacement could easily accomplish touch-to-focus and speed up the snapshot lag.
I've gotta say, my doubts about this stuff are no greater than my doubts that WP7 will turn out to be a better OS than Android... which is why having the option to jump ship (or dual boot!) is pretty great. Let's wait and see if all current WP7 devices actually get the next two OS updates in a timely fashion.
So far, HD2 has got ADC while the Dell Venue Pro (for example) does not. If I had to bet on xda-devs putting their best foot forward on any device, it would be this one.
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You may be right, and I agree the fact that the ability to boot multiple os's in case wp7 fails as an os makes the hd2 a great phone.... I wouldn't trade my hd2 for anything right now. I'm just saying for people only wanting wp7, we don't know for sure what will happen with wp7 on the hd2 in the future, and it may be worth it to get a native wp7 so you're guaranteed updates when they come and you'll have a guaranteed working wp7. But obviously if you want to dualboot and can accept the risk and fact it may not get updates or work 100%, the hd2 is a great phone and well worth it.
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I will give it a try. Hey, no risk, no fun!
Even if there will be no more WP7 updates in the future (which i cannot believe, MS still needs every WP7 user to increase their market shares), a HD2 still will be a much superior Android device than my G1 now, for just a small amount of money (if i have a little bit luck at buying/selling)
I use my HD2 a lot each day
It only runs Windows Phone 7
/nuffsaid
LOL. The HD2 is so much fun that it's simply the phone of all times already. I really would't trade it in right now and I'm happy I didn't sell it a few months ago as I usually do with my phones. It's the first phone to make it over a year in my pocket for the last 5 years and it will surely stay there for the months to come.
WP7 is surprisingly stable and bugfree and is my current first choice OS for the HD2. I am also pretty confident that all WP7 updates will be available to the HD2 users one way or another. It's not really that critical if you have to wait a few days after the official release. I'm also anxious to give MeeGo a try once it's in a usable state
Of course this is all true only if the prowd HD2 owner is:
1. Ready to accept the risk that he may not have any WP7 updates.
2. Ready to accept the risk of bricking his beloved phone at any time.
3. Ready to read alot about how to get all the fancy stuff working.
4. Ready to spend a night or day repartitioning SD cards, flashing a new Radio that could potentially give him 2 hrs more battery etc.
If you are not prepared for all this and more it's much better to get a native phone with your desired OS
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I will give it a try. Hey, no risk, no fun!
Even if there will be no more WP7 updates in the future (which i cannot believe, MS still needs every WP7 user to increase their market shares), a HD2 still will be a much superior Android device than my G1 now, for just a small amount of money (if i have a little bit luck at buying/selling)
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Exactly... if you like android too, the hd2 makes a great phone, cause you can have wp7 on internal memory, and partition your memory card so you can also run android from the sd. I have a 32gb card with 21gb for wp7 and 8gb for android... and I just got a second 32gb card to keep a couple android builds on, and ubuntu and wm65 when it comes out for sd booting.
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Hi guys,
I appreciate most of the things I'm going to ask have some explanation somewhere already on the forum, but I'm not entirely confident I know my way around well enough to get to where i want with my HD2.
So first off, I have a UK HD2, with HSPL2 and a couple month old WM energy rom flashed. I am running Android Froyo from my SD card, and i find myself using it most of the time. Because of this it seems sensible to get Android on my NAND and stop using WM. However I'm having some problems with my phone and I'm not sure if some may be caused by android.
Firstly the battery is lasting less than a day on a full charge without using any power craving features like wifi, gps or even a constant data connection. My phone is less than a year old, so hopefully HTC will issue me with a replacement [PENDING].
Secondly, when I do want to use the data connection I find I rarely get one where I normally would on WM.
Finally, I regularly get process terminated messages while running android from boot until the inevitable low-battery shutdown. (fairly sure this is purely android)
So, bearing this in mind, I would like to have a newer (preferably Gingerbread) build of android running from my NAND, presumably requiring MAGLDR. Would this APN settings thing, and 'rooting' I've read about recently help with these problems? Also I can't find anything about gingerbread with sense and assume this is because there have been no HTC gingerbread devices yet; is this the case? If so would you recommend Froyo with sense or gingerbread without? (personally I'm not keen on the curved sense home menu at the bottom, but i like the other features of sense)
A final thing to further complicate the situation is that I'd REALLY like to have a play with WP7, and last i read it had been ported and was running without LIVE services (making it practically useless), but then not too long ago a hack to make it pretend to be a HD7 was made allowing this. Is this a proper solution which makes the whole phone like a WP7 device (with the few performance niggles here and there) or is it like a demo or a shell of a phone which isn't really usable? The 'average user' review on the front page was posted before this LIVE hack, so i'm not sure it takes it into account.
So in summary, if I could get some guidance with the best choices in having Android NAND (and possibly WP7 on dual boot) covering what preparation and fixes I will need to apply it would be much appreciated. Possibly a list of tutorials I should follow in order, or even something more customised to my situation. Alternatively, if there is a guide covering all this I haven't found, that would be great!
As far as getting NAND working correctly check out this tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
And dual booting wp7 and android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
However if you dual boot wp7 would be the main os and you'll still be booting android from sd and as far as fixes and tweaks most of the time it depends which build your using I find that most of the time what works doesn't always work for others
Nintynuts said:
Hi guys,
I appreciate most of the things I'm going to ask have some explanation somewhere already on the forum, but I'm not entirely confident I know my way around well enough to get to where i want with my HD2.
So first off, I have a UK HD2, with HSPL2 and a couple month old WM energy rom flashed. I am running Android Froyo from my SD card, and i find myself using it most of the time. Because of this it seems sensible to get Android on my NAND and stop using WM. However I'm having some problems with my phone and I'm not sure if some may be caused by android.
Firstly the battery is lasting less than a day on a full charge without using any power craving features like wifi, gps or even a constant data connection. My phone is less than a year old, so hopefully HTC will issue me with a replacement [PENDING].
Secondly, when I do want to use the data connection I find I rarely get one where I normally would on WM.
Finally, I regularly get process terminated messages while running android from boot until the inevitable low-battery shutdown. (fairly sure this is purely android)
So, bearing this in mind, I would like to have a newer (preferably Gingerbread) build of android running from my NAND, presumably requiring MAGLDR. Would this APN settings thing, and 'rooting' I've read about recently help with these problems? Also I can't find anything about gingerbread with sense and assume this is because there have been no HTC gingerbread devices yet; is this the case? If so would you recommend Froyo with sense or gingerbread without? (personally I'm not keen on the curved sense home menu at the bottom, but i like the other features of sense)
A final thing to further complicate the situation is that I'd REALLY like to have a play with WP7, and last i read it had been ported and was running without LIVE services (making it practically useless), but then not too long ago a hack to make it pretend to be a HD7 was made allowing this. Is this a proper solution which makes the whole phone like a WP7 device (with the few performance niggles here and there) or is it like a demo or a shell of a phone which isn't really usable? The 'average user' review on the front page was posted before this LIVE hack, so i'm not sure it takes it into account.
So in summary, if I could get some guidance with the best choices in having Android NAND (and possibly WP7 on dual boot) covering what preparation and fixes I will need to apply it would be much appreciated. Possibly a list of tutorials I should follow in order, or even something more customised to my situation. Alternatively, if there is a guide covering all this I haven't found, that would be great!
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The battery issue is definitely an Android issue and I would recommend using a Froyo based Android build, which also has less problems with data connections. Unfortunately to say is that you might expect some problems using either Android or WP7 on the HD2, because it's still a WnMO device, although it can handle other OS's as well.
regards, Kuzibri
@SpiderVenom
Thanks for the links
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if you dual boot wp7 would be the main os and you'll still be booting android from sd
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I got the impression this may be the case, which emphasizes my question, is Windows Phone 7 on HD2 good enough to be usable, is it worth it?
@Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
The battery issue is definitely an Android issue and I would recommend using a Froyo based Android build, which also has less problems with data connections.
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Well I'm using Froyo now, and I have all these problems, and I think the battery problem currently exists on both WM and android, so I'm relatively convinced it's the battery.
Nintynuts said:
@SpiderVenom
Thanks for the links
I got the impression this may be the case, which emphasizes my question, is Windows Phone 7 on HD2 good enough to be usable, is it worth it?
@Kuzibri
Well I'm using Froyo now, and I have all these problems, and I think the battery problem currently exists on both WM and android, so I'm relatively convinced it's the battery.
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Well, I'm not really convinced that it's your battery. Check your SD Card and my advice would be: shut down device - remove SD Card - insert in to PC - backup you data to PC - do a slow format with PC - after formatting with PC, reinsert SD Card in device and power up - format SD Card with the device's SD formatting tool (windows - tools - SD Formatting tool). Power off device, remove SD Card and insert into PC and restore your data. Reinsert after that your SD Card in to device and power up again and see what your battery does. Should be much better.
regards, Kuzibri
OK, thanks, I will try it and get back to you, but this isn't the main point of my question, and I don't want the subject veering off on a tangent
Personally I don't think wp7 is worth it right now. The devs are doing great work on it but as of right now as a main OS I think because of the limitations and all the hoops and hurdles you have to go through for it. I'm sticking with NAND personally.
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Nintynuts said:
OK, thanks, I will try it and get back to you, but this isn't the main point of my question, and I don't want the subject veering off on a tangent
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you're right about that, but this can solve most of your battery problems.
Regarding WP7 on HD2: see reaction of SpiderVenom
Regarding Android on the HD2: well the NAND version is much better than the SD card one, but it's and will be a personal choice.
i personaly stick to WinMo 6.5.5 with Artemis ROM on it.
regards, Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
you're right about that, but this can solve most of your battery problems.
Regarding WP7 on HD2: see reaction of SpiderVenom
Regarding Android on the HD2: well the NAND version is much better than the SD card one, but it's and will be a personal choice.
i personaly stick to WinMo 6.5.5 with Artemis ROM on it.
regards, Kuzibri
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wp7 on hd2 is as useful as it is on any native wp7 device...actually, even better than any native device, because you can dual boot with a good android build off sd card...i would suggest you first try the sd card gingerbread ram version from mdj and superram froyo from darkstone..to checkout the differences. i personally use mdj desire hd 4.6 on sd card (it cannot be replaced by any non-sense build..tried them all, but had to come back to it)and wp7 on nand...
as for the battery, try the sd card format as described above.
also..try this....confirmed to work...but no one knows why it works.. charge your phone for 8 hrs (even though it says 100%)...then switch off phone...charge for 1hr..then switch on and charge for 1hr..........you will see a gross difference in battery
SpiderVenom said:
Personally I don't think wp7 is worth it right now. The devs are doing great work on it but as of right now as a main OS I think because of the limitations and all the hoops and hurdles you have to go through for it. I'm sticking with NAND personally.
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I agree completely with SpiderVenom.
Right now, you do have some hoop jumping to go through in order to get wp7 working correctly.
I'm also using MDJ's NAND Gingerbread install with zero issues and excellent battery life. It's also nice that all of the purchased android apps are usable on both of my android devices. (I have an Archos 5IT.)
Thanks for all your comments, I'm getting the impression (from SpideVenom and apallohadas) that getting WP7 going is troublesome, I would be interested to hear from people who have already jumped the necessary hoops (pakure?) to see if they think it's worth the effort. I don't mind jumping hoops as long as I only have to do it once (when I install).
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try the sd card gingerbread ram version from MDJ and superram froyo from darkstone
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I assume these are 'RAM' builds, and I guess they're somehow better than plain SD versions? Still not sure about the whole Gingerbread w/o Sense vs Froyo with Sense situation. Do others agree with these suggestions?
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Thanks, I'll try that too
Nintynuts said:
Thanks for all your comments, I'm getting the impression (from SpideVenom and apallohadas) that getting WP7 going is troublesome, I would be interested to hear from people who have already jumped the necessary hoops (pakure?) to see if they think it's worth the effort. I don't mind jumping hoops as long as I only have to do it once (when I install).
I assume these are 'RAM' builds, and I guess they're somehow better than plain SD versions? Still not sure about the whole Gingerbread w/o Sense vs Froyo with Sense situation. Do others agree with these suggestions?
Thanks, I'll try that too
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the ram versions are faster even than nand android
well, you wont get to know, unless you try wp7 for yourself..anyway, you can always fall back to wm6.5/android..its all one flash away.
I have been trying a NAND gingerbread build and it's running a lot better than froyo was off my SD, and the battery drain is reduced too.
However I'm finding android without sense intolerable. So I think I need to switch back to a froyo build (unless anyone knows of a Gingerbread build with sense).
I was wondering what's the best way of switching; Is there any way of keeping applications in tact? If not, is it possible to backup my existing NAND contents to SD card so I can flash it back if need be?
Also, is Android RAM ACTUALLY better/faster than NAND, and would it be worth having a WP7 NAND and Android from SD on RAM?
Finally, can anyone recommend a Froyo Sense RAM build? I find it very difficult to filter through the forum threads picking out the one that's right for me. I found a site which gives VERY brief overviews of the current builds, but it doesn't cover stuff like what's not working etc and not all the associated forum threads do.
isnt it a matter of personal choice...what may suit me the best may not be good for others...so its just keep trying till u figure which one is the best for yourself
My first HD2 got all messed up and overheated way too much and it was basically useless. Before it started overheating I installed HSPL 3.0 and went crazy on ROMs. Then Android came along and basically the same thing happened again.
I loved Android way more than any ROM I ever installed, so my question is, should I install a custom ROM when I receive my new HD2, or is it best recommended to do that? If so, why?
I'm only going to use NAND Android, but still, I just want to get some opinions. Also, on my 1st HD2 I never formatted my SD card, is that something crucial or no? Because my phone still ran the ROMs and still ran Android.
Random: Should I sell this new HD2 and get a better phone that comes with Android? I'm on T-Mobile, and I've been eying the Nexus One but I'm sure that if I buy it I'll greatly regret it cause something better will come out.
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My first HD2 got all messed up and overheated way too much and it was basically useless. Before it started overheating I installed HSPL 3.0 and went crazy on ROMs. Then Android came along and basically the same thing happened again.
I loved Android way more than any ROM I ever installed, so my question is, should I install a custom ROM when I receive my new HD2, or is it best recommended to do that? If so, why?
I'm only going to use NAND Android, but still, I just want to get some opinions. Also, on my 1st HD2 I never formatted my SD card, is that something crucial or no? Because my phone still ran the ROMs and still ran Android.
Random: Should I sell this new HD2 and get a better phone that comes with Android? I'm on T-Mobile, and I've been eying the Nexus One but I'm sure that if I buy it I'll greatly regret it cause something better will come out.
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If you were only planning on running Android I'd say the best thing is what you suggested, try and sell it or maybe trade it for a native Android device.
But at the same time if you want to use multi OS's in the future stick with your HD2
Well IMHO, the HD2 blows the N1 out of the water as far as perfomance is concerned. Seeing as the HD2 is crazy afforadle right now, and you can put WinMo, Android, Ubuntu, WP7 and MeeGo on it, I would definately stick with the HD2.
Awesome, thanks guys
So now I would just like to know should I load a ROM on it for better performance or for whatever other reason, even though I'm planning to only use Android? (Sorry if noob question)
Also, is formatting my SD card crucial?
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Awesome, thanks guys
So now I would just like to know should I load a ROM on it for better performance or for whatever other reason, even though I'm planning to only use Android? (Sorry if noob question)
Also, is formatting my SD card crucial?
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please! help me with these questions
if you run android and sd card, format sd card is very crucial. You have to format it the prefer or right way. I use window mobile to format. If you run with nand, i dont' think format matter.
What dealkk is saying is formatting the sd card with FAT32 is very crucial for running android off of one's sd card. So in NAND, it's not needed to format the sd in FAT32, but it could be useful if you do.
hey guys, getting some errors on my first rom install i did last night so gonna replace my 2gig micro sd card, the one that came free with the phone.
seen this on ebay, any advice recommendations would be very much appreciated
Joyflash 16GB Micro SD HC Card Class 10
£16.99
i would recommend searching as there is litterally hundreds of posts on this
but whilst im here, i wouldnt bother with that
Here is the truth of the matter,
There is no confirmed cards available on the market (potentially AT&T are selling one branded for it but it costs quite a bit and i dont know anyone thats had one)
Second thing, there is no confirmed working cards on the market ( yes repeating was intentional)
The only confirmed card is one that has been tried in a Device and has been proven to work
You have just as much luck getting a card working than one that doesnt however you can increase your chances of getting one that works by sticking to class 2 or 4
im not going in to the details of why... but that is not to say a class 10 wont work, many people have had them working, but it appears that class 2 and 4 have a higher chance of working.
Brand doesnt mean anything, some folk are saying sandisk are the best, however from my point of view this isnt the case as 2 of my cards that dont work are sandisk, inshort it depends on many things which ultimately brings teh whole thing down to luck!
My 16gig Class 2 Sandisk works fine... OS didn't reject it, I get no errors and I get no chugging when viewing sizable video files off the card (1.8gig rip of avatar for instance)...
This is strange as in the same HD2 with the stock WM 6.5 ROM, the card was slow as hell and even populating views for pictures and videos was hell slow...
I ordered a class 6 via eBay so I can diskcopy to the faster card but I'm know its only for my peace of mind...
A class 4 or 6 should do the job but stick to better brands such as Sandisk or Kingston...
WM was crippled by poor driver support, the HD2 at the time of its launch had an amazing graphics potential but we never had drivers, even the XDA ones were only touching the surface of its potential, WP7 uses that potential hence when graphics and video seem more fluid, its a shame, WM is an amazing OS if it only had some TLC, i believe thats why MS has had to lock down the WP7 OS because carriers / HTC / QC screwed WM and the irony was that MS got the blame for it all
whoops sorry posted in wrong thread, your right back on topic!
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WM was crippled by poor driver support, the HD2 at the time of its launch had an amazing graphics potential but we never had drivers, even the XDA ones were only touching the surface of its potential, WP7 uses that potential hence when graphics and video seem more fluid, its a shame, WM is an amazing OS if it only had some TLC, i believe thats why MS has had to lock down the WP7 OS because carriers / HTC / QC screwed WM and the irony was that MS got the blame for it all
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Not wanting to go too far off topic, I'll say this...
When using an 8gig no-name card I had no troubles with old WM... It only slowed when using the 16gig Class 2 Sandisk...
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Not wanting to go too far off topic, I'll say this...
When using an 8gig no-name card I had no troubles with old WM... It only slowed when using the 16gig Class 2 Sandisk...
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its luck, i dont think people understand that, perhaps because we all operate on here in a world full of 1's and 0's.
personally i think it just highlights that companys will put on a shelf anything they like of minor but questionable levels of quality