Questions for owners of the 32GB (or more) versions - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

1. Can you use 'normal" ROMs and recoveries? Any different experience on getting root and other "goodies"? Any problems in custom ROMs or similar system stuff? Any problems in any normal (or system/root) program?
2. What is your overall feeling - was it worth it?

xclub_101 said:
1. Can you use 'normal" ROMs and recoveries? Any different experience on getting root and other "goodies"? Any problems in custom ROMs or similar system stuff? Any problems in any normal (or system/root) program?
2. What is your overall feeling - was it worth it?
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Dear xclub_101,
I own a GT-I9500 32 gb version...
1. Yes, you can use official roms, custom roms and kernels also recoveries without any problems... Root, etc. all are working... I am using Phoniex Rom and Adam kernel also Philz recovery... Very happy...
2. It really worths so go for 32 gb version... You will have around 23 gb free space after a fresh format... If you add a 64 gb sdcard then you can fly to the moon...
Sent from my iAmiga...

xclub_101 said:
1. Can you use 'normal" ROMs and recoveries? Any different experience on getting root and other "goodies"? Any problems in custom ROMs or similar system stuff? Any problems in any normal (or system/root) program?
2. What is your overall feeling - was it worth it?
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The only time difference is that if you every need to flash a PIT file, you'll need the one for the 32gb version. Or your phone will have the memory partition of a 16gb version.
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Thank you everybody that answered.
PROTOCHIP said:
2. It really worths so go for 32 gb version... You will have around 23 gb free space after a fresh format... If you add a 64 gb sdcard then you can fly to the moon...
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Yes, that was to be expected - but currently the difference from 16GB to 32GB is about 150 (EUR or USD, depending on your zone), while a 64GB microSD is just 50, so you are basically paying 12x the price/GB
So let me rephrase:
- are you using anything that really fills your internalSD partition?
- is there anything to dual-boot the S4? since on S3 that was one of my main internalSD uses, and even with that I never got to less than 4GB free!
- are the 32GB eMMC versions faster in any way?
- are the 32GB eMMC versions better in any way at error correction?

xclub_101 said:
Thank you everybody that answered.
Yes, that was to be expected - but currently the difference from 16GB to 32GB is about 150 (EUR or USD, depending on your zone), while a 64GB microSD is just 50, so you are basically paying 12x the price/GB
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They are NOT the same kind of flash.
Try to speed test both and you will see why.
Internal flash read/writes at about 50 mb/s while external sdcard write at about 10 (class 10) or less.

Zibri said:
They are NOT the same kind of flash.
Try to speed test both and you will see why.
Internal flash read/writes at about 50 mb/s while external sdcard write at about 10 (class 10) or less.
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Of course internal vs external are not the same
I was actually asking if internal 16GB is the same (speed, reliability / error correction) as internal 32GB!
Oh, and extra-note - there is a 64GB Sandisk extreme that claims 90mb/s read and 40mb/s write or so (non-phone tests) - I doubt S3 can get/keep those rates on it and it is twice more expensive than the 64GB Sandisk Ultra - which in very real-world tests is around 20mb/s read, over 10 mb/s write.

Oops. Sorry then.

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[REF] 16GB MicroSD is working on elf

just i want to confirm that SanDisk 16GB is working on my elf, so no need to iPhone .
does it work with card full upto to 12 GB ?? and above
wildroses11 said:
does it work with card full upto to 12 GB ?? and above
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Technically it should work even all the way upto 16GB. But it really depends on what you put on the card.

[Q] internal memory

how much free memory storage for multimedia and app? my lg optimus x2 have 8gb internal memory and that's 5.5 GB free for media file and 1.4 GB for application
Stock ROM/Kernel (JB 4.1.1) 16GB version
13.24GB
I hear the 8GB has around 5GB.
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theoneofgod said:
Stock ROM/Kernel (JB 4.1.1) 16GB version
13.24GB
I hear the 8GB has around 5GB.
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and how much free memory for application in your 16gb version?
amdultra said:
and how much free memory for application in your 16gb version?
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13.24GB
thename1000 said:
13.24GB
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13.24 GB does that include application too? or if that's internal sd card how much free memory you get for application?
On android 3.0+ there is no longer separate partitions.
You have the full space for your apps and app data.
the /sdcard is emulated on the internal memory for app data and apps can use the full 5-13GB of storage space.

Using 64 Gb SIM on Samsung Galaxy Tab 2

I have a 64 Gb Sandisk Micro SD card with an extFAT partition that works ok on my Rooted Samsung Galaxy S3 handset. The micro SD is however not recognised on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2. Reading through the forum I see it is possible to use a 64 Gb MicroSD card on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2. What I am not clear on is what I need to do to get the 64Gb MicroSD card to be recognised by my Tab 2. Can you clarify if I need to do one or more of the following :
Root the Tab 2 ?
Convert partition to fat32 ?
Change to another ROM ?
Or is there something else I need to do ?
whichwayup :fingers-crossed:
whichwayup said:
I have a 64 Gb Sandisk Micro SD card with an extFAT partition that works ok on my Rooted Samsung Galaxy S3 handset. The micro SD is however not recognised on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2. Reading through the forum I see it is possible to use a 64 Gb MicroSD card on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2. What I am not clear on is what I need to do to get the 64Gb MicroSD card to be recognised by my Tab 2. Can you clarify if I need to do one or more of the following :
Root the Tab 2 ?
Convert partition to fat32 ?
Change to another ROM ?
Or is there something else I need to do ?
whichwayup :fingers-crossed:
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You can try KK-Boot core + exFAT addon. Are you still on 4.0.4 ICS?
ketut.kumajaya said:
You can try KK-Boot core + exFAT addon. Are you still on 4.0.4 ICS?
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Thanks for your reply.
Yes I am still on 4.04. Should change this ?
Remember there is one downside, don't plan to put any file on it that is 4GB or larger. It won't work and will put a lot of lag on your tab. Been there, done that...
whichwayup said:
I have a 64 Gb Sandisk Micro SD card with an extFAT partition that works ok on my Rooted Samsung Galaxy S3 handset. The micro SD is however not recognised on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2. Reading through the forum I see it is possible to use a 64 Gb MicroSD card on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2. What I am not clear on is what I need to do to get the 64Gb MicroSD card to be recognised by my Tab 2. Can you clarify if I need to do one or more of the following :
Root the Tab 2 ?
Convert partition to fat32 ?
Change to another ROM ?
Or is there something else I need to do ?
whichwayup :fingers-crossed:
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just format your card fat 32 in a computer and should be ok
whichwayup said:
Thanks for your reply.
Yes I am still on 4.04. Should change this ?
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JB firmware support exFAT natively.
ketut.kumajaya said:
JB firmware support exFAT natively.
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Would help if someone would just create a custom JB rom for my i497... LoL
Oditius said:
Remember there is one downside, don't plan to put any file on it that is 4GB or larger. It won't work and will put a lot of lag on your tab. Been there, done that...
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wonder if this is the reason I have lag running many stock type roms. 64 mb card filled with music and tv shows. but no single files over 1 gig.. hum???
spiritcrusher33 said:
wonder if this is the reason I have lag running many stock type roms. 64 mb card filled with music and tv shows. but no single files over 1 gig.. hum???
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Don't know, dropped a 32GB card in it and it is back to normal. Both of them was Class 10, So no slow speeds there.
Yeah might drop my 32GB card back in to see what happens..tonight if i have time.. dont know what class it is though. lol
whichwayup said:
Using 64 Gb SIM
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loool
Hi
Any know about differences from MicroSDHC and MicroSD?
littmanr said:
Hi
Any know about differences from MicroSDHC and MicroSD?
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The main difference is the capacity, as HC stands for high capacity. If you want more differences, the easiest way is to Google SDHC, or use the Wikipedia...
Btw, I wasn't planning on hitting that thanks button...
And about the thread: I've never heard of 64 GB sim card...

[Q] low internal memory in the new nand roms ?!

Hi Guys
I am in a really deep problem so I will explain as much as I can
I have the EU htc hd2 and I tried so many roms from xda threads
first I was happy that my phone can run android (it was froyo 2.2 by the way)
I had big internal memory fast performance everything
Now I have a huge problem I want to install the new roms like 4.0 , 4.1 and 4.2
But I can't install it on nand as I must make a partition like 250 mb or 300 mb so there is too small memory for me to install apps
So I read other threads that talked about this problems and they recommended to use the [email protected] method
But the problem that they said that solution for sd cards that have class 6 or above and Mine IS 4 :crying:
So I appreciate any help from you guys cause you are the best on the internet and the hd2 is a legend
sorry for my bad English I am from the middle east "Egypt"
No, your SD card doesn't need to be any specific class. Class 4 will do just fine.
I think you're talking about NativeSD? Well, even if you are, class 4 is actually good for NativeSD.
Either way, your sd card will do the job. Happy flashing.
Marvlesz said:
No, your SD card doesn't need to be any specific class. Class 4 will do just fine.
I think you're talking about NativeSD? Well, even if you are, class 4 is actually good for NativeSD.
Either way, your sd card will do the job. Happy flashing.
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:good: Thanks Marvlesz For your help I really glad that my sd can do the job
Do you recommend me any rom 4.1 or 4.2 to flash as I have too many and don't know which to flash

[Q]more than 24,8 GB of space

I have the 32GB version D802, rooted, with pardus HD rom v6. SD card total space is 24.84. Is there any way I can increase the total space available on the device? I know you're not supposed to get the whole 32GB, depending on the filesystem, however I think losing almost 8GB of space is ridiculous. For example, the 32GB version of the IPAD mini leaves you with 28GB of user accesible space.
Yea but iPad is not the same as android the os is themed highly compared to stock aosp and takes about 4-5gb then there's bloat and android reserves about 2gb to install apps from play store
Sent from my LG-D800 running stock kk, rooted with philz using XDA app
So there's no way, huh ?
Install cm that has a lot less bloat
Sent from my LG-VS980 using Tapatalk
bogdyro said:
So there's no way, huh ?
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I uninstalled many bloatware/system apps using titanium backup pro and it doesn't increase the size of the storage. I think it has to do with the partitioning of the storage, which 7.2, where all system file is stored, with some allowance so that if you manage to full the storage the phone will not die. I'm just guessing. LOL :angel:
spinninbsod said:
Install cm that has a lot less bloat
Sent from my LG-VS980 using Tapatalk
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For whatever reason LG decided to set up this phone. The way they did that wont do any. The system partition will stay overly large even if you do use a smaller Rom.
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk
Hmm thats weird it is lg though not that surprised
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spinninbsod said:
Hmm thats weird it is lg though not that surprised
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Yep. It is annoying. Strange having my old 32 GB galaxy nexus having the full 28 GB but my far newer G2 having only 24.
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First of all: Phone's tottal memmory is 32 000 000 000 bytes which devided by 1024 = 31*250*000 KBytes, which /1024 = 30*517 MBytes, which /1024 = 29.8 GBytes TOTTAL Formated space !
Free Space for user is ~ 24.8 GB
Which means that ALL the partitions in phone's memmory (apart form SDCARD partition) combined are ~ 5 GB
In this 5 GB you have ROM (~2.5 GB), Bootloader, Recovery partition...
But, not all the partitions are full with data, they all have some free space in them, but that free space is not populated to phone tottal free memmory because it is not accessible by the user
Just found this thread about resizing the system partition. Kind of a taboo subject i guess. No one is giving a positive answer.
My very first Android device, the NOOKcolor 8GB, 1st gen, so technically, 'bout 7GB, they reserved 5GB for system and data partitions, left us 2GB for end-user storage.
Yeah, enjoy that.
Good thing was there was a way to re-partition.
For the G2, I haven't heard anyone mentioned about how to.
XxZombiePikachu said:
Yea but iPad is not the same as android the os is themed highly compared to stock aosp and takes about 4-5gb then there's bloat and android reserves about 2gb to install apps from play store
Sent from my LG-D800 running stock kk, rooted with philz using XDA app
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IOS is different to android. They have different apps and config that contribute to system space of the phone.

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