I created this topic to get idea about how to utilize the allotted bandwidth.
Point reasons which could lower your data rate or bandwidth.
In this thread it would be possible to get technical thoughts of members. :thumbup:
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jitkr said:
I created this topic to get idea about how to utilize the allotted bandwidth.
Point reasons which could lower your data rate or bandwidth.
In this thread it would be possible to get technical thoughts of members. :thumbup:
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According to me in wired broadband your SNR should be high enough , so that you never get frequent disconnections, Have no experience about the wireless connection , i'll keep eye on this thread to get idea about the best utilization of network.
@jitkr, once i searched and found that on windows operating system we can disable the reserved bandwidth of system to gain maximum data rate from Distributer.
use wired connection instead of wireless, definitely it'll save lots of bandwidth :laugh:
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According to me in wired broadband your SNR should be high enough , so that you never get frequent disconnections, Have no experience about the wireless connection , i'll keep eye on this thread to get idea about the best utilization of network.
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Is it possible to supply power at user end to receive strong signal.
I think this can lower the noises in signal.
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It depends on the kind of connection you got. Usually a wired signal will give more bandwidth than wireless considering a wired signal can give you a Gigabit from your router to your computer if you get the right kind. Wireless N however should give you decent bandwidth if you have a slow enough connection (like mine is Cox 25Mb/s down cable, so it's perfect). The biggest things are making sure you have a good router to begin with if you have wireless (I don't have N but I use a WRT54G on dd-wrt and it's pretty fast). Other then that, make sure you have good line quality from your modem to the ISP. If you have a lot of noise, you can get a lot of disconnects and such.
A few other things: disable TCP automatic tuning if you have a Windows higher than XP. If you can manually do it, increase your TCP window size to a higher level. At work when we tell people to increase speeds of Windows file transfers to the servers we sell, we have them try a TCP window size of like 500kB and it seems to help. Disable ipv6 completely from your pc and router.
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hi all i have read that the htc hd2 with a reg edit can run wireless N but is this true, can i use with with a 802.11N router, or will it only work with a 802.11G router,
i need to know as i plan to buy a long range router for work so i can stream DI.FM radio to my htc from my pc and the distance is around 50meter so i want to buy the bets possible router so i can listen to the radio glitch free
info on work network:-
1) 6mb speed via a cable
2) approx 50meters from where i walk / work
It might work at 802.11N standard, but unless your broadband speed is greater than 54Mbs then you'll have nothing to gain. Your router should be backwards compatible to allow 802.11G connection which the HD2 definitely supports, this should be good for speeds up to 54Mbs dependant upon your connection quality.
You'd still get the benefit of greater range, which would in turn mean you'd get a stronger connection. Even a really strong wifi connection on my PS3 only gives me about 700KB/s, despite being on a 20Mb connection (which I can use fully on my wired PC).
I do think, however, that 50m is somewhat optimistic, despite the claims of how good the signal should be (I believe it claims to do 250m outdoors!)
I'd love to try this myself, but don't have a wireless-N router, so can't. I'd be very interested to hear how you get on with this.
Works with ~700kb/s*
I was sending data between laptop and phone with wifi only.
well im going to take my THOMSON TG585v7 i have for my home internet to work i got it with my bethere internet, for free of the provider so im going to try it and see what i get with this,
i have no idea how good this router is though
http://www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/dsl-modems-gateways/products/product-detail.php?id=161
it says Typical Indoor coverage: 60m
î use a BELKIN N1 http://www.belkin.com/pressroom/releases/uploads/07_11_07N1Vision.html
and my HD2 has no problems connecting
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î use a BELKIN N1 http://www.belkin.com/pressroom/releases/uploads/07_11_07N1Vision.html
and my HD2 has no problems connecting
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how far indoors do you get a signal
router is downstairs and even when i'm upstairs i still get signal
Same. Got a Linksys WRT610N. With N-band enabled, not only is the signal strength better, but surfing the net and leeching YouTube vids just flies even though the Internet connection itself is only 12Mbps.
ok all ive decided to buy this for my work to send a N signal to my phone
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Edim...multi-function-wireless-access-point-repeater
my broadband speed is only 6mb at work but i just need the range so i hope this will get me at least 50meters walking distance lol.
Seems to only have 2 (small) antenna's though.
My Asus WL500W has 3 antenna's and has a great signal; whole house and garden covered.
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=nrsjewu78wdDXMOA
Running DD-WRT this beauty does it's job very well.
You could, if the signal is not strong enough or has to get through walls, consider getting a directional antenna to hook up to your router.
This will greatly increase the range.
I have successfully tethered my epic to my computer and can download at about 40kbps from the device. (Even 3g in my area is poor)
Now that is not really that important to most people but considering my max download speed with my DSL is 130kbps it makes a huge difference.
Now hypothetically with both DSL and PDAnet connected I should be achieving somewhere around 160kbps.
I am using Vista and both connections are active and show up in the Network Manager but It doesn't seem I can "combine" the bandwidth of the two. I have tried "Merging" the connections and also "Bridging" them.
For example I'm downloading a steam game right now. Its at a steady 128kbps I can look at the status of each of the connections and it doesn't seem I'm pulling anything from the phone. But when I disconnect the DSL I can pull 40 from the phone.
I know its slim pickins on both ends but any extra bandwidth I can get will help. Why can't I combine the bandwidth of the two successfully?
By the way, this is my first post here. I got my epic about a month ago and have been lurking ever since. I look forward to hanging around here more and thanks for any suggestions in advance.
You are going to need to share that connection via wifi to a wireless adapter hooked into a dual wan wireless router with your dsl hooked into the other wan input.
While hooked up you will most likely have to disable dhcp and somehow manually configure the ip's on both connection to the router with load balancing enabled.
In my opinion this is hardly worth any of the trouble and alot harder than what I think you would be willing to want to deal with in the long run.
I would consider possible upgrading your dsl a little faster and just consider your cell connection a convenience for when you need it elsewhere other than home.
Yeah doesn't sound worth it...
1.5mb DSL is the highest available connection here which is what I have.
I've been complaining for 3 years about it heh..
Thanks man..
Is there a way to use my home internet to my phone when im away from home. I know its kinda impossible but just curious to know if anyone found a way to do that.
If you have wifi then you can use it withn some meters like 100m but that too depends on your wifi range. But if you are thinking something like using home's wifi from any place dat is too far then it is impossible
Thought so... maybe someone could come up with that soon in near future
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Is there a way to use my home internet to my phone when im away from home. I know its kinda impossible but just curious to know if anyone found a way to do that.
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You mean so that you're not using mobile data at all?
This will always be impossible; unless of course you could extend WiFi range to miles and beyond. This is also not likely to happen, consumer devices such as routers and access points have strict limits on broadcast power. Any more than that, and you need to have a license. Also, considering the fact that the WiFi band is already congested at low power levels (we're talking about milliwatts), I don't think your neighbours would appreciate having a several kilowatt radio transmitter blocking their wireless signal.
Needless to say, your phone would also need a huge transmitter in order for two-way communication with the base station to work. This is not going to happen on battery power.
Now, if you're trying to access your home internet connection, you can use a Virtual Private Network or SSH tunnelling. But there's no way you're going to avoid having to use mobile data.
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You mean so that you're not using mobile data at all?
This will always be impossible; unless of course you could extend WiFi range to miles and beyond. This is also not likely to happen, consumer devices such as routers and access points have strict limits on broadcast power. Any more than that, and you need to have a license. Also, considering the fact that the WiFi band is already congested at low power levels (we're talking about milliwatts), I don't think your neighbours would appreciate having a several kilowatt radio transmitter blocking their wireless signal.
Needless to say, your phone would also need a huge transmitter in order for two-way communication with the base station to work. This is not going to happen on battery power.
Now, if you're trying to access your home internet connection, you can use a Virtual Private Network or SSH tunnelling. But there's no way you're going to avoid having to use mobile data.
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Can I use my mobile data but increase my speed which is similar to my home internet connection?
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Can I use my mobile data but increase my speed which is similar to my home internet connection?
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Google Chrome for Android has a feature called "Reduce Data Usage" which uses Google's servers to compress data and thus reduce loading times and data usage.
You can find this feature by going to Chrome settings -> Bandwidth Management -> "Reduce Data Usage"
For me, it reduced data usage by 32%. As the amount of data transferred is proportional to wait times, less data = faster.
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Google Chrome for Android has a feature called "Reduce Data Usage" which uses Google's servers to compress data and thus reduce loading times and data usage.
You can find this feature by going to Chrome settings -> Bandwidth Management -> "Reduce Data Usage"
For me, it reduced data usage by 32%. As the amount of data transferred is proportional to wait times, less data = faster.
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I should try this method, thanks but is there a way to speed up my wifi hotspot using my phone data?
DigitalCocaine said:
I should try this method, thanks but is there a way to speed up my wifi hotspot using my phone data?
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No. You can't multiplex/bridge a WiFi connection and mobile data connection easily. And even if you could, it's unlikely that you would notice an increase in speed. I'm afraid the only solution for that is to get a better device or better network.
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No. You can't multiplex/bridge a WiFi connection and mobile data connection easily. And even if you could, it's unlikely that you would notice an increase in speed. I'm afraid the only solution for that is to get a better device or better network.
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Actually, you can: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...d-and-destroy-your-data-cap-faster-than-ever/
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Actually, you can: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...d-and-destroy-your-data-cap-faster-than-ever/
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Yes, this might speed up downloads slightly but it doesn't help you browse the web any faster. Even if you could pull a couple extra megabits/sec, the latency wouldn't be divisible in two.
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Yes, this might speed up downloads slightly but it doesn't help you browse the web any faster. Even if you could pull a couple extra megabits/sec, the latency wouldn't be divisible in two.
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Oh, yeah that I know. I meant for downloads.
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Is there a way to use my home internet to my phone when im away from home. I know its kinda impossible but just curious to know if anyone found a way to do that.
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I found a solution . Take a long cable and connect to your router . And get internet from the end of that cable
Just kidding
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Lots of stuttering, input lag and low bandwidth warnings using 5GHz band with router only four meters away.
Thought this would be a good way to game on my TV instead of a monitor but it seems to be useless unless you content them using an Ethernet cable.
Would be nice if they highlighted this in more reviews, it seemed to work fairly well with the shield tablet but it's worse on shield tv.
Even over wifi the streaming stutters, I'm regretting buying this.
Apparently a ping of 4 isn't high enough for smooth gaming.
Hello!
I bought some TP-Link AV1200's and it's working nicely over these. I must add I'm living in a newly built house so the cabling will be up to par. Also my PC is on a different loop to my Shield but the throughput is still excellent.
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Lots of stuttering, input lag and low bandwidth warnings using 5GHz band with router only four meters away.
Thought this would be a good way to game on my TV instead of a monitor but it seems to be useless unless you content them using an Ethernet cable.
Would be nice if they highlighted this in more reviews, it seemed to work fairly well with the shield tablet but it's worse on shield tv.
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Depends on your router actually. Have you tried connecting to the closer band? instead of 5. Also check your settings because routers now and days saves devices addresses which can slow down the process or you could configure your settings to your shields IP and give that top priority.
Are both the shield and pc on the same wireless network? I think it's worth it to run an Ethernet to the shield (or the computer) so you're not making the router/access point congested. A high quality wireless device with mimo capabilities might perform ok.
My setup has shield connected by Ethernet and my laptop on wifi, no issues here even using 1080p and high settings
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Are both the shield and pc on the same wireless network? I think it's worth it to run an Ethernet to the shield (or the computer) so you're not making the router/access point congested. A high quality wireless device with mimo capabilities might perform ok.
My setup has shield connected by Ethernet and my laptop on wifi, no issues here even using 1080p and high settings
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I've tried with an Ethernet cable, sometimes it's very smooth but lags randomly which ruins the experience.
The software isn't up-to the job.
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Depends on your router actually. Have you tried connecting to the closer band? instead of 5. Also check your settings because routers now and days saves devices addresses which can slow down the process or you could configure your settings to your shields IP and give that top priority.
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I can't even got it play nicely over Ethernet, testing over wifi further is a waste of time at this point.
So it looks that the problem is the router or internet connection. And not the shield. It's just a guess.
Can you test streams with a Laptop or PC via Wlan and Lan? Then you can find out
Thats strange I have had no issue with this good to know through.
Game streaming requires a 30 - 50 Mbps consistent connection (I believe). When it comes to wireless networking there are a lot of factors that affect your max. speed (connectivity protocol - a/b/g/n/ac ?, distance from router or access point, # of connected devices, interference, etc..,) ...
Actual wireless speeds vary significantly from the above theoretical maximum speeds due to:
distance - distance from the access point, as well as any physical obstructions, such as walls, signal-blocking or reflecting materials affect signal propagation and reduce speed
interference - other wireless networks and devices in the same frequency in the same area affect performance
shared bandwidth - available bandwidth is shared between all users on the same wireless network
Below is a breakdown of actual real-life average speeds you can expect from wireless routers within a reasonable distance, with low interference and small number of simultaneous clients:
802.11b - 2-3 Mbps downstream, up to 5-6 Mbps with some vendor-specific extensions.
802.11g - ~20 Mbps downstream
802.11n - 40-50 Mbps typical, varying greatly depending on configuration, whether it is mixed or N-only network, the number of bonded channels, etc. Specifying a channel, and using 40MHz channels can help achieve 70-80Mbps with some newer routers. Up to 100 Mbps achievable with more expensive commercial equipment with 8x8 arrays, gigabit ports, etc.
802.11ac - 70-100+ Mbps typical, higher speeds possible over short distances without many obstacles, with newer generation 802.11ac routers, and client adapters capable of multiple streams.
Source : http://www.speedguide.net/faq/what-is-the-actual-real-life-speed-of-wireless-374
I'm streaming games and have no issue. Using a 5ghz AC router.
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I've tried with an Ethernet cable, sometimes it's very smooth but lags randomly which ruins the experience.
The software isn't up-to the job.
I can't even got it play nicely over Ethernet, testing over wifi further is a waste of time at this point.
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Do you know what model router you have? Stock firmware?Custom firmware?
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Lots of stuttering, input lag and low bandwidth warnings using 5GHz band with router only four meters away.
Thought this would be a good way to game on my TV instead of a monitor but it seems to be useless unless you content them using an Ethernet cable.
Would be nice if they highlighted this in more reviews, it seemed to work fairly well with the shield tablet but it's worse on shield tv.
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Works perfect fot me with asus router downstairs
I've been gaming loads through GeForce NOW, it's connected via ethernet through a pair of cheap homeplugs to the router.
Our ADSL is awful too, only 4Mbps asynchronous (500KB/s download bandwidth, about 50KB/s upload bandwidth).
I'm actually amazed it works so well - the video stream itself occasionally has artefacts or gets a bit pixelated, but it never stutters and never has any lag responding to gamepad inputs.
We're used to occasionally pixelated video when our ADSL fluctuates while watching youtube videos etc. anyway so this isn't a big deal.
It takes a bit of getting used to when gaming, but the overall experience is still fun and I accept that the video quality will get better when we move to a home with fibre.
Does anyone know how GeForce NOW actually manages to achieve such a native response time to gamepad inputs?
I find it truly remarkable that I can press a button on the gamepad and not notice any latency with the reaction on screen.
Surely any action must be sending packets over our crappy ADSL to NVIDIA's servers, routing them to the game's virtual machine, causing an effect in game, then streaming the video back over our crappy ADSL to be rendered on the TV.
I'd expect 100-200 milliseconds of latency at either side of that transaction (even over UDP), which I'd expect to ruin the gaming experience of real time games such as FPS / racing games.
rk73 said:
Works perfect fot me with asus router downstairs
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Also using an Asus Router, it still sucked.
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Game streaming requires a 30 - 50 Mbps consistent connection (I believe). When it comes to wireless networking there are a lot of factors that affect your max. speed (connectivity protocol - a/b/g/n/ac ?, distance from router or access point, # of connected devices, interference, etc..,) ...
Actual wireless speeds vary significantly from the above theoretical maximum speeds due to:
distance - distance from the access point, as well as any physical obstructions, such as walls, signal-blocking or reflecting materials affect signal propagation and reduce speed
interference - other wireless networks and devices in the same frequency in the same area affect performance
shared bandwidth - available bandwidth is shared between all users on the same wireless network
Below is a breakdown of actual real-life average speeds you can expect from wireless routers within a reasonable distance, with low interference and small number of simultaneous clients:
802.11b - 2-3 Mbps downstream, up to 5-6 Mbps with some vendor-specific extensions.
802.11g - ~20 Mbps downstream
802.11n - 40-50 Mbps typical, varying greatly depending on configuration, whether it is mixed or N-only network, the number of bonded channels, etc. Specifying a channel, and using 40MHz channels can help achieve 70-80Mbps with some newer routers. Up to 100 Mbps achievable with more expensive commercial equipment with 8x8 arrays, gigabit ports, etc.
802.11ac - 70-100+ Mbps typical, higher speeds possible over short distances without many obstacles, with newer generation 802.11ac routers, and client adapters capable of multiple streams.
Source : http://www.speedguide.net/faq/what-is-the-actual-real-life-speed-of-wireless-374
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Another thing to note, WiFi is a half-duplex CSMA/CA connection. It can either send or receive at one time, not both, like Ethernet. Collision Sense will "listen" to see if anyone is broadcasting. Collision Avoidance will set a random timeframe, when transmission will retry. While this is happening extremely fast, there's a chance to lag there. If you must use WiFi instead of ethernet, try to dedicate a separate SSID for streaming, and make sure that nobody else connecting to that particular one. Try to set it to uncongested channel as well.
Unless you have one of the newer routers mu-mimo and other new software helps keep wifi onpar with ethernet
Works fine here. Asus Router is several rooms over and using a USB wifi stick in PC.
So its probably something other than the shield.
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Another thing to note, WiFi is a half-duplex CSMA/CA connection. It can either send or receive at one time, not both, like Ethernet. Collision Sense will "listen" to see if anyone is broadcasting. Collision Avoidance will set a random timeframe, when transmission will retry. While this is happening extremely fast, there's a chance to lag there. If you must use WiFi instead of ethernet, try to dedicate a separate SSID for streaming, and make sure that nobody else connecting to that particular one. Try to set it to uncongested channel as well.
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ac is full duplex
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ac is full duplex
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Didn't realize that. Will look it up.
I can't get this to stream from my laptop. It says that i need a GTX 600 series or better but my laptop has a GTX 770M.
I bought a 4k TV for my bedroom, and am having difficulty getting a quality LOCAL connection from my router to my ShieldTV and am questioning if the ShieldTV's wifi module/antenna is the weak link. When I stream 4k videos, it always buffers, glitches badly, audio messes up, and when i try to game it lags pretty far behind despite moonlight saying i have low latency. So I am curious if anyone has this working without buffering or lag or glitches. If you have it working, please reply with your setup and anything you had to do, even if you dont know how to help me, below is a short explanation of my troubles.
Im in a (wifi congested) apartment complex, my apartment layout is basically:
Living room|Kitchen|Bedroom.
It's 2 walls and 23ish feet between my router and bedroom spot. There is only one cable spot (where my modem and router are) and zero jacks for Ethernet.
I originally thought my Netgear Nighthawk R8000, could push the signal well enough wirelessly, as everything is 5ghz AC and I only have 1 other device on it (also 5ghz ac), but I was only seeing 100-300mbps.
I have put the shieldTV next to my router and is works perfectly via lan, so I know it isnt a performance issue of the server (desktop) or shieldtv and only a question of getting a good signal.
So I just bought powerline adapters Trendnet TPL-421E2K, which were some of the best I could find in multiple reviews, and those perform roughly the same. If I put them right next to each other on the same wall, i get 600+mbps, but the max i got with them between rooms is 200mps, and thats with trying all the outlets and removing anything that could interfere. Guess wiring just sucks.
I am pretty much out of realistic ideas on how to make this work. The obvious, but not realistic solution is running 20ft of ethernet on my floor or taped to the ceiling.. But I am starting to wonder if the shieldTV just has crappy wifi and i'll never get this working.
Are you checking your speed with speedtest? I play 4k content on the fly and it works, unless bitrate is over 50, then it sometimes goes wrong.
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Are you checking your speed with speedtest? I play 4k content on the fly and it works, unless bitrate is over 50, then it sometimes goes wrong.
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Speedtest checks your ISP speed. I am using a an app called "wifi speed test" that allows you to test your local internet speeds.
test878 said:
Im in a (wifi congested) apartment complex, my apartment layout is basically:
I originally thought my Netgear Nighthawk R8000, could push the signal well enough wirelessly, as everything is 5ghz AC and I only have 1 other device on it (also 5ghz ac), but I was only seeing 100-300mbps.
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All of this
5GHz degrades faster than 2.4GHz due to distance / obstacles. Use 2.4GHz (not that this will help because of below)
Wifi is a shared, collision based medium. High density domestic wifi environment means highly variable latency, throughput.
4K uses a **** load of bandwidth
NVidia Shield streaming appears to me very latency and bandwidth sensitive (see above 3 points).
Sorry ethernet or bust for 4K ... I couldn't get it stable using Wifi in the same room even without wifi congestion.