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can i use with a 802.11N router

hi all i have read that the htc hd2 with a reg edit can run wireless N but is this true, can i use with with a 802.11N router, or will it only work with a 802.11G router,
i need to know as i plan to buy a long range router for work so i can stream DI.FM radio to my htc from my pc and the distance is around 50meter so i want to buy the bets possible router so i can listen to the radio glitch free
info on work network:-
1) 6mb speed via a cable
2) approx 50meters from where i walk / work

It might work at 802.11N standard, but unless your broadband speed is greater than 54Mbs then you'll have nothing to gain. Your router should be backwards compatible to allow 802.11G connection which the HD2 definitely supports, this should be good for speeds up to 54Mbs dependant upon your connection quality.

You'd still get the benefit of greater range, which would in turn mean you'd get a stronger connection. Even a really strong wifi connection on my PS3 only gives me about 700KB/s, despite being on a 20Mb connection (which I can use fully on my wired PC).
I do think, however, that 50m is somewhat optimistic, despite the claims of how good the signal should be (I believe it claims to do 250m outdoors!)
I'd love to try this myself, but don't have a wireless-N router, so can't. I'd be very interested to hear how you get on with this.

Works with ~700kb/s*
I was sending data between laptop and phone with wifi only.

well im going to take my THOMSON TG585v7 i have for my home internet to work i got it with my bethere internet, for free of the provider so im going to try it and see what i get with this,
i have no idea how good this router is though
http://www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/dsl-modems-gateways/products/product-detail.php?id=161
it says Typical Indoor coverage: 60m

î use a BELKIN N1 http://www.belkin.com/pressroom/releases/uploads/07_11_07N1Vision.html
and my HD2 has no problems connecting

webjunky said:
î use a BELKIN N1 http://www.belkin.com/pressroom/releases/uploads/07_11_07N1Vision.html
and my HD2 has no problems connecting
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how far indoors do you get a signal

router is downstairs and even when i'm upstairs i still get signal

Same. Got a Linksys WRT610N. With N-band enabled, not only is the signal strength better, but surfing the net and leeching YouTube vids just flies even though the Internet connection itself is only 12Mbps.

ok all ive decided to buy this for my work to send a N signal to my phone
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Edim...multi-function-wireless-access-point-repeater
my broadband speed is only 6mb at work but i just need the range so i hope this will get me at least 50meters walking distance lol.

Seems to only have 2 (small) antenna's though.
My Asus WL500W has 3 antenna's and has a great signal; whole house and garden covered.
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=nrsjewu78wdDXMOA
Running DD-WRT this beauty does it's job very well.
You could, if the signal is not strong enough or has to get through walls, consider getting a directional antenna to hook up to your router.
This will greatly increase the range.

[Q] xoom wifi 5ghz router

Just got this net gear high performance router. I connected to the 5 ghz band not the 2.4ghz and it acted like it didn't speed up the browsing much if at all. Download speed was around 2.5mbs. Rechecked to make sure I was on the 5ghz and it was. So I rebooted then rechecked the speed and got around 5.5mbs download speed. But after about 4 5 hours of playing around on the browser its like it starts slowing back down again sometimes so bad the page I'm trying to open just stops and the browser closes. Not force closes. But like I hit the home button. Reboot and its OK for a few hours again. I only keep one tab open to by the way just to keep from using any more memory. If I root and try a different kernel dose anyone know that this will go away?

A 5ghz router will not speed up your browsing over a 2.4ghz router, If you're only getting 5megs down anyways. Now if you had a 100meg connection maybe.
It also will have nothing to do with the fact that the browser gets slow over time.
High speed wireless routers are more about sharing content between computers on your wireless network.

but before I got this 5ghz router all I had was a 2.4 and my laptop wouldn't even play a YouTube video without stopping ever 10 seconds. Now with the new one its done buffering before I can smell my fart. It speeds up my internet like Ive never seen.

ericman77 said:
but before I got this 5ghz router all I had was a 2.4 and my laptop wouldn't even play a YouTube video without stopping ever 10 seconds. Now with the new one its done buffering before I can smell my fart. It speeds up my internet like Ive never seen.
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Are you connecting to the router on the 5ghz frequency? Most laptops don't even have this capability.
If there was a lot of 2.4ghz interference around it may have had something to do with it.
Think about it, why would a 5meg connection that you were already maxing out at 802.11g (54mb/s) get any faster at a different frequency?

I'm pretty sure its more of a router issue. Try a different channel. Default is usually 7. If you are in a populated area there are probably a lot of others using that channel as well.
Download wifi manager in the market https://market.android.com/details?id=org.kman.WifiManager&feature=search_result
See which channel is the cleanest and use that one. Hope that helps!

Bauxite said:
Are you connecting to the router on the 5ghz frequency? Most laptops don't even have this capability.
If there was a lot of 2.4ghz interference around it may have had something to do with it.
Think about it, why would a 5meg connection that you were already maxing out at 802.11g (54mb/s) get any faster at a different frequency?
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Yes the lap top dose support it. The wife was about to give up on it because it wouldn't do what she wanted it to now its perfectly fine. But I was just wondering why my xoom is slowing down after a while till a reboot. I just did the speed check again on my 2.4 band and it was the same as it used to be around 2.5mbs download speed. Then reconnected to the 5.0 ghz on the dual band wireless router and it jumped up to 6.4 mds download speed on speed test app.
Well I don't know? I was thinking that the 2.4 channel was slower than the 5.0 one but now they are both the same speed. And I was under the impression that 5.0ghz is faster than 2.4ghz but they're not they're just two different channels or frequencies I guess? I've just never delt with one of these fancy wireless routers before just stuck with what was installed by the cable guy. Maybe I can try keeping the cache clean in my browser and see how it dose.

just based on my limited understanding of wireless networking (slash basic physics), the higher frequency has the only benefit if being on a less populated channel. (More traffic means slower soeeds, more intereferemces, missing packets, etc...). I believe that the higher frequecy also degrades faster/ doesn't penetrate walls as well because it carries less energy, but I've never tried it myself. Just see what works best with some trial and error.

ericman77 said:
but before I got this 5ghz router all I had was a 2.4 and my laptop wouldn't even play a YouTube video without stopping ever 10 seconds. Now with the new one its done buffering before I can smell my fart. It speeds up my internet like Ive never seen.
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Do you fart everytime you play a video? Maybe your nose is getting used to it so it only seems faster. I would hate to walk into your computer room after you've been inthere watching youtube.

I have the exact same problem, I have the netgear wndr3700, and the xoom does slow down after a while and a reboot fixes it. Ive tried both the 5 and 2.4 ghz and its the same story where it won't finish loading pages. I'm actually exchanging my router tomorrow for the wndr3400 because what I have now is overkill for my needs. What router do you have?

i had the same issues with the Linksys E4200. I was upset because my wife's 1st Gen ipad was blowing me out of the water in browsing speed. Then she had to nerve to ask "so why did you spend $600 on this?". Switched to 2.4 and everything is fine now. Better than fine actually. Now that I saw the 5ghz settings I may try again.

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I have the exact same problem, I have the netgear wndr3700, and the xoom does slow down after a while and a reboot fixes it. Ive tried both the 5 and 2.4 ghz and its the same story where it won't finish loading pages. I'm actually exchanging my router tomorrow for the wndr3400 because what I have now is overkill for my needs. What router do you have?
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have you guys tried flashing dd-wrt over the stock firmware on the netgear?
i have the same router and first thing i did when i got the router was flash dd-wrt on it... think of dd-wrt as a custom rom for your router
i'm connected to the 5ghz channel and its been working great for me but i don't surf on my xoom that long as some of you have....

WiFi performance

Unfortunately my router Fritzbox7362 does not support 5ghz network so I had to stick with 2.4ghz. All my other devices have a stable 45-50 mbps download and 10 for the upload but my NP seemed no to work properly in terms of download spee (youtube for instance lowers the quality according to available speed and the result is pixelated videos) ! Soo i decided to find a way to check the internet speed!
Results (if accurate-via html5 site www.bandwidthplace.com) are disappointing!!!!
2mbps download
10mbps upload
Anyone else deals with this issue????

I moved to my new house and took my nexus player with me. I have same issues with wifi. At same place at house I stream via KODI on wifi to my tv without problem, when I try with NP the video is unwatchable, still lagging and buffering. I cannot use cable cause idiots who built my house cut the cable somewhere below the floor even I had originally cable from router to my living room under the floor.
Any idea how to improve NP wifi performance? It is unusable device now

Game streaming is useless over wifi

Lots of stuttering, input lag and low bandwidth warnings using 5GHz band with router only four meters away.
Thought this would be a good way to game on my TV instead of a monitor but it seems to be useless unless you content them using an Ethernet cable.
Would be nice if they highlighted this in more reviews, it seemed to work fairly well with the shield tablet but it's worse on shield tv.

Even over wifi the streaming stutters, I'm regretting buying this.
Apparently a ping of 4 isn't high enough for smooth gaming.

Hello!
I bought some TP-Link AV1200's and it's working nicely over these. I must add I'm living in a newly built house so the cabling will be up to par. Also my PC is on a different loop to my Shield but the throughput is still excellent.

Shocky2 said:
Lots of stuttering, input lag and low bandwidth warnings using 5GHz band with router only four meters away.
Thought this would be a good way to game on my TV instead of a monitor but it seems to be useless unless you content them using an Ethernet cable.
Would be nice if they highlighted this in more reviews, it seemed to work fairly well with the shield tablet but it's worse on shield tv.
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Depends on your router actually. Have you tried connecting to the closer band? instead of 5. Also check your settings because routers now and days saves devices addresses which can slow down the process or you could configure your settings to your shields IP and give that top priority.

Are both the shield and pc on the same wireless network? I think it's worth it to run an Ethernet to the shield (or the computer) so you're not making the router/access point congested. A high quality wireless device with mimo capabilities might perform ok.
My setup has shield connected by Ethernet and my laptop on wifi, no issues here even using 1080p and high settings

easy_mac said:
Are both the shield and pc on the same wireless network? I think it's worth it to run an Ethernet to the shield (or the computer) so you're not making the router/access point congested. A high quality wireless device with mimo capabilities might perform ok.
My setup has shield connected by Ethernet and my laptop on wifi, no issues here even using 1080p and high settings
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I've tried with an Ethernet cable, sometimes it's very smooth but lags randomly which ruins the experience.
The software isn't up-to the job.
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Depends on your router actually. Have you tried connecting to the closer band? instead of 5. Also check your settings because routers now and days saves devices addresses which can slow down the process or you could configure your settings to your shields IP and give that top priority.
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I can't even got it play nicely over Ethernet, testing over wifi further is a waste of time at this point.

So it looks that the problem is the router or internet connection. And not the shield. It's just a guess.
Can you test streams with a Laptop or PC via Wlan and Lan? Then you can find out

Thats strange I have had no issue with this good to know through.

Game streaming requires a 30 - 50 Mbps consistent connection (I believe). When it comes to wireless networking there are a lot of factors that affect your max. speed (connectivity protocol - a/b/g/n/ac ?, distance from router or access point, # of connected devices, interference, etc..,) ...
Actual wireless speeds vary significantly from the above theoretical maximum speeds due to:
distance - distance from the access point, as well as any physical obstructions, such as walls, signal-blocking or reflecting materials affect signal propagation and reduce speed
interference - other wireless networks and devices in the same frequency in the same area affect performance
shared bandwidth - available bandwidth is shared between all users on the same wireless network
Below is a breakdown of actual real-life average speeds you can expect from wireless routers within a reasonable distance, with low interference and small number of simultaneous clients:
802.11b - 2-3 Mbps downstream, up to 5-6 Mbps with some vendor-specific extensions.
802.11g - ~20 Mbps downstream
802.11n - 40-50 Mbps typical, varying greatly depending on configuration, whether it is mixed or N-only network, the number of bonded channels, etc. Specifying a channel, and using 40MHz channels can help achieve 70-80Mbps with some newer routers. Up to 100 Mbps achievable with more expensive commercial equipment with 8x8 arrays, gigabit ports, etc.
802.11ac - 70-100+ Mbps typical, higher speeds possible over short distances without many obstacles, with newer generation 802.11ac routers, and client adapters capable of multiple streams.
Source : http://www.speedguide.net/faq/what-is-the-actual-real-life-speed-of-wireless-374

I'm streaming games and have no issue. Using a 5ghz AC router.

Shocky2 said:
I've tried with an Ethernet cable, sometimes it's very smooth but lags randomly which ruins the experience.
The software isn't up-to the job.
I can't even got it play nicely over Ethernet, testing over wifi further is a waste of time at this point.
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Do you know what model router you have? Stock firmware?Custom firmware?

Shocky2 said:
Lots of stuttering, input lag and low bandwidth warnings using 5GHz band with router only four meters away.
Thought this would be a good way to game on my TV instead of a monitor but it seems to be useless unless you content them using an Ethernet cable.
Would be nice if they highlighted this in more reviews, it seemed to work fairly well with the shield tablet but it's worse on shield tv.
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Works perfect fot me with asus router downstairs

I've been gaming loads through GeForce NOW, it's connected via ethernet through a pair of cheap homeplugs to the router.
Our ADSL is awful too, only 4Mbps asynchronous (500KB/s download bandwidth, about 50KB/s upload bandwidth).
I'm actually amazed it works so well - the video stream itself occasionally has artefacts or gets a bit pixelated, but it never stutters and never has any lag responding to gamepad inputs.
We're used to occasionally pixelated video when our ADSL fluctuates while watching youtube videos etc. anyway so this isn't a big deal.
It takes a bit of getting used to when gaming, but the overall experience is still fun and I accept that the video quality will get better when we move to a home with fibre.
Does anyone know how GeForce NOW actually manages to achieve such a native response time to gamepad inputs?
I find it truly remarkable that I can press a button on the gamepad and not notice any latency with the reaction on screen.
Surely any action must be sending packets over our crappy ADSL to NVIDIA's servers, routing them to the game's virtual machine, causing an effect in game, then streaming the video back over our crappy ADSL to be rendered on the TV.
I'd expect 100-200 milliseconds of latency at either side of that transaction (even over UDP), which I'd expect to ruin the gaming experience of real time games such as FPS / racing games.

rk73 said:
Works perfect fot me with asus router downstairs
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Also using an Asus Router, it still sucked.

the.teejster said:
Game streaming requires a 30 - 50 Mbps consistent connection (I believe). When it comes to wireless networking there are a lot of factors that affect your max. speed (connectivity protocol - a/b/g/n/ac ?, distance from router or access point, # of connected devices, interference, etc..,) ...
Actual wireless speeds vary significantly from the above theoretical maximum speeds due to:
distance - distance from the access point, as well as any physical obstructions, such as walls, signal-blocking or reflecting materials affect signal propagation and reduce speed
interference - other wireless networks and devices in the same frequency in the same area affect performance
shared bandwidth - available bandwidth is shared between all users on the same wireless network
Below is a breakdown of actual real-life average speeds you can expect from wireless routers within a reasonable distance, with low interference and small number of simultaneous clients:
802.11b - 2-3 Mbps downstream, up to 5-6 Mbps with some vendor-specific extensions.
802.11g - ~20 Mbps downstream
802.11n - 40-50 Mbps typical, varying greatly depending on configuration, whether it is mixed or N-only network, the number of bonded channels, etc. Specifying a channel, and using 40MHz channels can help achieve 70-80Mbps with some newer routers. Up to 100 Mbps achievable with more expensive commercial equipment with 8x8 arrays, gigabit ports, etc.
802.11ac - 70-100+ Mbps typical, higher speeds possible over short distances without many obstacles, with newer generation 802.11ac routers, and client adapters capable of multiple streams.
Source : http://www.speedguide.net/faq/what-is-the-actual-real-life-speed-of-wireless-374
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Another thing to note, WiFi is a half-duplex CSMA/CA connection. It can either send or receive at one time, not both, like Ethernet. Collision Sense will "listen" to see if anyone is broadcasting. Collision Avoidance will set a random timeframe, when transmission will retry. While this is happening extremely fast, there's a chance to lag there. If you must use WiFi instead of ethernet, try to dedicate a separate SSID for streaming, and make sure that nobody else connecting to that particular one. Try to set it to uncongested channel as well.

Unless you have one of the newer routers mu-mimo and other new software helps keep wifi onpar with ethernet

Works fine here. Asus Router is several rooms over and using a USB wifi stick in PC.
So its probably something other than the shield.

Meanee said:
Another thing to note, WiFi is a half-duplex CSMA/CA connection. It can either send or receive at one time, not both, like Ethernet. Collision Sense will "listen" to see if anyone is broadcasting. Collision Avoidance will set a random timeframe, when transmission will retry. While this is happening extremely fast, there's a chance to lag there. If you must use WiFi instead of ethernet, try to dedicate a separate SSID for streaming, and make sure that nobody else connecting to that particular one. Try to set it to uncongested channel as well.
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ac is full duplex

pmerritt said:
ac is full duplex
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Didn't realize that. Will look it up.

I can't get this to stream from my laptop. It says that i need a GTX 600 series or better but my laptop has a GTX 770M.

Slow wifi speeds on Shield TV 2017

Just got the new shield tv box and my wifi speeds are incredibly slow. Get 100 mbps on all my other devices, but 5 mbps.
Anyone know of a solution?

i have exactly the same problem on 2.4ghz wifi. i even put the router right next to the shield tv. still only 6-10mbit (max. 15mbit) while i have a 100mbit connection from my provider. on the 5ghz wifi i get about 60mbits but on both i have huuuuuuuuge packet loss every 3-7s. makes gamestream impossible :/
i even bought a new router. tried with my standard fritzbox 7390 and now with a new linksys wrt1200ac. results are the same slow and bad connections to shield. everything else (i.e. notebook, smartphone, pc) works just fine...

Unplug any peripherals connected via usb and try again. This means wireless mouse, usb hub, etc.
I've found the only way to get consistent speeds with the shields wifi is to use a usb hub that has it's own power source.

Can confirm. Having an extremely hard time streaming anything in 4K on Netflix. 350 mbps Download and 30 mbps Upload. Netflix network speed test shows like 29 mbps... I installed a browser and went to Fast.com and get about 80 mbps. Downloaded the "Fast" app on my Pixel XL and immediately got 250 mbps down standing in the same room connected to the same 5 GHz Wireless-AC network. Amazon Prime eventually decides to stream in UHD and HDR, but it takes a while. Youtube, oddly enough, streams in 4K almost immediately.
Router is an ASUS RT-AC1900P.

I'm still having issues. Has anyone solved this problem?
There was an update recently and the performance in Plex seemed to get a little better, but high quality videos still stop and buffer.
Are there any debug tools on the shield that could be used?

Ok so I had terrible performance on 2.4ghz. on 5 GHz it only connected once so decided to have a look at my modem settings and tweaked it.
Have it set to
802.11a/n/ac mixed
Channel auto channel 112
20/40/80 MHz
Everything working smoothly now with no dropouts

I'm having the exact same issue with my new 2017 Shield. If I restart the Shield, it will occasionally work at full speed on 2.4 OR 5 Ghz. But most of the time, it's under 10 mbps - transferring from the internet OR from my PC that is hardwired to my router. I already had an RMA done, and I'm having the same issue with the new Shield NVIDIA sent me. I've tried every channel possible, used tools to find the proper channel, etc. Same slow speed. None of my other devices have the same issue, even in the same location. Nothing is attached via USB.
What's the deal? Any solutions?

Having problems as well. I have my wirless router I'm a good distance running 350mbs and I can pass the test for the games. When I try to play the games they instantly show I'm having wifi problems.