Dear ASUS TF300 users!
I and my forum friends managed to contact ASUS about quality of latest firmware (since update to 4.1.1). They told us to make an organised table of problems that users faced and to send them.
So we organised table here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkVUB_2axZUedGZLVFNYVXhuRVo2WWdpZTI3ZlowR0E&usp=sharing
And we ask everybody to leave here (in this thread) their feedbacks using this sample:
1. Forum nickname
2. Country
3. S/N (Settings - About tablet - Status)
4. Purchase date
5. Android OS (4.0/4.1/4.2)
6. Build number (Settings - About tablet)
7. Feedback (What you are dissatisfied)Then i will move them to table.
Thanks everybody in advance!
Sorry, where is S/N placed?
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk HD
martynasmck said:
Sorry, where is S/N placed?
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk HD
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Settings - about tablet - information (status).. something like this.. Not certain names as I don't have English location..
Sent from my ASUS Transformer PAD TF300T powered by JB 4.2
Why not write one?, Everyone is satisfied with the brakes stock?
1 & 2 are on my profile (Motwera/Canada)
3. C6OKCT061859
4. August 2012
5. 4.2.1
6. JOP40D.WW_epad-10.6.1.27.1-20130711
7. 1. Build quality is not great, I have a part of Asus' logo teared off, the thin part of the Proprietary cable plug taken off/loose
2. Tablet has of course, I/O read/write issues like most people, it slows down for no reason, I use Fast Reboot/Virtual Reboot to temp. solve this problem whenever I am using multiple apps.. this has to be fixed, its getting on my nerves (Slow write speed, slowdowns when using some stuff on random)
Motwera said:
1 & 2 are on my profile (Motwera/Canada)
3. C6OKCT061859
4. August 2012
5. 4.2.1
6. JOP40D.WW_epad-10.6.1.27.1-20130711
7. 1. Build quality is not great, I have a part of Asus' logo teared off, the thin part of the Proprietary cable plug taken off/loose
2. Tablet has of course, I/O read/write issues like most people, it slows down for no reason, I use Fast Reboot/Virtual Reboot to temp. solve this problem whenever I am using multiple apps.. this has to be fixed, its getting on my nerves (Slow write speed, slowdowns when using some stuff on random)
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Thanks for reply! I've put your feedback in table
Sent from my ASUS Transformer PAD TF300T powered by JB 4.2
eFiggy
United States
C4OKCT034394
2012/6/21
Android 4.2.2
cm_tf300t-userdebug 4.2.2 JDQ39E
The Micro SD card slot isn't working properly; cards don't lock into place. Other forum members with the same issue got lucky with ASUS Support even after they unlocked the bootloader, but I didn't. I didn't know about my Micro SD slot being defective and because I did something with the software, ASUS refused to cover a hardware defect. So yeah, I'm pretty unhappy about that.
sad96 said:
Dear ASUS TF300 users!
I and my forum friends managed to contact ASUS about quality of latest firmware (since update to 4.1.1). They told us to make an organised table of problems that users faced and to send them.
So we organised table here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkVUB_2axZUedGZLVFNYVXhuRVo2WWdpZTI3ZlowR0E&usp=sharing
And we ask everybody to leave here (in this thread) their feedbacks using this sample:
1. Forum nickname
2. Country
3. S/N (Settings - About tablet - Status)
4. Purchase date
5. Android OS (4.0/4.1/4.2)
6. Build number (Settings - About tablet)
7. Feedback (What you are dissatisfied)Then i will move them to table.
Thanks everybody in advance!
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This "service courtesy" must have come from some Asus smart-ass with an MBA degree from the University of Phoenix. I don't mean to slight your effort Sad96, but did they promise you what they'd do with the data? I don't see that they will reach out and offer anybody a replacement or a fix (they're quite capable of but won't do for a hefty fee) where their own firmware OTA updates screwed up people's tabs (in my case), I've learned at a rather early age that the best way to appease the mass when you're not willing to accommodate is to tell it to voice its various complaints. You officially take them and then you unofficially shelve them, claiming it'd take time to "study" a solution.
That maneuver provides a safety valve by giving the semblance of an attentive ear when in fact nothing will go on. The proof is in the myriad of "petitions" and complaints sent in the past that never produced any positive result. Not a single one. it doesn't work but the mass is gullible enough to buy it every time. If you're in Lgrad and have lived long enough, you'd certainly remember this handy trick. The best approach is to tell them to take responsibility for their own boo-boos, or give us the tool to fix - NVFlash, or they won't ever see us again as customers. Heck, they don't have the monopoly of tabs. Far from it.
@graphdarnell I don't know what they will do, but we got more than 30 feedbacks, and everything was sent to technical support. They informed ASUS about all problems.
Sent from my Nexus 4 powered by Jelly Bean 4.3
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From Thailand, some little cartoon.
What happen when you just buy a brand new external HDD and you own a tablet...
here the daylife of one Ipad User and one Acer A500 User.
Enjoy
No translation now, but if requested I will translate.
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=htt...ent/uploads/2011/06/Final-Cartoon.jpg&h=d7593
Translation :
ACER --- 1. got the Korea's series from my friend
IPAD 1. got the Korea's series from my friend
ACER --- 2. plug the USB and loading movies into Iconia tab.
IPAD --- 2. find the slot to plug the USB for loading movies.
ACER --- 3. la la la ...~ lie to a bed so happy
IPAD --- 3. Umm... if must be to use computer must will use i-tune.
ACER --- 4. 555 series're so funny.
IPAD --- 4. (in figure..."after 15 minutes") Download i-tune before. - -"
ACER --- 5. eiei (^_^)
IPAD --- 5. -_-" why don't be install ? must be convert file to mp4 before.
ACER --- 6. Today is ok, going to sleep.
IPAD --- 6. going to convert the series before ... and wait...
ACER --- 7. will going to copy file to HD before to get the series back to my friend.
IPAD --- 7. (in figure..."1 chapter uses time 30 minutes and 10 chapter uses time 300 minutes !!!) going to convert the files to i-tune .... and wait
ACER --- 8. have a slot to plug the SD Card... chill chill ~
IPAD --- 8. Zzzzzzz sleeppp Zzzzzzzzzzz
ACER --- 9. and sleep Zzz
IPAD --- 9. it's end and going transfer series to ipad.
ACER --- 10. Zzzzzzzz
IPAD --- 10. Full memory !!!
Translation will be done asap. be patient.
Notice that อิอิ and 555 mean simply LOL
Apple products are a joke. They're a NO to everything.
No bluetooth
No file manager
No widgets
No memory...
Bec07 said:
Apple products are a joke. They're a NO to everything.
No bluetooth
No file manager
No widgets
No memory...
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Not that I disagree, but the iPads, iPhone, and last two Touches have bluetooth. They all have memory as well, just no way to expand it.
Yes but you can't send files or contacts unless you jailbreak and pay for fancy apps.
Why don't they send it out without a sound driver so we have to jailbreak and pay for it too?
4dthinker said:
Not that I disagree, but the iPads, iPhone, and last two Touches have bluetooth. They all have memory as well, just no way to expand it.
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did they make people pay for a os update to use the hardware alresdy in the phone too
Sent from my A500 using XDA Premium App
I know it's fun to bash Apple but tbh, I think the iPad iOS is far superior to HC.
The tablet experience even on the original iPad is sooo much nicer.
Why do u have an Acer tablet I hear u ask. Cos I have a weird requirement in that I want to have mouse support for RDP.
Tbh, if Apple ever gave the iPad proper mouse support (without jailbreaking), there's no way I'd use HC it's so buggy. They never will tho.
Can't send files to it? Pretty much every single half decent app has a multitude of ways to send over files to it.
For example, Goodreader can use GDocs, Dropbox, other file repositories, wifi, ftp.... you just type the IP into your browser, select your file and press upload.
Even on my Acer, I use that kind of facility if I am in a wifi zone cos it's faster than using memory stick.
Not quite sure why people are talking about paying for iOS updates. Haven't had to pay for a single update since iPads came out.
My point is, don't be critical about iOS/iPad when HC is so buggy that it's laughable. I'm sure some of you will say, but HC has only been out 6 months... but what's that go to do with the price of fish?
I also wonder if we'll be able to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich when that comes out (which I'm guessing is what HC should have been if Google hadn't rushed it).
Don't get me wrong, I'm a Google fanboy. I got rid of MS Exchange at work and implemented Google Apps 2.5 years ago and never looked back.
But to say that HC is as slick as iOS.... not even close.
please stay on the humor tone
do not start an iWar
+ 1 for translation please.
MrBoingy said:
blah blah blah
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There's no proper way to send files to it. I come from the dial-up age and although you might not realize it wi-fi and 3G isn't everywhere and it always costs money.
For people who do get out much (eg. photographers) Bluetooth, SD cards and USB ports are essential.
For office rats and students they also matter. Don't know ab your teachers but mine were always reluctant to share emails and phone no's. We always got the learning materials via USB sticks.
Also when having bluetooth, why upload and wait for the other lamer to download? Ever heard of streaming?
Then there's smoothness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn3duaQhIOA
See, I don't need an app for that, there's already a cool widget, so no, dragging around a few desktops that work and fell like windows 95 is not smooth for me.
It was ok 15years ago and with a keyboads. On a tablet I need more.
Translation first post.
Stay on the "fun" not on the "flame"
sanaell said:
Stay on the "fun" not on the "flame"
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Don't you think the comic itself is "flaming", too ?
One could create a comic where the iPad wins all over the Iconia.
Still nice to see a comic about tablets, thanks for sharing and translating!
edit: regarding the flames in a joke thread: i am so waiting for the day when people will finally realize that no product is perfect and everything has its pro's and contra's, depending on the user's needs.
not sure i will live that long
MrBoingy said:
I know it's fun to bash Apple but tbh, I think the iPad iOS is far superior to HC.
The tablet experience even on the original iPad is sooo much nicer.
Why do u have an Acer tablet I hear u ask. Cos I have a weird requirement in that I want to have mouse support for RDP.
Tbh, if Apple ever gave the iPad proper mouse support (without jailbreaking), there's no way I'd use HC it's so buggy. They never will tho.
Can't send files to it? Pretty much every single half decent app has a multitude of ways to send over files to it.
For example, Goodreader can use GDocs, Dropbox, other file repositories, wifi, ftp.... you just type the IP into your browser, select your file and press upload.
Even on my Acer, I use that kind of facility if I am in a wifi zone cos it's faster than using memory stick.
Not quite sure why people are talking about paying for iOS updates. Haven't had to pay for a single update since iPads came out.
My point is, don't be critical about iOS/iPad when HC is so buggy that it's laughable. I'm sure some of you will say, but HC has only been out 6 months... but what's that go to do with the price of fish?
I also wonder if we'll be able to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich when that comes out (which I'm guessing is what HC should have been if Google hadn't rushed it).
Don't get me wrong, I'm a Google fanboy. I got rid of MS Exchange at work and implemented Google Apps 2.5 years ago and never looked back.
But to say that HC is as slick as iOS.... not even close.
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i just dont like apple products due to their fan base, see they join forums deciated for another product and tell them that the product they like is bad and udderly useless.
Sent from my A500 using XDA Premium App
see the slight difference between humor and flame is not given to everyone.
sometimes making fun of someone seems to be sooooooo baddddd...
well.
and sure someone could make something reversing the situation and I will laugh same.
I do like when "comparison" occur with real life situation it's more funny than reading
"my device is the best, yours is a ****"
Note: and this cartoon has been published by ACER Thailand themselves...
I am just coming off 2+ weeks of frustration with the Transformer Prime. I was lucky enough to get mine from Amazon so I returned for a full refund. Despite all the frustration, I realized that an android tablet is a handy gadget that I really would like to own. I am beginning the process of researching for my next purchase and now that I have dealt with Asus, I have a better idea of what I need to figure out before I make a purchase. I am looking into Acer and toshiba.
Can anyone who's owned an Acer tablet answer the following:
I have read Acer is coming out with the A700. Anyone have any thoughts on it?
Do Acer products typically have good quality? Do they last?
How is Acer's RMA process? Do they require you to pay for shipping if the problem is due to manufacturer defect?
Is Acer customer service easy to work with?
How frequent does Acer provide firmware updates?
As with all companies, the quality of the support depends entirely on which country you're in, as well as local legal requirements. Some countries have far better consumer protection than others (UK vs US, for example).
Updates are kinda hit and miss, Acer tend to lag behind some other OEM's.
I generally find build quality to be fairly good, certainly had no complaints on my two tabs.
The above post is exactly true in all ways.. Acer support in the us is outsourced. and that STINKS.. COMPUTER COMPANIES CAN LEAR FEW THINGS BY TALKING TO OR FALLOWING HP Support.. i send them a email of my issue. they call me within a few hours with a answer. I Had a issue with this notebook im typing on. It was a problem with compatibility with a win 7 update to usb. CAMERA ISSUE. A Microsoft tech called me on behalf of hp.. two days later they issued a global wide fix. apparently i was the first to have the issue . I was treated like a person with tech experience not like a dumb customer..
I TO LOVE MY A500. THERE UPDATES When we do get them seem to not break things as with other devices. And less over all issues. With that said who knows when or why they send them.. there is no logic to there update system. I Just wish they would give us the choice to unlock this device or not..
sorry for being so long winded
I found my A501 to be a near-perfect piece of hardware... My main criteria were UMTS and USB HID support, fastboot (for easy recovery if bricked) was a secondary criterion. This tab has all of these (I don't know of any others that do). Also, the device's shell is fairly robust (I have it with me at university almost every day)... The main point of criticism about the HW would be the somewhat weak WiFi antenna (though there's a good remedy for that, search the forum).
About the software... Acer tend to take their time to get things right on the first update, which means that they are somewhat slow to release updates. Then again, I'd rather have something that actually works later than something that doesn't work now...
Customer support is fairly expensive via phone (haven't tried the other options), but friendly and competent here in Germany... Way better than some others I had to deal with.
Available now for direct download the official update for asus TF101G.
Only for TW SKU V9.2.2.3 (Android 4.0.3), other versions very soon, i think!
Link to the official download:
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Eee+Pad+Transformer+TF101G&p=20&s=16
I hope that chefs with this package will do something interesting!
[UPD:] I have downloaded asus package, if someone need it, please tell me where i can upload it
I hope that does not take long for the Slider SL 101
Great news! Now to wait for the WW version.....
If I'm not here, I'm underwater...!
Tft 101g isc kernel source is also up on asus offical site.
Sent from my GT540 using XDA
According to ASUS Italy WW upgrade should arrive on April 6
April 6? Seems like an eternity
I have clicked check for update button all day, but nothing, but 6. april seems long time, on tft 101 they released ww update on the next day, why are they waiting so long with G ww update.
Sent from my Transformer TF101G using XDA
Does this means the deep sleep and reboots are fixed with this update ?
hairpower said:
April 6? Seems like an eternity
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A week used to seem like a long time when I was....Hmmm... Like 10 years old
Is the kernel improved?
Or should we still wait for a tf101 OTA to fix the sods random reboots etc etc
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium HD app
CoopZor said:
Does this means the deep sleep and reboots are fixed with this update ?
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More likely to be increasing the pool of Beta testers
I installed the this firmware update. It isn't fixing the WIFI and GPS problem.
Release notes from ASUS:
"Eee Pad Transformer Prime TF201 Firmware: V9.4.2.21 Only for WW SKU (Android 4.0.3)
V9.4.2.21 Release Note
1. Upgrade Google Mobile Applications
2. Upgrade Vibe version
3. New browser function which able to keep user’s choice of browser viewing type
4. Enable battery usage data in Settings.
5. New display mode of HDMI output
6. Enable press-able notification in lock screen
7. Support Wi-Fi Ad hoc mode
8. Add new system bar lock function"
Firmware info, may be read under ASUS DL section.
I noticed a small improvement to the known WIFI problem. I can now get "3 WIFI bars" in locations where I previously only got "2 WIFI" bars. Apparently this fix doesn't involve an improvement to the GPS problem.
Despite these known problem, I am actually very satisfied with my TF201.
Gunteer said:
I installed the this firmware update. It isn't fixing the WIFI and GPS problem.
Release notes from ASUS:
"Eee Pad Transformer Prime TF201 Firmware: V9.4.2.21 Only for WW SKU (Android 4.0.3)
V9.4.2.21 Release Note
1. Upgrade Google Mobile Applications
2. Upgrade Vibe version
3. New browser function which able to keep user’s choice of browser viewing type
4. Enable battery usage data in Settings.
5. New display mode of HDMI output
6. Enable press-able notification in lock screen
7. Support Wi-Fi Ad hoc mode
8. Add new system bar lock function"
Firmware info, may be read under ASUS DL section.
I noticed a small improvement to the known WIFI problem. I can now get "3 WIFI bars" in locations where I previously only got "2 WIFI" bars. Apparently this fix doesn't involve an improvement to the GPS problem.
Despite these known problem, I am actually very satisfied with my TF201.
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wrong forum...
horndroid said:
wrong forum...
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Indeed, my bad sorry.
anything new?
I just hope that you owners of the TF101G won't get the same bugs we are experiencing at the moment on TF101.
I just don't understand Asus' strategy on this issue, they have lots of ICS TF101, almost everyone encounters issues at one moment or another. It clearly comes from ICS, as HC was rock solid (stability-wise) and they go on upgrading every available hardware as if everything was just fine ... forcing the update without letting customers the choice do it or not.
I use my TF101 for leisure, but I think there are some people around using for work, and the situation Asus created is just unacceptable.
Asus should fix the problem before continuing the deployment.
That was my 2 cents about the upcoming ICS update for TF101G.
Nickola
You are partially right.
Lots of users are not all users, ICS for TF101G has another version: .3; not .11 or .17.
Maybe asus as made some modification on "base" code (example: new cache flush and memory managing) as well as adding the drivers for the 3G.
Some of this new improvements your can find on next new tf101 firmware release.
Moreover, this also means treating people who have spent more, IMHO.
I hope this happen in very short time.
As a general rule that I practice, I won't update any apps the very moment they have a new version & likewise with firmwares. There are bound to be bugs or incompatibility with whatever apps that you might need to use. However, users in the Asus Transformer forum have both extreme ends of the stick, a group that has loads of issues & a group that has wonderful things to say about ICS!
I'm not sure if it's only me as I haven't had the time to ask questions about why Picasa uploading is absolutely impossible with the Honeycomb. I have tried uploading pictures with the native share of Picasa as well as Picasa Tool but could never do it. I figured it has something to do with Honeycomb because my friend has the same issue with his TF101G & this is why I can't wait to upgrade to ICS. I have only gotten the TF101G in February & it has given me loads of productivity in all-day conferences & workshops where it worked more than 8 hours (with dock) even with heavy computing. Best of all, I could multitask & cross reference to get my work done. Yes, I use it heavily for work.
If I'm not here, I'm underwater...!
Gunteer said:
I installed the this firmware update. It isn't fixing the WIFI and GPS problem.
Release notes from ASUS:
3. New browser function which able to keep user’s choice of browser viewing type
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Arrgh! I hope that comes to the TF101 as well.
I lose root after updating my tf101g to ICS..
Sent from my flying GT-N7000 with DarkyRom with Franco kernel on XDA Premium App!!
Hey all,
I'm sick of waiting around for the Samsung Note 10.1" and I really want a device with great stylus support. I have owned ThinkPads in the past (when they were IBM) and from the reviews it seems like most peoples problems with this device were software, not hardware related. I've owned 3 other android devices, always rooted and loaded custom ROMs on them but I am seeing a lot less development activity and choice here. So some questions:
1) I will probably order from Amazon, 32GB w/ stylus. Not sure if it will come with ICS aka 4.0.3 aka OTA3 (I think?). If it does there is currently no way to root it correct?
2) I see there are a few rooting methods, packages, apps, etc. I am getting really confused about which ones are for which device & image (K1, TPT, ROW, JP, etc). Is there a "go to" guide for this specific device?
3) Are there any AOSP ROMs available? If not, how much junk/bloat comes with Lenovo's images?
4) I am looking to use this for business, mostly note taking and diagramming. The stylus input is the *biggest* factor for me and I want it to be smoooooooth. Am I making the right purchase?
I have experience rooting and loading custom roms via CWR on the Nexus One and SGS2-Tmo. I'm just trying to do my homework and see if this device is going to meet my needs before dropping a few hundred on it.
Thanks
I think from what you've read on the forum YOU know you are making the wrong purchase but you're sick of waiting. Then Of course by all means pls get a tpt. That impatience of yours will be tested when you have to send the tablet for a few weeks to repair the broken usb/power button/volume button. The pen is NOT smooth-it develops a mind of its own after writing for a few mins. I'm also sorry to say that development on this tablet is DEAD. There were gallant efforts by koshu and Co but lenovo has proved that they are against development of any kind. Even updates from lenovo are a pain in the backside especially if u somehow had root or Cwm recovery. It's very difficult to learn from other people's mistakes until you make yours then you'd wish you been patient and saved a few hundred dollars
ac251404 said:
Hey all,
I'm sick of waiting around for the Samsung Note 10.1" and I really want a device with great stylus support. I have owned ThinkPads in the past (when they were IBM) and from the reviews it seems like most peoples problems with this device were software, not hardware related. I've owned 3 other android devices, always rooted and loaded custom ROMs on them but I am seeing a lot less development activity and choice here. So some questions:
1) I will probably order from Amazon, 32GB w/ stylus. Not sure if it will come with ICS aka 4.0.3 aka OTA3 (I think?). If it does there is currently no way to root it correct?
2) I see there are a few rooting methods, packages, apps, etc. I am getting really confused about which ones are for which device & image (K1, TPT, ROW, JP, etc). Is there a "go to" guide for this specific device?
3) Are there any AOSP ROMs available? If not, how much junk/bloat comes with Lenovo's images?
4) I am looking to use this for business, mostly note taking and diagramming. The stylus input is the *biggest* factor for me and I want it to be smoooooooth. Am I making the right purchase?
I have experience rooting and loading custom roms via CWR on the Nexus One and SGS2-Tmo. I'm just trying to do my homework and see if this device is going to meet my needs before dropping a few hundred on it.
Thanks
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1) Correct, as of now.
2) Not applicable for a device you purchase that has ICS already loaded - which it will.
3) See 2 above.
4) You really have no option to the TPT if you're looking for a primarily business-oriented tablet, or one with an active digitizer pen. There aren't really any other tablets around that are designed to be anything other than entertainment toys.
darkhandsome18 said:
I think from what you've read on the forum YOU know you are making the wrong purchase but you're sick of waiting. Then Of course by all means pls get a tpt. That impatience of yours will be tested when you have to send the tablet for a few weeks to repair the broken usb/power button/volume button. The pen is NOT smooth-it develops a mind of its own after writing for a few mins. I'm also sorry to say that development on this tablet is DEAD. There were gallant efforts by koshu and Co but lenovo has proved that they are against development of any kind. Even updates from lenovo are a pain in the backside especially if u somehow had root or Cwm recovery. It's very difficult to learn from other people's mistakes until you make yours then you'd wish you been patient and saved a few hundred dollars
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I guess I was basing my impressions of the pen from this video: http://youtu.be/prqFXRFHbPE It looks like it has some quirks but for the most part these are software issues. I know I am running a risk buying something that is already out-dated, but I feel like the device still has potential with the right software and a price tag under $400.
I appreciate both of your replies but I guess I am no closer to figuring this out and should put off my purchase for another few months to see what else is in the pipeline. I wish there was more video and coverage of the stylus input on the new windows tablets.
I have been waiting *years* for the right tablet with pen input to come along. I do not understand how people deny that a market exists for these devices. I'm not even in school anymore (been hoping for this type of device since my first year of university) but if I was, as a science major the ability to draw and sketch ideas and diagrams, not to mention annotate PDFs/reading material, and have digital copies of my textbooks... it just all seems so obvious. As a web developer I am still constantly sketching out ideas and concepts and *cannot* take notes with a keyboard. I am a visual and tactile learner and the subtle underlines and annotations of my notes make all the difference.
Ok sorry for venting. Thanks for the replies.
ac251404 said:
Hey all,
I'm sick of waiting around for the Samsung Note 10.1" and I really want a device with great stylus support. I have owned ThinkPads in the past (when they were IBM) and from the reviews it seems like most peoples problems with this device were software, not hardware related. I've owned 3 other android devices, always rooted and loaded custom ROMs on them but I am seeing a lot less development activity and choice here. So some questions:
1) I will probably order from Amazon, 32GB w/ stylus. Not sure if it will come with ICS aka 4.0.3 aka OTA3 (I think?). If it does there is currently no way to root it correct?
2) I see there are a few rooting methods, packages, apps, etc. I am getting really confused about which ones are for which device & image (K1, TPT, ROW, JP, etc). Is there a "go to" guide for this specific device?
3) Are there any AOSP ROMs available? If not, how much junk/bloat comes with Lenovo's images?
4) I am looking to use this for business, mostly note taking and diagramming. The stylus input is the *biggest* factor for me and I want it to be smoooooooth. Am I making the right purchase?
I have experience rooting and loading custom roms via CWR on the Nexus One and SGS2-Tmo. I'm just trying to do my homework and see if this device is going to meet my needs before dropping a few hundred on it.
Thanks
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Welcome to the TPT forums!
First of all, this tablet has a very low dev support hence you might have to wait for a long time to be able to root your device and load custom roms. As for now, there is a user who has compiled AOSP jelly bean on his TPT which is partially working. So my point is that things are happening in the dev center but at a very slow pace.
If you are buying this tablet to make diagrams and sketches then I would highly recommend it. The plus points of the TPT is that the hardware is really solid. I unfortunately dropped it a couple of times (well my friends dropped it) from a considerable height and there are no scratches or dents and the tablet works just great hence its pretty well built. Having a full sized USB is a great deal maker for me, being a university student, helps me rally data to old systems real quick.
As far as pen capabilities are concerned, there are quite a few apps that will make great use of it. Like the apps named quill,lecture notes etc will definitely be great for the device. I personally take notes on quill and i must say that the tablet lives upto my expectations. I have virtually replaced pen and paper with it. After the ICS update, the device is pretty snappy and the general UI experience has improved great folds from the honeycomb times.
I never rooted my tablet and never felt the need of doing so, cause like I said, after the ICS update the device is much faster thanks to custom launchers and disabling certain vendor apps. The main reason why i bought this tablet was to take notes and it has surpassed my expectations.
So if sketching is the main use instead of multimedia experience, then go for it. It is a practical device.
Hope that helped, let me know if i can assist you any further.
Cheers
Vito
Hey there, just a quick summary of what the different versions mean:
US,ROW,WE etc is the region of the device.
TPT is the thinkpad tablet
K1 is an entirely different Lenovo tablet, with no pen support. As far as I can tell, the two are not compatible (ROMs etc.) I'm pretty sure that K1 activity is routed here because there is no dedicated forum for it.
I hope to write a guide for the device shortly. There is not much development going on but that does not mean it is dead. Devs are working on various (very alpha) ports of CM9 and AOSP JB, and the official lenovo update is apparently very nice (including making the pen even better to use )
In terms of bloat, lenovo does add quite a few annoying apps, but luckily most can be uninstalled without root.
I bought a 32GB ROW (because I'm in canada). I have been using NVflash and am able to flash roms without the use of CWM, which could turn out to be our salvation. It looks like US tablets have NVflash disabled. I don't know if this means all ROW tablets are unlocked, but I haven't heard of anyone with an ROW tablet not having NVflash access. ( I also haven't looked very hard)
Stay tuned, I have a feeling there will some nice breakthroughs on this tablet eventually
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1) I will probably order from Amazon, 32GB w/ stylus. Not sure if it will come with ICS aka 4.0.3 aka OTA3 (I think?). If it does there is currently no way to root it correct?
2) I see there are a few rooting methods, packages, apps, etc. I am getting really confused about which ones are for which device & image (K1, TPT, ROW, JP, etc). Is there a "go to" guide for this specific device?
3) Are there any AOSP ROMs available? If not, how much junk/bloat comes with Lenovo's images?
4) I am looking to use this for business, mostly note taking and diagramming. The stylus input is the *biggest* factor for me and I want it to be smoooooooth. Am I making the right purchase?
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1) Probably you will get Honeycomb version. I do not believe there is anyone upgrading the stock. And probably no ICS loaded devices were made (seems like production stopped some time ago).
2) Hard to tell, as it is unclear which version Amazon is selling. But generally if you have some basic experience, you will make it.
3) There is no working aftermarket ROM. But after upgrade to ICS the situation is a lot better. Using alternative launcher ignoring the Lenovo SW can make the job.
4) I bought it for the same reason. More than HW you fight the SW looking for the best app to make your notes. The Lenovo SW is not usable. And every alternative I tried has some issues.
I clearly understand your dilemma. I doubt that waiting for Samy Note tablet will satisfy you, as this will be the first Samy experience with pen ... I expect a lot of problems, which Lenovo somehow solved till now with ICS release.
I was buying it as replacement for old Lenovo Windows tablet with pen. Especially in combination with OneNote it was great tool ... but it was old, heavy and broken by years of use.
After some time, I got used to this tablet, and I do not use notebook going to client. There TPT can make the job. For other more demanding work I have standard "big" PC.
Of course ... if you buy TPT you will have to accept some "features" like slow charging without full power off (and cold boot after charge), or sometimes frozen unlocking touch till you do not pull the pen of. I don't know how you, but I can live with these problems .
Generally. There is NO device with ANY operating system, which can satisfy needs of me and probably you. Having electronic alternative for paper and pen.
Anyway I'm more satisfied with current status than with lot of papers, where I usually I was not able to find the note I needed
If you need such device, go for TPT a use to live with it. Not perfect, but probably the best available.
Galaxy Note 10.1
Woohoo, the galaxy note 10.1 has been officially announced for release later this month. If you have waited this long, a couple of weeks shouldn't bee too much. As for me, I'm simply salivating at the specs - Quad core processor, wifi+3g versions, 7000mAh battery, 1200 x 800 display; weighing in at approx 600g (way lighter than the ipad). Oh and you can bet that samsung's pen will be far better than the horrific stylus on the thinkpad (just ask galaxy note users). Having had a galaxy s2/s3, I know that samsung products are extremely easy to root, mod update, etc; unlike the thinkpad where even updating is a pain. All in all, I'm elated that I can finally toss out this piece of garbage that lenovo put out. Infact, if someone offers me 100pounds for my thinkpad, I'll toss it to them with some change.
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/ipad-and-tablets/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-review-50007108/
how do you like it
Not very impressive resolution for the price.
I don't see the point of continuing on posting all the bugs and problems I encounter if the only people reading them are other users. This is the same thing that would happen on Facebook and the 2 previous Remix forums. It's like a "if we ignore them, they will go away" approach and it's very unprofessional. I really only want Jide to fix the basics (working WiFi, fully functional apps, apps that recognize the device as a tablet and not a phone, the option to allow apps and services to run in the background, and the ability for SD cards to format as exFAT or be recognized correctly out of the box). I've already given up on fixes for stuttering audio when the screen is off and good battery life (remember the whole "Remix Ultratablet can charge 3 phones at the same time" thing?). An acknowledgement that the team is at least aware of the problems would go a long way, guys.
While the various forums seem lackluster in their support I always open a trouble ticket officially at the Jide Central location also. Sadly some tickets are closed out as soon as they read them, claim they are solved when in fact they mean it is a known issue that may or may not get resolved....I would like very much for them to deliver on their kickstarter claims and promises.
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I know they sent me a PM here on XDA once after I b*tched a bit about something. I wasn't actually directing it at them but they took the time to address my concerns and send me a PM
Maybe we should build a CyanogenMod build based on the Asus TF701T which has almost the same hardware?
Btw: Yes Apps and Services should run in background, starting eg. SpeakerBoost every boot or reboot is just a pain in the ass.
Sending you a PM is fine but did your concerns actually get fixed or taken care of? I have found that out of the nearly 20 tickets I have opened since the kickstarter only a handful have been cleared. Many just acknowledged and referred to "engineering " and some closed as fixed when clearly still broken or missing...
A PM is fine but give me working product, security and major release updates and I am happy.
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alot of things do get addressed but they are a small company (less than 100), so some things might fall thru the cracks. There are a few Jide moderators on here that look at the feeds but don't address every post.
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Sending you a PM is fine but did your concerns actually get fixed or taken care of? I have found that out of the nearly 20 tickets I have opened since the kickstarter only a handful have been cleared. Many just acknowledged and referred to "engineering " and some closed as fixed when clearly still broken or missing...
A PM is fine but give me working product, security and major release updates and I am happy.
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They explained a few things. They addressed the concerns but they didn't "fix" them.
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alot of things do get addressed but they are a small company (less than 100), so some things might fall thru the cracks. There are a few Jide moderators on here that look at the feeds but don't address every post.
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Well I just opened a support ticket with them for the first time. NTFS apparently is no longer supported in the MicroSD card in Remix 2.0? It worked fine previously so let's see what happens.
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Mine still works NTFS, San disk 128gb in both Ultra Tablet and mini. On my Ultra Tablet I ejected and re seated and it seemed to work fine again......I mostly use es file explorer but thier file !manager sees it and can write also the last time I checked.
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Dozens of issues that have been brought up since the very beggining have been ignored. (Battery, Ghosting etc...)
Remix OS 2.0 has solved none, and introduced even more. (No background apps, large app elements etc...)
I understand they are a small company, so we can expect progress to be slow, but we are not seeing progress, my tablet is becoming less usable.
7inchTab said:
Mine still works NTFS, San disk 128gb in both Ultra Tablet and mini. On my Ultra Tablet I ejected and re seated and it seemed to work fine again......I mostly use es file explorer but thier file !manager sees it and can write also the last time I checked.
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While on Remix 1.x my MicroSD was formatted in NTFS. Upgraded to 2.0 and it would no longer "see" the MicroSD card. So, copied the contents on my computer, formatted the card in the tablet and now it's formatted as FAT32. So all my .MKV files over 2gb will no longer copy to the SD Card.
The reply from JIDE was "our engineers are aware of the problem and a fix is in the works" but no ETA, nothing else. But they actually replied.
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Dozens of issues that have been brought up since the very beggining have been ignored. (Battery, Ghosting etc...)
Remix OS 2.0 has solved none, and introduced even more. (No background apps, large app elements etc...)
I understand they are a small company, so we can expect progress to be slow, but we are not seeing progress, my tablet is becoming less usable.
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I finally took the plunge and updated to 2.0. I thought I waited enough versions of 2.0x to get the bugs out but you are right, it's even worse now. My battery life is absolutely horrendous now. I used to be able to fly back from France to NY and still have battery life left. Just tested it out yesterday, it didn't make it anywhere near landing in NY from France.