S4 mini versus Nexus 4 - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

If you had a choice, which would you buy? The specs are nearly same and S4 Mini has a bit better specs interns of front camera, memory card, 4G and size. While I like the nexus 4 nterms of the android version as I am bored with the Samsung ones. For past couple days I have fixed my mind on nexus 4 but now after seeing S4 mini specs as well as complains of nexus 4 being over heated, im wondering which phone to buy.

S4 mini? Seriously?
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The n4 doesn't overheat iv had mine 4 month now total stock too, in terms of comparing it to the s4 I'd rather have the nexus hands down it looks better feels better you get updates months before Samsung the nexus front camera is 1.3 which is more than capable for video calls etc the only disadvantage is the memory and why would you pay over the top for the s4 when you can buy a nexus or 2 even for the price of one of those
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knazlee said:
S4 mini? Seriously?
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Well specs wise it seems to match somewhat:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S4-mini,Google-Nexus-4/phones/7788,7531
The s4 had a handy size which i liked, so kinda confused now. So looking for good reasons why Nexus 4 is a must buy instead of S4 mini. Im not really a gamer or using the phone for movies. So i just need phone for work use and probably work apps, good video calling (s4 mini has 1.9 Mp front camera compared to 1.3 of Nexus), good interface (in which nexus is better).

Well, it's August now which means we're probably a little over 3 months away from an update so I'd probably wait. That aside, having a nexus device for me is just as much about supporting a cause as it is about owning a phone. Easily unlocked/rooted, timely updates, no carrier bloatware, no contracts and longer supported devices.
I get more freedom and support from Google than I do anyone else. The more manufactures see people use nexus devices, the more likely we will see a culture change. If these things like this don't matter to you, is really just a coin toss.
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warea said:
Well specs wise it seems to match somewhat:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S4-mini,Google-Nexus-4/phones/7788,7531
The s4 had a handy size which i liked, so kinda confused now. So looking for good reasons why Nexus 4 is a must buy instead of S4 mini. Im not really a gamer or using the phone for movies. So i just need phone for work use and probably work apps, good video calling (s4 mini has 1.9 Mp front camera compared to 1.3 of Nexus), good interface (in which nexus is better).
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I'd say if those are your criteria then get whatever's cheaper in your area since both will do the job more than well enough. Personally I'd take the N4 any day over the S4 mini. If you're concerned about the N4's screen size, don't be. I had the same thoughts as well when I upgraded from my 4.3" HD2 but now anything below 4.7" feels small.

warea said:
Well specs wise it seems to match somewhat:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S4-mini,Google-Nexus-4/phones/7788,7531
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Most people on here would disagree with you on that assessment. Most notably, the N4 has a better CPU, GPU, bigger battery, and arguably a better display.

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Well specs wise it seems to match somewhat:<br />
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S4-mini,Google-Nexus-4/phones/7788,7531<br />
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Most people on here would disagree with you on that assessment. Most notably, the N4 has a better CPU, GPU, bigger battery, and arguably a better display.
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[Q] Nexus 4 or Galaxy Nexus?

What to buy?
I was thinking 4 or Galaxy Nexus Nexus phones are best suited for me (at least) at a very good price.
Now I'm undecided.
Nexus 4 is $ 299 and you can expect, because I buy the phone at the end.
But I saw that it would be better than Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Nexus Super AMOLED with a 5 megapixel camera.
Now I'm undecided .. I do not know which screen is better, but I can certainly guide!
Thanks in advance
The screen on the Nexus 4 is better overall. The only thing the Galaxy Nexus screen is better in is black levels.
The Nexus 4's screen is has better white levels, sharpness, outdoor performance, colour accuracy among other things.
If you don't need/want LTE, then Nexus 4 has better hardware overall. Only thing Galaxy Nexus has over the Nexus 4 is the LTE. That's it.
The Galaxy Nexus has some advantages:
- removeable battery
- plastic back (more robust than glass)
- will get cheaper when N4 is out
- sophisticated hardware (N4 could have some problems for early adopers)
- lighter/ smaller
But nevertheless, I will switch from a GN to a N4. Main reason is the (hopefully) better camera.
And you can buy a 32Gb Galaxy Nexus...
Flowsen21 said:
The Galaxy Nexus has some advantages:
- removeable battery
- plastic back (more robust than glass)
- will get cheaper when N4 is out
- sophisticated hardware (N4 could have some problems for early adopers)
- lighter/ smaller
But nevertheless, I will switch from a GN to a N4. Main reason is the (hopefully) better camera.
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I think it won't get that much cheaper. Have a look at the Nexus S, since 1 year the price stucks around 300 bucks here it'll be the same
Have a look at this video for the "better" camera. The quality seems good but the sound is like from the HTC Sensation a bit horrible
Razvan03Andrei said:
What to buy?
I was thinking 4 or Galaxy Nexus Nexus phones are best suited for me (at least) at a very good price.
Now I'm undecided.
Nexus 4 is $ 299 and you can expect, because I buy the phone at the end.
But I saw that it would be better than Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Nexus Super AMOLED with a 5 megapixel camera.
Now I'm undecided .. I do not know which screen is better, but I can certainly guide!
Thanks in advance
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Get the 4.. Way too many screen problems with the gnex.
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miniAndroidian said:
I think it won't get that much cheaper. Have a look at the Nexus S, since 1 year the price stucks around 300 bucks here it'll be the same
Have a look at this video for the "better" camera. The quality seems good but the sound is like from the HTC Sensation a bit horrible
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But the GN was much more expensive at release. And the price of the NS increased because of the release of ICS.
With the extemely low price of the N4 the prices of all smartphones will decrease IMO.
I only take pictures with my phone, so the sound irrelevant for me ..
I've had the galaxy nexus if the cameras enough for you get that.design wise.software speed..battery was OK I had an extended though. Its quality.
The trouble is the nexus 4 to buy is a superb deal
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Obviously Nexus 4 better than Gnex all the parameters
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Obviously Nexus 4 better than Gnex all the parameters
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And you would know that how?
Nexus 4 isn't out and already you think it's better, without even testing it?
Nexus 4 all the way!
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KidCarter93 said:
And you would know that how?
Nexus 4 isn't out and already you think it's better, without even testing it?
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From what the reviewers have shown, there is nothing the Galaxy Nexus could best it on. Screen-wise, AMOLED sucks. Camera-wise, the Nexus 4 may not be amazing, but the Galaxy Nexus was terrible on anything but the sunniest of days. Design-wise, the Nexus 4 is objectively a more refined version of the Galaxy Nexus's design, so that wins out as well. And then of course, all the internals give it a thorough beating to its knees. There isn't much else to compare, really, since they both run the same OS.
Op.. if you decide to go with a GNex, PM me!
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Yeah and get ripped by Verizon and wait 6 months longer for updates. (Don't mention Sprint LTE please.)
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Flowsen21 said:
The Galaxy Nexus has some advantages:
- removeable battery
- plastic back (more robust than glass)
- will get cheaper when N4 is out
- sophisticated hardware (N4 could have some problems for early adopers)
- lighter/ smaller
But nevertheless, I will switch from a GN to a N4. Main reason is the (hopefully) better camera.
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Wrong its from samsung and will remain expensive.
A nexus s or the galaxy s1 is still 150 to 200euro second hand... wtf....
So galaxy nexus will be like 400 euro, even if the nexus 4 will be 300.... samsung has always expensive phones and lg cheap ones...

Is Nexus 4 good?

Considering its not from Samsung, and LG isn't the best brand. Is it worth an upgrade from galaxy nexus to nexus 4? I purchased the gnex for 500 $ (dumb me) and nexus 4 is now selling for 299 $ only? WTF? What is the downside of it?
No microsd slot. Other than that it looks great.
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Ryu234 said:
Considering its not from Samsung, and LG isn't the best brand. Is it worth an upgrade from galaxy nexus to nexus 4? I purchased the gnex for 500 $ (dumb me) and nexus 4 is now selling for 299 $ only? WTF? What is the downside of it?
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If you want a faster CPU, better/bigger screen, more RAM, etc., then it is definitely worth an upgrade. Downside of it, is that it isn't available yet.
Considering it's not from Samsung you will not have squeaky plastic or inverted back menu buttons just to make it different, and no closed source software
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No good!
I can't beleive we're weeks away from 2013 and they're making 16gb phones with no microsd slot...this is ridiculous.
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lightpsycho said:
I can't beleive we're weeks away from 2013 and they're making 16gb phones with no microsd slot...this is ridiculous.
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Then why are you in this forum? Go to one where they have microsd and higher capacity storage options.
Yeah lightpsycho! I love the Nexus series I love Google but i really don't understand this!
This kind of attitude has always baffled me. I don't like a certain device so let me spend my time in THAT devices forums so I can tell people about my dislikes?? Come on, bro!
Ryu234 said:
Considering its not from Samsung, and LG isn't the best brand. Is it worth an upgrade from galaxy nexus to nexus 4? I purchased the gnex for 500 $ (dumb me) and nexus 4 is now selling for 299 $ only? WTF? What is the downside of it?
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if it was from samsung i wouldn't buy it, cause they would make another crappy plastic phone. I had S3, S2 i know their build quality
LG is good at hardware nobody seems to complain about hardware but yeah software :silly: but in nexus we will get it from google itself :laugh:
so it win win in hardware and software both side
Haha okay sorry if you were referring to me!
Got it!
Cheers!
Also, it looks more elegant than the Galaxy Nexus.
Heck, it looks so good I would lick it.
Really, the only downside of the Nexus 4 is the limited storage options.
Besides, Google Music solves the low storage option for music, and you can always use something like Dropbox for extra bits and pieces if need be, leaving the onboard storage for videos and whatnot. So for most users, it should be plenty.
Must say I can't wait to get mine. For the first time I have the option of rooting the stock ROM, job done! That said, will probably end up going with a custom ROM in order to have custom buttons and slightly improved performance and battery life.
Mohit12 said:
Also, it looks more elegant than the Galaxy Nexus.
Heck, it looks so good I would lick it.
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Weird but I feel the same way lol
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Then why are you in this forum? Go to one where they have microsd and higher capacity storage options.
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I wasn't bashing on this phone directly, I was saying this from a general point of view. I like Nexus devices. They have great specs and I consider them as near-perfect devices. I'm just saying we shouldn't be limited storage-wise anymore.
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and no lte, glass back that can break,weak battery, lousy camera, non removable battery, and about 50 other things that people bring up. But i'm getting mine!:good:
Red Wolf said:
if it was from samsung i wouldn't buy it, cause they would make another crappy plastic phone. I had S3, S2 i know their build quality
LG is good at hardware nobody seems to complain about hardware but yeah software :silly: but in nexus we will get it from google itself :laugh:
so it win win in hardware and software both side
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People seem to always mistake, build quality and feel of the device. Samsung phones look and feel plasticy, but their build quality is very good, the Galaxy S2 is propably one of the most durable smartphones, after 1,5 years of usage without a case and countless drops, it's still n pretty good condition, unlike for example the HTC phones of some of my friends wich look like s hit (volume button missing etc.)
The reason that im still glad the samsung isn't the manufacturer of the new nexus is the fact that I'm sick of power hungry, oversaturated, screenburning Amoled.
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Also, it looks more elegant than the Galaxy Nexus.
Heck, it looks so good I would lick it.
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You have a phone fetish eh?
woody296 said:
and no lte, glass back that can break,weak battery, lousy camera, non removable battery, and about 50 other things that people bring up. But i'm getting mine!:good:
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What are you talking about?
The only true weaknesses of this phone are the lack of LTE and the low storage options. But if you are on t-mobile and use more cloud based storage or just not too much of your internal memory then it's a great phone.
The Nexus 4 has one of the best processors on the market (Qualcomm SnapDragon S4 Pro), 2 GB of ram (galaxy nexus has 1GB) and an improved camera over the galaxy nexus. The internal battery is 2100 mAh which is the same size as the extended battery for the galaxy nexus or 300 mAh more than the 1800 mAh standard battery of the galaxy nexus. Also the battery on the Nexus 4 is "serviceable" because you can replace it by removing the screws on the bottom of the phone. It's obviously not something you can do on the fly, but it is something you can do yourself. The battery life on this phone in theory should be fantastic compared to the galaxy nexus because not only does it have a larger battery and a more efficient (and faster) CPU, but it doesn't have LTE which means that is one less radio to be killing the battery. I've heard some people say that the battery life has been poor but I read a review just yesterday and the reviewer said you might be able to make it 2 days with minimal use. Also keep in mind that this is on "beta" software, It is not the final version of Android 4.2 which will be released on the phone starting Tuesday and I've heard they plan to send an OTA to the existing phones on Sunday.
I plan on buying the phone. probably not on Tuesday, with some restraint I will make it a few months before I buy it and look at real user reviews.
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You have a phone fetish eh?
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I just like to lick things.

How's everyone liking Nexus 4

I had a nexus s, galaxy nexus and went to a Z10. I'm kinda missing my Android experience and apps. I originally wanted the nexus 4 nut got this and now thinking of trading. Is everyone pleased with their nexus 4?
First Android phone, definitely pleased!
//nexus⁴
Make the trade bud.. Ive come from a galaxy s 4g, then an s2, then an s3... I couldn't be happier with my decision to buy this phone.
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I had the S3 for a week and hated it compared to my gnex.
Onky problem is I have about $150 in z10 cases lol
Definitely trade. Lots of ROMs to try out for this awesome phone.
Definitely better than Z10... using pure android is really a different experience after seeing Touchwiz or Sense
I heard it had bad panorama camera, is that true ?
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I heard it had bad panorama camera, is that true ?
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Well if that is the deciding factor for you then you may need help , but no the panorama camera is just as good as any other and 4.2 has photosphere which is bada**
Nexus 4 is my 3. Android phone, and by far the best. Forget the cartoon like touchwiz or bloat filled sense. Pure 4.2 is IMO Much better.
In Denmark N4 cost the same as gs3 but I still think it's better value.
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How's the screen? Cause on my Z10 the screen is pretty incredible
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Well if that is the deciding factor for you then you may need help , but no the panorama camera is just as good as any other and 4.2 has photosphere which is bada**
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no, its not a deciding factor, Iam just putting out the cons, as YOU are NOT
This is my 5th android phone. Can't go wrong with the nexus line. I love this phone like a fat kid loves cake.
Although I'm currently awaiting a replacement phone as the touch screen went dead on mine... I suspect static buildup then an arc from my leg to the screen... So I might suggest setting the phone down when you know you will be around static buildup, as I now will.
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How's the screen? Cause on my Z10 the screen is pretty incredible
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The screen is amazing once you calibrate it. It's easily as good as the HOX and iPhone 5 and probably as good as the Z10 (even with the lower PPI). Overall this phone is brilliant taking everything into account, couldn't have asked for more.
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The screen is amazing once you calibrate it. It's easily as good as the HOX and iPhone 5 and probably as good as the Z10 (even with the lower PPI). Overall this phone is brilliant taking everything into account, couldn't have asked for more.
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Probably as good as the z10? You make it seem like the screen is better. Laughable.
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Nexus is way better n4-quad-core 1.5ghz krait vs dual-core 1.5ghz krait, Graphics n4-andreo 320 vs andreo 225, n4-4.7" ips display 317ppi , z10- 355pp
Z10 has more PPI , smaller screen , Cost a lot more
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I really like it now I'm used to it. The only problem is it keeps sliding off everything that's not perfectly straight
Is it basically a gakaxy nexus experience?
Get it. Root and tweak till your hearts content....This phone is ROM heaven and blindingly fast. Best phone iv had.
Its the best around...but don't wait to much longer to get it!

LG NEXUS 4 or Galaxy S3???

Hi guys
I am going to buy a new phone
I am a little confused between LG NEXUS 4 and Samsung Galaxy S3
In my country both have the same prices
I want your opinions please
And one more thing
I saw a video on YouTube shows that N4 better than S3 in GPU only and. S3 beats N4 in other things
Is that true???
Please answer me ASAP
THANK YOU
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Your asking if the Nexus 4 is better in the Nexus 4 forum? Lol....Nexus 4 is better.
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Well
I asked same question but between LG 4X and Nexus 4 in 4X forum and people advised me to buy N4 although that was 4X forum
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Yeah but in that case it's almost objective that the N4 is superior in pretty much every way. There's definitely a case to be made for the S3 but in my opinion unless you care about the storage or camera the N4 is the superior choice.
mktns said:
Hi guys
I am going to buy a new phone
I am a little confused between LG NEXUS 4 and Samsung Galaxy S3
In my country both have the same prices
I want your opinions please
And one more thing
I saw a video on YouTube shows that N4 better than S3 in GPU only and. S3 beats N4 in other things
Is that true???
Please answer me ASAP
THANK YOU
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Yesterday, I saw the Galaxy Note II, Galaxy SIII and the Galaxy SIV.
The performance was great, but I have a Nexus 4 for 5 months now, and I would, even I know the features of all the new phones like the HTC One and so on, go and buy this phone again, because it's so great.
This phone is stock android, and therefore nearly all apps and tweaks and mods are working on that.
Most applications are made for the Nexus 4, because it's the model for all other smartphones, so said google.
It has always the newest software and so great ROMs, like the PACman Rom e.g.
When I first saw the Xperia Z, I found, that this device has a really bad performance and really bad colors for a newer device and for a such praised phone, in my opinion.
At least the Galaxy Devices have always these AMOLED displays, and I don't understand, why so much people like these, because I saw them in the Telekom shop and there is always text like "Turn on the LTE" branded in the screens.
If I were you, I would go and buy a Nexus 4
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If you are planning to keep your new phone for good, than it should be a Nexus, cause it will get all the recent updates and has a great development thread here on XDA too.
Nexus 4.
GS3 is a great device... But my friends always complain that it lags after a while... Which is a product of TW. So go with the N4, I love mine.
My friend just bought an S3, and its a great phone. But my other friend complained that his S3 started lagging / not working so fluidly in games, etc. He also mentioned that he had almost filled his storage with games. Whereas on my Nexus 4, I have only about 2.3 GB of remaining space (I play games), YET it works as though there is nothing on it. Its like the day I bought it. The S3 lag is probably because of TouchWiz. Although I've also seen many S3's with full storage but very fluid and absolutely no lags.
My opinion: If you're a camera guy, or a storage person, go for the S3.
If you're not any of the above, Nexus 4.
Good Luck!
Although there are ROMs for the GS3 now, theres no guarantee that development will continue popularly for newer android versions, since the GS3 has the exynos chip. Neuxs 4 will always have devs. Thats the main reason i bought the N4 over the GS3.
The only things Galaxy S3 scores over Nexus 4 is Camera, removable battery and expandable storage.
Nexus 4 is ahead in the rest. Snapdragon S4 in nexus is more closer to Snapdragon 600 in Galaxy S4 than the processor in galaxy s3.
Nexus 4 will also get timely software updates for atleast 2 more years. The S3 will get at max next 2 android updates and those to 4-8 months after its release.
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Do you want better performance, better software, better screen, better build, better feeling? Choose Nexus 4.
Do you want better camera and sound? Choose S3.
Ümit said:
Do you want better performance, better software, better screen, better build, better feeling? Choose Nexus 4.
Do you want better camera and sound? Choose S3.
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Also if u just want a phone for making calls, taking pics, listening to music, & other normal uses, get S3.
If u want fast android upgrades, rooting, custom ROMs, etc , then get Nexus 4
Ümit said:
Do you want better performance, better software, better screen, better build, better feeling? Choose Nexus 4.
Do you want better camera and sound? Choose S3.
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Why is the sound better over nexus 4?
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Why is the sound better over nexus 4?
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I think he is hinting at the Wolfson DAC that's present in S3. Wolfson does sound better than the Qualcomm one in N4. But it's not a whole lot better. It's definitely far better than the Yamaha crap present in the S2.
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mktns said:
Hi guys
I am going to buy a new phone
I am a little confused between LG NEXUS 4 and Samsung Galaxy S3
In my country both have the same prices
I want your opinions please
And one more thing
I saw a video on YouTube shows that N4 better than S3 in GPU only and. S3 beats N4 in other things
Is that true???
Please answer me ASAP
THANK YOU
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I am use N4, before use S3. Nexus 4 more fastest, desing is very cool and premium, CPU, GPU and memory more. . . S3 ****!!!!
It's only a matter of preference. I chose the nexus 4 over the s3 since it was unlocked, and that I can get instant updates the second Google releases them. Spec wise, they are fairly even tbh.
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I had the s3 first, then won some money on a bet and decided to buy nexus 4. I instantly fell in love and sold the s3 straight away.
N4 feels better, looks better (i like black) and runs better. Its also extremely easy to root and have fun modding with.
thank you all
i will save some money and get N4
anupampb said:
Also if u just want a phone for making calls, taking pics, listening to music, & other normal uses, get S3.
If u want fast android upgrades, rooting, custom ROMs, etc , then get Nexus 4
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Surely for those uses out of the two you'd take the N4 any day since it's cheaper and does those things pretty much as well as the S3?

[Q] should i buy n4 or sgs4 coming from gnex?

hello guys. i am looking for a new smartphone to replace my galaxy nexus. is a good phone but sometimes it shows his age in some apps.
i live in brazil so i can buy nexus 4 for R$1140 that is 512USD, and galaxy s4 octa is R$1685 that is 755USD. i love pure stock android but the hardware and camera of galaxy s4 is amazing. but the laggy touchwiz and only 9gb of space available makes me a bit worried. so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more.
thanks
EDIT:i will sell my galaxy nexus for R$800, 359USD.
leandronb said:
hello guys. i am looking for a new smartphone to replace my galaxy nexus. is a good phone but sometimes it shows his age in some apps.
i live in brazil so i can buy nexus 4 for R$1140 that is 512USD, and galaxy s4 octa is R$1685 that is 755USD. i love pure stock android but the hardware and camera of galaxy s4 is amazing. but the laggy touchwiz and only 9gb of space available makes me a bit worried. so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more.
thanks
EDIT:i will sell my galaxy nexus for R$800, 359USD.
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Can you think of anything the octa core processor can run that the quad core can't? How much is a cell phone camera worth to you? Are you looking to take professional grade photos with a phone? Which device has a better chance of running stock android? I would go with the nexus.
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Man I'm from Brazil too, and I did it, sold my gnexus for R$ 750 and by my Nexus 4. Is perfect I recommend!
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I would go for the Nexus. The Octa in the S4 can only run 4 cores at a time, so it isn't a true octa core processor, its a BIG.little chip. If you have the chance to get an HTC One, then I would go for that for the build quality
leandronb said:
so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more..
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It depends on how much you value the camera and storage of the GS4 but overall I'd say no, the GS4 isn't worth $243 more.
Thank you guys. After read all the answers I noticed that everyone says that s4 do not worth the additional price. I will sell my gnex and buy a nexus 4. When I put all the pros and cons of both phones for my needing n4 is the winner. My opinion for who is in the same dillema:
S4 pros-
Camera
Raw power
Bigger screen
S4 cons-
More expensive
Touchwiz and Samsung bloat.
Bad big.little management (cluster migration)
Only 9gb for the user in 16gb model.
N4 pros-
Cheaper
Stock android
Lots of Roms that I am already used in gnex like PA.
Can run any game that s4 runs.
N4 Cons-
Smaller screen
Touch not so good as gnex
Camera not so good as s4 but better than gnex, so for me is enough.
So the cons on the n4 will not ruin my experience, is like a PC upgrade I will just upgrade the hardware and run the same software that I used to. Thank you guys to help me decide and save some money.
leandronb said:
Thank you guys. After read all the answers I noticed that everyone says that s4 do not worth the additional price. I will sell my gnex and buy a nexus 4. When I put all the pros and cons of both phones for my needing n4 is the winner. My opinion for who is in the same dillema:
S4 pros-
Camera
Raw power
Bigger screen
S4 cons-
More expensive
Touchwiz and Samsung bloat.
Bad big.little management (cluster migration)
Only 9gb for the user in 16gb model.
N4 pros-
Cheaper
Stock android
Lots of Roms that I am already used in gnex like PA.
Can run any game that s4 runs.
N4 Cons-
Smaller screen
Touch not so good as gnex
Camera not so good as s4 but better than gnex, so for me is enough.
So the cons on the n4 will not ruin my experience, is like a PC upgrade I will just upgrade the hardware and run the same software that I used to. Thank you guys to help me decide and save some money.
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I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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rayiskon said:
I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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That Sony phone , you are talking about. Does not even sound slightly real.
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rayiskon said:
I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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But can you give me a valid real world situation where the Snapdragon 800 would make normal usage better? Why spend extra for the latest and greatest when you can save money and buy something not quite as new and equally great?
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That Sony phone , you are talking about. Does not even sound slightly real.
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There is already a system dump, that's where the info about the camera came from. Also evleaks already leaked detailed photos of the device. It's also going to be water and dustproof (not resistant, proof).
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Why spend extra for the latest and greatest when you can save money and buy something not quite as new and equally great?
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Because snapdragon 800 blows every other snapdragon chip out of the water. If it was a s4 pro -> s600 upgrade i wouldn't have advised him to wait, but the s800 is a totally new generation of SoC.
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Because snapdragon 800 blows every other snapdragon chip out of the water. If it was a s4 pro -> s600 upgrade i wouldn't have advised him to wait, but the s800 is a totally new generation of SoC.
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Still doesn't answer either question. It may well blow every SoC out of the water but that just means it's overkill and the power will never really be used.
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Still doesn't answer either question. It may well blow every SoC out of the water but that just means it's overkill and the power will never really be used.
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s800 SoC supports 3GB of RAM , 4k video recording, 2k displays, and additional ports... oh, and a new stronger adreno 330 gpu.
in no way i find it overkill if you use your hardware for more than calls/sms, especially when implemented in tablets. Furthermore, as ubuntu for android (not ubuntu touch) should be coming out by the end of the year, i'm pretty sure the s800 should provide better performance in that field.
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s800 SoC supports 3GB of RAM , 4k video recording, 2k displays, and additional ports... oh, and a new stronger adreno 330 gpu.
in no way i find it overkill if you use your hardware for more than calls/sms, especially when implemented in tablets. Furthermore, as ubuntu for android (not ubuntu touch) should be coming out by the end of the year, i'm pretty sure the s800 should provide better performance in that field.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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Agreed!
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i think sd800 is like buying a i7 3770k and a gtx titan when just an i5 3570k and a 660ti can run any game or app.
i will buy today n4, too bad the black color sold out i will take the white one. thank you guys.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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You're comparing a SoC to a phone as a whole?
If you take a wider look, running a 1080p display, a bigger camera sensor, not to mention the low level software tweaking and optimizations like project butter and other under the hood ones, etc.. requires a lot of processing power.
And with your logic, we don't need 1080p displays, or camera hardware similar to that in p&s ones, it's all overkill.
Did you know that the n4 gives a higher fps result when playing games than an s4 ? It just tells you that the s600 is not capable of pushing all those pixels and maintaining the same fluidity as it would on 720p.
Snapdragon800 is in no way an overkill to mobile devices, it's just a result of the evolution of technology. Other hardware parts are also evolving.
And p.s. s800 supports usb 3.0 , but why would anyone want faster data transfer rates, it's all overkill !
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Definitely the N4, even though S4 has a system dump already for the 4.3, Nexus devices will have it eventually.
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Actually yes 1080p displays are definitely overkill IMO. I know that the N4 gets better FPS than the GS4 but that's NOT the same as saying the GS4 gets low FPS. Games are more than perfectly playable at the 40-60 FPS that the GS4 manages on ultra high settings on Real Racing 3. As you said though it's not all about the SoC and it's fairly clear that the GS4's software is poorly optimised seeing as it lags even when scrolling through the home screen. If I'm not mistaken the Adreno 320 is supposed to be capable of handling multiple 1080p displays at once.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of mobile technology advancing, but I wouldn't recommend a more expensive device over such a small increase in performance.
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Actually yes 1080p displays are definitely overkill IMO. I know that the N4 gets better FPS than the GS4 but that's NOT the same as saying the GS4 gets low FPS. Games are more than perfectly playable at the 40-60 FPS that the GS4 manages on ultra high settings on Real Racing 3. As you said though it's not all about the SoC and it's fairly clear that the GS4's software is poorly optimised seeing as it lags even when scrolling through the home screen. If I'm not mistaken the Adreno 320 is supposed to be capable of handling multiple 1080p displays at once.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of mobile technology advancing, but I wouldn't recommend a more expensive device over such a small increase in performance.
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ok, i think i get your point now. i respect your opinion, but i don't agree with it (and that's cool).
1080p is actually quite beautiful when you have a big display (5") and no on screen buttons eating up space. watching a youtube video on full HD is really nice, the sharpness and color distribution also (noticeable when comparing both pentile on s3 and s4).
Anyways, all i wanted to say in my first post is that it's July already, and that a new generation of SoC is coming, and it's gonna be a pretty big upgrade. furthermore, we're all expecting a new nexus in Q4 right? i'm pretty sure we're gonna see an s800 in there, and hopefully Google will keep it's pricing strategy. i think a 3 months wait (till Oct/Nov) is worth it, i'm pretty sure OP's galaxy nexus could live that long, it's not that he has a low end device.
just to add one more thought, i'm aware that my nexus 4 will be more than capable to run ubuntu for android for example, but i'm pretty sure a nexus with an s800 would be even more capable. Or maybe i'm the only one getting excited about turning my phone into a dockable remote PC

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