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Worth the upgrade from a nexus 4?

I own a nexus 4 but I'm one of those people who always has to have the best but im short of the 630€ i need to buy it so im thinking of switching to pay monthly with vodafone for 35€ a month and get the s4 for 159 euro?
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Damn buddy stick like I with ur N4 why you wanna switch From The N4 to the Galaxy S4?
I Loving my Nexus 4 and definetly dont wanna switch To a close sourced plastic phone
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rocklee80 said:
Damn buddy stick like I with ur N4 why you wanna switch From The N4 to the Galaxy S4?
I Loving my Nexus 4 and definetly dont wanna switch To a close sourced plastic phone
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But aint the s4 just amazing
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If you can stomach the short battery life and mediocre camera on the S4, you should stick with it. Right now Samsung is deeply into the lag eliminating stuff so it is worth waiting a couple of weeks to see where things stand, but the S4 obviously has boatloads more extres much better screen, battery life, camera plus new sensors, IR blaster... currently coming with some fluidity compromises. Hold on to it until the dust is cleared.

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But aint the s4 just amazing
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yeah sure but i dont like it the hardware specs are awesome no regrets but i dont like the build quality and the slow updates and the closed source from samsung -.-

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If you can stomach the short battery life and mediocre camera on the S4, you should stick with it. Right now Samsung is deeply into the lag eliminating stuff so it is worth waiting a couple of weeks to see where things stand, but the S4 obviously has boatloads more extres much better screen, battery life, camera plus new sensors, IR blaster... currently coming with some fluidity compromises. Hold on to it until the dust is cleared.
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True true! Il do just that. See what the common problems are
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It is always worth waiting to see how much progress manufacturers can achieve, Samsung has the largest resources to deal with issues, so I'd expect responsiveness to improve vastly by June. The Nexus 4 should help easing the wait.

I switched from an N4. My main reasons for switching are:
1) The N4's camera was hopeless in low light, as The Verge put it, its better to 'just use your memory'.
2) I had a massive delay when receiving push notifications on WiFi and 3G. There was a Google support thread where ppl basically identified a faulty driver, which even now has not been fixed. Some ppl say they have no problem but I certainly did.
3) The S4 has 4G!
4) After the latest update the N4s battery life improved dramatically. But the S4 is better still, despite using it like a new phone it still surpasses the N4 in battery longevity.
Arguably the N4 is slightly smoother in some operation. When changing tabs on the S4 there is a slight delay before anything happens. But this can be solved by simply switching to Chrome.
The screen smearing on the S4 makes it seem more laggy but in reality its not.
Hope this helps you decide.
/edit Almost forgot to mention, I miss photosphere from the N4

The Galaxy S4 has a better camera by a mile then the Nexus 4 and the battery life is also a lot better. Plus you get a bigger screen, faster processor. Over all the S4 is a way better device.
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gavin-phelan said:
I own a nexus 4 but I'm one of those people who always has to have the best but im short of the 630€ i need to buy it so im thinking of switching to pay monthly with vodafone for 35€ a month and get the s4 for 159 euro?
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Go for it! It's pretty much the best Android out.
-Powerful CPU/GPU (especially the Octa)
-Excellent Camera
-High memory variants PLUS MicroSD support upto 64GB
-5.0" HD1080P SAMOLED display with 440PPI
-Huge 2600mAh battery
-USB OTG
-Native support for almost all Audio and Video formats
-Multiview Multitasking
-Capacitive display usable with gloves
-A whole lot of sensors
-Wolfson DAC (in the Octa)
-IR Blaster
...the list goes on, it pretty much whipes the floor with the N4 in everything except updates, but this being a Samsung, it will get updates for atleast 20months like the GS2.
This thing is a lil machine

Just one word: better battery

Yes, you will love the screen. :laugh:

May start saving so
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Galaxy Nexus owner considering upgrade to Nexus 4

I was really hoping for the rumored 32GB LTE version to be announced at I/O but it seems that phone is a myth. So I'm now considering getting the current Nexus 4.
I'm curious to know if there are any ex-Galaxy Nexus owners in here and what their take on it is. Personally I love my phone for normal use. Running CM10.1 I'm able to do everything--aside from games--with smooth ease. Sadly, Subway Surfers and Iron Man are almost not worth playing on my phone and that's kind of a bummer. I'm also starting to see ghosting/burn-in in my screen, which isn't horrible but I think I'm over AMOLED. The real kicker is that my volume rocker has stopped working and it is the most inconvenient thing I've ever experienced on a modern smartphone.
So, should I upgrade?

I had the Galaxy Nexus and love the N5.
It's a worthwhile upgrade and at $349 the price can't be beat!
I say go for it! :good:

raqball said:
I had the Galaxy Nexus and love the N5.
It's a worthwhile upgrade and at $349 the price can't be beat!
I say go for it! :good:
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Nice. Wish I had a nexus 5.
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Another Galaxy Nexus --> Nexus 4 owner here.
I couldn't be happier. The phone is gorgeous, and just oozes smoothness over the GNex. :good:

Another one chiming in.... Nexus 4 trumps GNex for me in every way. Good price as others have mentioned, and you will love the solid feeling design of the N4 compared to the plastic on the GNex. Make sure to get a back glass and front screen protector.
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The nexus 4 is a definite upgrade over the g nexus. But if you want removable battery and sd card get the S4 Google edition.
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barondebxl said:
The nexus 4 is a definite upgrade over the g nexus. But if you want removable battery and sd card get the S4 Google edition.
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Now, I don't want to start a whole Nexus 4 vs. GS4 GE debate, but I do want to just point out that both phones have their pros and cons. GS4 GE has removable storage and battery, and does have better hardware. Nexus 4 costs about half as much and is still a top-of-the-line phone. Again, not trying to start a debate, but OP, if you're considering upgrading to either of these, I'd say go check the pros and cons. There's a thread you can go to made specifically for debating the N4 vs any other phone. If I find it, I'll edit this post and put it in.

Johmama said:
Now, I don't want to start a whole Nexus 4 vs. GS4 GE debate, but I do want to just point out that both phones have their pros and cons. GS4 GE has removable storage and battery, and does have better hardware. Nexus 4 costs about half as much and is still a top-of-the-line phone. Again, not trying to start a debate, but OP, if you're considering upgrading to either of these, I'd say go check the pros and cons. There's a thread you can go to made specifically for debating the N4 vs any other phone. If I find it, I'll edit this post and put it in.
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I spent $600 on my Galaxy Nexus a month and a half before it went on the Play Store. I told myself I'd never spend that much on a phone (upfront) again. While I would love the S4GE, I just can't see myself dropping $650 + tax + shipping.
Thanks to everyone who replied! I'm pretty sure a Nexus 4 is in my future.
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daewond3r said:
I was really hoping for the rumored 32GB LTE version to be announced at I/O but it seems that phone is a myth. So I'm now considering getting the current Nexus 4.
I'm curious to know if there are any ex-Galaxy Nexus owners in here and what their take on it is. Personally I love my phone for normal use. Running CM10.1 I'm able to do everything--aside from games--with smooth ease. Sadly, Subway Surfers and Iron Man are almost not worth playing on my phone and that's kind of a bummer. I'm also starting to see ghosting/burn-in in my screen, which isn't horrible but I think I'm over AMOLED. The real kicker is that my volume rocker has stopped working and it is the most inconvenient thing I've ever experienced on a modern smartphone.
So, should I upgrade?
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I did and am extremely happy with the decision. I had the GNex on VZW, and even got rid of my service so I could switch to the N4 on a GSM provider. Very glad I did. This phone is extremely smooth and the developer support is tremendous just like our old Gnex. Only downside compared to Gnex is lack of replaceable battery but I really havent run into an issue with this. I have an external battery backup just in case, but havent even run into a situation where I needed to use it. Plus as everyone else has noted the price simply cant be beat. There might be newer, more powerful phones on the market now (GS4, HTC1) but they would run you double to buy outright or you would have to lock in a service contract. In my opinion it just isnt worth the extra money for those, plus they lack the full nexus experience.

N4 has better screen, battery, design, quality.
And of course CPU and GPU is light years away.
After that is camera 2 gigs of ram that makes the super smooth.
So to conclude it is much better than GN.
Stop thinking about it. Buy N4 and sell the GN or keep as a spare.
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I did the upgrade a few days ago and I can tell you that it's totally worth it! Even with the upcoming S4 Google version, I think N4 is still a better choice by design and functionality. (Yes, S4 is more powerful in terms of hardware but the button design has ruined everything IMO)

amdhunter said:
Another Galaxy Nexus --> Nexus 4 owner here.
I couldn't be happier. The phone is gorgeous, and just oozes smoothness over the GNex. :good:
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i came from the gnex and i think the nexus 4 is better in every way but the screen. i miss the super amoled screen on the gnex's. im just so use to amoled screens since my last 3 phones had them lol. the nexus 4 looks washed out to me. but thats just my opinion.

Yeah... I just switched from the galaxy nexus as well... couldn't be happier! Battery life has been just as good as stock battery gn and it's much faster... I don't think the s4 is worth nearly twice the price
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s10shane said:
i came from the gnex and i think the nexus 4 is better in every way but the screen. i miss the super amoled screen on the gnex's. im just so use to amoled screens since my last 3 phones had them lol. the nexus 4 looks washed out to me. but thats just my opinion.
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I agree with you. When I first came off of the amoled my Nex4 did look washed out. Once I got used to the colors on the Nex4 I realized how much more true to life they are. Now when I look at amoled it looks like a over saturated replica of colors.

The N4 makes the GNex blow IMO.
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Nexus 4 or GS4

I'm switching to T-Mobile in a few more days when my contract ends and was wondering on which phone to get. Would the Nexus 4 be a better choice then the Galaxy S4?

ubnub82 said:
I'm switching to T-Mobile in a few more days when my contract ends and was wondering on which phone to get. Would the Nexus 4 be a better choice then the Galaxy S4?
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Depends on what you want. The downsides to the N4 are the camera, lack of expandable storage/removable battery and fragility of the glass back. Everything else on the N4 is a plus. The GS4 is better in most ways in terms of hardware but it feels awful in the hand and TouchWiz actually makes it lag despite having a Snapdragon 600. Personally, I'd choose the N4 since I don't feel there's anything on the GS4 that makes it worth hundreds of pounds/dollars more than the N4. It ultimately comes down to your own opinion though, nobody can decide for you.

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I'm switching to T-Mobile in a few more days when my contract ends and was wondering on which phone to get. Would the Nexus 4 be a better choice then the Galaxy S4?
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It really depends on what your looking for. The Nexus is obviously easier to root and unlock the bootloader and such, but the S4 has better specs. i would get the HTC One

ubnub82 said:
I'm switching to T-Mobile in a few more days when my contract ends and was wondering on which phone to get. Would the Nexus 4 be a better choice then the Galaxy S4?
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Galaxy s4 or HTC one. If you are going to root it and put a ROM from the Google play devices.
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I'm switching to T-Mobile in a few more days when my contract ends and was wondering on which phone to get. Would the Nexus 4 be a better choice then the Galaxy S4?
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I've owned the gs4..just bought the n4 and to my surprise the n4 is faster and feels more fluent despite specs..it feels more premium..gs4 beats it everywhere else..

Granted the GS4 has better specs. My brother in law just got one on Verizon. Looks great, but the feel isn't as solid as the N4 IMO. Also no wireless charging is a negative for me at this point, because I bought a few of the wireless pads already lol.

N4 definitely feels more fluid and smooth. I feel like the n4 will "work" better than s4 in terms of development. But s4 beats it everywhere else. Speaking about n4 downfall.... I'm running out of space..Lol
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Get the s4 till you get bored of it, sell it and buy n4
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Girlfriends got a GS4.
I used to have a GS3.
Just recently moved to N4 after getting tired of turning all my Galaxy phones into nexii and i don't miss a thing about the S3. The only thing I can give to the S4 is the 13MP camera that its got on the back but other than that I'm Nexus all the way. Feels way more fluid plus Touchwiz is pure rubbish in my opinion. Even my girlfriend wants me to root her S4 after seeing my Nexus in action.
It's all about what's a dealbreaker for you. For me it was the screen, i got tired of the saturation on AMOLED screens where whites looked like blues and yellows compared to the N4.
Cheers
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I would either get GS4 GE or Mi 2S

Id get the gs4.. It has expandable storage, removable battery, better camera, screen plus its made of polycarbonate which is an amazing material. Processors also faster and alot of the samsung software is excellent. I used to hate touchwiz but nowadays it is actually a feature and not a con imho.
The N4 is cheaper though and as others have stated, it feels nice in the hand, is better looking and has wireless charging. For me however, GS4>N4 and i would trade my N4 for one any day if i could cover the difference.
Youll be happy with whichever one you get
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If money isn't an issue, get the s4. If it is an issue then I would get the nexus 4. regardless of the phone you choose, you will get an awesome android experience
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If you're getting it on contract and don't care for price i would recommend the gs4 just cause its newer and has better hardware but still the n4 is smoother as I've used both. If it were me I would get the one over both though or the one Google edition
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I am on S2. Found the N4 fm retailer at 360 euro and the S4 at 485 euro..
Should I go for the Nexus?
Appreciate insight..
p.s. my biggest concern is lack of expandable storage and nexus bugs as reported here in xda (S4 bugs too)

If I had the cash I'll definitely go for the S4, better in every aspect except updates. But looking at Sammy's update history, they are the fastest one second to Google.
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uchihakurtz said:
If I had the cash I'll definitely go for the S4, better in every aspect except updates. But looking at Sammy's update history, they are the fastest one second to Google.
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Or maybe I should stick with my S2 and wait for next nexus...

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Or maybe I should stick with my S2 and wait for next nexus...
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N4 for sure. It just feels great in the hands. I hate all the bells and whistles that the G4 comes with and would end up making it pure vanilla anyways. Unless they were the exact same price i wouldn't consider the G4. A lot of my storage is in the cloud and I save game saves on dropbox. Therefore i just uninstall games when i get bored with them. I don't see a use to having 300 apps installed just because you can and all my music is with google music so its all streaming.

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N4 for sure. It just feels great in the hands. I hate all the bells and whistles that the G4 comes with and would end up making it pure vanilla anyways. Unless they were the exact same price i wouldn't consider the G4. A lot of my storage is in the cloud and I save game saves on dropbox. Therefore i just uninstall games when i get bored with them. I don't see a use to having 300 apps installed just because you can and all my music is with google music so its all streaming.
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I second the "bells and whistles"! Same thing with my S2.. I ended up with custom rom (rootbox) - to avoid all the bloat - which is very close to stock android with some extra feats..
I believe I will take the plunge for Nexus 4 in the end.. A colleague of mine got it and is reaaaally fluid (he kept it stock-unrooted). And if you think abt it you may not even need rooting it at all..

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I second the "bells and whistles"! Same thing with my S2.. I ended up with custom rom (rootbox) - to avoid all the bloat - which is very close to stock android with some extra feats..
I believe I will take the plunge for Nexus 4 in the end.. A colleague of mine got it and is reaaaally fluid (he kept it stock-unrooted). And if you think abt it you may not even need rooting it at all..
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Even just stock kernel and rom rooted. I personally cannot live without root call blocker, root explorer, datasync and adaway. I only went with an AOKP ROM because I'm a tweaker.

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I second the "bells and whistles"! Same thing with my S2.. I ended up with custom rom (rootbox) - to avoid all the bloat - which is very close to stock android with some extra feats..
I believe I will take the plunge for Nexus 4 in the end.. A colleague of mine got it and is reaaaally fluid (he kept it stock-unrooted). And if you think abt it you may not even need rooting it at all..
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The N4 is awesome and youll be surprised how happy and comfortable it is on stock rooted or unrooted.
The next nexus should be out within 5 months so it really depends on how desperate you are for a new phone. The N4 is really nice but whats the N5. Who knows. with tech these days the next big thing is always around the corner, you can never catch it.

Yahoo finally note3 which is worth the upgrade

There were some conditions and some limits i have put to get the note 3.
One of it was if its not bigger than 5.8 and i am happy amsung listened instead of going for big bigger and biggest they kept it under 6.0.
Now for those shouting about the finishing they also get something different.
Samsung gave a genuine reply to the lg g2 and sony honami.
For me i think the time to upgrade my phone has come and once again this device has a wow factor just like my note 1 when it was released.
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Bye2 samsung, welcome nexus.
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I'll wait for one max before making my mind.

Note 3 put others to shame. It succeeded to keep the throne of the smartphones. Long live the king! I will be one of the first day buyers. Cannot wait.
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Looking at the specs, not even funny, sammy will slap together a nice bloatware again that will eat up more than half of the RAM anyways, not even considering buying if there will be no nexus version of it.

zsoltyika said:
Looking at the specs, not even funny, sammy will slap together a nice bloatware again that will eat up more than half of the RAM anyways, not even considering buying if there will be no nexus version of it.
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Well it does have 3gb of RAM. Samsung's bloatware can't eat THAT much RAM. This time it seems some of the software are actually useful, like the magazine thing.

Any idea if this will have wireless charging?

Note 3 and z ultra are both nice. Waiting for a head to head review before deciding myself. Htc max might be nice too but i doubt it.
Regardless, will wait for a $500 pricetag anyway. Maybe black friday or an xmas sale.
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zai89 said:
Bye2 samsung, welcome nexus.
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Then Bye bye to external sdcard slots and removable battery.
Xperia Z1 looks tempting for it's 20.7mp camera, it gets much love from the AOSP crowd and CM, however the screen looks unsaturated and the bezel is huge as Nexus 7. This sure is a tough decision. Note 3 is perfect in every way but freakin' Samsung sources makes flashing to AOSP roms obsolete. There's pro and cons. There really isn't a perfect phone in the market is there?:crying:

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Then Bye bye to external sdcard slots and removable battery.
Xperia Z1 looks tempting for it's 20.7mp camera, it gets much love from the AOSP crowd and CM, however the screen looks unsaturated and the bezel is huge as Nexus 7. This sure is a tough decision. Note 3 is perfect in every way but freakin' Samsung sources makes flashing to AOSP roms obsolete. There's pro and cons. There really isn't a perfect phone in the market is there?:crying:
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Does the same problem exist for the Snapdragon 800 version of the Note 3?

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Does the same problem exist for the Snapdragon 800 version of the Note 3?
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Good question. I'd like to have sd card slot and removable battery - that droved me to note1.
Now if s800 will be supported better then I'd love to have this hardware without bloat.

nigi73 said:
Good question. I'd like to have sd card slot and removable battery - that droved me to note1.
Now if s800 will be supported better then I'd love to have this hardware without bloat.
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Tho I bet the internal storage will still be limited, just like the S4

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Tho I bet the internal storage will still be limited, just like the S4
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No problem with 64gb card

Whatever people say, samsung really made android commercial which the htc was unable to do in the past. The initial TW on galaxy S and the note 1 evolved greatly and now bears really capable features. Those who are tired of it can move but those who dont want to root or custom flash their devices can enjoy the stock loaded android with many special features like the multiwindow the scrapbook, new S note and obviously the s pen.
Let others do complains about samsung. I am among those who appreciate their hard work and tribute to them to make my note 1 functional and up to date even after 2 years.
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I was thinking about buying a Nokia Lumia... aaand the Note 3 was anounced. It's the best update for the note 1. The hardware and the desing are very good. I just hope the price will not be tooooo much high like 700$ ^^. I'm going to wait when it will be 500$.

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I was thinking about buying a Nokia Lumia... aaand the Note 3 was anounced. It's the best update for the note 1. The hardware and the desing are very good. I just hope the price will not be tooooo much high like 700$ ^^. I'm going to wait when it will be 500$.
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totally agree
before I fork that money I want to be sure genious devs have adopted it and got it working without to much work. Good sources etc.
was hoping on wrist mountable flexible screen. This wil do lol, knox is awesome.

I wonder what the screen will be like? Hopefully a lot better than the note 1, it's almost impossible to watch any film etc on mine, if there's any dark colours it just clogs up on the screen, Note 3 hopefully has ironed out all this!

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I wonder what the screen will be like? Hopefully a lot better than the note 1, it's almost impossible to watch any film etc on mine, if there's any dark colours it just clogs up on the screen, Note 3 hopefully has ironed out all this!
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That was my concern, too. I searched and found Note 2 did not have the problem. So, I believe Note 3 also does not have the problem. Cannot wait.
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Waiting to see the u boxing
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I wait to see more custom CM 10.2 rom (or up) popping up before going in.
I probably could never go back to touchwiz after cyanmod...

buying N4 in 2014?

hello, I was wondering what phone to choose next to use daily and I thought of Nexus 4, but I'm a bit concerning since this phone is quite long in market and should I really think about buying one by myself? Maybe someone could give me advice about this matter?

I would, I bought mine in February. it's indeed for quite some time on the market but it's still on of the best and the support on XDA is unbelievable. I really love this phone!
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How could anybody really tell if it's worth it?
Without the information of how much you can get it. How much other newer phones will cost you.... What are coming from.
For example a nexus 4 around 300 us dollars when a nexus 5 is new for 350 doesn't make much sense. But for a different price it can make a lot of sense.

I would say go for a
nexus 5 or a g2
In UAE both are for (400$) now so........
If can find a new n4 then.......
It have to be at 200$ if no, then don't buy it
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albundy2010 said:
How could anybody really tell if it's worth it?
Without the information of how much you can get it. How much other newer phones will cost you.... What are coming from.
For example a nexus 4 around 300 us dollars when a nexus 5 is new for 350 doesn't make much sense. But for a different price it can make a lot of sense.
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Im coming from old xperia, so almost any new device would be an upgrade for me anyway.
N5 for $350 would be ok, but it is not possible for me to acquire it for that price (it is somewhere around $500).
I was considering lumia 920 /xperia SP and Nexus4, and all are basically in the same price range.

Well despite it's ****ty camera (compared to other smartphones in the same price range), it's the most obvious choice when it comes to functionality, performance, customization and support. If you can live with that, get a Nexus 4.
There are lots of similar threads, I don't see the point of opening a new one, considering all the phone in your price range are relatively dated ones too.

I bought mine 3 weeks ago and i am happy. 250 euros, new. The N5 is 330 euros.
Camera was bad at first, but the more i use it the better the photos are (call me crazy haha) so the pictures are very nice now. My ex-Note 2 had better autofocus and video, but the N4 camera is better in every other part.

i bought a nexus 4 on 1st january, u can also go for galaxy s3 , its quite a good phone with better camera and display,,

Sure the nexus 4 is a great phone with an unbelievable good support on xda. But i suggest to buy a Samsung galaxy s4, because it has some features, which were for some people are important. For example changeable battery, no softkeys , better display , sd card slot etc. But if you want a very good support and tons of roms then nexus ftw.
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I'm constantly switching between my N4 and N5, and the difference is noticable, but only when you have both side by side. Nexus 4 is a very good device as it is, capable of handling most of what you throw at it. If you get a good price for it, go ahead. You won't regret it

get the neuxs 4, i just got a samsung s4 to compare it and i find it terrible, the s4 has alot of features but if your not staying on touchwiz your better off with a nexus, you can get used to not having a sd card.
After having a nexus4 you feel no need to upgrade,the n5 looks nice but i think battery isnt big enough for the 5 inches.
N4 2100 vs 2300mah N5

republicano said:
get the neuxs 4, i just got a samsung s4 to compare it and i find it terrible, the s4 has alot of features but if your not staying on touchwiz your better off with a nexus, you can get used to not having a sd card.
After having a nexus4 you feel no need to upgrade,the n5 looks nice but i think battery isnt big enough for the 5 inches.
N4 2100 vs 2300mah N5
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Actually my n5 has better battery life than what my n4 was ever capable of.
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Better wait for Nexus 6

exb0 said:
Actually my n5 has better battery life than what my n4 was ever capable of.
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the reviews state its better on battery and faster to charge than the nexus4, reading reviews people expect a bigger battery due to the screen size, comparing other phones with 5inch displays, but vanilla android helps significantly
having a samsung s4, i was expecting the 2600mah battery to last a very long time, it was ok on standby and with touchwiz but all the bloat and features consume power, with the display on it was simple to trigger 1.8ghz and that would drain it faster, under clocking didnt help with UI tearing there are kernels and roms to help but i only like PA
i will wait for hybrid on PA before updating to kitkat
dont bother about nexus 6,7,8,9,10, if you want to future proof by a nokia 3310 and wait 10 years.

republicano said:
the reviews state its better on battery and faster to charge than the nexus4, reading reviews people expect a bigger battery due to the screen size, comparing other phones with 5inch displays, but vanilla android helps significantly
having a samsung s4, i was expecting the 2600mah battery to last a very long time, it was ok on standby and with touchwiz but all the bloat and features consume power, with the display on it was simple to trigger 1.8ghz and that would drain it faster, under clocking didnt help with UI tearing there are kernels and roms to help but i only like PA
i will wait for hybrid on PA before updating to kitkat
dont bother about nexus 6,7,8,9,10, if you want to future proof by a nokia 3310 and wait 10 years.
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but a Nexus 7 and 10 already exist
Yeah it's much faster to charge and much slower to completely deplete the battery. Sure it could've had a bigger battery, but it could have gotten a high price too. People tend to forget the price of a nexus device and expect it to be the best of the best.

The nexus 4 is epic, I bought it in September and it is rooted and has a custom rom on it. It has quite good battery life, really good performance, and it keeps the stock android experience rather than Samsung phones clogging up the phone with TouchWiz.

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get the neuxs 4, i just got a samsung s4 to compare it and i find it terrible, the s4 has alot of features but if your not staying on touchwiz your better off with a nexus, you can get used to not having a sd card.
After having a nexus4 you feel no need to upgrade,the n5 looks nice but i think battery isnt big enough for the 5 inches.
N4 2100 vs 2300mah N5
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But if you install a custom ROM like cm or Google edition, then its like a nexus with pure android + changeable battery+ SD card slot+ better camera and display. Don't understand me wrong ( i love my nexus 4 and its smooth and powerful, without any lags). I am not a Samsung fanboy but if i can choose today which phone i should take i would take the s4 or lg g2.
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You can wait for a while and buy the Nexus 6.

When will it be released? somewhere around october/november? I'm afraid that would take too much time.

Trust me it's a great phone even today. I bought mine around Fall 2012 and although I had to change the battery once, it is still running extremely smooth with Kit Kat 4.4.2. I recently upgraded to an iPhone 5S but gave my dad the Nexus 4. He says it's really speedy and at times even faster than the iPhone. Good phone for the price.