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HSPA+ Improvement

I know that the Atrix will not be compatible with AT&T LTE. When comparing Verizon's LTE with ATT's HSPA+, Verizon blows it out of the water. While I know that HSPA+ will never be as fast as LTE, does anyone know if there are plans to improve the speed of HSPA+ on ATT? I think it's able to perform speeds of 14 mpbs but the reports I have seen actually put it at 2-4 mbps.
Thanks,
Matt

Bracemg said:
I know that the Atrix will not be compatible with AT&T LTE. When comparing Verizon's LTE with ATT's HSPA+, Verizon blows it out of the water. While I know that HSPA+ will never be as fast as LTE, does anyone know if there are plans to improve the speed of HSPA+ on ATT? I think it's able to perform speeds of 14 mpbs but the reports I have seen actually put it at 2-4 mbps.
Thanks,
Matt
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They could very easily increase our speed, but the real question is "will they?".
It might be they are going to keep HSPA+ where it is because the network won't handle the volume of traffic, or might be because they want people to jump on LTE when they start that, (enthusiasts buying new LTE phones so they can utilize the faster speeds). in reality, we don't know, but can hope!

AT&T is slowly improving backhaul from what I hear. This should increase it pretty significantly, as T-Mobile is making similar improvements and seeing speeds in the 5+ mbps range. The most I've seen is 4.7 Mbps on my Atrix (up from 1.5 on my old Aria), so I know that the phone is capable of pretty significant speeds. The HSPA+ 14.4 radio on the Atrix is likely to top out at around 7-10 mbps once all the network improvements have been finished.

Most of the towers are fast enough already but they get bogged down easily by many more people using it than it can handle, when they increase bandwidth you'll see improvements
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estenh said:
AT&T is slowly improving backhaul from what I hear. This should increase it pretty significantly, as T-Mobile is making similar improvements and seeing speeds in the 5+ mbps range. The most I've seen is 4.7 Mbps on my Atrix (up from 1.5 on my old Aria), so I know that the phone is capable of pretty significant speeds. The HSPA+ 14.4 radio on the Atrix is likely to top out at around 7-10 mbps once all the network improvements have been finished.
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I almost broke 7 Mbps down this morning. Upload is a steady and consistent 1.2 Mbps.

I get 3.5 down and 1 up... I have no 4g here, at least that's what it says in about phone.
SIGH.
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Appologies for my ignorance, but what app are you using to measure speed?
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I get 3.5 down and 1 up... I have no 4g here, at least that's what it says in about phone.
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Bracemg said:
Appologies for my ignorance, but what app are you using to measure speed?
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Speedtest, pretty much the standard we all use:
Speedtest Mobile
If you use it, make sure to check settings and select the server closest to you. Speedtest can have a habit of picking a very distant server for you. Also, it sometimes pays to try different servers, as speed results will vary depending on the server and who runs it.

CaelanT said:
Speedtest, pretty much the standard we all use:
Speedtest Mobile
If you use it, make sure to check settings and select the server closest to you. Speedtest can have a habit of picking a very distant server for you. Also, it sometimes pays to try different servers, as speed results will vary depending on the server and who runs it.
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Just as a recommendation, if you get consistently varied results on the Speedtest app you can try different servers but also try http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/. It seems to give me far more consistent results, but I'm not sure about anyone else. The desktop page should load fine with that strong Flash support!

Yup, Speakeasy is another good one!
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tethering (hack) to my macbook air over wifi.

No Flames, just a friendly WiFi speed comparison

Hey, can somebody post a screen with their top speed (wifi) from their phone? I'm curious what real-world performance is between the "42mbps" radios is.
Ps-my home internet is rated at 18meg, so with devices connected, this is probably most of the pipe.
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How can you have a WiFI speed test .
Its dependant upon the speed of the users connection and those are many and varied 3meg can be a good connection for some .
Mine is within about 1% next to the router but drops the further i move away .
jje

nenol said:
Hey, can somebody post a screen with their top speed (wifi) from their phone? I'm curious what real-world performance is between the "42mbps" radios is.
Ps-my home internet is rated at 18meg, so with devices connected, this is probably most of the pipe.
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Not a flame, but what are you talking about?
Wi-Fi has nothing to do with what the "42mbps" radio is. That is HSPA+, and is not in use when Wi-Fi is connected. And it is totally dependent on your carrier, and their APN.
On AT&T, H+ can be different depending on which APN you are on - either "wap.cingular", "phone", or "pta".
If you are connected to Wi-Fi, your speed will be totally dependent on your Wi-Fi connection's speed, and will have nothing to do with the HSPA+ radio or your carrier.

Processor? What I know is this - my Sensation can't pull these numbers over WiFi. I realize that it's not the best test, because it is not cell data. However, I wanted to see what kind of throughput my phone is capable of, and how an S2 does. And yeah, internet speeds differ, but somebody out there has an S2 and WiFi as fast as mine. I suppose my curiosity is more toward "does it utilize it fully" more than "I live by a tower and my cell speed is X" - which seems far more arbitrary to me.
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nenol said:
Processor? What I know is this - my Sensation can't pull these numbers over WiFi. I realize that it's not the best test, because it is not cell data. However, I wanted to see what kind of throughput my phone is capable of, and how an S2 does. And yeah, internet speeds differ, but somebody out there has an S2 and WiFi as fast as mine. I suppose my curiosity is more toward "does it utilize it fully" more than "I live by a tower and my cell speed is X" - which seems far more arbitrary to me.
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No offense, but this is worse than arbitrary. You have no way of knowing if someone else's Wi-Fi is the same speed as yours, which already makes this "test" invalid.
If you want to know a true comparison between S2 Wi-Fi performance vs Amaze Wi-Fi performance, you'll need the two phones side-by-side hooked up to the same Wi-Fi.

My s2 pulls from 10Mb to 24Mb

Connection is 50Mb

Thanks to those who informed why it was a silly question, thanks especially to those who managed to overcome the silliness and post numbers. My question is answered.
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It goes quite fast
SGS2 BT infinity fttc

My ISP is 100mbps
With wired PC I get ~90mbps down and ~80mbps up
So phone results are not very good

What is up with this wifi performance?

I ran Speedtest on my Nexus 4 over my local wifi network and saw something surprising. I am getting only about 6Mbps download speeds. I'm on a 40Mbps Internet connection. My Galaxy Nexus gets 30Mbps on the same wifi network using the same Speedtest server.
Maybe not coincidentally my T-Mobile HSPA+ speeds also seem to cap around 6Mbps usually.
I'm scratching my head, this can't be normal, right?
Galaxy Nexus on the left, Nexus 4 on the right.
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I ran Speedtest on my Nexus 4 over my local wifi network and saw something surprising. I am getting only about 6Mbps download speeds. I'm on a 40Mbps Internet connection. My Galaxy Nexus gets 30Mbps on the same wifi network using the same Speedtest server.
Maybe not coincidentally my T-Mobile HSPA+ speeds also seem to cap around 6Mbps usually.
I'm scratching my head, this can't be normal, right?
Galaxy Nexus on the left, Nexus 4 on the right.
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Play with your router settings. Mine goes to almost 30mbps on 60mbps connection.
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But why would the Galaxy Nexus work properly without tweaking the router?
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Did you test the speed on both devices at the same time? Or does that happen separately as well
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MattSkeet said:
Did you test the speed on both devices at the same time? Or does that happen separately as well
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That photo was me running the Speedtest simultaneously. But I tested both phones multiple times individually as well with the same results.

Why does the speedtest app show fullscreen on the nexus, but on the nexus 4 it not?

Tenji7 said:
Why does the speedtest app show fullscreen on the nexus, but on the nexus 4 it not?
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Because the screen resolution is really high and the app can't accommodate it
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tinky1 said:
Play with your router settings. Mine goes to almost 30mbps on 60mbps connection.
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I was skeptical about the issue being my router, it's a nice ASUS RT-N66U router. And I have an iPad 3, Kindle Fire HD, and Galaxy Nexus all getting 30 to 35Mbps results from speedtest tonight, while only the Nexus 4 seems to be struggling around 6Mbps.
But I logged into the router and looked around at wifi settings that might be affecting this.
The router is set to "N only" mode, because I have no 802.11g or lesser devices. I'm using both 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands and have issues with both. 2.4GHz is on channel 1, which is the least crowded in my neighborhood.
I looked at this setting called "Channel bandwidth". I have mine set to 40MHz for optimal performance. But it has a note that I should set this to 20Mhz if there are stability issues. I set the channel bandwidth down to 20Mhz and now I'm getting almost 35Mbps on my Nexus 4. I set it back to 40Mhz and now my Nexus 4 is back to 6Mbps. Back again to 20MHz, and back to 35Mbps. It's definitely the channel bandwidth.
Not sure why the Nexus 4 has such a problem with 40Mhz channel bandwidth when nothing else has an issue with it. However 20Mhz doesn't seem to be hurting my other devices performance. So issue solved.
Good call.

reboot the phone and try again.

A little late to reply. Was going to tell you exactly what you did. Glad you got it figured out
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A little late to reply. Was going to tell you exactly what you did. Glad you got it figured out
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Yeah, uh, me too. Dammit we're smart!
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Sometimes problems with channel width is caused by wmp or.similar setting try disabling that (the whatever power/resource/priority setting newer routers seem to have)

Speedtests: GS5 on Google Gigabit Fiber and Sprint Spark

GS5 performs really well on Google Gigabit Fiber and Sprint tri-band. I'm getting up to 180Mbps on Google Fiber and around 40Mbps LTE indoors at home, though I'm just a few blocks from a cellsite. The first 3 results are on Google Gigabit Fiber in KC, the second three are Sprint Spark.
BTW, more on Google Fiber here...
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r29157624-Google-Fiber-Kansas-City
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Damn I'd crap my pants and cry at the same time if i ever had DL speeds that fast!

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GS5 performs really well on Google Gigabit Fiber and Sprint tri-band. I'm getting up to 180Mbps on Google Fiber and around 40Mbps LTE indoors at home, though I'm just a few blocks from a cellsite. The first 3 results are on Google Gigabit Fiber in KC, the second three are Sprint Spark.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3812896/Pics/Android/GFIber Sprint GS5.png
BTW, more on Google Fiber here...
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r29157624-Google-Fiber-Kansas-City
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I don't understand, isn't google fiber just using your wifi? Do other phones have trouble downloading through your wifi or is the S5 performing differently?

mrjeff2 said:
I don't understand, isn't google fiber just using your wifi? Do other phones have trouble downloading through your wifi or is the S5 performing differently?
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Just showing the max the WiFi on this phone can do. In comparison, a Nexus 7 (2013) can do about 100Mbps, the N7 (2012) and Galaxy S3 and can do about 25-40. I suspect most SnapDragon 801 devices would be over 150Mbps as well, not sure.

xenokc said:
Just showing the max the WiFi on this phone can do. In comparison, a Nexus 7 (2013) can do about 100Mbps, the N7 (2012) and Galaxy S3 and can do about 25-40. I suspect most SnapDragon 801 devices would be over 150Mbps as well, not sure.
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Interesting - I've never paid attention to Wifi performance and was not aware performance varied greatly between devices. Thanks for sharing.

Good to know the wifi speeds are that high. This is my fastest speed on band 41 so far

Yeah. I'd crap my pants if I had Google Fiber... Wow.

I wish my phone would actually use band 41. Ive seen Spark speeds a whopping once. The rest of the time I see my awesome 3-4mb down.

Josh dew on youtube got his S5 to mid 800s download speeds using Google fiber.

Jahspree said:
Josh dew on youtube got his S5 to mid 800s download speeds using Google fiber.
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Which must be BS because WiFi won't do that fast lol.
These phones MAX at 866Mbps IF you have a AC router and happen to be close enough.
That said, WiFi has roughly 40% overhead so the best you could even imagine to ever see on this phone would be around the 500Mbps mark.
FWIW the speedtest app isn't dead accurate in itself.
It often times shows my speed faster vs. what I know my speed can do because I know exactly what my speed wall is and the upload on the phone generally overshoots it lol.
I'd be hard pressed to see you get gig through dual AC 1300Mbps routers even due to overhead.
They would be close but wired still wins.
I think for the OP the first thing would be what kind of router do you have, what band are you connected on and what was the link rate at time of test?
I bet the phone can do more but your wireless is the limit.

Houston

Please continue in the thread for dedicated Spark thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2720215

Top download and upload speeds that 6P can do it via Wifi (5Hz) ??

Hello,
Can anyone tell me what are the top speeds that 6P can do it via Wifi (5Hz) ?!
I have a N5, and a few months ago, on a shopping mall, me and a friend (with a Iphone 5S) decided to test wifi speeds of our devices. They have really good wifi speeds. They have 5Hz networks and usually I get over 100 Mb/s download speeds.
On that day we tested over speednet
I got around 80 Mb/s from download and 20 Mb/s on the upload. My friend, he got almost a symmetric result, around 80 Mb/s on both download and upload results!!
We test this several times and with consistent results, specially on the upload for me, never got better than 20 Mb/s and my friend always got on his iphone equal results for download and upload speeds.
So what I'm asking, does the 6P has better results compared with my N5 ?! What values can we speak about?!

I have had well over 100Mb/s down and up on a capable network via my 6P.

Nexus 6p is CAT6 LTE which means its max theoretical speed is 300Mbps
Wifi is 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2x2 MIMO, dual-band device. It contains the Broadcom BCM4358 chip which enable speeds up to 433 and 867 Mbps respectively

chaco81 said:
Nexus 6p is CAT6 LTE which means its max theoretical speed is 300Mbps
Wifi is 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2x2 MIMO, dual-band device. It contains the Broadcom BCM4358 chip which enable speeds up to 433 and 867 Mbps respectively
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Daayyyamm!! ?
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chaco81 said:
Nexus 6p is CAT6 LTE which means its max theoretical speed is 300Mbps
Wifi is 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2x2 MIMO, dual-band device. It contains the Broadcom BCM4358 chip which enable speeds up to 433 and 867 Mbps respectively
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What this guy said. I'm able to reach my 200mpbs consistently as well.
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About a foot away from my router. Doesn't get close to maxing out my connection.
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darkjedi said:
About a foot away from my router. Doesn't get close to maxing out my connection.
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What router do you have?
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scandalous01 said:
What router do you have?
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Asus RT-AC68P. I had no interest in spending $400 for some crazy router.
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darkjedi said:
Asus RT-AC68P. I had no interest in spending $400 for some crazy router.
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That's weird. I have the same router. Perhaps it's the setup or the firmware?
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scandalous01 said:
That's weird. I have the same router. Perhaps it's the setup or the firmware?
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Using my PC, I can get a good 400+Mbps, but wired is always faster. Then again, who needs 200+Mbps on a phone anyway? ??
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darkjedi said:
Using my PC, I can get a good 400+Mbps, but wired is always faster. Then again, who needs 200+Mbps on a phone anyway? ?
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I do! Lots of internal file transfers to and from my file server. I wish it would actually connect at 1300Mbps instead of just 866. I can only manage to pull from the file server at about 70MB/s vs 110 over a wire.