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Hey guys,
Was just browsing some sites and read about lag fix for galaxy S, and also read about it working on viewsonic G tablet. I heard it increases performance for the tablets and phones. Can this lag fix be applied to the ADAM, and will it make any tangible differences?
Im completely new to android, so i am uncertain about these things. Any devs know?
I dont understand. Is this "lag fix" an Application.
Update: I just researched this, It seem if though your device must be rooted. In addition It seems to be designed for the Galaxy s phones. The Adam uses a different Kernal version. It seems as if this was a fix for an inherant in the phones software.
Seeing as its not meant for the Adam and that your new to android I would not attempt to use it.
Why would you think you needed it anyway?
There are a number of "lag-fixes" out there... which one are you referring to?
@number01pup -- the OP did mention a lag fix for the ViewSonic G-Tablet which is also running on the Tegra2 SoC and is a very similar platform. However, when I was involved with the Gtablet there were a couple of controversial lag-fixes such as the Data2Loop fix as well as a number of generally accepted updates that got baked into the ROMS.
@joshua.lyon Yes I had seen these as well. But even though the hardware of the Adam and the Gtablet are similar, the software they are using is very different. Although there both listed as running 2.2, the Adam also incorporates bits and pieces of 2.3. Theres to many unknowns to just go and install it based on it working on the Gtablet.
But again why would ou need the lag fix. Is the a confirmed and wide spread problem with the Adam being laggy.
Its not laggy, and I dont have my device yet.
I, like most just want to get the absolute most out of my device. If this lag fix can improve performance I just want to see if we can use it.
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@joshua.lyon Yes I had seen these as well. But even though the hardware of the Adam and the Gtablet are similar, the software they are using is very different. Although there both listed as running 2.2, the Adam also incorporates bits and pieces of 2.3. Theres to many unknowns to just go and install it based on it working on the Gtablet.
But again why would ou need the lag fix. Is the a confirmed and wide spread problem with the Adam being laggy.
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Don't jump to conclusions. I wasn't going anywhere near recommending people go and install packages for the GTablet on their devices. I was simply questioning the original poster as to which specific "lag-fix" they were talking about. I used the G-tablet threads as a reference point for the OP since their comment was really vague.
That being said, if there was a specific fix the original poster was interested in, it might possible that it's could be ported over to the Adam. Hence the reason I was trying to better understand what he was interested in...
Heck, we already have GApps, Market, and Ad Hoc support which came from some of the GTablet devs (Roebeet, Rothnic, GoJimi, etc)
joshua.lyon said:
Don't jump to conclusions. I wasn't going anywhere near recommending people go and install packages for the GTablet on their devices. I was simply questioning the original poster as to which specific "lag-fix" they were talking about. I used the G-tablet threads as a reference point for the OP since their comment was really vague.
That being said, if there was a specific fix the original poster was interested in, it might possible that it's could be ported over to the Adam. Hence the reason I was trying to better understand what he was interested in...
Heck, we already have GApps, Market, and Ad Hoc support which came from some of the GTablet devs (Roebeet, Rothnic, GoJimi, etc)
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Yea, that was pretty vague. I guess what I heard was that with "lagfix" there was an increase in overall performance for the tablet.
This website below is what got me thinking:
http://project-voodoo.org/lagfix
I know this is for nexus S, but I saw some people saying they got a large amount of improvment in benchmarks and overall performance of their Viewsonic G tablet by using lagfix.
I am not sure if it is the same lag fix or not, and Im wondering if something similar should be made available to the ADAM
Coming from a Galaxy S user, the lag-fix you read about in those forums is for a special case. The file system Samsung implemented in the Galaxy S line, RFS, is poorly implemented and resulted in sub-par performance for the Hummingbird processor. The lag-fix basically changes some system folders into ext2, ext4 or JFS for improvement. It's something that was done as a remedy to RFS because it would gradually slow down the more you used it and installed apps.
I sincerely doubt the adam needs a lag-fix because all videos of it I've seen tend to show it running flawlessly. I don't have one in my hand, yet, but if I get one I'll look more into that.
Also if I get one, I plan on developing a theme or two at the very least. =)
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S and an Adam and I can tell you that the adam does not need a lag fix like my phone does.
Since this is a question, I have moved it to general. All further questions should be posted in this section.
Flaunt77 said:
Hey guys,
Was just browsing some sites and read about lag fix for galaxy S, and also read about it working on viewsonic G tablet. I heard it increases performance for the tablets and phones. Can this lag fix be applied to the ADAM, and will it make any tangible differences?
Im completely new to android, so i am uncertain about these things. Any devs know?
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Are you sure you read that right, might you have a source or a link for that info? Could it be you're mistaking the GTab (Samsung Galaxy Tab) with the Viewsonic G Tablet?
The "lag fix" is for Samsung Galaxy S devices, of which the Gtab is just a 7" version of, that's why it works on it as well.. It fixes the lag on those devices, which I think has to do with it's Hummingbird processor.
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Yea, that was pretty vague. I guess what I heard was that with "lagfix" there was an increase in overall performance for the tablet.
This website below is what got me thinking:
http://project-voodoo.org/lagfix
I know this is for nexus S, but I saw some people saying they got a large amount of improvment in benchmarks and overall performance of their Viewsonic G tablet by using lagfix.
I am not sure if it is the same lag fix or not, and Im wondering if something similar should be made available to the ADAM
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Hey, where have you read this "lagfix" is for a Nexus S? Please link source, I'd like to read it.
thanks,
-CC
clockcycle said:
Are you sure you read that right, might you have a source or a link for that info? Could it be you're mistaking the GTab (Samsung Galaxy Tab) with the Viewsonic G Tablet?
The "lag fix" is for Samsung Galaxy S devices, of which the Gtab is just a 7" version of, that's why it works on it as well.. It fixes the lag on those devices, which I think has to do with it's Hummingbird processor.
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no it has to do with a efs filesystem choosen by samsung which is bad for performance
for example voodoo converts it to ext4
this does not apply for the nexus s
just galaxy s and tab
You could probably get _some_ improvement in performance by changing the file system of the Adam to ext4 (if it isn't ext4 already), but we should first try to find out exactly what kind of memory is used in the Adam. The wrong file system could break it. Aside from that, it doesn't seem that the Adam really need it, since it doesn't have the loading issues the Galaxy S 2.1 and 2.2 (fixed in 2.2.1) has.
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You could probably get _some_ improvement in performance by changing the file system of the Adam to ext4 (if it isn't ext4 already), but we should first try to find out exactly what kind of memory is used in the Adam. The wrong file system could break it. Aside from that, it doesn't seem that the Adam really need it, since it doesn't have the loading issues the Galaxy S 2.1 and 2.2 (fixed in 2.2.1) has.
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i just changed my a101's filesystem to ext4 from ext3 you could check ur's with terminal emulator or linux...
I sadly don't have an Adam yet to check these things out. :/ Still waiting to pre-order the LCD-Version.
If you need help with terminal pm me
Btw thanks to notion ink for their cool apps i am running on my archos ;-)
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gbohm said:
no it has to do with a efs filesystem choosen by samsung which is bad for performance
for example voodoo converts it to ext4
this does not apply for the nexus s
just galaxy s and tab
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Definitely not quite as necessary, but ironically enough, Nexus S will still benefit from EXT4 hacks because not all of the mount options are enabled from the factory. I'm currently on a Nexus S kernel that raises my IO performance considerably due to that.
While some of these lagfixes are general, valid performance increses, things like ramdisks for the /data partition are simply there to raise quadrant scores.
Also, I believe you're referring to the RFS file system. /EFS refers to a partition on the root of the device which houses things like the IMEI information in Samsung Android devices.
Hello,
I just would like to share my experience of moving from the stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean to the CM10 release, mostly for people who are still using stock 4.1.2 because I couldn't find such a thread before jumping to CM10.
I installed the 5th November nightly release of CM10 as the more recent ones (including the "stable" release) have an annoying problem : the Play Store reports some incompatibilities with apps which were working fine with the stock 4.1.2. It seems that this problem is due to the lack of free memory with the newest CM10 releases ...
The 11/05 CM10 was the last one with no Play Store problems, you can download it here for the Wingray :
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383656/cm-10-20121105-NIGHTLY-wingray.zip
EDIT : on the 6th December, I updated my Xoom from the 11/05 nightly to the 12/05 nightly, and so far I still didn't have the Play Store compatibility issue, which means the problem has been solved in between these two releases ...
Performances :
I must admit that I didn't think it was possible that a custom ROM was better optimized than the one made by Google itself ...
I was very happy with the fluidity of the stock 4.1.2, but when I used CM10 for the first time, I tried some websites known to be a bit laggy with the stock browser, and they were just close to perfect about fluidity with CM10 ! I couldn't find a laggy website with stock browser yet ... These tests were not involving overclocking.
So I then ran Quadrant and had a score of 2800, where I had 1900 with stock 4.1.2 ... !
I then overclocked the Xoom to 1,5 GHZ, and Quadrant reported a score of 4100, about equal to the Transformer Prime !
I don't really play with my Xoom but I tried to play to GTA III, and when overclocked, compared to the stock 4.1.2, I could put a lot more graphical details with a better fluidity. I really felt like using a whole new device. But most of the time I don't use overclocking as I want to save my battery life, and the overall fluidity of the Xoom running CM10 at 1GHz is very good.
A few people reported they found a performances increase with the very last nightly release. However, as it still have some compatibility problems with the Play Store, I will not jump on it.
I don't know if Cyanogen will try to solve this incompatibility issue as it maybe related to the Gapps taking too much storage space, and Cyanogen does not support Gapps ...
Updates :
I choosed a Cyanogen rom (instead of EOS) because with this one you can easily update to newer ROM release very easily, without the need to connect your Xoom to the PC, and without loosing datas : CM10 includes an update manager which proceeds just like an official Google OTA ! That's just perfect to me, I'm not sure if this does also exist on EOS, I couldn't find any informations about this.
So I have the feeling that my Xoom is still supported and updated, which is very good. Thanks a million to Cyanogen team !
Bugs :
I couldn't find bugs yet on the 11/05 release, I just had an unexpected reboot the very first time I used it, only after 5 minutes of use. Since then, I never had this problem again (3 days with no reboots for now).
Features :
I didn't try all of them yet, but there are plenty of cool features :
- overclocking ability with multiple policies possible to save battery life for exemple, or for the best performances all the time.
- other performances tweaks about RAM like "KSM" use, and some other parameters which allow better performances but lowering the battery life.
- root of course !
- the ability to light the charging LED, even when your Xoom is powered on.
- many many others, some I didn't tried/discovered yet.
So I am very happy now with CM10, and I would like to thanks Cyanogen again about this excellent work !
I would recommand to any stock 4.1.2 users to jump on to CM10, the Xoom will just be running better then !
Here is the link which explains how to jump to a Cyanogen ROM :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/wiki/Mo...de#Installing_the_ClockworkMod_Recovery_Image
Have fun !
TeamEOS has all the features you mentioned and you can update it easily as well. Don't need a computer, they use GooManager. In short they are both good ROMs, there is nothing to dislike about both of those ROMs, both teams have putted a lot of effort into optimising the XOOM and adding functions/features. It's all up to user preference, with CM ROMs I get random reboots, while TeamEOS I don't get any of that.
Chaosgod27 said:
TeamEOS has all the features you mentioned and you can update it easily as well. Don't need a computer, they use GooManager. In short they are both good ROMs, there is nothing to dislike about both of those ROMs, both teams have putted a lot of effort into optimising the XOOM and adding functions/features. It's all up to user preference, with CM ROMs I get random reboots, while TeamEOS I don't get any of that.
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How polished is the root/rom procedure for the Xoom? I came from the Transformer world and it was pretty well dialed in..not a lot of monkeying around or knowledge required.
What's the easiest way to get root and a custom rom?
rpavich said:
How polished is the root/rom procedure for the Xoom? I came from the Transformer world and it was pretty well dialed in..not a lot of monkeying around or knowledge required.
What's the easiest way to get root and a custom rom?
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Idk, never rooted or used a Asus tablet. Once the Xoom is unlocked and rooted you really have no need for a PC unless you use fastboot & adb to flash, push, pull, etc.....
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Chaosgod27 said:
TeamEOS has all the features you mentioned and you can update it easily as well. Don't need a computer, they use GooManager. In short they are both good ROMs, there is nothing to dislike about both of those ROMs, both teams have putted a lot of effort into optimising the XOOM and adding functions/features. It's all up to user preference, with CM ROMs I get random reboots, while TeamEOS I don't get any of that.
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Definitely. I've used both ROMs, but struggled with SOD's on EOS Stable and lag on the nightlies! CM10 solved both of these issues for me. Both ROMs are full of features and and a no brainer compared with stock.
Regards.
lynxboy said:
Definitely. I've used both ROMs, but struggled with SOD's on EOS Stable and lag on the nightlies! CM10 solved both of these issues for me. Both ROMs are full of features and and a no brainer compared with stock.
Regards.
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Thanks a lot, that's interesting. I was more and more thinking about trying the EOS ROM, but I was too lazy about reinstalling all my softwares and data ...
What do you mean by "SOD" ?
It's very interesting to have the feedbacks of people having tried both custom ROMs, it would be cool if some other people could give their opinion.
dizzy33 said:
It's very interesting to have the feedbacks of people having tried both custom ROMs, it would be cool if some other people could give their opinion.
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i have not tried EOS yet. CM10 runs absolutely flawless. I got a good 14hrs -/+ on the battery playing Deadzone, watching movings, browsing the net, skyping with my kids and I still have 28% left today. No OC. Having full R/W access to the External Sdcard is great. I now can Dropsync my folders from my Dropbox to the card for a quick handy on the go backup
EOS from what i have heard has some great features.....i will need to backup and give it a go here soon.
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rpavich said:
How polished is the root/rom procedure for the Xoom? I came from the Transformer world and it was pretty well dialed in..not a lot of monkeying around or knowledge required.
What's the easiest way to get root and a custom rom?
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Yes it's very easy, considering this is a google experience device all you really have to do is unlock it, flash in recovery and then using recovery flash in another ROM. You should have zero problems at all, considering the bootloader is unlocked.
Can anyone please tell me if one of the december CM10 nightly did solve the Play Store incompatibility problem ?
Thanks !
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Can anyone please tell me if one of the december CM10 nightly did solve the Play Store incompatibility problem ?
Thanks !
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No need to ask this question almost everywhere.......I have not experienced any market issues.....
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cdexsw said:
No need to ask this question almost everywhere.......I have not experienced any market issues.....
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as long as you will not entirely answer my questions, I will still ask it, and I'm free to do it !
Yes you don't have this problem now, thanks for this information, but did you have this problem before ?
If you never had this problem, this means you may not be using the CM10 Gapps but the EOS one, or you just didn't realize that you actually have a compatibility issue with the Play Store ... It's easy, check the application named "eye in sky weather", if the store says that it's not compatible with your device, it means that you're facing the compatibility issue as this application is in fact compatible with the Xoom. Of course this problem is not only for this application, there are many others which are reported as not compatible ...
dizzy33 said:
as long as you will not entirely answer my questions, I will still ask it, and I'm free to do it !
Yes you don't have this problem now, thanks for this information, but did you have this problem before ?
If you never had this problem, this means you may not be using the CM10 Gapps but the EOS one, or you just didn't realize that you actually have a compatibility issue with the Play Store ... It's easy, check the application named "eye in sky weather", if the store says that it's not compatible with your device, it means that you're facing the compatibility issue as this application is in fact compatible with the Xoom. Of course this problem is not only for this application, there are many others which are reported as not compatible ...
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I am using the latest nightly. In fact i have used all the December nightlies with no issues.
As far as gapps, i have used that lastest gapps 4.1.2 and i have tried gapps 4.2+. I used the gapps posted in the link on first page of this thread both packages i have experienced no issues, market is working fine, no incompatibilities.
As far as my comment about aking your questions.....ask in one place....no need to ask your question in every forum are start a new thread.....i was not being rude, it is in the forums rules.......
Good luck.....
Also, check your dpi settings....that will cause market issues. Search the forums & google the fix is simple...
Also try manual installing an older marker version or try or KDH 4.2 gapps.
These are all solutions to your issue(s). No one else may try and answer you question because they are not having or no longer have these issues.......what i posted above are the steps to fix the issue.
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Thanks for these informations, I'll check this. But for now I have no problems with the market as I am using the 11/05 release. The problem came after this release and was known to be due to a free memory issue (check my first post of this thread). That's why I was asking if a recent release of CM10 did solve this problem.
EDIT : I just jumped from 11/05 nightly to 12/05, and I still have no problems with the Play Store, which means the Play Store compatibility problem has been solved in between these two releases ... Great news !
Thanks
Thanks man, that's what I needed to migrate, a good experience report.
I heard about incompatibilities, also that some apps won't work, but I can manage that. I'm now going to make a backup of my things and this weekend I want to install CM10. The main problem now is the backup, since I have a lot of things on it, both the internal memory and SD are quite full. XD
The most surprising thing is that I could not find any report about this bug correction, which was a very annoying bug, but I could find plenty of threads talking about this problem and trying to find workaround solutions ... None of them reported this bug does not exist anymore ...
Similar ROM experiences...
Chaosgod27 said:
TeamEOS has all the features you mentioned and you can update it easily as well. Don't need a computer, they use GooManager. In short they are both good ROMs, there is nothing to dislike about both of those ROMs, both teams have putted a lot of effort into optimising the XOOM and adding functions/features. It's all up to user preference, with CM ROMs I get random reboots, while TeamEOS I don't get any of that.
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I had similar random rebooting issues using the CM9 ROMs on my tablet which is why I use Team EOS. Both ROMs do have similar features and it comes down to user preference and which UI you prefer.. but BOTH are quality software and greatly appreciated!
Hi guys, I just got a Nexus 4, and its my first android smartphone. So my question is, should I update to 4.3 right now? I didn't installed any apps yet, cause I wanted to ask here before doing anything (I've been reading this forum since I ordered my Nexus). Is there any chance of a new update coming soon to fix the problems a lot of people are reporting here? If yes I think I should wait for it, but if not, should I update even with a lot of problems been reported?
Thx a lot
Yes I would probably go ahead update if I just the phone. There aren't a lot of problems with the new 4.3. Its just complicated for people to go from custom 4.2.2 ROM to 4.3.
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Thx I think I will update it then!
Be aware that there might be some issues between applications and android 4.3 still.
Luis_D1 said:
Be aware that there might be some issues between applications and android 4.3 still.
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Netflix is one of them with a nasty sleep of death. But its not a problem on 4.3 persay, its a problem with the developers and needing them to update.
Nexus = beta testers
I'm in the same boat, I've got a new Nexus 4 and I haven't updated yet due to the issues being raised. Is there any real concern about the batteries burning out or the Wifi being finicky?
I haven't done any customization, and if the only issue is that the apps aren't updated to work with 4.3, then that's not a real concern for me.
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I'm in the same boat, I've got a new Nexus 4 and I haven't updated yet due to the issues being raised. Is there any real concern about the batteries burning out or the Wifi being finicky?
I haven't done any customization, and if the only issue is that the apps aren't updated to work with 4.3, then that's not a real concern for me.
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I have been running 4.3 (first stock, then custom ROMs) for more than three weeks and have not seen any problems with wi-fi connectivity or battery overheating.
Here is my simple poll... I am not giving reasons to why I am sticking with 4.2.2, as many will argue against my points. This is a poll so if anything it is all about your reason not mine, and how many are going one way or the other.
Upgrading, just so I Could get rid of that ugly green battery icon
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Change is inevitable. .. resistance is futile
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Change is inevitable. .. resistance is futile
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Outside of some small issues with stock firmware, once ironed out, 4.4.2 is more hype than what Google is offering. Change is good, as long as there is a reason to. So far I have no reason to change unless Samsung releases Tizan to the Note 8.0, which will never come.
Already updated using the UK update. Glad to be able to save Google Play All Access music to my SD card now. No down side that I can see.
Polaris Office 5 "usable" (without the long stripe, not root)... not sure if I deleted that app before or installed with 4.4.2 but for taking notes on clasess is a big plus for me. :good:
been using civs rom and kernel and don't feel a real need to update. a new rom won't speed up my ebook reading and comic reading. so it's gotta be preety feature packed for me to update. I haven't even taken 4.4 update on my gn10.1 2013 yet either.
just notice civ updated... so I most likely be upgrading soon, lol.
No good reason to upgrade other than having all 3 notes running KK. Goodness, not a good reason. Frankly, nothing outstanding was gained.
Via my Note 3
BclingergFJ said:
No good reason to upgrade other than having all 3 notes running KK. Goodness, not a good reason. Frankly, nothing outstanding was gained.
Via my Note 3
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Ive found KK on the Note 8 to be smoother and a little snappier
I upgraded and I cant really tell if anythings different
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You can now upgrade without the need for flashing the Kitkat Knox bootloader.
Install a custom Kitkat rom of your choosing and then install this kernel and you will have wifi and all things working + some extra's.
for now only for the 5110
civato said:
You can now upgrade without the need for flashing the Kitkat Knox bootloader.
Install a custom Kitkat rom of your choosing and then install this kernel and you will have wifi and all things working + some extra's.
for now only for the 5110
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I have used your kernel on your 4.2.2 Flexbeam. I had issues with Miracast and Fat32 on SD card. Stock is the only way for me to have my cake and eat it.
There is no real benefit, unless you want a few features that you won't use. A properly setup 4.2.2 will work just as good as 4.4.2 without all the headaches. By the time I will need a feature that I don't have now, I'll be upgrading my hardware. Since my poll has been created, we have a definite split. Yet nobody can give good reasons to upgrade, outside of being newer is better.
Civato, since you are pushing your custom ROM, I have the right to say what I think about it since this is my post. I have tried your ROM before, and found good work with your efforts, but the features you provide are not worth having issues associated with customization of the kernel. If anything nobody not even google can not fix their media subsystem. So, having 4.4.2 for me would be undoing what I have fixed on my device, an I do not care to do anymore troubleshooting as I have done since November with my Note 8.0.
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I have used your kernel on your 4.2.2 Flexbeam. I had issues with Miracast and Fat32 on SD card. Stock is the only way for me to have my cake and eat it.
There is no real benefit, unless you want a few features that you won't use. A properly setup 4.2.2 will work just as good as 4.4.2 without all the headaches. By the time I will need a feature that I don't have now, I'll be upgrading my hardware. Since my poll has been created, we have a definite split. Yet nobody can give good reasons to upgrade, outside of being newer is better.
Civato, since you are pushing your custom ROM, I have the right to say what I think about it since this is my post. I have tried your ROM before, and found good work with your efforts, but the features you provide are not worth having issues associated with customization of the kernel. If anything nobody not even google can not fix their media subsystem. So, having 4.4.2 for me would be undoing what I have fixed on my device, an I do not care to do anymore troubleshooting as I have done since November with my Note 8.0.
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First things first, some fish slapping???????????????
I think you missed the whole point of my post.
Now as it is my right to answer you in YOUR THREAD. Here it is , THE WHY?
Sir,
I posted this info so any user Not wanting to upgrade to the kitkat bootloader that comes with the Knox counter and not possible to revert back to JellyBean Knox free bootloader, can now install a custom Kitkat rom and kernel and check it out. If they don't like it they can go back to JellyBean stock state with the Knox Free JellyBean bootloader.
clear enough.
Now my turn.
Watch my words, in the end 99% will be on kitkat as more regions are supported. I don't understand people. They b*tch about the late Kitkat update and when it finally arives they b*tch about nothing much has changed in UI.
Now mirrorcast is crap for me as it is samsung closed source. Im not supporting any propitairy thing as Android should be 100% open. If not I should by me a Apple.
your exfat problem? Not having it on kitkat as on kitkat they made it open source. On JellyBean it was also samsung propitairy crap so not ablle to really build it good into the kernel , for some cards then.
I have OTG with ntfs RW support , so easy to read out my big hdd. I have cifs, so easy to connect to the pc and read out a whole hdd of my pc.
I have dongle support what you may not find important but a lot others do.
I have supurb batterlife onthe new kitkat kernel and supurb speed that you will never get on stock kernel.
I can control any setting I want of my kernel.
If all people have the same attitude as you , root, custom roms , kernels, triangle away,..... would not exist. Buy a Apple is my advice to you then.
My 2 kids got both a Ipad mini and for them it is the best. Easy in use and really closed so they can't mess with a thing.
Oh and I'm not pushing my rom, I clearly say "a" custom rom.
Is this even my time worth ?
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First things first, some fish slapping������������������������������
I think you missed the whole point of my post.
Now as it is my right to answer you in YOUR THREAD. Here it is , THE WHY?
Sir,
I posted this info so any user Not wanting to upgrade to the kitkat bootloader that comes with the Knox counter and not possible to revert back to JellyBean Knox free bootloader, can now install a custom Kitkat rom and kernel and check it out. If they don't like it they can go back to JellyBean stock state with the Knox Free JellyBean bootloader.
clear enough.
Now my turn.
Watch my words, in the end 99% will be on kitkat as more regions are supported. I don't understand people. They b*tch about the late Kitkat update and when it finally arives they b*tch about nothing much has changed in UI.
Now mirrorcast is crap for me as it is samsung closed source. Im not supporting any propitairy thing as Android should be 100% open. If not I should by me a Apple.
your exfat problem? Not having it on kitkat as on kitkat they made it open source. On JellyBean it was also samsung propitairy crap so not ablle to really build it good into the kernel , for some cards then.
I have OTG with ntfs RW support , so easy to read out my big hdd. I have cifs, so easy to connect to the pc and read out a whole hdd of my pc.
I have dongle support what you may not find important but a lot others do.
I have supurb batterlife onthe new kitkat kernel and supurb speed that you will never get on stock kernel.
I can control any setting I want of my kernel.
If all people have the same attitude as you , root, custom roms , kernels, triangle away,..... would not exist. Buy a Apple is my advice to you then.
My 2 kids got both a Ipad mini and for them it is the best. Easy in use and really closed so they can't mess with a thing.
Oh and I'm not pushing my rom, I clearly say "a" custom rom.
Is this even my time worth ?
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I tried to be polite, but you took some of my explanation to using my poll as a solicitation, a bit personal.
I did praise your work and efforts. I am not knocking in any way your ROM, just making a point for those who are tempted to understand there is a price to pay for using a modded ROM. Maybe I am being a bit protective, but about 50% upgrading to KitKat are finding issues they do not want to deal with. About 33% just jump right in without knowing when there is a lot of info available here to read up on.
Sure, I did not read up on your ROM and Kernel, but I was not interested and did not want to point one thing over another.
I admit your ROM adds some speed improvement, added customization and what not. I consider myself a novice in the Android world, and have managed to figure simple tweaks to make my stock ROM perform better than most custom de-bloated ROMs. Yet the pros seem to have to push 4.4.2 every way possible, for whatever reasoning, personal or not.
The Note 8.0 is not a gaming device, yet peeps think benchmarks are more important than usability. I am just calling it as I see it, 4.4.2 tweaked or not, is not much better than 4.2.2 when properly setup.
Not to point my finger to your ROM customizations, but all non-Samsung stock ROMs in general... Miracast, SD card, and S-pen are the big reasons why I chose Samsung, so they also happen to be propitiatory, many don' t see them as an issue, until they need one or the other to work.
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I tried to be polite, but you took some of my explanation to using my poll as a solicitation, a bit personal.
I did praise your work and efforts. I am not knocking in any way your ROM, just making a point for those who are tempted to understand there is a price to pay for using a modded ROM. Maybe I am being a bit protective, but about 50% upgrading to KitKat are finding issues they do not want to deal with. About 33% just jump right in without knowing when there is a lot of info available here to read up on.
Sure, I did not read up on your ROM and Kernel, but I was not interested and did not want to point one thing over another.
I admit your ROM adds some speed improvement, added customization and what not. I consider myself a novice in the Android world, and have managed to figure simple tweaks to make my stock ROM perform better than most custom de-bloated ROMs. Yet the pros seem to have to push 4.4.2 every way possible, for whatever reasoning, personal or not.
The Note 8.0 is not a gaming device, yet peeps think benchmarks are more important than usability. I am just calling it as I see it, 4.4.2 tweaked or not, is not much better than 4.2.2 when properly setup.
Not to point my finger to your ROM customizations, but all non-Samsung stock ROMs in general... Miracast, SD card, and S-pen are the big reasons why I chose Samsung, so they also happen to be propitiatory, many don' t see them as an issue, until they need one or the other to work.
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I don't want to fuel a debate with this post cause that is not my purpose and is not helpful to anyone. However, just want to say that after reading the last few posts I feel that you are being a bit harsh on civato for posting some useful info. The post specifically states "any kitkat rom" and never mentioned a specific custom rom. This info is obviously aimed to anyone thinking about upgrading which is what this thread is about.
Personally I appreciate any additional info provided, especially from a highly regarded dev/contributor, that could sway my decision either way and/or make things easier. Glad civato took the time to post for the benefit of others. :good:
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Not to point my finger to your ROM customizations, but all non-Samsung stock ROMs in general... Miracast, SD card, and S-penare the big reasons why I chose Samsung, so they also happen to be propitiatory, many don' t see them as an issue, until they need one or the other to work.
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S-pen = Crap on stock kernel, as it is way off. A pen needs to be 100% accurate and not so and so.
Did you take the time to look at text pen cursor, of by 5mm, that is a lot. and that is rom problem. JellyBean and kitkat
Pointer is 3mm to the left (Kernel problem, JellyBean and kitkat) , again that is a lot for me and people that use the pen for what it is made. Else I would bought me a Tablet without the pen support.
The only thing you post that I can agree with is lossing Miracast if you use a custom kernel. I don't have any SDCard problems.
And yes the pen is why I buy samsung Note devices.
It seems that my info is still not clear,
You can TRY kitkat now without the feared KNOX kitkat bootloader. Revert back to JB without any problems.
Sorry for my to offer this to the users.
I think what you are trying to do is make believe that KitKat is crap, or you are trying to convince yourself.
It is well known that most people are afraid of changes.
Why start this poll if you are happy with what you have and not interested in updating. ...the truth is you want to see what the rest are doing and then be deluded that you are doing the correct thing. ..
There can be different uses for different guys and needs are different. .. so don't compare. .. do a back up of your current set up, try different roms and stuff,.... decide for yourself. ... you can always go back to your backup if you don't like anything you tried, ... but frankly, 4.2.2 was buggy and Google quickly updated it to 4.3 for fixing those bugs
Frankly you cannot sit on the beach and wonder how it is to be at sea.... you have to take a boat and sail the sea to know for yourself...
So unless you try the update, how can you come to a conclusion what's best for you?
Chill out and enjoy your way
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me, i already update my note, and super regret it, now, i have stupid knox, inaccuracy spen, nothing new.. so better wait..
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me, i already update my note, and super regret it, now, i have stupid knox, inaccuracy spen, nothing new.. so better wait..
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Try civs rom. .. it's great and fixes all the issues. ..
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kitkat 4.4.2 on note 8.0 has bugs?
After updating to 4.4.2 my note 8.o is acting strange. Some time my home button isn't working. Some time my capacitive buttons aren't touch activated. (Though interestingly its always working with the included stylus!) When the screen is locked the home button doesnt bring the lock screen back. i.e. it remains black even I press the home button!
Any one facing this problem here after kitkat update?
So Im going to root my phone and havent flashed a ROM in a while and was wondering what is the best Google Pixel XL or Google Pixel ROM that is out. Any help is appreciated.
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So Im going to root my phone and havent flashed a ROM in a while and was wondering what is the best Google Pixel XL or Google Pixel ROM that is out. Any help is appreciated.
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PureNexus ROM is really good with battery life and even the stability. Give it a shot and also most of the Google Pixel features are already baked into this ROM. Hope you get what you are excited about
I didn't like Pure Nexus and would have recommended Cortex instead but the last two builds have been buggy--although I think a lot of that has to do with the monthly Google image the rom is built upon since similar image based roms are reporting similar issues--mainly with battery drain. I would have recommended Megapixel instead but that hasn't been updated since December. You might be stuck with Pure Nexus but since it is an Aesop based rom rather than based on the Google monthly image Google Assistant doesn't work properly for some people or stops working properly after a time. One good thing about Cortex is that GA works perfectly. I wish I had a better recommendation for you than Pure Nexus which I think is overrated but I'm still on January build of Cortex because of problems with the February and March builds. Good luck.
I tried pure nexus a couple of times. It's stable, and for me assistant have worked perfect all time.
Somehow I didn't like the Rom as much as megapixel. Cortex is buggy and I don't install it again, I have tried it 3-4 times.
I'm about to try resurrection remix now, worth a look. It comes with pixel launcher also, and having a ton of customisation.
Edit: After trying Resurrection Remix, I quickly removed it and went back to pure nexus.
I can understand that people love RR,I really do.. IF you love customization. Im not that into this stuff.
But for me, it's way too much and simply confusing. Of course, you can use the Rom without using the customisation, but then it loose some of it point I think. Pure nexus would be my number 1 recommendation.
I personally found Pure Nexus to be the most problematic rom I ever installed on any phone I have ever owned. I can't fathom why that rom is so popular. People who post problems to the forums are very frequently running Pure Nexus but always assume that whatever problem they are having has nothing to do with the rom. Unfortunately most of the devs seem to have abandoned ship where the 6P is concerned and there are only a small handful of roms still being updated. If you run Pure Nexus I hope you have a better experience than I did the two times I tried running it but if you start having issues with your phone after you flash it the problem is with the rom. Pure Nexus slowed down my phone compared to stock, caused battery drain compared to stock, caused multiple apps to crash repeatedly--and when I tried to get support all I got was attacked.
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I personally found Pure Nexus to be the most problematic rom I ever installed on any phone I have ever owned. I can't fathom why that rom is so popular. People who post problems to the forums are very frequently running Pure Nexus but always assume that whatever problem they are having has nothing to do with the rom. Unfortunately most of the devs seem to have abandoned ship where the 6P is concerned and there are only a small handful of roms still being updated. If you run Pure Nexus I hope you have a better experience than I did the two times I tried running it but if you start having issues with your phone after you flash it the problem is with the rom. Pure Nexus slowed down my phone compared to stock, caused battery drain compared to stock, caused multiple apps to crash repeatedly--and when I tried to get support all I got was attacked.
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Oh well... I really don't understand what's your point in telling someone that a ROM is so bad and that people who answered you in a ROM thread "attacked" you/your ports... Don't get me wrong, this is not a tribute i'm making here to PureNexus, nor am i trying to persude OP to choose it over another ROM... I see only 4 post from you in PN thread reporting issues. Your 1st post seems to have been ignored... Most likely because people never had such issues?! Also with adaway which i myself never had any issue using it... Here 3 users just answered, telling you they don't have issues with PN + AdAway. I don't see any attack here, do you? Finally you ended with reinstalling stock for testing purpose as kindly suggested by another user. And it seems like you weren't offended in any way since you even added a smile in the end of your post stating it resolved your issue!
Now telling someone a ROM is the worst of all simply because you didn't find your happiness is kind of offending and attacking regarding all the work @BeansTown106 puts in his ROM and for the community. Did you ever read one of the best XDA proverb that say: "logcat or it didn't happen" ? Proper logs are the least you can do when you report issues. Considering you're a member since nearly 2 years with ~ 600 posts, i think you should know that. At least, you could have asked for support from the developer.
Sorry OP, i'm kind of off topic here...
Now on topic... Yeah i do run PureNexus! And i never felt the need to swith to another ROM since. Well... Just because it works well for me doesn't mean it will work well for another user... Although normally it should, just like any other ROM on this forum!
About MegaPixel ROM, the developer's N6P is dead and he's going to upgrade to a Pixel, so no more update
I don't know about other ROMs. But since you only had two opinions, you'd better read through the developers forum and try installing a few ROMs for comparaison purpose. And if you don't like one, you can always switch to another one! At least you'll test by yourself and you'll see if it really suits your needs! :good:
Hey OP I definitely recommend PURE NEXUS or the NITROGEN OS rom.
Nitrogen OS + Flash kernel.
Pure Nexus also has an incredible user base with a ton of folks that help answer questions. I've been a PN user fairy consistently through two nexus phones. I also like Resurrection Remix.
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I personally found Pure Nexus to be the most problematic rom I ever installed on any phone I have ever owned. I can't fathom why that rom is so popular. People who post problems to the forums are very frequently running Pure Nexus but always assume that whatever problem they are having has nothing to do with the rom. Unfortunately most of the devs seem to have abandoned ship where the 6P is concerned and there are only a small handful of roms still being updated. If you run Pure Nexus I hope you have a better experience than I did the two times I tried running it but if you start having issues with your phone after you flash it the problem is with the rom. Pure Nexus slowed down my phone compared to stock, caused battery drain compared to stock, caused multiple apps to crash repeatedly--and when I tried to get support all I got was attacked.
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It sound strange. I have never had one crash and i don't have any battery drain either. In fact, my first cycle gave me over 5 hours sot, and have no wake up or other problem.
RR is as far as i know also a good ROM, but under set process i got serious lag,both times i installed this ROM. But once set up, it runs fine. But for my taste, way to much settings and customisation. If you like all that stuff, RR is maybe the way to go. PN have nice customisation also, but not too much.
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Oh well... I really don't understand what's your point in telling someone that a ROM is so bad and that people who answered you in a ROM thread "attacked" you/your ports... Don't get me wrong, this is not a tribute i'm making here to PureNexus, nor am i trying to persude OP to choose it over another ROM... I see only 4 post from you in PN thread reporting issues. Your 1st post seems to have been ignored... Most likely because people never had such issues?! Also with adaway which i myself never had any issue using it... Here 3 users just answered, telling you they don't have issues with PN + AdAway. I don't see any attack here, do you? Finally you ended with reinstalling stock for testing purpose as kindly suggested by another user. And it seems like you weren't offended in any way since you even added a smile in the end of your post stating it resolved your issue!
Now telling someone a ROM is the worst of all simply because you didn't find your happiness is kind of offending and attacking regarding all the work @BeansTown106 puts in his ROM and for the community. Did you ever read one of the best XDA proverb that say: "logcat or it didn't happen" ? Proper logs are the least you can do when you report issues. Considering you're a member since nearly 2 years with ~ 600 posts, i think you should know that. At least, you could have asked for support from the developer.
Sorry OP, i'm kind of off topic here...
Now on topic... Yeah i do run PureNexus! And i never felt the need to swith to another ROM since. Well... Just because it works well for me doesn't mean it will work well for another user... Although normally it should, just like any other ROM on this forum!
About MegaPixel ROM, the developer's N6P is dead and he's going to upgrade to a Pixel, so no more update
I don't know about other ROMs. But since you only had two opinions, you'd better read through the developers forum and try installing a few ROMs for comparaison purpose. And if you don't like one, you can always switch to another one! At least you'll test by yourself and you'll see if it really suits your needs! :good:
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I tried Pure Nexus two separate times and it was lousy both times. It's a wildly overrated rom. People claim its not buggy yet if you read through the forum people talk about bugs on pretty much every single build of the rom. I've run many roms on many phones and honestly nothing perplexes me as much as the popularity of Pure Nexus.
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I tried Pure Nexus two separate times and it was lousy both times. It's a wildly overrated rom. People claim its not buggy yet if you read through the forum people talk about bugs on pretty much every single build of the rom. I've run many roms on many phones and honestly nothing perplexes me as much as the popularity of Pure Nexus.
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Yeah sure... And yet you don't really know if the ROM is the culprit, since most of the time if not all the time, only one user reports having a specific issue. Of course, without providing any way to reproduce it, nor does he/she provides log for the developers to check. Who is to Blame? The ROM?
Pointing fingers at someone for your own mistakes or lack of common sense is easy. But who cares, it's a lot easier than trying to figure the issue on your own or help the developers to get it fixed.
Cheers, have a nice day... :good:
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I tried Pure Nexus two separate times and it was lousy both times. It's a wildly overrated rom. People claim its not buggy yet if you read through the forum people talk about bugs on pretty much every single build of the rom. I've run many roms on many phones and honestly nothing perplexes me as much as the popularity of Pure Nexus.
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Sounds like it's your problem. If you don't know how to install AdAway, then you're probably not a reliable source for bug reports. Ironically, PN is one of the most (maybe the most) stable custom ROMs for this phone.
Pure Nexus + Franco Kernel = Amazing battery life and stability.
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I personally found Pure Nexus to be the most problematic rom I ever installed on any phone I have ever owned. I can't fathom why that rom is so popular. People who post problems to the forums are very frequently running Pure Nexus but always assume that whatever problem they are having has nothing to do with the rom. Unfortunately most of the devs seem to have abandoned ship where the 6P is concerned and there are only a small handful of roms still being updated. If you run Pure Nexus I hope you have a better experience than I did the two times I tried running it but if you start having issues with your phone after you flash it the problem is with the rom. Pure Nexus slowed down my phone compared to stock, caused battery drain compared to stock, caused multiple apps to crash repeatedly--and when I tried to get support all I got was attacked.
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Lol , dang you should have known the self appointed Guardians of Devs (I think they are from middle Earth) , would find you, even in some random thread, these dudes can seek out an opportunity like an eagle spotting a mouse from the air.
Don't worry I'll drink an extra brew for you.
Give a try to Six ROM, is a Pixel themed rom and it runs smooth as it can be. Also battery life is good.
I would recommend Cortex but only if you also flash The Flash's kernel. On the stock kernel there are problems with battery drain. With Flash kernel Cortex is as smooth and bug free as any custom ROM I have ever run and it gives you a nice Pixel experience.