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sorry for the newb questions but couldn't find an answer searching and figured someone who knows would be able to give an answer easily
the question is, when in the office, sitting near my laptop (dell lat 620 w wifi) I connect my phone to the wifi network 'wfield1' and the display on the laptop turns green, and the phone shows the little antenna signifying wifi connectivity. ok- now does this mean
a) that all data sent/rec'd will not appear on cingulars bill?
b) will my works firewall (vpn) infringe upon my browsing (ie if I hit a blocked site will it say blocked on my phone?)
I originally thought it would but I turned wifi on and walked away from my laptop and realized that the wifi connection stayed on throughout the building so therefore it has nothing to do with my laptops connection to our vpn server then right?
if so, c) would I be able to use the phones wifi connection and then usb tether the phone to the laptop to browse on the laptop off the firewall and off cingulars rate charges? I have unlim anyway but keeping usage down seems worth the small step it takes to tether
hopefully I am at least a little accurate in my guesses and not way off wack. if anyone could drop some knowledge on me id appreciate it
Your phone's connection to WIFI has nothing to do with your laptop. It should connect to your WIFI router in your office. Your phone should display a different symbol on the top line of the LCD, rather than your regular "antenna" symbol.
You need to check the above before you can confirm if you are actually connected to your WIFI router.
When you are on WIFI, it is subjected to the same firewall regulations as your laptop
yes it changes from the normal "phone" antenna to the wifi icon, i do know that much.
however i'm still unsure of whether or not it is using routered data vs cingular data. i think it is using the wifi data because as i said it is showing the wifi symbol and not the E or G that shows up when connected to cingulars service
and i think i mispoke, i dont actually use the wifi on the laptop to connect to the internet. i need to dial up with a verizon card, and it connects that way, and also launches a VPN which i think is what regulates the internet usage.
i am less worried about the routers firewall than i am my (proxy?) servers abilty to record sights that i visit, ie the forums/ebay. if i visit those on wifi and my server could see that (not worried about the wifi router seeing it since i am in different offices a lot), i will just stick with using GPRS/EDGE. confusing? sorry
If it was using Cingular data, you would get a message that your phone is 'Connecting to Cingular GPRS' ..in which case you would be billed, you don't get billed for using wifi because you are NOT using cingulars network to connect to the internet, you are using your own.
after checking it again, it seems that i cannot get to the iinternet with the wifi alone. i turned off the phone and had wifi enabled and could not connet to the internet.
so normally, if it wasn't a work firewalled network, wifi will let you get to the internet without being charged via cingular. got it, thanks all
hey i was going to do wifi connection to my work laptop too till i decided its pointless cause im sitting right in front of the thing and if i actually walked away from it its going to be a decent distance and the wifi wouldnt connect anyway.
besides theres not a whole lot you can do with the connection other than read a web page or browse a network folder.
I have a Sprint Mogul and basically hate it because it's slow and poorly designed. So I switched to the Treo 700wx and like it a lot better (or at least as much as anyone can really "like" Windows Mobile).
Rant aside, I have the Mogul still and have been trying to set it to simply access the net via WiFi, but it just is showing me no love. I can see and connect to my access point fine (just as I could back when I did have a cell plan for it). But when I try to hit a page with PIE, it tries to connect to the Sprint network. I've tried deleting the Sprint connection out of the network settings as well as unchecking the "This network connects to the internet" box. But it doesn't prevent it from trying to connect to the cell towers instead of just using the WiFi.
Ideas?
Ensure you have the Wireless connection pointing to "The Internet". You should also run a ping test and ensure your router is handing out an IP via DHCP properly.
Taco Jackson said:
I have a Sprint Mogul and basically hate it because it's slow and poorly designed. So I switched to the Treo 700wx and like it a lot better (or at least as much as anyone can really "like" Windows Mobile).
Rant aside, I have the Mogul still and have been trying to set it to simply access the net via WiFi, but it just is showing me no love. I can see and connect to my access point fine (just as I could back when I did have a cell plan for it). But when I try to hit a page with PIE, it tries to connect to the Sprint network. I've tried deleting the Sprint connection out of the network settings as well as unchecking the "This network connects to the internet" box. But it doesn't prevent it from trying to connect to the cell towers instead of just using the WiFi.
Ideas?
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Frankly the phone is not really going to be appreciated (as it can be) by more basic PC user. Sounds like you want a more (pardon the expression) dumbed down version of PPC.
Instead of turning on wireless and then looking at available AP's... go into start/settings/connections tab/WiFi and try connecting from there... I noticed it to work better from there.
BTW... if you really start hating that thing... let me know and I will send you a pre-paid shipping box
veloslave said:
Frankly the phone is not really going to be appreciated (as it can be) by more basic PC user. Sounds like you want a more (pardon the expression) dumbed down version of PPC.
Instead of turning on wireless and then looking at available AP's... go into start/settings/connections tab/WiFi and try connecting from there... I noticed it to work better from there.
BTW... if you really start hating that thing... let me know and I will send you a pre-paid shipping box
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..and if you happen to forget to send the box... I'm right behind you and will happily take his poorly designed and slow Mogul.
How do you get online on your X1?
I use WiFi connectivity.
I use wifi pretty rarely (even though its available at home and in the office) ...have an unlimited data plan so its 3G/HSDPA all the way for me
Can I suggest a POLL format for this thread?
Would allow people to click their response, and you to see & track proportions (and the rest of us interested parties too!)
Data plan only (3G/HSDPA/GPRS)
WIFI only
Mix of data plan & WIFI
Neither / Only use data rarely
Haha, I did post a poll but it didn't show up. I'll try it again.
i have unlimited data and wifi hot spots with my tarrif but as yet havent used a hot spot lol i use use the data tho its abit slow as 3g coverage is poor where i live
I put 3G and Wifi
Most of the time I'm using HSDPA, but do sometimes drop back to EDGE.
Wi-Fi only ftw !!!!!!!!!! Wi-Fi is basically available anywhere these days. Why bother paying for something you could get for free? I get that there are situations like emergencies and the like, but still, free of charge forever.
P.S. When I saw that poll I was like:
http://www.humorhound.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/omg-wtf-cat-rubiks-cube.jpg
Bump, I want to see more votes and opinions.
How do i know if im using edge or 3g?
comeradealexi said:
How do i know if im using edge or 3g?
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I heard that if your 3G Connection drops you use EDGE for free.
I also heard that you can also order an EDGE data plan but you are blocked from 3G Data plan.
But someone should clarify this for me.
poetryrocksalot said:
I heard that if your 3G Connection drops you use EDGE for free.
I also heard that you can also order an EDGE data plan but you are blocked from 3G Data plan.
But someone should clarify this for me.
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Depends on the country/carrier.
But i've only seen the 3G icon about twice :S
Unlimited AT&T 3G/HSPDA ($15/month) plus WI-FI where available, mostly at home.
Does anybody know how to disable automatic internet connecting?
I mean, when i don't want anything from the internet, X1 is always trying' to connect to the internet. where is that option like: "disable automatic connecting" or somethink like that... it drives me crazy....
maric04 said:
Does anybody know how to disable automatic internet connecting?
I mean, when i don't want anything from the internet, X1 is always trying' to connect to the internet. where is that option like: "disable automatic connecting" or somethink like that... it drives me crazy....
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Start Menu > Settings > Connections > Connections > manage existing connections > tap and hold all the connections you see > tap on delete.
Done...if you can't do this...shame on society
Now you can use Wi-Fi without worrying about accidental 3G or media.net or EDGE access.
I sometimes use active sync, but if it's plugged into my laptop, there's not much of need for me to use internet on the X1.
I sometimes use WiFi at home and work, but the same thing - I can use my laptop or PC for the net, don't need it on the X1 much.
I have a data plan, but live in a roaming area, so limit my carrier usage around here. The signal isn't the best and the phone changes between 3G & EDGE automatically. When I head to the city it's HSDPA
Hi,
I live in Australia. I bought a SGS from UK. It has nothing changed in firmware its the same as it comes from the box. (just a few games and apps installed from the android market).
My problem is when I connect the SGS to my laptop through the USB cable and I chose "PC INTERNET" I get a connection but i get a lot of drop outs, I would say being honestly every 5 minutes my connection drops. I live right in the city and my phone has good reception so its not the reception.
I haven't tried teethering (i dont wanna teether coz mobile plans says, NO teethering).
What can I do to fix the drop out connection problem.
if you are using your internet via the LAPTOP over the USB cable, then you need to figure out WHY your LAPTOP is not connecting properly to the Internet.
it takes about 1 min to connect and when it connects i choose HOME connetion. than it works good for 5 mins and it drops out and reconnects itself.
Correct me if I've read your post incorrectly but isn't what you're doing tethering?
From Wikipedia: "Tethering is the use of a mobile device such as a mobile phone to supply Internet access for another device which is otherwise unconnected, using the mobile device as a modem. This can be done through Bluetooth wireless technology, Portable Wi-Fi hotspots, or cables (such as USB)."
well yes and no...
it is teethering but carriers cant prove that.
however
if i do select teether on my phone it says something like this option will use black hole date or something (from my understanding is that it will use different data to my free date) so i choose to try the cable connect than select interent connection.
anyways the problem is still there... has anyone got any solutions or give me some ideas?
thanks
are you trying to use your phone as a modem or not?
if you are, then we can help you there are many ways to do it.
but if you are doing the opposite, using your laptop internet, for your phone to access internet (which doesn't make any sense at all) then we can't help you as it's a laptop problem.
im trying to use my phone as a modem but in a way without carriers finding out im actually using my phone to teether.
my problem is that my connection keeps droping every 5 minutes for 10-30sec.
I use my Galaxy as a modem and I had nothing but hassle when connecting using the cable. I found out its far better to go into settings then wireless settings then switch mobile AP on. Your phone sends the connection over wifi to the pc and gives me no hassle at all.
I reckon the only way your service provider would know is by looking at how much data you use so just be careful and you should be fine. Or find out what your monthly limit is and put a data counter on the phone, I use Netcounter, its free and simple but gives the info you need like daily, weekly and monthly usage
yup, the wireless method is by far the easiest one, and best of all it is build in!
as for your cell phone provider finding out, regardless of what you do, they don't care, they only check how much data you used up, and charge you that amount
well im on 1gb per month. Plenty of data there.
I tried another method today: turn bluetooth on and connect through bluetooth and that seem to works perfectly. I was online for 3 hours without dropping once.
Now I`m wondering why was it dropping with the cable connected? And not even once through bluetooth!
I understand your Problem, but at time i reading your last Post i have an question.
I understand your Posts that you dont use Wireless thether becouse your Carrier dont Allow Laptops to Acces Wireless conections right?
But it makes no difference if you use the cable or a wireless conection to thether your Internet. If you surf under the radar you dont getting into troubles. And there is no blackhole Data when you tether wireless. Its a gprs, edeg, 3g or umts Connection and your Phone manage this automaticly. So now comes my question. Why you dont use the build in wireless tether function which is the fastest and easiest way to connect. You dont need the phone directly near the laptop, you can give it to the point of best data connection, okay and a powerstrip for the akku. But its much faster then the Bluetooth connection, becouse of wlan.
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"And there is no blackhole Data when you teether wireless"
From now on I will use the AP to connect. I thought the carriers (OPTUS) might find out. But since they can't find out than this is the best option. Thanks for confirming they cant find out weather I connected my laptop or just used the date from my phone.
This remind my at the old days where you share your internet connection thru a soho rooter or just another pc with 2 network cards built in. In these early days the Provider says its forbidden to use the connection for more pcs than one. But in fact they never could meassure this and no one ever gets an letter from them or an contract decline/service interuption. The truth is, that there was a kind of law process against them and now the isp's is forbidden to limit the usage of your internet connection to only one device. So that means not that you get unlimited numbers of ip adresses, but you can NAT as much devices you want. Now you get from every ISP a Preconfigured router if you like.
And the same will hapen over a pariod of time to the wireless providers as well. Its your connection so you can use them the way u like it. Its already happend here, you can buy umts router for your home.
Where i live there is no question like this. Just do it. But maybe its becouse of our mentalogiy. If somone says no the typical austrian will do it anyway and gives no dime to what others say. If no one forbid you something then its allready allowed to do. ;-)
Greetings to Australia (the country with the kangaroos) like we here in Austria say. lol
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Thanks for that info. That takes my concerns/stress away. Just didn't wanna receive a thousand dollar bill that's all I cared
All wireless are bad.
I often lose my wifi connection in my home. And often I even need to restart wifi.
The Bluetooth connection is bad with my car. I need to find the good position to have correct sound on the speakers.
My gprs data connection is often bad. And even if I have good phone connection.
I compare with my old HTC hd
I am really hesitating to send it back to my operator.
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I dont have any of these problems, its batter to get it back and take another one since its still under warranty.
Does anyone else have issues with low wireless signal and constant dropping wireless connections?
I have a friend here are work in the same area, he has an Iphone 4 and has no issues.
LT15a arc
To be honest I never had such issues.
no problem here either - only issue I've got is Green Power free doesn't always open up the wireless connections properly when I unlock the phone and I have to stop GPF to make it work.. but the phone itself is as good as my x10 was and better then my wifes HTC legend..
Yeah my wifi is rubbish. Disconnects each time i try to download something that is a little "big" from the marked or read web pages. It's annoying as hell but it seems like the next update from SE will have a new baseband. Hoping that will fix it else it's going back!
Yeah, hopefully the next update does fix this issue. It is more stable on my home network, but still drops out occasionally.
Yes, I just this Rogers phone today. I have the same problem or even worse. as soon as I open something that's a little big from any online apps or webpage, it disconnects wifi. but it still shows wifi connection on the top. Worse thing is, it seems to crash my router as well then disconnect my whole home network. I have been using my router for more than two years and it never had any problems. (I game and p2p a lot on my ps3 and pc). I have iphone4 wireless hooked up with my router as well and it works flawelessly when open up the same webpage which causes wifi disconnect on my arc.
I am thinking about returning this phone and get nexus s if they can't get it fixed soon....
I used to have problems with the WIFI untill I unlocked the bootloader and rooted it, now its perfect. But it depends if you decide to take the risk or not.
i had no problem with home wi-fi but come to broardband data simcard its terrible slow, assume telco matter but put that sim to OS6 device its run ok
The speed and connection of my arc is quite well.
The only problem of my arc is the time it takes until connection is established.
When i release the screenlock it sometimes takes up to 30 seconds until the WiFi symbol appears and the connection is established
download from market app wi-fi keep alive, it will solve your problems for sure, i had this issue too
wifi weaker than x1 (and to think that x1 wifi were pathetic), data on gprs/3g a lot better but it's Android thingy. most errors come from carrier in my experience.