camera lens and flash should be on the bottom half - Galaxy Note II General

Think about it, when you map the volume up button as shutter, and hold the phone, your hand is blocking the camera lens!
Why are phone designers so stupid?

FinancialWar said:
Think about it, when you map the volume up button as shutter, and hold the phone, your hand is blocking the camera lens!
Why are phone designers so stupid?
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"You are holding it wrong" (Steve Jobs)
Your middle fingers and thumbs should cover every corner (thumbs, down corners; mid fingers, the upper corners) and the rest of your fingers whould open like wings. Index ones are free to touch necessary parts of the screen. Volume buttons are not meant to be the shutter buttons. Shutter button is on the screen and gently touching the screen is less shaky than touching an actual button for 1mm..

There are a huge number of people that take photos and video in portrait, as wrong as it may be, usually one handed. Putting the camera on the bottom will just result in blocked pictures. I suppose the designers aren't so 'stupid' after all.

FinancialWar said:
Think about it, when you map the volume up button as shutter, and hold the phone, your hand is blocking the camera lens!
Why are phone designers so stupid?
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So what about on screen shutter button? You can't use that because if you hold the phone with any hand, you'll block the camera. So you want to rotate phone upside down whenever you want to take a portrait photo? Just think about it :laugh:
So, this is called user experience designing. Designers will use the design which is easy for most of the people. And as the above person told volume buttons are never meant to be shutter keys. We are mapping them as per our convenience . Rather than that, a dedicated shutter key is more helpful.

I don't remember ever having a problem holding a camera phone. :-/
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don't be a noob.

FinancialWar said:
Think about it, when you map the volume up button as shutter, and hold the phone, your hand is blocking the camera lens!
Why are phone designers so stupid?
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Someone's stupid, yes, but it's not the phone designers.

Your tripping too hard bro xD
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Think about it, when you map your home button to the volume up button, you can't get to home with your right thumb! Stupid phone designers!
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I doubt the position of the camera is high on their list of priorities when engineering the phone's hardware. I haven't mapped any hard keys to control the camera, but when I haven't used it for a while I do initially find my fingers getting in the way, so perhaps a more central location (similar to a standalone digital camera) would be better. However, if it meant compromising the phone in any other way* then I'm glad they put it where it is.
*except NFC, which I never wanted.
Notice people you don't need to insult the op to disagree with him. This isn't a playground, stop behaving like infants.
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Actually, it would be as high on the list as any other components. With limited space, they're quite constrained as to where they put things and there's little chance they'd be able to place the camera hardware in an area that's already got a circuit board for the capacitive buttons.

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Major design flaws

Placement of power button is really a major design flaw, you need two hands to turn on your phone, this is ridiculous, I can turn on even my lawnmower with one hand. The reset button hidden under battery cover, hey, it's running windows, reset button is one of most important buttons. If I need to remove battery cover I can reset my phone by just removing battery as well. I don't need that button anyway. No camera button, how I'm supposed to take autoportrait? And again you need two hands to take a picture. Volume buttons on side are too big, I press them accidentally all the time so I end up in silent mode and don't hear incoming calls or SMS. What was wrong with sliding volume button on original Touch? Light sensor is great idea, however it doesn't recognize light in my room from pitch black, it has the same value (zero) so I can have minimum backlight and see nothing or I can have medium backlight and blind my eyes when I pickup my phone at midnight. You can't use this cellphone lying on table, because it wobbles because of that that camera protector. I'm talking just about HW issues so far. The are infinite software issues, but software can be tuned. HW will stay like that, HTC Touch HD is just a one huge design fault. I have been using HTC Touch (Elf) before. I have been looking forward to buy this phone since HTC announced it. I didn't expect I will get for my money this piece of ****ing ****. Excuse me.
I know how you feel. you know, I never learn. When the Omnia was announced I bought it. Was disappointed and sent it back. Then.. WOW! the HD looks cool! Bought it for £500! I've just arranged for it to be returned. Quite a disappointment all round really. Design as you say isn't great, its heavy too for its size. Not may apps run on it including TT5. Its no upgrade from the Diamond in my opinion, well not £500s worth.
I put my sim in my diamond again today and thoughthis is better, and looks better. Bye Bye HD. All I need for my diamond is a better battery, £50 done.
Also that paint chipping malarky isn't good is it? Now.. I just need to learn my lessons and stop being such a geek! My Girlfriend told everyone I'd shelled out £500 for a phone. They think i'm 'kin mad! I agree
Not may apps run on it including TT5. ...
C'mon - I doubt even WM5 was out when that was released.
you need two hands to turn on your phone, this is ridiculous...
No it doesn't. i anyway can easily turn it on one-handed.
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Placement of power button is really a major design flaw, you need two hands to turn on your phone, this is ridiculous, I can turn on even my lawnmower with one hand.
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Indeed this is an ultimate example of stupidity. Funny how nobody complained about the same thing done by Apple though in Jesus Phone. It's just equally annoying there.
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The reset button hidden under battery cover, hey, it's running windows, reset button is one of most important buttons.
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Couldn't care less where the reset button is, frankly. Unlike you, I'm not a big fan of pressing it, on Windows or not, so don't use it often enough to be bothered.
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No camera button, how I'm supposed to take autoportrait?
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Yes, if you want to delete it right away - this is not a camera, this is an extreme piece of garbage. Maybe HTC device users are used to this I don't know. But I was simply shocked. It's so slow that it's simply impossible to capture anything that moves faster than continents are drifting.
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I didn't expect I will get for my money this piece of ****ing ****. Excuse me.
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Come on, they just don't make good phones, admit it. Any phone has tons of stupidities. There's no other choice but to accept the least of the evils out there. Somehow making excellent things just doesn't seem an attractive business model anymore. It's just so much easier to stick a stupid 3.5mm jack for headphones with no data capability for a remote control (people will buy this no matter it's less convenient in practice than extUSB Audio, if you think about it for a moment), and make a camera with a bigger megapixel count that a competitor has.
But I digress...
No camera button, how I'm supposed to take autoportrait?
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Uhhhh, how about using the front-facing camera, duh....
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Somehow making excellent things just doesn't seem an attractive business model anymore.
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Camera with bigger mega pixels and ever crappier plastic lens just annoys the hell out of me, but unfortunately they get away with this; because the majority of people are stupid (or ignorant, or whatever.)
Being less harsh..... I suppose in the grand scheme of things all this technology is new, once the expectation & experience of the general public catches up, finally we will see better devices.
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Camera with bigger mega pixels and ever crappier plastic lens just annoys the hell out of me, but unfortunately they get away with this; because the majority of people are stupid (or ignorant, or whatever.)
Being less harsh..... I suppose in the grand scheme of things all this technology is new, once the expectation & experience of the general public catches up, finally we will see better devices.
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Lol! Buying a Touch HD and expecting it to be good enough to replace your regular digi is stupid (or ignorant, or whatever.)
Seems to me that people forget that this is a cell phone first...it's not a digital camera with a phone feature.
yeah there are design flaws as there are for all phones
i have small hands and i can turn it one handed so i'm not sure whats wrong with your hands...
yes the reset button is poorly placed as is the volume rocker and having no dedicated camera button is weird as well.
in saying that the main fetaure of the hd over others is the screen size and display resolution.
there is no 'perfect' device, if there ever was then they'd have no room to make future stuff.
I'm pissed with the poor camera and lack of flash and it really wouldnt surprise me whetehr they release a simialr version within the next 6-12 months with these fetaures. but if they had everything we wnated this time, why would we buy the next model?
Nothing is perfect, every fone gonna have some flaws, because every1 thinks differently, and the phone are made up of only a group of ppl, so there bound to be ppl who think its ****.
So tell me a fone you think that's you think's good, then i'll tell you the "fking ****" out of it?
Major Usage flaws
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Man, I am trying really hard not to laugh ... or curse at you.
Placement of power button is really a major design flaw, you need two hands to turn on your phone, this is ridiculous, I can turn on even my lawnmower with one hand.
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Funny how millions of iphone (same location of power button) users and hundreds of HD users never complained about this problem. may be you need to examine if you are holding the phone correctly. I can turn on the phone with my either hand, my teenage children can turn on the phone with either of their small hands.. my judo coach can turn it on with either of his giant paws. so unless you have 4 fingers on each hand, i am baffled at your complaint.
The reset button hidden under battery cover, hey, it's running windows, reset button is one of most important buttons. If I need to remove battery cover I can reset my phone by just removing battery as well. I don't need that button anyway.
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This is highly depended on what kind of junk you install on your phone, i never had to use my reset button since I got my phone 3 weeks ago.
No camera button, how I'm supposed to take autoportrait? And again you need two hands to take a picture.
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first of all wtf is "autoportrait"? you mean portrait picture? or self-portrait? or auto focus? I haven't heard of one camera that can "autoportrait" a picture for me. Secondly, I take pix on HD with one hand, landscape or portrait. the friends to whom I showed my phone to for the first time snapped pix one-handed. You are like an old grandma who doesn't want to change the way you do stuff because you are used to your thumb being the "holder" and index finger being the "trigger". if you need help, i'll be mroe than happy to take a pic of how me and my friends operate this phone with one hand.
Volume buttons on side are too big, I press them accidentally all the time so I end up in silent mode and don't hear incoming calls or SMS. What was wrong with sliding volume button on original Touch?
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irritating yes, major flaw no! DeviceLock, S2U2, PocketShield, etc etc.. all provide customized lock function that will lock hardware keys. Gosh, since you are so lazy, here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449744
Light sensor is great idea, however it doesn't recognize light in my room from pitch black, it has the same value (zero) so I can have minimum backlight and see nothing or I can have medium backlight and blind my eyes when I pickup my phone at midnight.
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If you are not using any third party software to adjust the light, then yes, the screen tend to be brighter than it should. but it definitely never came to a point in any condition where the backlight is off and i can "see nothing". If you are using a third party software, then it's your own laziness that needs help so you can adjust the software's settings to best suite your enviroment. I use G-Light and it is working wonderfully.
You can't use this cellphone lying on table, because it wobbles because of that that camera protector.
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LOL, I dont even know where to begin for this one. Should I tell you to get a regular home/landline phone because you are using a cell phone on a table? or should I ask why do you care the phone wobbles if you are setting it on the table, because your attention must be somewhere else, and busy doing something else with your two hands in the meanwhile, after all that should be the reason you set the phone down in the first place no? Honestly, if your are doing something else with your two hands, and the phone is on the desk, it just wobbles on it own?!?! Or are you telling us that you get a kick out of setting a cell phone on the table and talk, while poking it with one hand to enjoy or dislike its wobbliness??
I'm talking just about HW issues so far. The are infinite software issues, but software can be tuned. HW will stay like that, HTC Touch HD is just a one huge design fault. I have been using HTC Touch (Elf) before.
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Clearly, with the way you are using your cell phone, there are many other complaints to be logged. I am looking forward for more great laughs.
......this piece of ****ing ****.
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This line is the reason for the tone of my response. if you have a problem or need help adjusting, ask, and we'll help you. if you have something valuable to share, type it down, and we will thank you. Coming here to rant just because you are not doing things right.. well.... thanks for the laugh.. again.
Excuse me.
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You are excused.
I find it perfectly easy to turn the phone off one handed. I haven't had cause to use the reset button yet so who cares where it is. Not to mention that you don't want it in too convenient a location lest it is pressed by accident! The movement of the device while on a flat surface is minimal. Admittedly the fact that the volume buttons don't lock is annoying but something I am sure can be solved with software. The lack of a camera button is a minor irritant although accidentally pushing the button and activating the camera on my Trinity was also slightly irritating.
I would suggest that your list of "Major Flaws" hardly adds up to a minor irritant and if you are so frustrated by such small things then I doubt you are ever content. Nothing is perfect, to expect such is foolish and will only ever end in disappointment...
You can reset the device by taking the back cover off but you can also reset by holding down the power button for a few seconds
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Funny how millions of iphone (same location of power button) users and hundreds of HD users never complained about this problem. may be you need to examine if you are holding the phone correctly. I can turn on the phone with my either hand, my teenage children can turn on the phone with either of their small hands.. my judo coach can turn it on with either of his giant paws. so unless you have 4 fingers on each hand, i am baffled at your complaint.
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They did not complain because they don't know they could have better. Yes I can turn it on with either hand also, but it is very inconvenient. If you think this button is well placed, then you must have both hands left.
buggybug0 said:
This is highly depended on what kind of junk you install on your phone, i never had to use my reset button since I got my phone 3 weeks ago.
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If you are doing experiments you just have to
buggybug0 said:
irritating yes, major flaw no! DeviceLock, S2U2, PocketShield, etc etc.. all provide customized lock function that will lock hardware keys. Gosh, since you are so lazy, here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449744
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Yeah right, if it is not design flaw why should I ever use any third party sw to disable it? If you have to find a way how to deal with it it mean it's flawed, period. Volume button on Elf was just fine no need to bother how to disable it.
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If you are not using any third party software to adjust the light, then yes, the screen tend to be brighter than it should. but it definitely never came to a point in any condition where the backlight is off and i can "see nothing". If you are using a third party software, then it's your own laziness that needs help so you can adjust the software's settings to best suite your enviroment. I use G-Light and it is working wonderfully.
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It has flawed hw, no software will help you, as I said light sensor is not sensitive enough to see difference between normal lighting condition in my room and pitch black, so everything in between is the same. So you cannot set different backlight for normal room and dark night.
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LOL, I dont even know where to begin for this one.
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Just place your phone on table and try to hit [X] button. that's it.
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You can reset the device by taking the back cover off but you can also reset by holding down the power button for a few seconds
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power button won't help you in certain situations.
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Yeah right, if it is not design flaw why should I ever use any third party sw to disable it? If you have to find a way how to deal with it it mean it's flawed, period. Volume button on Elf was just fine no need to bother how to disable it.
It has flawed hw, no software will help you, as I said light sensor is not sensitive enough to see difference between normal lighting condition in my room and pitch black, so everything in between is the same. So you cannot set different backlight for normal room and dark night.
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You dont need third party software, a small dll edit sorts it out and some people want to be able to adjust the volume while the device is locked so they can easily change music volume.
The light sensor is suprisingly sensitive. Do as instructed, install G-Light and all your backlight woes will melt away
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You dont need third party software, a small dll edit sorts it out and some people want to be able to adjust the volume while the device is locked so they can easily change music volume.
The light sensor is suprisingly sensitive. Do as instructed, install G-Light and all your backlight woes will melt away
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Light sensor is not sensitive enough, I installed GLight, thats how I found out.
The thing that I dont like with HD is .... current TouchFlo 3D.
HD has 3.8" screen, great 800x480 resolution ... but that TF3D Today screen is just waste of space because it can only display 2 appointments.
To make it worse, I cannot install Today plugin there.
Oh yeah, I can disable and use other Today application like the old HTC Home, SecondToday or SpB Mobile Shell ...
You right, but that's not the point ... HTC should have done it right to incorporate the new hardware ... the big screen with its software, user interface, and such.
Another one, why the contact photo tab could not have "tiled" (arrange to grid) photo arrangement? I hate scrolling just to find the correct contact photo. The contact photo in Manilla is better.
Another one, why the image viewer could not operate in full screen? Yes, I know, the sliding flow animation is nice for showing off .... but to have option for full screen is much better.
So, thanks to current economic crisis, I decided to wait for the next iteration.
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The thing that I dont like with HD is .... current TouchFlo 3D.
HD has 3.8" screen, great 800x480 resolution ... but that TF3D Today screen is just waste of space because it can only display 2 appointments.
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as much as we dont like the tf3d, we have to realize, htc gave this to us for free. other companies, charge for such a program, spb mobile shell, etc.
secondly, even you agreeed this is a beautiful phone, so htc did a great job. software wise, ms mobile is bad. even worse, ms didn't open their platform, so htc can't implement this "touch " shell deeper into the OS. given their fortay is in the hardware, and this giiant obstacle, i say they did an admirable job.
as for the appointmments, using advanced config tool, i can seethe appointments of the next two days. give it a try.
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Another one, why the image viewer could not operate in full screen? Yes, I know, the sliding flow animation is nice for showing off .... but to have option for full screen is much better.
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What do you mean by that? Go to Album, see the thumbnails, tap on a picture and voila - you have it in full screen.

something loose

Hello.
Does any of yours hd2s make weird sound when you tap on them? Like there's something loose in the upper end of the device.. I guess it has something to do with back speaker.. It makes the sound even when I put it on the table.. It's nothing serious, but it makes me wonder what is wrong with it It's like piece of plastic hit another piece of plastic.. :s
Only bottom hardware keys are a bit loose, and that applies for all units. But other than that, all should be nice and firm, no sounds.
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Nope, only the sound of my ninja quick fingers tapp'in that screen. Sounds like you do actually havee something loose in your device. : /
it's not like when i just use the touchscreen, but when i tap it with my fingers around the area where camera is.. on the backside.
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it's not like when i just use the touchscreen, but when i tap it with my fingers around the area where camera is.. on the backside.
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I get it too, but it's so slight that I imagine it's just the shutter. It's not rattling round or anything - just loose enough to be able to move when needed.
exactly. thanks =)
Nope, i just almost had my whole face down to listen carefully, but mine makes no loose sound in any way.. strange.. in a good way tho..
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Nope, i just almost had my whole face down to listen carefully, but mine makes no loose sound in any way.. strange.. in a good way tho..
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Your shutter must be fused. I'd send it back to HTC for repair lol
The volume key on the side moves slightly and so do the buttons on the front, it's probably these which rattle from time to time.
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The volume key on the side moves slightly and so do the buttons on the front, it's probably these which rattle from time to time.
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The volume keys on mine are rock solid, and I can only move my hardware buttons by actually touching them and moving them - they don't move enough to rattle.
I agree with the OP - there's a really tiny (insignificant) rattle from around the camera area. Like I said earlier, I don't think it's anything wrong or worth worrying about.
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The volume keys on mine are rock solid, and I can only move my hardware buttons by actually touching them and moving them - they don't move enough to rattle.
I agree with the OP - there's a really tiny (insignificant) rattle from around the camera area. Like I said earlier, I don't think it's anything wrong or worth worrying about.
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There is a varying build quality to these handsets. You sound to be one of the lucky ones but I've had two now and one had a loose volume button, as does my mate's. The depth of the recess with the screen fit and the front keypad wobble and how tactile the keypress is also vary in quality.
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There is a varying build quality to these handsets. You sound to be one of the lucky ones but I've had two now and one had a loose volume button, as does my mate's. The depth of the recess with the screen fit and the front keypad wobble and how tactile the keypress is also vary in quality.
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Yeah - I should have made it clear that I wasn't saying those issues don't exist, but that they don't for me, but I get what the OP is getting at.

Home button lost the new click feeling :(

After using my note for a little over half a month now, it's lost that new click feeling in the home button. And I didn't even use it that much. For those of you coming from the S2, how long did your buttons last. Do I have to be worried that my buttons will wear out?
I have the same problem on note and I had a SGS2 for half year, doesn't have this problem
it's almost the same as with displays: it's a lottery what you get!
as i wrote in other threads i had quite a few notes in my hands, and also concerning the buttons they were different. it depends on how the "mother pcb" is placed, or better phrased: misplaced
on some devices the power button protrudes more (pcb right), on other ones the volume buttons (pcb left)! the lesser protruding buttons tend to "go dull" after a few (hundred) times of operation!
same deviations for the home button: some are ok, some not (and will tend to "loose their original feeling")!
if it bothers you much: go for a replacement!
As I said in a post I made earlier, my button has function has significantly declined. The initial click doesn't even work anymore, I have to press further and much harder for the phone to recognize a press.
I use "virtual button bar" to emulate home button and others.
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Yeah I use soft keys too. But didn't know they would get worn down this quickly
Have had my Note for a month and a half and I have had no issues with the home button. I use it often to wake up the phone and to return home lol. I guess it is all really the luck of the draw.
Less than a week and mine feels feeble.
I've had my note since launch and mine still feels as solid and manly as it ever did
Edit: Mine is german
Same here. Got my Note in the beginning of december, and my button is clicking like a mad man.
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it's almost the same as with displays: it's a lottery what you get!
as i wrote in other threads i had quite a few notes in my hands, and also concerning the buttons they were different. it depends on how the "mother pcb" is placed, or better phrased: misplaced
on some devices the power button protrudes more (pcb right), on other ones the volume buttons (pcb left)! the lesser protruding buttons tend to "go dull" after a few (hundred) times of operation!
same deviations for the home button: some are ok, some not (and will tend to "loose their original feeling")!
if it bothers you much: go for a replacement!
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I would like to know why so much quality difference between SII and Note. Another production factory? New staff? Whatever it is it is not good for their image.
after almost a month of use , i noticed the same thing. But then it got better and now it seems to work fine for almost 2 months now
its a shame we didnt get the yanks version with the 4 touch buttons along the bottom

Honor 9 Announced

Personally, I don't think there's enough changes to upgrade from the Honor 8, but I really want to see that gray color in person! Other than that, the fingerprint reader on the front seems like a step backwards in functionality. The rear button on our Honor 8 is programmable and so useful because of it.
Thoughts?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-Honor-9-is-official-high-end-specs-at-a-reasonable-price_id94916
Same phone but with the finger print sensor at the front. Shame about that.. and as you say, prob not programmable.
I'm sure it's programmable, it's one of their features of EMUI. Front FPS is nice because you can wake it up and unlock while it's laying flat on a desk, you can't do that with a back FPS. If they offer a big sale up front for pre-orders in the US, I might consider it.
Hope HUAWEI can improve EMUI to be more useable... Now I feel that EMUI is more and more like the old Samsung TouchWiz...
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I'm sure it's programmable, it's one of their features of EMUI. Front FPS is nice because you can wake it up and unlock while it's laying flat on a desk, you can't do that with a back FPS. If they offer a big sale up front for pre-orders in the US, I might consider it.
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It's a copy of the P10 and it does not have a programable button. It didn't even have a button. It's just a piece of glass
I hate that the fingerprint sensor is front mounted now. It just makes the lower bezel bigger,
fingerprint might be the same as O+3 have. It's really great.
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fingerprint might be the same as O+3 have. It's really great.
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O+3? You mean Oneplus 3?
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Yup, I do.
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I'm sure it's programmable, it's one of their features of EMUI. Front FPS is nice because you can wake it up and unlock while it's laying flat on a desk, you can't do that with a back FPS. If they offer a big sale up front for pre-orders in the US, I might consider it.
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Well, why not just press power key and unlock using password?
Back finger print sensor can operate the phone with one hand, unlock, slide down for notification which can't be done by front finger print sensor comfortably.
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Well, why not just press power key and unlock using password?
Back finger print sensor can operate the phone with one hand, unlock, slide down for notification which can't be done by front finger print sensor comfortably.
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That would cause wear down on the power button more quicky. And besides, it's fingerprint sensor. Why not use it as a security tool for unlocking the phone?
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Well, why not just press power key and unlock using password?
Back finger print sensor can operate the phone with one hand, unlock, slide down for notification which can't be done by front finger print sensor comfortably.
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Of course it's possible, doesn't make it convenient. Why not use a 32 character alphanumeric string for your phone password?
Also the slide gesture for notification shade is more inconvenient than simply adding the notification shade drop down as a 4th nav bar button, so that feature isn't a deal breaker for anyone.
The only mistake they've done it's replacing the FP to the front
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Of course it's possible, doesn't make it convenient. Why not use a 32 character alphanumeric string for your phone password?
Also the slide gesture for notification shade is more inconvenient than simply adding the notification shade drop down as a 4th nav bar button, so that feature isn't a deal breaker for anyone.
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It's a button that is programable to do anything, not just gestures. That's why we don't like the solid state reader on the front that cannot be pressed.
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It's a button that is programable to do anything, not just gestures. That's why we don't like the solid state reader on the front that cannot be pressed.
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A fair point, it comes down I suppose to how someone uses the phone. For me, I never found a use for the fingerprint button that I ever truly used regularly, other than the novelty. Losing that functionality won't impact me, but I can see how it could impact others.
Telperion said:
A fair point, it comes down I suppose to how someone uses the phone. For me, I never found a use for the fingerprint button that I ever truly used regularly, other than the novelty. Losing that functionality won't impact me, but I can see how it could impact others.
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Me too. Back in EMUI I programmed the smart key to some things I needed most of the time. But I found myself rarely using it.
adriansticoid said:
Me too. Back in EMUI I programmed the smart key to some things I needed most of the time. But I found myself rarely using it.
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The best use I found for it was mapping the Voice Search functionality, I used it to create reminders for myself in Google Assistant. Other than that, there wasn't much I could think of that helped me.
Telperion said:
The best use I found for it was mapping the Voice Search functionality, I used it to create reminders for myself in Google Assistant. Other than that, there wasn't much I could think of that helped me.
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Mine was sing click for Music and long tap for flashlight. The flashlight shortcut was the more useful.
Telperion said:
The best use I found for it was mapping the Voice Search functionality, I used it to create reminders for myself in Google Assistant. Other than that, there wasn't much I could think of that helped me.
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That so surprising, most reviews and myself included will state that they programmed the button to launch at least two of these key events:
Google search
Camera
Flashlight
Calculator
I use it every day for these items as it doesn't require me to unlock the phone and navigate to the icon. It saves a step or two and that's the key to efficient phone usage to me. It's the same reason why I can't stand iOS. It often requires more clicks to do the same task than it would on Android.
Just out of curiosity but why would you buy the H8 if the FPS on the back doesn't suit you. I specifically chose the phone (among other things ofc) because it's the most efficient and convenient FPS for me personally.
Pretty big deal how you unlock your phone imo given how often one does it.
Also i programmed all the gestures in the beginning as well and never used them apart from the flashlight .
I guess to some extent its just old habits that die hard
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Ergonomics (in-hand feel)

Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the Samsung Galaxy S9 feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Fits in my pocket nicely in my Tough Armor case. Can't even tell I have a phone.
So far one handed use is very comfortable, coming from an S7.
I hate the Bixby button location. Wouldn't be an issue if the power button was on the back, like my last few LGs.
Much more comfortable than the +. Coming from the S8+.
can you keep it in your hand?
No, I am so serious! Both my S8 and my S9 are SO SLICK,it is virtually impossible to hold the darn things at all. They require a safety case---Period. Why dont cases simlly come as part of the whole package? I mean--straight up, I bought a LOW END Blu as a burner whkle my phone was being worked on. Even yhst overglorified doorstpp came with a case IN THE BOX. SAMSUNG SHOULD DO SAME!
wmharley said:
I hate the Bixby button location. Wouldn't be an issue if the power button was on the back, like my last few LGs.
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The Bixby button location is in the perfect location to be a left-handed-hold camera shutter button. But I don't really want to trip Knox just to remap its operation...
I wish the volume rocker was about one button-worth lower than it is. It's about 2cm too high, another Bixby button compromise.
The power button location is fine, but I do miss the power-and-volume-rocker combo on the rear of the unit (like my LG G4).
It's a tall device, but it doesn't feel massive. In a Spigen TPU case, it still feels svelte and thin. I tend to 'cradle' the bottom of the phone by curling my little finger around the base, which sometimes blocks the right speaker & bass port, but that's just a thing.
christopherwoods said:
The Bixby button location is in the perfect location to be a left-handed-hold camera shutter button. But I don't really want to trip Knox just to remap its operation...
I wish the volume rocker was about one button-worth lower than it is. It's about 2cm too high, another Bixby button compromise.
The power button location is fine, but I do miss the power-and-volume-rocker combo on the rear of the unit (like my LG G4).
It's a tall device, but it doesn't feel massive. In a Spigen TPU case, it still feels svelte and thin. I tend to 'cradle' the bottom of the phone by curling my little finger around the base, which sometimes blocks the right speaker & bass port, but that's just a thing.
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Remap does not trip Knox! You can try bxActions for example.
christopherwoods said:
The Bixby button location is in the perfect location to be a left-handed-hold camera shutter button. But I don't really want to trip Knox just to remap its operation...
I wish the volume rocker was about one button-worth lower than it is. It's about 2cm too high, another Bixby button compromise.
The power button location is fine, but I do miss the power-and-volume-rocker combo on the rear of the unit (like my LG G4).
It's a tall device, but it doesn't feel massive. In a Spigen TPU case, it still feels svelte and thin. I tend to 'cradle' the bottom of the phone by curling my little finger around the base, which sometimes blocks the right speaker & bass port, but that's just a thing.
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BxActions doesn't trip KNOX, only flashing something custom will
Are you left handed? When I curl my little finger around the base it only rests in the headphone port
Ah, so the ADB remap methods won't screw with anything?
I'm right handed, but I've always held phones interchangeably in either hand. As I often keep the phone in left pocket, I'll typically hold with left hand and only use right hand for fast typing / pinch zooming.
Most annoyingly, using the volume button with either hand to take a one-handed photo results in the top of your index finger appearing in the photo, unless you shuffle your whole hand downward. I don't like this as it changes the centre of balance (I instinctively spread four fingers along the right edge of the phone to grip and stabilize).
If you try to take a single-handed photo with your right hand using the volume rocker as a shutter key, you can't avoid your right index finger blocking the view
christopherwoods said:
Ah, so the ADB remap methods won't screw with anything?
I'm right handed, but I've always held phones interchangeably in either hand. As I often keep the phone in left pocket, I'll typically hold with left hand and only use right hand for fast typing / pinch zooming.
Most annoyingly, using the volume button with either hand to take a one-handed photo results in the top of your index finger appearing in the photo, unless you shuffle your whole hand downward. I don't like this as it changes the centre of balance (I instinctively spread four fingers along the right edge of the phone to grip and stabilize).
If you try to take a single-handed photo with your right hand using the volume rocker as a shutter key, you can't avoid your right index finger blocking the view
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I always use the onscreen shutter button
No, ADB won't cause any problems, literally only flashing custom ROMs/Recovery/Root etc will trip KNOX
ALready dropped the phone 7 times and got too many cracks ? such a great hand feel ? I love it i might buy another one
Sharp edges.
The sides of the chassis have sharp edges. Not enough to cut into the hand, but enough to be uncomfortable to hold.
The glass and the aluminum edges don't line up perfectly. My previous S8 was perfectly smooth by comparison.
I'm sure most users slapped a case on it and never noticed this. I don't use cases so for me it's an annoyance.
they are sharp! OMG it can NOT be one handed!!! at least not to where you can reach the lock button
OMG it's stuck on Android8!!! only select version get pie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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