Custom Recovery Won't Open - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

Hello,
I'm having a issue with Custom Recovery.
I've tryed to install both (CWM and TWRP).
The thing is when I turn off my device to
turn it on again pressing Vol Up + Power + Home I got a message saying "Recovery Booting". But the recovery doesnt start, instead my phone vibrate and begins to boot normally. It doesnt enter in custom recovery mode.
I was hoping someone could help me on this.
My device:
Stock ROM
Root (Edited to get rid of Custom status)
1337UCUAMDL
Does anyone know how to unistall a custom recovery or have any idea why this is happening?
By the way I followed this steps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
Thanks

Are you letting go of the power button when the device vibrates?

This is how I get in recovery...while phone is on, long press power button for power menu, press restart...than only hold the volume up while it restarts and nothing else, it will than boot into recovery
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mg2195 said:
This is how I get in recovery...while phone is on, long press power button for power menu, press restart...than only hold the volume up while it restarts and nothing else, it will than boot into recovery
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have you tried re-flashing the recovery?

Have you tried downloading one of the simple reboot tools that let you choose to reboot recovery?

Thanks for the help guys.
So I tried enter in recovery thru CWM option (Restart in Recovery) it worked.
But it doesnt work when I try manually (vol up + home + power). I really dont know why.
I'm afraid flashing a custom rom doing this way, because if something goes wrong I wont be able to acess the costume recovery.
Is there a way to unisitall the custom recovery?

Vinao said:
Thanks for the help guys.
So I tried enter in recovery thru CWM option (Restart in Recovery) it worked.
But it doesnt work when I try manually (vol up + home + power). I really dont know why.
I'm afraid flashing a custom rom doing this way, because if something goes wrong I wont be able to acess the costume recovery.
Is there a way to unisitall the custom recovery?
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you can flash cwm touch using loki from my thread process is simple and easy files included
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2384388

Vinao said:
Thanks for the help guys.
So I tried enter in recovery thru CWM option (Restart in Recovery) it worked.
But it doesnt work when I try manually (vol up + home + power). I really dont know why.
I'm afraid flashing a custom rom doing this way, because if something goes wrong I wont be able to acess the costume recovery.
Is there a way to unisitall the custom recovery?
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when you see that blue text, and even right before that when your s4 vibrates, are you releasing just the power button? also, have you tried mg2195's suggestion? what recovery are you currently running?

Just flash a different recovery using the one u have.when I first rooted my S4 I used ROM manager ,it had the T-Mobile S4 option so I tapped it and it flashed CWM .after reading about "Loki"I decided to go with the auto Loki .I downloaded the auto Loki and flashed it with the recovery I got from ROM manager.not one problem and I like MDOB MF3 rom
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Vinao said:
Hello,
I'm having a issue with Custom Recovery.
I've tryed to install both (CWM and TWRP).
The thing is when I turn off my device to
turn it on again pressing Vol Up + Power + Home I got a message saying "Recovery Booting". But the recovery doesnt start, instead my phone vibrate and begins to boot normally. It doesnt enter in custom recovery mode.
I was hoping someone could help me on this.
My device:
Stock ROM
Root (Edited to get rid of Custom status)
1337UCUAMDL
Does anyone know how to unistall a custom recovery or have any idea why this is happening?
By the way I followed this steps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
Thanks
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This is actually a common problem for some reason. There's an easy workaround:
Long press the power button and choose "power off". Give your phone a few seconds to turn off completely. Once it's off, press and hold these 3 buttons at the same time: POWER+VOLUME UP+HOME. Look at the top left of the screen - as soon as you see little blue text saying entering recovery, let go of all buttons immediately...but be ready...if your phone vibrates (it might be trying to reboot normally again), press and hold those same buttons again until you see the blue text again...then let go immediately. Now you will see your recovery!
Alternatively, when I'm not on a custom ROM that has the reboot options mod built in, I use this app to get to recovery/bootloader easily:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.siriusapplications.quickboot

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[Q] Can't get into recovery...

For some reason I can't boot into recovery mode. Yesterday I tried to flash the PAC ROM but got stuck in the "PAC is loading" screen. I had to turn off and flash back to stock with RSD light. Now, I can't get into my recovery (TWRP 2.5.0.0). When I use adb to get to recovery I get a screen with a fallen over android with its hood open and a a red triangle with a exclamation mark in the middle. I've tried to re-flash TWRP but that doesn't change anything. I'm assuming this is some kind of error, anybody know what to do? I've also tried to use cwm but I can't get into that either.
Also, how do I not get stuck in that "PAC is loading" screen when flashing?
ImStillLearning said:
For some reason I can't boot into recovery mode. Yesterday I tried to flash the PAC ROM but got stuck in the "PAC is loading" screen. I had to turn off and flash back to stock with RSD light. Now, I can't get into my recovery (TWRP 2.5.0.0). When I use adb to get to recovery I get a screen with a fallen over android with its hood open and a a red triangle with a exclamation mark in the middle. I've tried to re-flash TWRP but that doesn't change anything. I'm assuming this is some kind of error, anybody know what to do? I've also tried to use cwm but I can't get into that either.
Also, how do I not get stuck in that "PAC is loading" screen when flashing?
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The easiest way to get into recovery is to power down, hold all three buttons and select recovery. Try wiping data after flashing PAC. Make sure your boot loader is unlocked.
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Leraeniesh said:
The easiest way to get into recovery is to power down, hold all three buttons and select recovery. Try wiping data after flashing PAC. Make sure your boot loader is unlocked.
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Yup, did all of this, same result. My bootloader is unlocked.
ImStillLearning said:
Yup, did all of this, same result. My bootloader is unlocked.
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couple of things:
1.) battery could be low, and thus unable to boot up. I would suggest plugging it in (outlet, not PC). let it sit for 15 minutes. you should see the battery charging screen. after waiting 15 minutes, try to get into recovery via power+volume up+ volume down, then select recovery
2.) doing the RSD could wipe the recovery - are you able to boot up normally into the ROM? if not, make sure you have all of the drivers installed on your PC, and re-read the installation instructions (I'm sure you already have, but sometimes going over them again might open your eyes up to something you forgot)
I'm not sure where it is, but see if you can boot into safemode (google search for it).
my only similar experience is when I tried to install a custom kernel on PAC, and nothing would display on my screen (despite me hearing notifications). I tried several times to get back into TWRP, but finally got it after pressing the three buttons, waiting about 10 seconds, pressing volume down one time, then volume up once (the pattern to get into recovery)
hope this helps.
RSD flashes your stock recovery again.
Hold volume up + down + power, wait for 5 seconds for the phone to power off.
Then hold the same, volume up + down + power to get into your menu screen, select adb fast boot and flash your recovery. (fastboot flash recovery YOUR_RECOVERY_FILE.img)
Power + Volume Down (-) = Reboot
During reboot:
Press and hold Volume Up (+) = Recovery
Press and hold Volume Down (-) = Fast Boot
Press and hold Volume Up (+) and Volume Down (-) = Boot Menu

S4 won't boot into cwm recovery

Okay so I have the cyanogen mod flashed on my s4. But for some reason now it won't boot into cwm recovery. Any ideas?
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bboyimpact33 said:
Okay so I have the cyanogen mod flashed on my s4. But for some reason now it won't boot into cwm recovery. Any ideas?
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In Developer options, enable the Advanced Reboot.
The 3 button combo will work, it's just a matter of timing. Remove and replace the battery, hold vol up + home, then power, holding all three, and when it vibrates, let go of power only.
You could also hook up in USB Debugging mode and issue the command:
adb reboot recovery
And if you don't have a developer option go into about phone and tap build number 7 times.
<=LongJohnSilver=> said:
In Developer options, enable the Advanced Reboot.
The 3 button combo will work, it's just a matter of timing. Remove and replace the battery, hold vol up + home, then power, holding all three, and when it vibrates, let go of power only.
You could also hook up in USB Debugging mode and issue the command:
adb reboot recovery
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Some people, including myself, cannot get it to work with the standard procedure...the solution is to basically do it twice. Here's a copy/paste of the instructions:
Long press the power button and choose "power off". Give your phone a few seconds to turn off completely. Once it's off, press and hold these 3 buttons at the same time: POWER+VOLUME UP+HOME. Look at the top left of the screen - as soon as you see little blue text saying entering recovery, let go of all buttons immediately...but be ready...if your phone vibrates (it might be trying to reboot normally again), press and hold those same buttons again until you see the blue text again...then let go immediately. Now you will see your recovery!
jeffreii said:
Some people, including myself, cannot get it to work with the standard procedure...the solution is to basically do it twice. Here's a copy/paste of the instructions:
Long press the power button and choose "power off". Give your phone a few seconds to turn off completely. Once it's off, press and hold these 3 buttons at the same time: POWER+VOLUME UP+HOME. Look at the top left of the screen - as soon as you see little blue text saying entering recovery, let go of all buttons immediately...but be ready...if your phone vibrates (it might be trying to reboot normally again), press and hold those same buttons again until you see the blue text again...then let go immediately. Now you will see your recovery!
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Cool
CWM recovery only requires you to push the volume up key and then press the power key until the phone vibrates and then let go of the power button only. When the blue lettering appears, let go of the volume up. The home button should only be required with TWRP.
scott14719 said:
CWM recovery only requires you to push the volume up key and then press the power key until the phone vibrates and then let go of the power button only. When the blue lettering appears, let go of the volume up. The home button should only be required with TWRP.
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Whatever the reason, that is not the case with my phone and many others. I've read several threads of people having the same issue. I'm not sure if it's an issue with the OUDHS CWM w/ auto-loki or what.
I've never heard of letting go of the power button only while still pressing volume up, but I gave it a try just to see...it did get me into CWM recovery but only after doing it twice, similar to the method I wrote above.
I have tried letting go of both volume up and power (no pressing home at all) and never found a way to get into recovery.
Anyways, it seems there's no harm in pressing the home button either way and it's probably easier than letting go of the power button and still holding volume up...and easier to explain too lol.
jeffreii said:
Whatever the reason, that is not the case with my phone and many others. I've read several threads of people having the same issue. I'm not sure if it's an issue with the OUDHS CWM w/ auto-loki or what.
I've never heard of letting go of the power button only while still pressing volume up, but I gave it a try just to see...it did get me into CWM recovery but only after doing it twice, similar to the method I wrote above.
I have tried letting go of both volume up and power (no pressing home at all) and never found a way to get into recovery.
Anyways, it seems there's no harm in pressing the home button either way and it's probably easier than letting go of the power button and still holding volume up...and easier to explain too lol.
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I'm having the same problem.
Have you found an answer or work around solution yet?
GS4 AT&T
Base version: I337UCUAMF3
Kernel: 3.4.0-812098
CWM Recovery: 6.0.3.6
rooted with SD format
Never been able to flash the rom successfully
cariboucar said:
I'm having the same problem.
Have you found an answer or work around solution yet?
GS4 AT&T
Base version: I337UCUAMF3
Kernel: 3.4.0-812098
CWM Recovery: 6.0.3.6
rooted with SD format
Never been able to flash the rom successfully
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You need to read... Seriously, you are going to brick your phone. Do not try to install any custom recovery or ROM of any kind on MF3.
Why can't people read?
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bboyimpact33 said:
Okay so I have the cyanogen mod flashed on my s4. But for some reason now it won't boot into cwm recovery. Any ideas?
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My minor issue is that when I boot to recovery (twrp) it get to the twrp splash screen then freeze. Takes me another reboot or two before recovery really launches.
Tried reinstalling recovery and fixing permission, etc.. but same deal. Anyone have thoughts on this?
I boot into recovery all the time but I have to hold volume up and home button.
Bump!
I'm having the same issue. What I did was that I had the CWM recovery installed and tried to reset the flash counter. Now the phone won't boot into the recovery, it just boots up as usual when I press vol up+home+power up. I appreciate any help! :/
metalfr33ak said:
Bump!
I'm having the same issue. What I did was that I had the CWM recovery installed and tried to reset the flash counter. Now the phone won't boot into the recovery, it just boots up as usual when I press vol up+home+power up. I appreciate any help! :/
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Can you get the blue text in the upper left corner of the screen to appear at any time?
In my case, trying to get into recovery via the 3 buttons is a matter of very precise timing if I try pressing all 3 buttons at the same time. The instant I see the blue text I let go of everything and it works. Hold it for even a fraction of a second longer and the blue disappears and it goes into a normal boot. It works much better if I press Vol Up, then add Power, then add Home. I'm doing that sequence fairly quickly but the point is I'm not trying to press 3 buttons at the exact same time.
But I'm using CWM so I don't need the 3rd button...
From a powered-down state I hold Vol Up then Power and hold both through the vibration until the blue text appears and it goes into CWM recovery just fine. There seems to be a bit more leeway in terms of how fast you need to let go this way although I just tested and holding about a half second too long caused it to bounce out of recovery and do a normal boot. Let go immediately when you see the blue.
Phone won't boot..
So after using CASUAL, my phone rebooted, and got stuck on the splash screen with RECOVERY BOOTING.. in the top left corner. I pull the battery, try to do a normal reboot; takes me to the same screen. Trying the 3 button combo for recovery; same thing. Any suggestions?? I am NOT on MF3 Firmware.
**EDIT** Should have looked into it more before posting, but Found my solution returning to STOCK
im having the same problem.. i rebooted using ROM MANAGER and the android with red exclamation mark appeared... when i hold de buttons, there are blue letters, but the recovery mode dont work, just the android recovery...
edgarzin said:
im having the same problem.. i rebooted using ROM MANAGER and the android with red exclamation mark appeared... when i hold de buttons, there are blue letters, but the recovery mode dont work, just the android recovery...
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What is the baseband version on your phone?
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guitarpunk8403 said:
What is the baseband version on your phone?
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hey man.. thanks for replying, baseband is MDL.. since CWM wasnt working, i installed TWRP and it is working. It offers the same results right? Im want to flash a 4.4.2 rom...
thanks.
It should....I'm stuck on safestrap, but I always used TWRP on my S3
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Locoman_ said:
My minor issue is that when I boot to recovery (twrp) it get to the twrp splash screen then freeze. Takes me another reboot or two before recovery really launches.
Tried reinstalling recovery and fixing permission, etc.. but same deal. Anyone have thoughts on this?
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Same with my gionne ctrl v4s lollipop stock ,when i flash cwm made by mirchifood convertor but then i flash that stock recovery it works
But i really want cwm ir twrp to installl supersu and do backups

How to enter recovery...

What are the button combinations to enter recovery on this phone? I have googled and looked in other threads, but it apparently is just assumed everyone knows this.
Thanks in advance
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If you are rooted, Titanium Backup, Goo Manager, Power Reboot...These are all applications in the Play Store. As far as using the buttons, I am sure they have worked out the issues using the hardware buttons, but I don't do it that way. Hope this helped!!
For TWRP press and hold the power and volume down button. When the LG logo pops up let go for a second and press the combo again. You'll be prompted to press the power button 3 times to wipe the device. Then It'll boot into TWRP without wiping.
anpan879 said:
For TWRP press and hold the power and volume down button. When the LG logo pops up let go for a second and press the combo again. You'll be prompted to press the power button 3 times to wipe the device. Then It'll boot into TWRP without wiping.
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I don't have TWRP . WHAT CAN I DON TO GET HE RECOVERY MODE COZ I'M STOCKED IN A LOOP AND CANT GET MY PHONE STARTED NORMALLY.
ANY ONE CAN HELP PLEASE??
Flash back to stock is the only solution. Been there done that. After you get rooted and newest twrp you won't have to worry again going forward.
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mahmoudwifi said:
I don't have TWRP . WHAT CAN I DON TO GET HE RECOVERY MODE COZ I'M STOCKED IN A LOOP AND CANT GET MY PHONE STARTED NORMALLY.
ANY ONE CAN HELP PLEASE??
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If you have the Verizon version, do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448960
If you have any other version (AT&T, ect), do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
thank you so much for your fast reply.
what I need and meant by recovery mode is where i can format the rom and restore the factory setting when i fail to log in the operating system ( usually was VOLUME DOWN AND POWER BUTTON to get it ) but this method is not working here.

[Q] Can only boot to custom recovery via ROm Manager

HI
I have the i9505 samsung s4.
I managed to root it via odin, and flashed the Team win recovery as part of the process. I downloaded root checker and it shows that the device is rooted.
However, when i turn the device off and then try and boot to the custom recover I am finding it impossible.
I hold the volume down, home key then press the power button and keep them pressed. THe phone keeps going to the odin download mode and no further etc. However, I can get to the custom recovery via rom manager. What am i doing wrong??
Using rom manager is fine, however if something goes wrong during a custom rom flash then i will need to use the buttons to boot to custom recovery
Please help
Manny
mannysroot said:
HI
I have the i9505 samsung s4.
I managed to root it via odin, and flashed the Team win recovery as part of the process. I downloaded root checker and it shows that the device is rooted.
However, when i turn the device off and then try and boot to the custom recover I am finding it impossible.
I hold the volume down, home key then press the power button and keep them pressed. THe phone keeps going to the odin download mode and no further etc. However, I can get to the custom recovery via rom manager. What am i doing wrong??
Using rom manager is fine, however if something goes wrong during a custom rom flash then i will need to use the buttons to boot to custom recovery
Please help
Manny
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Try to turn off your phone manually press and hold power+volumeUp When you see the rebooting recovery on top of your screen (blue) let go of your fingers mate
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Repulsa said:
Try to turn off your phone manually press and hold power+volumeUp When you see the rebooting recovery on top of your screen (blue) let go of your fingers mate
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Hi that's what I did but I don't see a blue logo at any point ... Just goes straight to the Odin download screen. Strange that I can get to recovery via Rom manager
mannysroot said:
Hi that's what I did but I don't see a blue logo at any point ... Just goes straight to the Odin download screen. Strange that I can get to recovery via Rom manager
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Try to flash philz recovery via odin then try to boot into recovery and when it goes fine try to flash the custom recovery you want.
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Repulsa said:
Try to flash philz recovery via odin then try to boot into recovery and when it goes fine try to flash the custom recovery you want.
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Tried that and still no difference can boot to the philz recovery from the power options of phone but not using the buttons. Is there something within the phones options I need to enable or disable ?
mannysroot said:
Tried that and still no difference can boot to the philz recovery from the power options of phone but not using the buttons. Is there something within the phones options I need to enable or disable ?
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If you flash Philz recovery you can boot only when you turn off your phone and by Hold and pressing Power+Volumeup . Im Guessing your asking the Extended Power menu Option by Pressing Power and choose restart > There should be Reboot Option IE Reboot,Recovery,Downloadmode. Mate is your phone rooted? If you want an Extended power menu option try to install WannamXposed , and Enable it from there, Make sure to follow hes Tutorial. Have a nice day.
Repulsa said:
If you flash Philz recovery you can boot only when you turn off your phone and by Hold and pressing Power+Volumeup . Im Guessing your asking the Extended Power menu Option by Pressing Power and choose restart > There should be Reboot Option IE Reboot,Recovery,Downloadmode. Mate is your phone rooted? If you want an Extended power menu option try to install WannamXposed , and Enable it from there, Make sure to follow hes Tutorial. Have a nice day.
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hi it is the same with both custom and stock rom. I am now running paranoid 4.4.2.
The issue is that I need an option to get to recovery using the buttons. There is no issues getting to recovery from the power menu once the phone is running
It is really annoying me now
Thanks

Can't get into recovery mode

Here's my problem.
I can't get into recovery by pressing the power up, home, power buttons. It says it's 'entering recovery', but then it gives another 'buzz' (like when the phone starts), and just reboots normally.
I used to be able to get into recovery with ROMManager, by selecting the 'boot into recovery'. Then I just got into my CWM and could do whatever I wanted. Now I can't do that anymore, probably because my device is not rooted atm (got CM12 on it though). I wanted to root it, but I can't get into recovery.
I already tried flashing TWRP with Odin (download mode does work), but that doesn't work either. I obviously searched google and XDA for the problem, and I saw suggestions for other phones, like updating the bootloader. But I can't find any information or files for updating the bootloader.
sebas156 said:
Here's my problem.
I can't get into recovery by pressing the power up, home, power buttons. It says it's 'entering recovery', but then it gives another 'buzz' (like when the phone starts), and just reboots normally.
I used to be able to get into recovery with ROMManager, by selecting the 'boot into recovery'. Then I just got into my CWM and could do whatever I wanted. Now I can't do that anymore, probably because my device is not rooted atm (got CM12 on it though). I wanted to root it, but I can't get into recovery.
I already tried flashing TWRP with Odin (download mode does work), but that doesn't work either. I obviously searched google and XDA for the problem, and I saw suggestions for other phones, like updating the bootloader. But I can't find any information or files for updating the bootloader.
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Reboots trying to go custom recovery are normal sometimes.
Lil guide for enter custom recovery (TWRP):
1. Power off your device completely.
2. Press and hold Volume Up, Home and Power buttons simultaneously.
3. Release only the Power button when the logo of Samsung in white appears (you will see little letters in blue and red on the top left of the screen).
4. You will see the blue logo of TWRP (pic attached) then and you can release all buttons and start to navigate for the custom recovery.
Joku1981 said:
Reboots trying to go custom recovery are normal sometimes.
Lil guide for enter custom recovery (TWRP):
1. Power off your device completely.
2. Press and hold Volume Up, Home and Power buttons simultaneously.
3. Release only the Power button when the logo of Samsung in white appears (you will see little letters in blue and red on the top left of the screen).
4. You will see the blue logo of TWRP (pic attached) then and you can release all buttons and start to navigate for the custom recovery.
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Thanks for the reply, but I don't think you understood my question. I know how to get into recovery when it all works. I've done it many times before. The problem is that it shuts down while booting into recovery, and then just reboots normally.
I only installed TWRP because CWM wouldn't work, but TWRP doesn't either. So I guess it has to do with how the device boots into recovery, regardless of what the recovery is.
Anyone? I kinda want to flash another ROM, but I'm unable to right now.
sebas156 said:
Anyone? I kinda want to flash another ROM, but I'm unable to right now.
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hi
Check your power button.....it happened before , a defective power botton will make it hard to enter recovery or download mode
MAX 404 said:
hi
Check your power button.....it happened before , a defective power botton will make it hard to enter recovery or download mode
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I don't think that's the problem. I have 0 issues with the power button. Also, when I try to boot into recovery, it actually says it's 'starting recovery'. Then it stops with a buzz and reboots.
sebas156 said:
I don't think that's the problem. I have 0 issues with the power button. Also, when I try to boot into recovery, it actually says it's 'starting recovery'. Then it stops with a buzz and reboots.
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may be one of the other push buttons.....
try to get into recovery with out pressing the power button and see if is possible...if so then the problem is coming from there.

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