Poll [JB kernel] multiboot or not - Xperia Play General

Well since we are working on many JB roms for GSM/CDMA for better JB roms,i m in doubt what users think..so i m gonna keep this real simple:
do you prefer a multiboot kernel like:
lupusJB v8 480p
turbo kernel 3.1
or lupus JBv13?:cyclops:
this might give an idea to @wedgess or @DiKeJ when updating a new JB kernel with no 4.2.2 support.

smokerman said:
Well since we are working on many JB roms for GSM/CDMA for better JB roms,i m in doubt what users think..so i m gonna keep this real simple:
do you prefer a multiboot kernel like:
lupusJB v8 480p
turbo kernel 3.1
or lupus JBv13?:cyclops:
this might give an idea to @wedgess or @DiKeJ when updating a new JB kernel with no 4.2.2 support.
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in my opinion ... A no multiboot kernel would be better ..
would ensure more compatibility .. and less complicated for users notavos .. (Would save a lot of silly questions to answer) jejej ..
light a future release of a 4.2 kernel ... not so charged (without many Governors and other things) would be great ..
By the way @ smokerman .. going to be possible in a future kernel to 4.3?? and reach some stable rom? sorry if this is a dumb question on my part ..

Honestly I'd rather use a multiboot kernel like lupus v8 or turbo kernel. It's easier for testing Roms and seeing what you want to use and if you want different themed Roms much easier. The only reason I'm on lupus v13 is because I'm stuck on it lol
Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)

Honestly I prefer to have multiboot capability like turbo 3.1 jb ICS (cm9) ICS (stock) and GB its great. and easy to swap out Roms while on the move and you can't always flash a kernel just MHO
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For testing it is really useful to have multiboot (even if we need a good sdcard to use it, with a class 4 sd it is unasable for example), but to keep the things simple IMHO is better to not have it
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@smokerman, on second thought, it would be better if multiboot kernel. But that is compatible with GB / ICS / JB (as Turbo kernel) .. or just GB / JB if possible .. then you could use (GB) rom gaming, and (JB) and cell rom .. hehe

In my case I prefer a non-multiboot kernel, because I think that the compatibility would be better and I also would like to be able to record in 720p. I can also understand people who wants a multiboot kernel, because is a useful thing, but as I don't use it to much I prefer it not to be multiboot
Enviado desde mi Xperia Play

yekasangredevago said:
light a future release of a 4.2 kernel ... not so charged (without many Governors and other things) would be great ..
By the way @ smokerman .. going to be possible in a future kernel to 4.3?? and reach some stable rom? sorry if this is a dumb question on my part ..
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i find hard to have a fully 4.2.2 rom/kernel working for play (touchpads/gamepads included)..we simply dont have that many devs working here..they move on to other new xperia 2013 series..so we gonna be at 4.1.2 and its good as we have many roms with all features for our phone..(touchpads still lag on JB ,but i use 99%gamepads so for me its fine JB roms).
a dedicated kernel its always better for hard gamers..performance is the main reason..on JB i prefer multiboot..different partitions,other roms (GB,ICS,CM9) we have the top of the kernels..altough is highly recommended you have a class10 sd card..or else you gonna be hurting performance.:good:

smokerman said:
i find hard to have a fully 4.2.2 rom/kernel working for play (touchpads/gamepads included)..we simply dont have that many devs working here..they move on to other new xperia 2013 series..so we gonna be at 4.1.2 and its good as we have many roms with all features for our phone..(touchpads still lag on JB ,but i use 99%gamepads so for me its fine JB roms).
a dedicated kernel its always better for hard gamers..performance is the main reason..on JB i prefer multiboot..different partitions,other roms (GB,ICS,CM9) we have the top of the kernels..altough is highly recommended you have a class10 sd card..or else you gonna be hurting performance.:good:
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if you have a core reason .. multiboot is much better. would be great if someone could solve even the touchpad error in GB (for turbo kernel 3.1) as usage in GB (PsPocket) and the gaming performance is much better .. but hey up to you developers that happen ..
Thanks for all your work for Xperia Play, and keep him alive a while longer ..

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Xperia Problems after ICS

Hey Guys ever Since Custom Sony Beta and The Official ROM I experince these Issues:
Phone Is on But never Responds to Hardware Keys to wake Up.
I have to Re-flash ROMs Sometimes able to get in both Fastboot and Recovery.
Using Doom's Kernel Mostly or Other Custom ones.
What's Wrong?
Using CM7 Stock is the Only ROM that works for me.
Front Facing Camera is Dead.
any help
As far as I know (I could be wrong) but I dont think Doom has done much in the ways of ICS, so I don't think his Kernel is made with ICS in mind if that makes sense. maybe thats whats causing some of your issues, Cmod7 is a GB rom right? which is the only one that works? with dooms kernel? Like I said I could be wrong and if I am I'm sure someone wont hesitate to let me know it lol I'd recomend reverting to GB if you can, try the stock GB rom and see if that works with Doom's kernel.
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As far as I know (I could be wrong) but I dont think Doom has done much in the ways of ICS, so I don't think his Kernel is made with ICS in mind if that makes sense. maybe thats whats causing some of your issues, Cmod7 is a GB rom right? which is the only one that works? with dooms kernel? Like I said I could be wrong and if I am I'm sure someone wont hesitate to let me know it lol I'd recomend reverting to GB if you can, try the stock GB rom and see if that works with Doom's kernel.
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DooM released a ICS kernel too.
Beta means not ready, Release Candidate means Not ready but almost, Stable means ready , If you want a stable ROM, Go to Stock.
Try the Darkforest ROM with DooMLoRD's advanced stock kernel.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24203227
Best ICS Rom at the moment. Use the ICS kernel in the post instead of Doomkernel.
Also don't flash any CDMA stuff if on a GSM device
Sent from my sexy, sultry, suave Xperia Play sporting this season's Ice Cream Sony swimwear

Should I buy Defy+? Modding question

I am looking to buy a new phone.
My primary neeeds are -
1. Music.
2. Sports tracker.
3. Browsing
4. General stuff
Other than that I am looking for modding. So have some question, no doubt defy has great support for custom roms, but what about defy + ?
1. Is there MIUI rom (stable/full functional) rom for defy+ ?
2. Same above for CM mod.
3. Is the MIUI rom based on ICS ?
4. IS there any ICS rom for defy+ ?
Please do let me know since I urgently need a phone. Or -
Should i buy sony Xperia Sola with dual core SOC, 8gb space. Since Sola is new there is no modding support and I am not sure how good it will be in future.
Please I am looking forward to your inputs.
Regards
better go for one with an unlocked bootloader
1. Is there MIUI rom (stable/full functional) rom for defy+ ?
NO. MIUI is only for the normal defy (froyo kernel) simply put.
2. Same above for CM mod.
Yes, Quarx builds CM7 nighlies for defy+
3. Is the MIUI rom based on ICS ?
Yes, WIUI v4(EDIT: froyo kernel, not for defy+). Status: beta
4. IS there any ICS rom for defy+ ?
Yes, unofficial CM9 nightlies by our dear developers Epsylon3 and Quarx ++
Should I buy Defy+?
NO
Or - Should i buy sony Xperia Sola with dual core SOC, 8gb space.
Yes
My reasons to buy the Xperia Sola:
Newer
Upgrade to Android 4, Ice Cream Sandwich (official)
Dual core
Most importantly: UNLOCKABLE BOOTOLADER
Check out this too.
Maybe
Well, it depends.
The Defy+ is a smartphone for those who tend to be less carefull with their devices.
There are a few lacks, the digitizer tends to fail on allot of defy+'s.
so does the loudspeaker. But if you do get a proper working defy+, i can't say it's a bad phone. granted it's not the fasted.
My point is, for 270 bucks you cannot get a better phone then the defy+. It is now rootable and can run custom roms.
It's strong, durable and good looking. very nice quality for such a low price.
Thanks for the reply, will settle for Sola.
So can I hope for future support for custom roms like MIUI ?
custom rom for sola or defy+?
1. Is there MIUI rom (stable/full functional) rom for defy+ ?
MIUI ROMs based onn the Gingerbread kernel have started showing up in the last week, so I'm sure there'll be a lot development in that area.
2. Same above for CM mod.
Yup, there are even three variations to choose from - Epsylon's, Quarx's and FuZZ's. All stable with slightly different features.
3. Is the MIUI rom based on ICS ?
Yes, there are MIUI v4 ROMs available for Gingerbread kernels (like I mentioned, they started showing up recently). I know about two of them - XIUI and XIUI+WIUI and I think there's more.
4. IS there any ICS rom for defy+ ?
Apart from MIUI v4, there are three variations of CM9 available, by the same authors of the CM ROM's.
I like my DEFY+ because it's super compact, very sturdy and waterproof. The screen is brilliant and how could it not be with this pixel density. I do wish it was a bit more powerful, though, in all ways - CPU, RAM, camera, but I'm not sure why, since it has never failed or annoyed me so far It's a very enjoyable phone.
I can't speak of the Sola as I have never used it :/ How much higher is the price? I can see that it has a significantly smaller capacity battery with a dual core CPU, I'd say that's a minus. About the dimensions, I see that the Sola is a bit longer and somewhat thinner... I think thinner is not a better option for these 3.7" screen phones, so I'd go for defy+'s shortness on that one...
I'd say that's enough from me
*EDIT* This time I actually read your whole first post So, I guess you didn't know... DEFY+ = red lens DEFY with a higher capacity battery So, yeah, it's the same phone, it only comes clocked at 1ghz vs 800mhz that was set on the standard DEFY. Doesn't matter, both work fine @1.2ghz And, yeah, the same ROMs are used for both phones... There's even a Froyo sbf available for DEFY+, but there's no use anymore since the Gingerbread MIUI showed up...
Whatever, wish you the best with whichever phone you choose
I run MIUI_Scotland_2.6.1 version which is based off gb kernel and built for defy +. It is pretty stable and smooth.
My phone is regular defy red lens with the above rom and with Walter dht22 kernel.
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niksy+ said:
1.
I like my DEFY+ because it's super compact, very sturdy and waterproof. The screen is brilliant and how could it not be with this pixel density. I do wish it was a bit more powerful, though, in all ways - CPU, RAM, camera, but I'm not sure why, since it has never failed or annoyed me so far It's a very enjoyable phone.
Whatever, wish you the best with whichever phone you choose
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Thanks, niksy for writing all that! I was too bitter at moto locking the bootloader to write positively about the defy in my reply.
Sent from my Defy+
premaca said:
I run MIUI_Scotland_2.6.1 version which is based off gb kernel and built for defy +. It is pretty stable and smooth.
My phone is regular defy red lens with the above rom and with Walter dht22 kernel.
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Really? That is gb (not v4)? Since when??
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fiskenigaten said:
Really? That is gb (not v4)? Since when??
Sent from my Defy+
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yes, it is gb and not v4. I have been running since week.
Here is the link for download, http://www.mediafire.com/?1izcl565wllkf90
And here is the original thread. http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=392243
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3.X.X kernel

Hi guys does anybody knows are some DEV/DEVS buiding 3.0.X or 3.X.X kernel?
Till now we don't have so many kernels only 2.6.x kernels.
It would be nice if we had 3.x.x kernel in our LG gt540.
I think it's also better for ics and jellybean than example 2.6.35.11 (Correct If I'm wrong ).
True and not true
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True and not true
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Because...
Could you explain it a little more please ? I know that a 3.x kernel is extremely unlikely, but I don't know why it is. Could you share a bit of your knowledge?
It needs writing/porting ALL drivers . Extremely hard to do. We should be happy to have 2.6.32/35 and not only 29 provided by LG. Other phones which have kernel sources and everything provided by their manufacturers of course have newer, better kernel (for ics and jb) but the kernels we have do their Job ok..
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Ok and andreas_ you are write we should be happy to have 2.6.35 and 2.6.32 these are also good enough for our
Let's see how good jellybean we have after a while with 2.6.35 kernel.
Niquel97 said:
Ok and andreas_ you are write we should be happy to have 2.6.35 and 2.6.32 these are also good enough for our
Let's see how good jellybean we have after a while with 2.6.35 kernel.
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Well I guess I will stay with gb till the end
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Well I guess I will stay with gb till the end
Why You like to stay with gb because it maybe little faster than ics or it has also little more free ram??
I go to ics because all of the gb roms are unstable for me which is doesn't good for me.
So ics is a lot more stable for me and i like ics style more than gb .
Niquel97 said:
Well I guess I will stay with gb till the end
Why You like to stay with gb because it maybe little faster than ics or it has also little more free ram??
I go to ics because all of the gb roms are unstable for me which is doesn't good for me.
So ics is a lot more stable for me and i like ics style more than gb .
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of course ICS is much more beautiful, but GB has more free ram and i can't stand waiting like 10 seconds to open a new app ( yeah thats really true)
tejasdj12's Cm7 is much more stable than any cm9/aokp i've tested
Any of gb rom (tejas, miro, win) are way faster then ics and good for dayle use. Ics is just to slow, 5-10 to open dailer or sms app is iritating.

HTC Desire Fanboy wants to boost girlfriends Galaxy S - need advices

Hi guys,
i know that Thread is kind of lazy but my girlfriends Galaxy S1 (Stock 2.3 ROM not rooted) is soooo damn slow and i wanna help her with a new ROM,Kernel etc...
Myself is using the newest ICS Release on my HTC Desire but i readed and informed me everyday for best performance.
At the HTC Desire topic im very well-informed but the Samsung topic is extremly new for me...so only thing i did : Stock 2.2 to Stock 2.3
(Kies is bull**** xD ?!?!)
I would like to root my girlfriends Droid but i dont know which ROM or Kernel should i chose...there are sooo much.
Because of that...guys: Whats the best, smoothest and especially stable ROM (especially for girls^^) whatever Gingerbread or ICS...i think JB is not smooth enough like on Desire :/ (too much issues etc)
It would be pretty if someone could help me so that i can boost the performance of my girlfriends phone on the best and stable way.
THX
Try stock android 2.3.6 ZSJW4. Root it with CF Root and she will be fine. Very stable and smooth with no bugs. Yoy can find it on Sammobile.com
For Gingerbread I recommend the Samsung stock roms, which are pretty stable.
See this thread for official GB firmwares from Samsung (includes also a guide for flashing stock roms with Odin).
See this thread for CF-Root, a basic rooted kernel for stock GB roms (it's the stock kernel with added su binary, SuperUser app and CWM recovery).
See this thread for Semaphore, an extended kernel for stock GB roms.
I only tried Cyanogenmod 9 as ICS rom so I can't recommend any other ICS rom, but CM9 is pretty stable (I'm using RC2 atm and have no big problems). To install CM9 or other ICS based roms, you need to install CF-Root or Semaphore first (through Odin), to get CWM recovery.
thx guys, but
@ c_codrut: i don't think that TouchWiz is a good choice...because its still boring and slowly
@stbenz: thanks for your informations, i will look at this. But im intrest about the CM9 Stuff on Galaxy S
I also use CM9 for my desire but its not officially supported...its an ROM from xda (DK-Zero) and its know very stable and without any big issues.
But i used it since 2012/04..and at this time it was very buggy...no mic no camera etc...for me no problem but for her xD not acceptable^^
But my problem is that myself can fix problems on my device and can live with it...but i dont want that my girlfriend need help with every update or something else...she should use the ROM as an almost stable and for daily-usable ROM.
I know that i should or could test it but its not my device and i couldn't walk all day with it^^ (hope you understand this )
It would be cool, if see could use ICS by CM or what about the AOKP ? (i missed that for my desire :/)
So best thing would be a almost stable ICS ROM....i/she dont need that Samsung UI i guess.
CM9 RC2 (from 2012-07-19) or the Nightly (from 2012-08-07) ?
or what about AOKP (Milestone 6) ?
cm9 + latest devil kernel :highfive:
AOKP milestone 6, semaphore 1.3.0s kernel. Fast, stable and she‘ll have unicorns.
sent from a telephonic device
Try Cm9 Rc2 very stable
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium
With cm9 all hardware works except for fm radio. Some are reporting, that the latest nightlies are more stable than rc2, but thats most likely because bugfixes for bugs reported for rc2 are already merged to the nightlies. But I also think we are not far away from the next rc/final version, so if you don't want to flash too often, you could wait for the next rc/final version.
yahyoh said:
cm9 + latest devil kernel :highfive:
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This guy knows what he is saying. Use CM9 RC2 and Devil Kernel and you got yourself a blazingly fast winner!
ok, guys THX!!!
i will start with CM9RC2...was my favorite anyway
And when i update the ROM ...does it works like on Desire (wiping cache and dalvik) installing newest RC or Nightly?
Or the Kernels needs often to be update?
Hey, I am using this ROM and I can only say it is extremely good, a real revelation after using Froyo and GB. I had some issues with CM9 but it was also great and superfast. i9000 with ICS is like a completely new phone!
Hope this helped a bit.
Pritti said:
ok, guys THX!!!
i will start with CM9RC2...was my favorite anyway
And when i update the ROM ...does it works like on Desire (wiping cache and dalvik) installing newest RC or Nightly?
Or the Kernels needs often to be update?
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The kernel gets flashed every time you install an update, so if you have an alternative kernel, you have to flash it again every time you flash a new CM9 version. You also have to flash gapps after every update.
Girls will like MIUI ROM. Its beautiful and have custom theme... try it out.
ksavai said:
Girls will like MIUI ROM. Its beautiful and have custom theme... try it out.
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Eww iPhone look :thumbdown:
Cm9 and aokp have themes engine too
sent from another galaxy
Hi guys...im back and finished my work
I rooted with Odin and hopefully with the correct Kernel.After that i made a NAND-Backup.
So i wiped everything and flashed CM9 RC2 and the Gapps...and everything was smooth and cool
But so far i didn't flashed the devilkernel yet...the CM-kernel seems ok.
So my question whats the Pros and Cons of the Devil-kernel compared to the CM-builtin-Kernel?
I think batterylife is important than extreme power and high batteryloss, i guess for her ^^
BTW: To make CM more female, i installed a pink theme and a pink clock widget for my girlfriend, she's happy now
And again guys...THANKS...it was very interesting to flash and root an other device (brand) and i saw the differences, Pros and Cons!
In my opinion Rooting on desire was easier and not needed as much informations and readings ^^
I hope she get no big problems but i not averse to work on her device too^^
And im jealous that her ROM runs so stable...on Desire its also stable but the Videocam doesnt work ...damn :crying: (very choppy)
But there isn't a official CMsupport or 100% HWA
i don't know about the devils kernel, but i can definitely recommend the ICS semaphore kernel http://forum. xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468795
just remove the spaces.
using the smartassV2 govenor, etc, my phone's battery lasts about a day longer than it did on the cm9 kernel
Ok, i also use this governor on my desire and an extra sleep state governor
...the smartass v2 rocks !!!!
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
dhurk said:
Try Cm9 Rc2 very stable
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+1
edit: CM9 stable is now out. So that's a no brainer.
http://get.cm/?device=galaxysmtd&type=stable
woooow nice THX...but lol...i finished my work 2 days before xD
So is it possible to flash the stable Version over the RC2?without any negative aspects?!
The update process is like desire? wiping Cache and dalvik an flash the New Version?
Sry for these noob question but i want a good running system for my girl and cannot test the system many days like on my device
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
You just flash the stable over RC2, flash the google apps, and that's it. No need to wipe anything. If in doubt, make a nandroid backup before flashing.

331MB of free ram

the title says it all see if anyone can beat that screenshots below to anyone that dosent believe me rom+ kernel is
NXT GAMING+DX_Engine_Extreme (Beta)
extremetempz said:
the title says it all see if anyone can beat that screenshots below to anyone that dosent believe me rom+ kernel is
NXT GAMING+DX_Engine (Beta)
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THATS AWSOME!:good:
Whats your Benchmark and how much are you overclocking?
Wao is fantastic:laugh:
WTF!?!?!
Sent from my CyberDroid
How much stuff did you delete? Because the most I've gotten while it still being a working phone with gapps and everything is 310mb.
its not the rom its the kernel
extremetempz said:
its not the rom its the kernel
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So is this a new kernel that is in "testing" and is not released yet? Because doing a search only brought up DiXperia ROM, so guessing DikeJ is working on a kernel, perhaps?
If this kernel is available can you be kind enough to post a link for it?
Edit - scratch that, the only thing I find is an X10 kernel... so going to venture DikeJ is working on porting it to our Xperia PLAY.. as I know he does work on teh X10 as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2345327
This says its a JB kernel, but is this a GB kernel as well?
I'm working on this kernel for DikeJ and his set of dixperia ROMs and I don't have any plans to upload it till DikeJ ask me to
edit: there will be a kernel for each android ROM DikeJ Makes this kernel is for dixperia perennial
Will the kernel work on r800x too?
chick3n564 said:
Will the kernel work on r800x too?
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Possibly since its based on Lupus Kernel I should be able to work something out
That's awesome but when it's ready and dike j says you can upload do you think you can make two versions work one of them having als disabled. My phone als is broken so unless Als is disabled at kernel level it won't work. Sorry if it's too much to ask but if you can do that I'll be very grateful
Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)
Could you be able to do this with ICS/JB kernels too?
Spatinator said:
Could you be able to do this with ICS/JB kernels too?
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yeah I will you won't get 330 mb free ram though
Hail the King @extremetempz and @DiKeJ who are gonna build awesome Kernel + ROM for the R800x
But if you give the system, kernel etc. 420mbs of ram, there's only about 90mbs for the gpu/3d rendering(?) left. Wouldn't that cause lag in games?
Spatinator said:
But if you give the system, kernel etc. 420mbs of ram, there's only about 90mbs for the gpu/3d rendering(?) left. Wouldn't that cause lag in games?
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The 90mb RAM is for the Kernel, not for GPU/3D Rendering - That is done using system RAM.
There will be 4 main Kernels from DXEngine:
-2 for X10 (GB and JB)
-2 for Play (GB and ICS/JB)
But it's not over, cause each main project will have other version with other destination - for example with some features disabled, but better in performance etc. etc. Justin (@extremetempz) is main Kernel Developer for my ROM projects so all credits goes to him - I focused on ROMs to make it best stable and settled with Kernels - trust me, it should do the job .
Spatinator said:
But if you give the system, kernel etc. 420mbs of ram, there's only about 90mbs for the gpu/3d rendering(?) left. Wouldn't that cause lag in games?
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games should actually run smoother because I've doubled the vram 4mb vs 8m
Edit: if anyone can extract lupus v12 ramdisk because it keeps Chucking errors at me please pm me asap as I need to extract to put the WiFi modules in and change a few things
well i have extracted it its using another format for ramdisk(bot the normal gzip)
i dont have the link i used to know how to extract but if you search a bit you will find it
(i dont have the extracted ramdisk because i have deleted my compiler machine from virtualbox)
DiKeJ said:
There will be 4 main Kernels from DXEngine:
-2 for X10 (GB and JB)
-2 for Play (GB and ICS/JB)
But it's not over, cause each main project will have other version with other destination - for example with some features disabled, but better in performance etc. etc. Justin (@extremetempz) is main Kernel Developer for my ROM projects so all credits goes to him - I focused on ROMs to make it best stable and settled with Kernels - trust me, it should do the job .
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Awesome. Hey DikeJ I hope you and extremetempz dont me offering to beta test this kernel for you. I am on GB currently debloated stock on Lupus Kernel v12. Would love to test out this kernel if you wanted to have someone test it out. Either way I am excited to see this new kernel whether I beta test it or not.
Thank you both of you for your hard work and efforts to keep our little device humming along.

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