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[Q] question about new custom roms

hi, i want some help with it!
actually i have cyanogenmod gingerbread 2.3.7 with kernel 2.6.29 , by mur4ik
but now i have heard that he is not making or working on it anymore and there are another guys making new things with 2.3.7 for example the swiftdroid second life, or the custom rom made by pete and his friend.
i wanted to know if these ones are better versions than the one i have, or if they are behind it, and if those two are newer and better versions, wich one would you recommend for lg gt 540?,
and another thing, they talk a lot about kernels, really the mur4ik rom i installed was like a package so i really didn't even care about it
but now that are talking about it and wanted to know what is it , and why is better one or another
i heard some of the guys want to puto a .31 kernel instead a .29 and things like that, and well, i really don't know it so well
help with that please, thanks!

Well for kernels look it up on Google a bit too long to explain it here.
For l android 2.1 the best kernel to be used is .29 kernel for 2.2 it would be the .32 kernel and for 2.3 and 4.0(ics) it would be the .35/.38 or 3.0 kernel
As for roms you are using swiftdroid so keep it or then next best thing would be any 2.2 rom I recommend project Utopia but if I where you I will wait for Mike's asop 2.3.7 v6 to come out

I sure am waiting for V6 mike's rom.
For the looks of it i am waiting for mike´s rom V6 it should be fast and stable, just hoping he releases it ASAP....

try Pebe 2.3.7 v5.1 rom, im using it and its quite good!

Yes, the last pcf cm7 (.32) is very good. The only thing that it ends with the battery much faster than for example in pcf aosp 2.2.2 (.32)

Froyo optimum is great too
Amazing battery life and so smooth
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sorry to be so silly but,
mike = muraik?
the last one i have from him is v2.0 rc5 swiftdroid based on mur4ik
exactly which one of mike are you telling me about?
if you can post the link to the thread, that'd be nice.

Facuu said:
sorry to be so silly but,
mike = muraik?
the last one i have from him is v2.0 rc5 swiftdroid based on mur4ik
exactly which one of mike are you telling me about?
if you can post the link to the thread, that'd be nice.
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Mike =/= mur4ik...
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andreas__ said:
Mike =/= mur4ik...
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And Mikes ROMs are in development section like : (roms) all Mikegapinski ROMs in one place
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BEST roms for SGS1(ICS+2.3.X). recommended kernels and more! *HOT* updated 4/25

ok so here im gonna give you guys the recomended roms and top 5 rom list for Samsung galaxy S1 ONLY! (based roms on ICS and 2.3.X)
THE BEST rom was chosen by considering ALL your needs: speed, design, good battery life, A LOT of features+settings+oc costum settings, updated.
for the full information of all the roms' features and full rating go to www.topgalaxyroms.webs.com this is a very good useful site with good information! very good site! this is very helpful and I took my new room from their very happy!
update! ive added my own experience for each rom during the last month..
update- the website has just updated! new information check this out (4/25)
TOP 5 roms (ICS)
AOKP rom (im using this now. my own experience- very good+stable rom.. a lot of settings)
Doc's Master ICS 4.0.3 (stable+fast.. have a lot of settings too)
gummy (never checked it)
MyICS (my own experience- have some annoying bugs and not so good)
Dark night ROM (not so fast and have some bugs)
top 4 roms (2.3.X)
CM7 (my own experience- so fast+ stable system+ a lot of settings!!)
MIUI (never checked it)
gamerz rom (my own experience-very fast and stable rom!)
F1 Galaxy S (my own experience- fast+ stable rom )
top 3 kernels (ICS)
devil (my own experience- very good kernel, stable make your rom be faster+ bigman options!)
midnight (never checked this)
glitch (my own experience- has some bugs whenever enabling bigman function)
top 2 kernels (2.3.X)
semaphore (my own experience- very good kernel make your rom faster and good OC)!
glitch (my own experience- made little problems with my rom)
please note:
*roms with bugs are non included neither here nor the website. example:CM9 has a lot of bugs(http://teamhacksung.org/wiki/index.php/Experimental:GT-I9000:Known_issues) so that's why he is not included here for those who wondered..
according to the website, ALL the roms (both for ICS +2.3.X) have been checked and NO BUGS HAVE BEEN FOUND AND THE ROMS ARE TOTALLY STABLE
i am using docs master 1 month so far and its amazing!
so i know this website includes true information.
and you should go to this site for the full rom list, full comparsion, checking and more..
good luck!!

Hey dude, you forgot cm9 the most important & slim ics

Cm9 is best rom for sgs. No another way. Aokp is following it.
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Slim ICS 3.3

I think CM9 should be in the list!
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Why dont u include stock samsung rom in the poll? Its the best. combined with a good kernel and some tweaks.

where is ICSSGS RC4.2 ?

This poll is fail. You forgot several ROMs.

Elite v10
Nuff said

Ha ha No CM9 present in the poll.
CM9 + Devil 0.72 + KB3 (flawless)

ravebot said:
Ha ha No CM9 present in the poll.
CM9 + Devil 0.72 + KB3 (flawless)
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No, CM9 + devil 0.73 test version with swap is awesome

This is the stupidest thread ever made.
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This list is totally wrong...
Semaphore ICS is great, Saurom is one if the best GB from and WeIUI is top ICS rom.
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Kthulhu_ESP said:
This list is totally wrong...
Semaphore ICS is great, Saurom is one if the best GB from and WeIUI is top ICS rom.
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Llloooollll
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ICS ROM: CNA
ICS KERNEL: DEVIL
GB ROM: DARKYS ROM 10.4.2 OR JW4
GB KERNEL: SEMAPHORE
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timpuri_noi said:
This is the stupidest thread ever made.
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True.

What is the definition of "true information" and "all roms are bug free and totally stable"?
(from OP)
Reading some posts in the threads for those roms/kernels makes me wonder...
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Slim ICS is the Best

well I did not put CM9 cuz as far as I know, CM9 rom includes a lot of bugs doesn't it?
and Ive tried a lot of roms from here too
and if something is wrong- ill fix it

Some are running CM9 without "many" bugs. some say it's even stable enough to show to your friends.
On that bombshell everyone runs whatever they see fit, and just "cruising" through the DEV section one should make a pretty good idea what is being in the top used ROMs.
There is no this is better than this, for 80% of ppl owning a SGS1 probably what was pre-installed on their phone was better than it was for the rest of us "kids" playing with fire. From experience I tell you that what works for you is the best ROM - heck there are still strong supporters of FROYO (if you know what I mean ).

New to the Defy - most recent stable rom

Hi,
I've picked up a motorola defy, and am wondering what is the most recent e.g ICS, rom that is stable and everything works?
So far i've rooted the phone and that's about it.
It's a 2.51 UK phone.
I'm familiar with the HTC Desire S roms, but haven't a clue when it comes to the Defy.
I've searched through the dev forum, but can't quite get an indication of what's what.
Sorry for the noob question.
Thanks for any replies.

Did you maybe already found out if it has green (SOC) lens or red (bayer) lens camera module? SOC only works on Froyo kernels, while bayer works on both Froyo and Gingerbread kernels. (Which is not of great importance, cause almost all ROM's are available for both kernels)
Anyways... What do you like? Here are some of my recommendations...
For MIUI v2 - Pikachu MIUI (WIUI comes 2nd, as Pikachu had fewer bugs for me and was overall snappier)
For MIUI v4 - WIUI v4
For CM7(.2) - maniac103's builds or FuZZ's KANG's - almost the same, but details do make them different
For CM9 - Epsylon3 made the latest CM9 builds with the final fixes and touches
For AOKP ICS - There's a Milestone 6 coming up soon, built by Kayant (he's building from source, port's can't compare with that)
For JellyBean - I must say I would recommend ParanoidAndroid, which is based on CMX, but somehow manages to be snappier and much better at RAM management. AOKP JP alpha is snappy, too, when compared to CMX. Although the CMX I'm talking about is the one build by Quarx, but people do say tha Epsylon's builts are better performance-wise.

Thanks.
From the looks of my lens it's bayer.
Are any of those roms a default/minimal ice cream sandwich? That's all i'm after really, as I guess jelly bean will have loads of stuff not working correctly yet.

Actually CM10 is working as good as CM9, maybe better. But I must say, I switched to CM10 since the 2nd nightly, and never went back to CM9, so maybe there was an improvement since that in CM9 nightlys...
But you should try them all and choose which you like
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x0149128 said:
Thanks.
From the looks of my lens it's bayer.
Are any of those roms a default/minimal ice cream sandwich? That's all i'm after really, as I guess jelly bean will have loads of stuff not working correctly yet.
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When you say minimal, I'm assuming you mean feature-wise, not GUI-wise, so I guess the best choice for you would be to wait up for AOSP Jelly Bean which Kayant is trying to build from source here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824551
If you don't want Jelly Bean, but ICS, then I think this is the way to go - CM9 Moto Ice Gun - http://www.custom-android.de/portfolio/cm9-motoicegun-edition/ (you can find it in the defy development forum, too). Most of the guys who tested it claim that it's the fastest ICS ROM for the Defy.

niksy+ said:
When you say minimal, I'm assuming you mean feature-wise, not GUI-wise, so I guess the best choice for you would be to wait up for AOSP Jelly Bean which Kayant is trying to build from source here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824551
If you don't want Jelly Bean, but ICS, then I think this is the way to go - CM9 Moto Ice Gun - http://www.custom-android.de/portfolio/cm9-motoicegun-edition/ (you can find it in the defy development forum, too). Most of the guys who tested it claim that it's the fastest ICS ROM for the Defy.
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i still think , that CM9 is the most stable rom for defy
CM9 is fatser then GB , ICS if definitely better then GB in all terms
so a recent stable rom - CM9 .
but in near future , if TI releases proper SGX drivers for our devices .. then , m sure CM10 will be the most stable rom for defy .

IMHO I would choose CM10
What Kayant is doing isn't pure AOSP. It has some fixes!
I was talking with Quarx recently and he said that CM10 is very similar to pure AOSP..so trust me...go CM10
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I've given AOKP ICS milestone 5 a go.
Seems to be lacking polish compared to the HTC ICS roms with sense 3.6 - I guess that's something i'm going to have to get used to. I don't like his boot screen either.
When I say minimal i mean without a bunch of pre-installed stuff like games, twitter etc..

Boot screen can be changed for one you like
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x0149128 said:
I've given AOKP ICS milestone 5 a go.
Seems to be lacking polish compared to the HTC ICS roms with sense 3.6 - I guess that's something i'm going to have to get used to. I don't like his boot screen either.
When I say minimal i mean without a bunch of pre-installed stuff like games, twitter etc..
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All ROMs are minimal then!
They come only with essential apps preinstalled (DSP manager, HWA Settings and FM Radio) + default ROM ones (phone..camera...you know)
This is app set up for CM10
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Go for cm10
Go for CM10..i have been using it since the first nightly of quarx..
i would recommend you to try quarx builds ...because it is updated frequently..

go for pa 2.0. It is stable

Walking dead said:
go for pa 2.0. It is stable
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Pa 2.0 is based on Quarx ROMs!
Plus Pa doesn't have working tether like Quarx build
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ppero196 said:
Pa 2.0 is based on Quarx ROMs!
Plus Pa doesn't have working tether like Quarx build
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I can't have working tether since CM9 from Quarx or E....
I don't know whether I'm using BL6 kernel (2.3.6) on Defy which cause this problem.
Also, since CM9, I can't play myTV (apps from TVB) live broadcast.
Anyone can help to try it on your CM9/10? Here is the apps:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quickplay.tvbmytv

Quarx,no doubt, he develops this. Anyways, if it includes some apps you don't want or some to add simply do this with an archiver manager on computer...

Hi all!
What stable ROM do you guys recommend for Defy green lens? I recently installed the most stable CM7 and I like but there are some thing I don't quite like, like the incompatibility with Titanium backup, the vibration issue for notifications, and the battery life didn't improve significantly. So, I am looking for the one but without having to flash 7-8 roms, that where you guys coming in, which rom out there is the best and stable for defy green lens?
And if you could include a download link would be great, because I encountered so many sites with links and versions and rom and kernels, and this and that, that is confusing for a newbie like me.
Thank you!

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act_tony said:
Hi all!
What stable ROM do you guys recommend for Defy green lens? I recently installed the most stable CM7 and I like but there are some thing I don't quite like, like the incompatibility with Titanium backup, the vibration issue for notifications, and the battery life didn't improve significantly. So, I am looking for the one but without having to flash 7-8 roms, that where you guys coming in, which rom out there is the best and stable for defy green lens?
And if you could include a download link would be great, because I encountered so many sites with links and versions and rom and kernels, and this and that, that is confusing for a newbie like me.
Thank you!
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You could try with cm11, goes very well, but has some bugs with bluetooth, calls and other stuff, you could try the 20-01-14 build, or you can try the latest build of cm10.2 by quarx
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DiegoxG said:
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You could try with cm11, goes very well, but has some bugs with bluetooth, calls and other stuff, you could try the 20-01-14 build, or you can try the latest build of cm10.2 by quarx
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Thank you for your answer. I will try that. I have another issue though last night I charged my phone, today it was at 98% well I went online to check my email and the battery went from 98% to 5% like in 7 minutes, and the main reason I flashing my phone was because battery life, I guess the joke was on me! :crying:

act_tony said:
Thank you for your answer. I will try that. I have another issue though last night I charged my phone, today it was at 98% well I went online to check my email and the battery went from 98% to 5% like in 7 minutes, and the main reason I flashing my phone was because battery life, I guess the joke was on me! :crying:
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I think your battery is quite old, or give the try to cm11 or 10.2 and tell us

DiegoxG said:
I think your battery is quite old, or give the try to cm11 or 10.2 and tell us
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Both, lol, my battery is 2+ years old and I should try CM10.
From all the CM10 and 11 what version is the most stable? If I flash it could I go back to stock eventually? (keep in mind that I have a Defy green lens) because if these custom roms don't work quite as smooth I think I'm going to ended up flashing the stock rom.
Diego, Thanx for all the help!

What a the most different ics and gingerbread?..

What the best ics feature that we cant find in gingerbread?..
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Android version :banghead:
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I use gingerdx now.. so do you think i need to upadte to ics or just stay in gigerdx.. ty for answer..
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New kernel (not on our device ), hardware acceleration, new UI and ofc lots of improvements...

The biggest difference is the UI..
Once you use ICS you will begin to love its UI..

On our phones ? Not much. Try getting a phone like, lets say an S2 or a Nexus S which had both GB and ICS and you will see the difference

nothing special really.. but of course eye-candy improve a lot in ics but performance is indeed lower..
Bootloader Unlocked + nAa 14 + PrimeHd 10.0 + Cypress Digitizer + 787Mhz Overclocked + 8Gb Class 4 = 894 Antutu 3d Score + 2688 Antutu Benchmark

Hope developers will made nAa or Alfs kernel with 192mb of ram too or more,like in JB!:laugh:

The firmware version and the ui

..
the biggest difference is in performance

2010matej said:
Hope developers will made nAa or Alfs kernel with 192mb of ram too or more,like in JB!:laugh:
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I test naa ics and jb, have 185 & 186 respectively, and alfs v9c have 187 mb of ram. This isnt better in jb, because of huge usage of RAM on a fat ROM.
The cause of many ppl use ics or jb is the ui, the best, but on our phone its slow. Even better a gingerbread rom with jb ui: GingerDX, smooth and beautifull :thumbup:

gingerbread and ics differences
the differences is:
1.the firmware and the UI
2.the kernel which kernel are u use????(stock,alfs,nAa and anastasia)
3.the launcher
4.the apps install(sometimes walkman ics not work on my gingerbread)
5.name(of course )
6. the android version(u can type the android 4 times to check the differences between them)
7.gb is heavier than ics(without custom kernel u cant try ics like a boss)
8.busybox(my friend told me if busybox for ics minimum is over 800kb and gingerbread is over 650kb :v )
hope if it's useful :highfive::good:

handy911 said:
the differences is:
1.the firmware and the UI
2.the kernel which kernel are u use????(stock,alfs,nAa and anastasia)
3.the launcher
4.the apps install(sometimes walkman ics not work on my gingerbread)
5.name(of course )
6. the android version(u can type the android 4 times to check the differences between them)
7.gb is heavier than ics(without custom kernel u cant try ics like a boss)
8.busybox(my friend told me if busybox for ics minimum is over 800kb and gingerbread is over 650kb :v )
hope if it's useful :highfive::good:
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anastasia kernel...dafuq:laugh:

fotak-x said:
anastasia kernel...dafuq:laugh:
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And "gb is heavier than ics"

Lajbymester said:
And "gb is heavier than ics"
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aaaaaaaaaand size of busybox binary....in kb

handy911 said:
6. (u can type the android 4 times to check the differences between them)
hope if it's useful :highfive::good:
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Aaaaaaaand this^^(bold text)
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This thread should be closed. You can compare sources to find the difference.

Gogeta said:
Aaaaaaaand this^^(bold text)
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he meant go to settings->>about phone and then keep tapping on the android version and then see the magic..

Everything is different. Check githubs to find out what.
Thread closed.

Poll [JB kernel] multiboot or not

Well since we are working on many JB roms for GSM/CDMA for better JB roms,i m in doubt what users think..so i m gonna keep this real simple:
do you prefer a multiboot kernel like:
lupusJB v8 480p
turbo kernel 3.1
or lupus JBv13?:cyclops:
this might give an idea to @wedgess or @DiKeJ when updating a new JB kernel with no 4.2.2 support.

smokerman said:
Well since we are working on many JB roms for GSM/CDMA for better JB roms,i m in doubt what users think..so i m gonna keep this real simple:
do you prefer a multiboot kernel like:
lupusJB v8 480p
turbo kernel 3.1
or lupus JBv13?:cyclops:
this might give an idea to @wedgess or @DiKeJ when updating a new JB kernel with no 4.2.2 support.
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in my opinion ... A no multiboot kernel would be better ..
would ensure more compatibility .. and less complicated for users notavos .. (Would save a lot of silly questions to answer) jejej ..
light a future release of a 4.2 kernel ... not so charged (without many Governors and other things) would be great ..
By the way @ smokerman .. going to be possible in a future kernel to 4.3?? and reach some stable rom? sorry if this is a dumb question on my part ..

Honestly I'd rather use a multiboot kernel like lupus v8 or turbo kernel. It's easier for testing Roms and seeing what you want to use and if you want different themed Roms much easier. The only reason I'm on lupus v13 is because I'm stuck on it lol
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Honestly I prefer to have multiboot capability like turbo 3.1 jb ICS (cm9) ICS (stock) and GB its great. and easy to swap out Roms while on the move and you can't always flash a kernel just MHO
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For testing it is really useful to have multiboot (even if we need a good sdcard to use it, with a class 4 sd it is unasable for example), but to keep the things simple IMHO is better to not have it
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@smokerman, on second thought, it would be better if multiboot kernel. But that is compatible with GB / ICS / JB (as Turbo kernel) .. or just GB / JB if possible .. then you could use (GB) rom gaming, and (JB) and cell rom .. hehe

In my case I prefer a non-multiboot kernel, because I think that the compatibility would be better and I also would like to be able to record in 720p. I can also understand people who wants a multiboot kernel, because is a useful thing, but as I don't use it to much I prefer it not to be multiboot
Enviado desde mi Xperia Play

yekasangredevago said:
light a future release of a 4.2 kernel ... not so charged (without many Governors and other things) would be great ..
By the way @ smokerman .. going to be possible in a future kernel to 4.3?? and reach some stable rom? sorry if this is a dumb question on my part ..
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i find hard to have a fully 4.2.2 rom/kernel working for play (touchpads/gamepads included)..we simply dont have that many devs working here..they move on to other new xperia 2013 series..so we gonna be at 4.1.2 and its good as we have many roms with all features for our phone..(touchpads still lag on JB ,but i use 99%gamepads so for me its fine JB roms).
a dedicated kernel its always better for hard gamers..performance is the main reason..on JB i prefer multiboot..different partitions,other roms (GB,ICS,CM9) we have the top of the kernels..altough is highly recommended you have a class10 sd card..or else you gonna be hurting performance.:good:

smokerman said:
i find hard to have a fully 4.2.2 rom/kernel working for play (touchpads/gamepads included)..we simply dont have that many devs working here..they move on to other new xperia 2013 series..so we gonna be at 4.1.2 and its good as we have many roms with all features for our phone..(touchpads still lag on JB ,but i use 99%gamepads so for me its fine JB roms).
a dedicated kernel its always better for hard gamers..performance is the main reason..on JB i prefer multiboot..different partitions,other roms (GB,ICS,CM9) we have the top of the kernels..altough is highly recommended you have a class10 sd card..or else you gonna be hurting performance.:good:
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if you have a core reason .. multiboot is much better. would be great if someone could solve even the touchpad error in GB (for turbo kernel 3.1) as usage in GB (PsPocket) and the gaming performance is much better .. but hey up to you developers that happen ..
Thanks for all your work for Xperia Play, and keep him alive a while longer ..