Any idea if the Nexus 10 will support BLE with 4.3 ? ... I dont know if im misinformed or something i was reading , and watches some videos about it and they talk about the update bringing BLE to Nexus 4 and The New Nexus 7, nothing about OG N7 , N10 or the GNEX.
nalrodriguez said:
Any idea if the Nexus 10 will support BLE with 4.3 ? ... I dont know if im misinformed or something i was reading , and watches some videos about it and they talk about the update bringing BLE to Nexus 4 and The New Nexus 7, nothing about OG N7 , N10 or the GNEX.
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Since no one seems to have a clue: I tested this with my Nexus 10. Updated to 4.3 and tried to pair it with a TI SensorKit. No success.
If someone still wants to know: No BLE for Nexus 10
Johnnycube said:
Since no one seems to have a clue: I tested this with my Nexus 10. Updated to 4.3 and tried to pair it with a TI SensorKit. No success.
If someone still wants to know: No BLE for Nexus 10
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To elaborate on this, bluetooth pairing is different from BLE pairing, so you don't see BLE devices in the android bluetooth pairing screen.
However, you are right to say that the Nexus 10 has no BLE: I am currently developing a BLE application and while it discovers BLE devices when running on the Nexus 4, it doesn't when running on the Nexus 10.
So I guess the hardware is not present, but there is also no runtime error that says so.
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Other flagships have hardware that support this - does the Nexus and is Android 4.2 likely to support it? (4.1 does not).
Why is it useful? Well if you use a heart rate monitor for sports, it will last longer. It can also be used to connect devices.
It's a huge feature for me as a runner. Currently I use a Garmin 305 which is an awesome, if ugly, product. With apps like strava / endomondo and more, it would be nice to have all this, with GPS and music on one device
I believe Bluetooth 4.0 is present on this device. Check the spec sheet on Google Play, but I'm 99.99% sure.
The hardware is present for Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) but as yet, no version of Android supports it.
There is an issue thread on google regarding this - if people star it google might treat the issue as a priority.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
I think google is looking to NFC for nearfield communication forgetting some of the cool uses bluetooth can be put to.
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The hardware is present for Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) but as yet, no version of Android supports it.
There is an issue thread on google regarding this - if people star it google might treat the issue as a priority.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
I think google is looking to NFC for nearfield communication forgetting some of the cool uses bluetooth can be put to.
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The Broadcom BCM4330 supports BTLE (http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s549642), and according to this website: http://www.ubmtechinsights.com/repo...market-reports/Report-Profile/?ReportKey=8713
The LG Optimus G uses that Broadcom chip, so it's possible that the Nexus 4 also uses it?
According to the newly updated Android 4.2 changelog: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html
Android 4.2 introduces a new Bluetooth stack optimized for use with Android devices. The new Bluetooth stack developed in collaboration between Google and Broadcom replaces the stack based on BlueZ and provides improved compatibility and reliability.
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I sure hope that we will have BTLE support with the Nexus 4. I really want to buy a Polar H7 HRM!
I'm glad someone else is concerned
It doesn't look too good. Although they have rewritten the stack, there is no mention of Bluetooth Low Energy or Bluetooth Smart.
Apart from the issue raised with google in my first post, I have no idea how to reach out to them regarding this. Does anyone know? This is Android general rather than device specific. Pretty much all the new handsets have hardware that support BLE but there is no OS support in Android
At last - some hope. Although there is no ETA, looks like we can hope for BLE support in Android 4.3
"BLE will be the next major feature we are going to add."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/android-platform/CYtxCmtZ-WI/aIzBq7KbKVUJ
Any updates on the BLE support? I am working on a BLE breakout board and would like to get it working with the Nexus 4 rather than just the computer via a dongle. From what I've found online there is a BLE stack in 4.2, yet for some reason I can't find it or get anything to work.
What exactly would this do? I understand the low energy stuff, but I don't see what else it has, and whether we have to enable it first, or something.
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What exactly would this do? I understand the low energy stuff, but I don't see what else it has, and whether we have to enable it first, or something.
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BLE is a wireless protocol that peripheral devices can use to interface with your phone. Somewhat similar to regular bluetooth (and other proprietary wireless links), it can allow a sensor to wirelessly stream data or allow a phone to control a robot or any other device with BLE. I'm not sure if that answers your question. The real benefit is that BLE uses significantly less power (upon other things) and thus can enable a new set of devices. For example, part of my dissertation is a cardiac monitoring system which I would like to connect to my Nexus 4.
Any news?
Hi guys,
Are there any news on Bluetooth 4.0 / smart ready on the Nexus 4 and maybe 4.2.2 yet?
Was someone already able to pair the Nexus 4 with the Polar H7?
Maybe I'll order one and try if it works by now.
Thanks for your answers anyway. :good:
I have the same question about BLE.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
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Other flagships have hardware that support this - does the Nexus and is Android 4.2 likely to support it? (4.1 does not).
Why is it useful? Well if you use a heart rate monitor for sports, it will last longer. It can also be used to connect devices.
It's a huge feature for me as a runner. Currently I use a Garmin 305 which is an awesome, if ugly, product. With apps like strava / endomondo and more, it would be nice to have all this, with GPS and music on one device
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+1
Would love to play with the Stick-n-Find and/or Meterplug. And upgrade my Fitbit to the Bluetooth 4.0 version so I don't have to keep plugging that stupid dongle into my laptop.
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Would love to play with the Stick-n-Find and/or Meterplug. And upgrade my Fitbit to the Bluetooth 4.0 version so I don't have to keep plugging that stupid dongle into my laptop.
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Arrrghg - your post is what I found when searching for Fitbit, which I just bought. Very frustrating our N4's can't support the BT connection yet. I also hate that stupid dongle!
The new Fitbits use BLE too? Wow, Google need to get Android caught up, really never expect them to be behind with technologies.
So, should I send my H7 back, or wait???
Google finally started looking into BLE two days ago. See the bottom of this page:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
oren_b said:
Google finally started looking into BLE two days ago. See the bottom of this page:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
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Added my vote to get them to acknowledge this. Amazing that nothing has been done yet.
id628 said:
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Would love to play with the Stick-n-Find and/or Meterplug. And upgrade my Fitbit to the Bluetooth 4.0 version so I don't have to keep plugging that stupid dongle into my laptop.
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Arrrghg - your post is what I found when searching for Fitbit, which I just bought. Very frustrating our N4's can't support the BT connection yet. I also hate that stupid dongle!
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AndyCr15 said:
The new Fitbits use BLE too? Wow, Google need to get Android caught up, really never expect them to be behind with technologies.
So, should I send my H7 back, or wait???
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I just bought a Fitbit One which uses BLE. I'm with you guys in hoping Google gets this feature added and supported very soon. It would be really nice!
This will be addressed with K release.
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I wonder which one will come out first. The Fitbit Flex or a Nexus 4 update with BLE.
I'm hoping it's coming soon, I just ordered a bunch of Motes to instrument my house...
http://igg.me/at/motes/x/1655370
danny.ffm said:
Hi guys,
Are there any news on Bluetooth 4.0 / smart ready on the Nexus 4 and maybe 4.2.2 yet?
Was someone already able to pair the Nexus 4 with the Polar H7?
Maybe I'll order one and try if it works by now.
Thanks for your answers anyway. :good:
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Does the device with android 4.2 need to have a special chip set to do the new wireless HDMI out? Also what is this adapter that I need? I can't find very much information on this, seems like I'm the only one excited about this...
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I would hold off on buying an adapter.It seems only the nexus 4 gets miracast from the 4.2 update.Maybe one day we will see it on the N7 but for now nobody has shown it working on anything.
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I would hold off on buying an adapter.It seems only the nexus 4 gets miracast from the 4.2 update.Maybe one day we will see it on the N7 but for now nobody has shown it working on anything.
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Actually its been done using a Raspberry Pi
Hey guys,
has anybody experience with Miracast on the Nexus 10 or Android 4.2? I'm going to get an Adapter for my TV and I'm not sure how that works... haven't found any Miracast-related options in the settings app, and I don't know how the whole stuff with wifi is working (is the bandwidth of wifi high enough for that high resolution? How will the Nexus scale its 2650px down to the 1920 of my TV? ...).
Thanks
Currently nexus 10 is not miracast capable. Many people think it will be later, but since there might be bus bandwith issues i dont think it will.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
Check this thread out if you want to learn more: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989513
Practical testing: Miracast with Nexus 10
There was quite of bit of discussion/speculation back on Nov-Dec on whether, how, and when Nexus 10 would support Miracast. I recently did some testing to support an app I'm developing, and wanted to: give an update on practical test results, and see if anyone has any further information (since none is forthcoming from google so far).
I tested Miracast links using Netgear's PTV3000 (Push2TV):
Samsung S3 - WORKS, after an upgrade to their latest PTV3000 firmware (v.2.2.9)
Google Nexus 10 - Does not work.
Google Galaxy Nexus - Does not work.
This is consistent with a recent posting on AndroidCentral ("Netgear PTV3000 gets a firmware update, now officially supports host of Android devices"). I'm interested in running on as many devices as possible, including the Nexus tablets and phones, but still can't find any information on plans and timing for Nexus 10, for example.
Anyone?
Hi everyone, I have a quick question and haven't been able to find the answer anywhere.
I just got the update to 4.3 last night on my Nexus 7. I forgot to check about Miracast support. I usually leave it at home for my wife and daughter and take my Nexus 10 to work.
I know the Nexus 10 got Miracast support with 4.3, but I need to know about the Nexus 7 and don't have it here to check. Can someone let me know?
Trying to swing by Best Buy on the way home and pick up the Netgear PTV3000
Thanks.
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Hi everyone, I have a quick question and haven't been able to find the answer anywhere.
I just got the update to 4.3 last night on my Nexus 7. I forgot to check about Miracast support. I usually leave it at home for my wife and daughter and take my Nexus 10 to work.
I know the Nexus 10 got Miracast support with 4.3, but I need to know about the Nexus 7 and don't have it here to check. Can someone let me know?
Trying to swing by Best Buy on the way home and pick up the Netgear PTV3000
Thanks.
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Only Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2013), and Nexus 10 have Miracast Support.
https://support.google.com/nexus/7/answer/2865484?hl=en
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Only Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2013), and Nexus 10 have Miracast Support.
https://support.google.com/nexus/7/answer/2865484?hl=en
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That's some BS. Do you know of any mods or ROMs that have added the support yet?
There is already a working Miracast rom, but people/dev don't seem to be interested, so I don't think this rom will be include it to the other popular rom out there for the Nexus 7 (2012).
Original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348991
I think some one got it working on PTV3000, if you read the Youtube comment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KNEmaIr3FEg
Here is a 3D gaming I asked him to test out, just in case some one wanna know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20s567tzTdM&feature=player_detailpage&t=316
Here is the rom site for it:
https://github.com/kensuke/How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki/Ota-packages
I don't have a Miracast receiver to test it out, but people who do can test it out.
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That's some BS. Do you know of any mods or ROMs that have added the support yet?
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It's not BS, because I answered your question with quotes. You didn't mention custom roms in OP.
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It's not BS, because I answered your question with quotes. You didn't mention custom roms in OP.
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Hahaha. I wasn't saying your answer was BS. I was saying that Google not including it in the 4.3 update for the N7 was BS.
There is already a working Miracast rom, but people/dev don't seem to be interested, so I don't think this rom will be include it to the other popular rom out there for the Nexus 7 (2012).
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This I never understood, why is that? I would have thought developers would have been right on to this. But kensuke has shown it is possible.
And watching the videos I think it's fantastic. Yes the gaming one had a bit of latency, but it looked minimal. Afaik, other devices (n4, n10) that officially support miracast have similar latency so I don't see why the n7 wasn't officially supported. I'm way more excited about this than chromecast which everyone seems to be freaking over.
I had a look at kensuke's page hoping for news on this being in 4.3 and saw this:
""Remove all traces of wifi display sink implementation and supporting code." "
Sink implementation means that a miracast device can act as a host. So you could miracast from one nexus 7 device to another.
But google has removed sink implementation in 4.3 source! Why would they do that?
Not that I would use the sink feature al the time, but it could be cool where you are trying to demo something to someone, they could just connect to your device and show them. I could think of lots of cool features with that, but for whatever reason, google has removed that code.
Yes the code is there in 4.2.2 but I imagine trying to put old code back can be difficult.
I read that from here:
https://github.com/kensuke/How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki/Android-4.3
I hope he's successful in getting miracast to work in 4.3 and I also hope he can reimplement the sink feature but again, I understand that may be difficult because of google removing it.
When I saw the gaming video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20s567tzTdM&feature=player_detailpage&t=316
I noticed how good the picture was. It made me wonder if there was anything in the miracast spec on performance/quality settings. When miracasting a movie I'd want the highest quality and wouldn't mind latency, but with a game or any realtime app, the less latency the better. I wonder if encoding at a lower bit rate would help tackle the latency? Maybe not as it's hardware encoding the steam and it's the onboard encoder chip and not the settings that would influence latency.
Thanks to kensuke for his efforts. I'm still somewhat surprised that it's taken this long for a developer to attempt to tackle this.
And I really hope other devs would show interest and incorporate this into their roms.
Im really surprised to see that no developer other than kensuke is interested about miracast support in nexus 7. This would be the best Customization ever done for nexus 7. A lot of people would be loving to have this feature yet there is only one rom which kensuke made for only miracast test purposes. It can not be ported to 4.3? - dont mind using 4.2.2 until i upgrade to 2013 nexus 7.
Devs hear us out!
Hi guys. Yesterday i bougth SONY TV with miracast feature. Can i use mentioned ROM to mirror screen of my N7 to SONY TV. I am still using Parandroid ROM(v.3.60) based on JB 4.2.2. Do i need to flash whole new ROM or there is any script or application that i can use?
aLPaSLaN07 said:
Im really surprised to see that no developer other than kensuke is interested about miracast support in nexus 7. This would be the best Customization ever done for nexus 7. A lot of people would be loving to have this feature yet there is only one rom which kensuke made for only miracast test purposes. It can not be ported to 4.3? - dont mind using 4.2.2 until i upgrade to 2013 nexus 7.
Devs hear us out!
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He talks about the sync issues at Github.
https://github.com/kensuke/How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki/Android-4.3
Also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44703331&postcount=57
As the title states, I currently having problems with a Nexus 7 2012 tablet running CM11 and trying to pair over bluetooth, a FitBit Flex.
From what I understand, the fitbit flex requires Bluetooth 4.0 and BLE support, which the Nexus 7 2012 has the hardware for. The stock rom doesn't have the necessary driver/software to use BLE, however I heard CM10.2 enables BLE support.
I also understand the fitbit app only works with certain devices; however someone has modified the app and provided the apk here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2492436 (I tried 1.9.4 and 1.9.1)
Can anyone confirm that CM11 still provides BLE support on the Nexus 7 2012?
Is there a way I can check if BLE is working on the Nexus 7 2012?
Has anyone got the FitBit Flex working on a Nexus 7 2012?
I can swap the rom again if needed. I just loaded CM11 from the stock (OTA updated) 4.4 rom. I just figured why not go to 11 rather than get 10.2.
Thanks.
Anyone even have a suggestion on a way to see if I correctly enabled bluetooth 4.0's BLE support on the device?