Does the device with android 4.2 need to have a special chip set to do the new wireless HDMI out? Also what is this adapter that I need? I can't find very much information on this, seems like I'm the only one excited about this...
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I would hold off on buying an adapter.It seems only the nexus 4 gets miracast from the 4.2 update.Maybe one day we will see it on the N7 but for now nobody has shown it working on anything.
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I would hold off on buying an adapter.It seems only the nexus 4 gets miracast from the 4.2 update.Maybe one day we will see it on the N7 but for now nobody has shown it working on anything.
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Actually its been done using a Raspberry Pi
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In articles released today, Nvidia said the Tegra 3 chipset will support miracast (an open streaming tech similar to DLNA) for mirroing/streaming to other devices/ monitors. Will the Nexus support this and would this be their workaround for forgoing the MHL/HDMI? Or would it only be on future models? -Ara
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In articles released today, Nvidia said the Tegra 3 chipset will support miracast (an open streaming tech similar to DLNA) for mirroing/streaming to other devices/ monitors. Will the Nexus support this and would this be their workaround for forgoing the MHL/HDMI? Or would it only be on future models? -Ara
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I'm very curious about this too.
I've looked into this briefly and from what I gather, any device that supports WIFI direct should be able to do this. I think I read somewhere that the N7 has wifi direct. Miracast is only a standard. There are other non-standard devices out there that can also do the same thing, but requires changes to the core android files.
Search for xbounds on youtube and the internet. You will see some demos of it. it requires an hdmi dongle that has wifi on it that communicates with your device.
In any event, if the N7 doesn't support miracast, it will support xbounds via a custom ROM (if and when somebody decides to build a custom ROM with xbounds integrated). Then all that is required is the xbounds dongle. Unfortunately, there is not much information on xbounds and when it will be released.
What would I need to purchase to get this working?
Hopefully, we don't need to buy stuff, we just need to update our devices when miracast comes down. There's a list of compatible devices on the Wi-Fi Alliance website. -Ara
EDIT: here's a link to the tegra explanation of miracast, taken from an article on the issue. Yeah, a dangle may be involved depending on the setup. http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/tegra_white_papers/tegra-miracast-whitepaper-final.pdf
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I've not found any hardware that you could plug into say an HTML Monitor that will work with this yet. I do think it will be coming available soon though.
hope so
I reckon it will work with a Nexus 7. Hopefully the dongle isn't too expensive and my Nexus 7 will be my new PSone.
Shouldn't need a dongle. Maybe a Raspberry Pi but everyone should have one of those anyway Search "Android Transporter" for more info.
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Nexus Q might get Miracast support
Nexus 7 and most Tegra 3 (also Galaxy S3) phones/tablets can get a fw upgrade to enable miracast (most that support WIFI Direct probably can have Miracast enabled).
Now that google is having another round of tinkering on the Nexus Q before release we might end up with Miracast support in it as well.
Personaly I think Miracast will be added out of the box and maybee even Google TV.
I only hope that it won't be possible to disable mirroring from inside an app using the API, if so I'm sure some streaming services will disable mirroring of the screen while using there apps lika HBO Go have done to Airplay
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Shouldn't need a dongle. Maybe a Raspberry Pi but everyone should have one of those anyway Search "Android Transporter" for more info.
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Using a Raspberry Pi would be like a dongle... I'd like to get my hands on one to play, currently, there is a 12 week delivery time on those as well and you most likely would want it in some sort of case for it as well.
While most likely a solution, not a real clean one for mass marketing. That will come though.
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Now that google is having another round of tinkering on the Nexus Q before release we might end up with Miracast support in it as well.
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Hopefully it does include support, but that is still a bit pricey and also not very portable.
Think of something you put in your briefcase, take out for a meeting, plug into the HDMI port of whatever display is in the room and play. So it needs to be portable, reasonably priced and easy to use out of the box without a lot of fiddling with it.
widi and Miracast adapters
I am thinking that these will do what we need on the display side. Now to enable it on the Nexus 7.
Netgear announces Push2TV WiDi adapter and three new NeoTV units
engadget. com/2012/09/20/netgear-push2tv-neotv/#continued
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Using a Raspberry Pi would be like a dongle... I'd like to get my hands on one to play, currently, there is a 12 week delivery time on those as well and you most likely would want it in some sort of case for it as well.
While most likely a solution, not a real clean one for mass marketing. That will come though.
Hopefully it does include support, but that is still a bit pricey and also not very portable.
Think of something you put in your briefcase, take out for a meeting, plug into the HDMI port of whatever display is in the room and play. So it needs to be portable, reasonably priced and easy to use out of the box without a lot of fiddling with it.
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Has anyone heard any updated news on miracast? I tried Google but all I found was old news. I'm really tired of waiting.
Raspberry Pi but I heard it's laggy. I
No mhl hdmi
Are we out of luck?? Any options?
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Raspberry Pi but I heard it's laggy. I
No mhl hdmi
Are we out of luck?? Any options?
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I have always wanted to try out a raspberry pi or to see a good video breakdown of mirroring the display. Hopefully the Miracast standard will take off but I heard you can't be connected to WiFi and use miracast at the same time
I would also like to know some options
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Has anyone made progress geting Nexus 7 mirroring working to a TV/Monitor?
I feel this tablet is sooooooo close to PERFECT except for this one thing...
no mirroring on Nexus 7
Hello there, this is the first time i reply. I have my Nexus 7 it's perfect in many ways but this is an epic fail. I have made a little research and i don't see any way to mirror th N7 exept the Raspberry pi way, I don't get why Google would blocked their first tablet from mirroring if it has everything to do it. I hope someone can make an easy solution soon.
I started this thread. I found some links that show android mirroring. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103505
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I started this thread. I found some links that show android mirroring. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103505
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very cool. did you get to talk to anyone who had it working and any comments on it?
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Hello there, this is the first time i reply. I have my Nexus 7 it's perfect in many ways but this is an epic fail. I have made a little research and i don't see any way to mirror th N7 exept the Raspberry pi way, I don't get why Google would blocked their first tablet from mirroring if it has everything to do it. I hope someone can make an easy solution soon.
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I don't think that "didn't implement" means the same thing as "blocked". OTOH, I never saw the (apparently short-lived) marketing claims by Google that said the N7 would do it.
This post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34464132&postcount=4
seems to suggest that there may be specific hardware performance limitations that make it improbable on the N7.
There are some threads on XDA (& other places too) where folks talk about their experiences attempting either WiDi or Miracast connection with the N4/N7/N10.
I haven't seen any reports of success with either on the N7... despite the curious WiDi option in the display settings in stock 4.2.1 on the N7... what's it for?
I was aware of all this prior to my purchase, but bought the N7 anyway. I'm still hopeful that something will happen in a future update; Miracast is still relatively new... Netgear is shipping their 3rd PTV device, and they are not yet Miracast certified.
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Any idea if the Nexus 10 will support BLE with 4.3 ? ... I dont know if im misinformed or something i was reading , and watches some videos about it and they talk about the update bringing BLE to Nexus 4 and The New Nexus 7, nothing about OG N7 , N10 or the GNEX.
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Any idea if the Nexus 10 will support BLE with 4.3 ? ... I dont know if im misinformed or something i was reading , and watches some videos about it and they talk about the update bringing BLE to Nexus 4 and The New Nexus 7, nothing about OG N7 , N10 or the GNEX.
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Since no one seems to have a clue: I tested this with my Nexus 10. Updated to 4.3 and tried to pair it with a TI SensorKit. No success.
If someone still wants to know: No BLE for Nexus 10
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Since no one seems to have a clue: I tested this with my Nexus 10. Updated to 4.3 and tried to pair it with a TI SensorKit. No success.
If someone still wants to know: No BLE for Nexus 10
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To elaborate on this, bluetooth pairing is different from BLE pairing, so you don't see BLE devices in the android bluetooth pairing screen.
However, you are right to say that the Nexus 10 has no BLE: I am currently developing a BLE application and while it discovers BLE devices when running on the Nexus 4, it doesn't when running on the Nexus 10.
So I guess the hardware is not present, but there is also no runtime error that says so.
Hi everyone, I have a quick question and haven't been able to find the answer anywhere.
I just got the update to 4.3 last night on my Nexus 7. I forgot to check about Miracast support. I usually leave it at home for my wife and daughter and take my Nexus 10 to work.
I know the Nexus 10 got Miracast support with 4.3, but I need to know about the Nexus 7 and don't have it here to check. Can someone let me know?
Trying to swing by Best Buy on the way home and pick up the Netgear PTV3000
Thanks.
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Hi everyone, I have a quick question and haven't been able to find the answer anywhere.
I just got the update to 4.3 last night on my Nexus 7. I forgot to check about Miracast support. I usually leave it at home for my wife and daughter and take my Nexus 10 to work.
I know the Nexus 10 got Miracast support with 4.3, but I need to know about the Nexus 7 and don't have it here to check. Can someone let me know?
Trying to swing by Best Buy on the way home and pick up the Netgear PTV3000
Thanks.
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Only Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2013), and Nexus 10 have Miracast Support.
https://support.google.com/nexus/7/answer/2865484?hl=en
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Only Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2013), and Nexus 10 have Miracast Support.
https://support.google.com/nexus/7/answer/2865484?hl=en
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That's some BS. Do you know of any mods or ROMs that have added the support yet?
There is already a working Miracast rom, but people/dev don't seem to be interested, so I don't think this rom will be include it to the other popular rom out there for the Nexus 7 (2012).
Original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348991
I think some one got it working on PTV3000, if you read the Youtube comment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KNEmaIr3FEg
Here is a 3D gaming I asked him to test out, just in case some one wanna know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20s567tzTdM&feature=player_detailpage&t=316
Here is the rom site for it:
https://github.com/kensuke/How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki/Ota-packages
I don't have a Miracast receiver to test it out, but people who do can test it out.
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That's some BS. Do you know of any mods or ROMs that have added the support yet?
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It's not BS, because I answered your question with quotes. You didn't mention custom roms in OP.
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It's not BS, because I answered your question with quotes. You didn't mention custom roms in OP.
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Hahaha. I wasn't saying your answer was BS. I was saying that Google not including it in the 4.3 update for the N7 was BS.
There is already a working Miracast rom, but people/dev don't seem to be interested, so I don't think this rom will be include it to the other popular rom out there for the Nexus 7 (2012).
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This I never understood, why is that? I would have thought developers would have been right on to this. But kensuke has shown it is possible.
And watching the videos I think it's fantastic. Yes the gaming one had a bit of latency, but it looked minimal. Afaik, other devices (n4, n10) that officially support miracast have similar latency so I don't see why the n7 wasn't officially supported. I'm way more excited about this than chromecast which everyone seems to be freaking over.
I had a look at kensuke's page hoping for news on this being in 4.3 and saw this:
""Remove all traces of wifi display sink implementation and supporting code." "
Sink implementation means that a miracast device can act as a host. So you could miracast from one nexus 7 device to another.
But google has removed sink implementation in 4.3 source! Why would they do that?
Not that I would use the sink feature al the time, but it could be cool where you are trying to demo something to someone, they could just connect to your device and show them. I could think of lots of cool features with that, but for whatever reason, google has removed that code.
Yes the code is there in 4.2.2 but I imagine trying to put old code back can be difficult.
I read that from here:
https://github.com/kensuke/How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki/Android-4.3
I hope he's successful in getting miracast to work in 4.3 and I also hope he can reimplement the sink feature but again, I understand that may be difficult because of google removing it.
When I saw the gaming video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20s567tzTdM&feature=player_detailpage&t=316
I noticed how good the picture was. It made me wonder if there was anything in the miracast spec on performance/quality settings. When miracasting a movie I'd want the highest quality and wouldn't mind latency, but with a game or any realtime app, the less latency the better. I wonder if encoding at a lower bit rate would help tackle the latency? Maybe not as it's hardware encoding the steam and it's the onboard encoder chip and not the settings that would influence latency.
Thanks to kensuke for his efforts. I'm still somewhat surprised that it's taken this long for a developer to attempt to tackle this.
And I really hope other devs would show interest and incorporate this into their roms.
Im really surprised to see that no developer other than kensuke is interested about miracast support in nexus 7. This would be the best Customization ever done for nexus 7. A lot of people would be loving to have this feature yet there is only one rom which kensuke made for only miracast test purposes. It can not be ported to 4.3? - dont mind using 4.2.2 until i upgrade to 2013 nexus 7.
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Hi guys. Yesterday i bougth SONY TV with miracast feature. Can i use mentioned ROM to mirror screen of my N7 to SONY TV. I am still using Parandroid ROM(v.3.60) based on JB 4.2.2. Do i need to flash whole new ROM or there is any script or application that i can use?
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Im really surprised to see that no developer other than kensuke is interested about miracast support in nexus 7. This would be the best Customization ever done for nexus 7. A lot of people would be loving to have this feature yet there is only one rom which kensuke made for only miracast test purposes. It can not be ported to 4.3? - dont mind using 4.2.2 until i upgrade to 2013 nexus 7.
Devs hear us out!
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He talks about the sync issues at Github.
https://github.com/kensuke/How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki/Android-4.3
Also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44703331&postcount=57
Hello all, my first post here.
Recently jumped into the Nexus 7 game with both feet and bought first a 2012 Nexus 7 then almost immediately a 2013 Nexus 7. After playing with both a bit I opted to buy yet another Nexus 7 but my purchase of choice the 3rd time around was another 2012 Nexus 7.
While on paper the specs for the 2013 Nexus 7 are sweet and it is no doubt a fantastic tablet my needs seem to be more suited to the 2012 based on the following conditions, (which I'm aware could change with hacks and kernel updates).
First of all I have USBROM installed on both my 2012 Nexus 7's. It allows me to connect a DAC to my Nexus and also an OTG Y cable which I can simultaneously charge. I have found with the latest CyanogenMod 10.2 nightlies for the 2013 Nexus 7 I can also connect a DAC but I cannot charge at the same time.
I use Logitech Media Server to stream music to my Nexus 7 and having a wonderful touch screen that won't go off during use is fantastic. It replaced a Raspberry Pi running Squeezeplug. More user friendly for the family but of course more expensive.
Another reason I'm a fan of the 2012 is because I can connect a USB 3G dongle to it using PPPWidget. I have an unlocked Huawei E303 and travel extensively. Being able to hook a dongle up to my Nexus will be invaluable when I'm working on some foreign runway with no wifi and not data roaming on my cell phone.
Nexus 7 flo seems to have kernel module loading disabled.
Anyway in my opinion the newer Nexus 7 is somewhat crippled compared to its older brother. That being said I use my 2013 Nexus 7 religiously and constantly as the others seem to have taken up duties as stereo sources at work and at home. However when I travel I leave the new Nexus 7 at home.
Anyway, just an observation and an introduction. As I said I'm aware one good kernel makes the older Nexus 7 almost obsolete but I'm living in the here and now.
John Hagensieker
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hagensieker said:
Hello all, my first post here.
Recently jumped into the Nexus 7 game with both feet and bought first a 2012 Nexus 7 then almost immediately a 2013 Nexus 7. After playing with both a bit I opted to buy yet another Nexus 7 but my purchase of choice the 3rd time around was another 2012 Nexus 7.
While on paper the specs for the 2013 Nexus 7 are sweet and it is no doubt a fantastic tablet my needs seem to be more suited to the 2012 based on the following conditions, (which I'm aware could change with hacks and kernel updates).
First of all I have USBROM installed on both my 2012 Nexus 7's. It allows me to connect a DAC to my Nexus and also an OTG Y cable which I can simultaneously charge. I have found with the latest CyanogenMod 10.2 nightlies for the 2013 Nexus 7 I can also connect a DAC but I cannot charge at the same time.
I use Logitech Media Server to stream music to my Nexus 7 and having a wonderful touch screen that won't go off during use is fantastic. It replaced a Raspberry Pi running Squeezeplug. More user friendly for the family but of course more expensive.
Another reason I'm a fan of the 2012 is because I can connect a USB 3G dongle to it using PPPWidget. I have an unlocked Huawei E303 and travel extensively. Being able to hook a dongle up to my Nexus will be invaluable when I'm working on some foreign runway with no wifi and not data roaming on my cell phone.
Nexus 7 flo seems to have kernel module loading disabled.
Anyway in my opinion the newer Nexus 7 is somewhat crippled compared to its older brother. That being said I use my 2013 Nexus 7 religiously and constantly as the others seem to have taken up duties as stereo sources at work and at home. However when I travel I leave the new Nexus 7 at home.
Anyway, just an observation and an introduction. As I said I'm aware one good kernel makes the older Nexus 7 almost obsolete but I'm living in the here and now.
John Hagensieker
MCAS Iwakuni Japan
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There are custom kernels that have module loading enabled on the 2013 nexus.
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There are custom kernels that have module loading enabled on the 2013 nexus.
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Could you point me to one please. I have searched and been unable to find. I have tried ElementalX, franco, Bulletproof, among others.
Thanks,
John
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Could you point me to one please. I have searched and been unable to find. I have tried ElementalX, franco, Bulletproof, among others.
Thanks,
John
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Try CM Mod
wait why u bought 3 nexus 7 tablets?