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Hey,
I bought an extended battery off ebay. It was around $15 shipped. It gets pretty hot and I'm wondering if there is a risk of damage to the phone if the battery gets too hot.
Yes, but how hot are we talking?
Any time your phone is overheating A. It affects your phone's overall performance and B. You risk permanent damage to your phone. If you've ever overheated a desktop or laptop computer its the same thing on a smaller scale.
Are you rooted? Overclocked? What version of Android are you on?
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Rooted, cyanogenmod7, 2.3.not oc
How enough to feel through my jeans.
Go into Settings>Cyanogenmod Settings>Performance and check the CPU settings. If they are set any higher than a min of 352 and a max of 710 then that might be contributing to it. If you lower it to 691 max or lower than that even, it should help some. The battery shouldn't be overheating to bad unless something is making the phone work hard. But then I've never tried a battery that size so I can't say for sure...
Whenever it gets decently hot like that either pull the battery and let it sit for a while, or at the very least reboot your phone to clear the memory and give it a little break.
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its not oc. Its actually underclocked
Hi all I have spent same time in last days playing Real Racing 3. Very nice game.
While playing the temperature of my N4 became very high. It's a 1.5 quadcore with GPU working hard so it should be normal. But I saw, in system tuner, that while gaming it can reach even 70 Celsius. Is it normal this temperature in gaming or should I be worried?
What about your temperature in gaming?
PS: for the battery this game can drain all the battery in less than 2 hours, but even this should be normal because without gaming it usually reach 4 hours screen on, so 2 hours of hard gaming should be normal.
Let me know.
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Michelechele said:
But I saw, in system tuner, that while gaming it can reach even 70 Celsius. Is it normal this temperature in gaming or should I be worried?
What about your temperature in gaming?
Let me know.
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mine gets 49celcius after 20mins of NFS MW Used to get 58celcius after 1 hours. But sometimes I feel it's normal after 20min of NFS, maybe it depends on the stage I am playing
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Damn compared to your temperature mine are extremely high. What rom and kernel do you use? And what is your CPU bin? I have cyanogenmod M2, stock cyano kernel and fast CPU.
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completely normal
Michelechele said:
Damn compared to your temperature mine are extremely high. What rom and kernel do you use? And what is your CPU bin? I have cyanogenmod M2, stock cyano kernel and fast CPU.
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I think your temp is normal.
I use stock rom, franco kernel, UV 150, fast CPU bin.
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Ok maybe common but IMO this temperatures are pretty high. I just hope to not damage my device to play sometime. Heat is the worst enemy of electronic components.
And for this I like UV a bit but I don't know if CyanogenMod kernel makes different voltages according to different CPU binning.
I hope so.
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What are the safe operating temps? I tried real racing 3 as the first game I tired on the N4 and as soon as it heated up I uninstalled it in fear of burning my device up.
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phew! good to know that I'm not the only one with this heat up problem but I guess its not a problem
Got my n4 just yesterday and immediately started downloading Hd intense games
and because of all the playing I have to charge my phone twice a day now...
ive seen 100C cpu temp on my device, then again i was trying to reach it. i wouldnt worrry too much about the heat. if your device gets warm enough then the heat throttle will automatically kick in. itll reduce your cpu speed and cool down the device. if you keep pushing your device past the thermal throttle, itll eventually hit the automatic thermal safety shutdown temp, which will automatically turn off your device to cool it down.
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Good to know that I'm not the only one with this temperatures... In first moment I thought of down clocking GPU and CPU... But damn it's not possible to have a mobile with quad core and powerful GPU that can't handle the heat. So I hope they managed it well and get used to a burning phone while gaming.
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simms22 said:
ive seen 100C cpu temp on my device, then again i was trying to reach it. i wouldnt worrry too much about the heat. if your device gets warm enough then the heat throttle will automatically kick in. itll reduce your cpu speed and cool down the device. if you keep pushing your device past the thermal throttle, itll eventually hit the automatic thermal safety shutdown temp, which will automatically turn off your device to cool it down.
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100°C? No way. Your phone would've melted
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strapped365 said:
What are the safe operating temps? I tried real racing 3 as the first game I tired on the N4 and as soon as it heated up I uninstalled it in fear of burning my device up.
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Generally, you should not let your phone temperature get greater than 50°C. Otherwise, you risk permanently heat-damaging the battery.
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klvnhng said:
100°C? No way. Your phone would've melted
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Generally, you should not let your phone temperature get greater than 50°C. Otherwise, you risk permanently heat-damaging the battery.
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100C is the safety shutdown temp for the nexus 4, your phone wont melt at that temp. my gnex has hit 110C many many times, thats the shut down temp for the gnex.
you have to realize that there are two different temp readings, cpu temp and battery temp. while your battery reaching 50C isnt safe, 50C for the cpu is still relatively cool, and does not put your phone into danger.
simms22 said:
100C is the safety shutdown temp for the nexus 4, your phone wont melt at that temp. my gnex has hit 110C many many times, thats the shut down temp for the gnex.
you have to realize that there are two different temp readings, cpu temp and battery temp. while your battery reaching 50C isnt safe, 50C for the cpu is still relatively cool, and does not put your phone into danger.
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Ah, that's what you meant. I thought you meant 100C battery temperature :silly:
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Ah, that's what you meant. I thought you meant 100C battery temperature :silly:
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100C battery temp and the battery would probably explode and leak battery acid all over my hands :angel:
simms22 said:
100C battery temp and the battery would probably explode and leak battery acid all over my hands :angel:
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Hence my "Your phone would've melted" XD
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Hence my "Your phone would've melted" XD
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"ive seen 100C cpu temp on my device" This is what sims22 says. I have no idea why you would think "100C cpu temp" is "100C battery."
I just recently got my nexus 4 and I love it there is only one gripe I have which is the CPU temperature ... I ran various tests using stability control test and just gaming . I ran stability test for 30 minutes and got the following results ( below in pictures ) .When I game for an hour it hits 48-52 C . Is this normal ? Will it affect my CPU in anyway ?
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The heat causes thermal throttling. That will reduce performance. Undervolting helps with this a lot.
dia_naji said:
I just recently got my nexus 4 and I love it there is only one gripe I have which is the CPU temperature ... I ran various tests using stability control test and just gaming . I ran stability test for 30 minutes and got the following results ( below in pictures ) .When I game for an hour it hits 48-52 C . Is this normal ? Will it affect my CPU in anyway ?
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theres nothing wrong there, its all normal.
I don't think those temperatures mean overheating. It is indeed quite warm. It is exceptionally warm but not hot to the touch that you can't handle it.
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So is there a fix for this ?
Where are all my computer nerds to stop all these rediculous overheating threads? 40*C in COLD for a processor. 60C is fine. It'll throttle it if it gets too hot. Come back when you hit 90C. Not trying to be mean but jeez, someone needs to open up their computer and feel how how your processor or GPU heat sink is just at idle, you'd get second degree burns touching the heatsink at full load. Its normal for processors to get hot... to a point.
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Where are all my computer nerds to stop all these rediculous overheating threads? 40*C in COLD for a processor. 60C is fine. It'll throttle it if it gets too hot. Come back when you hit 90C. Not trying to be mean but jeez, someone needs to open up their computer and feel how how your processor or GPU heat sink is just at idle, you'd get second degree burns touching the heatsink at full load. Its normal for processors to get hot... to a point.
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The only reason why I asked this question is because I am still new to this device, but you can't really compare a desktop cpu or gpu to a smartphones cpu/gpu.there two distinctive hardware. PS, I work with computers and a computer science major
dia_naji said:
The only reason why I asked this question is because I am still new to this device, but you can't really compare a desktop cpu or gpu to a smartphones cpu/gpu.there two distinctive hardware. PS, I work with computers and a computer science major
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Well for one thing they both run relativity warm.
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dia_naji said:
The only reason why I asked this question is because I am still new to this device, but you can't really compare a desktop cpu or gpu to a smartphones cpu/gpu.there two distinctive hardware. PS, I work with computers and a computer science major
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i hit a 100C(cpu temp) a few times, and got the safety shutdown. youll be ok.
I tried that... Now my nexus 4 won't turn on
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dia_naji said:
I tried that... Now my nexus 4 won't turn on
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RMA it. Don't forget to flash it back to stock first.
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What you see in System tuner is the CPU temp and the temperature you see in stability test is the battery temp. Those temperatures are completely fine and actually really cool for this device. Now if the battery reaches 48-52 Degrees C now we have a problem. I suggest using a custom kernel and ROM to allow some undervolting for none to less throttling so your performance will not be impacted. Should give Trinity kernel a try, latest ones are USUALLY in simm's G+ page or go to the Trinity kernel thread and download it from the website. Hope I helped
Ohh no the battery's max was 40 only the CPU hits 48-52 , for me its not a problem. I just wanted to know if it was safe to continue to game.
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The nexus 4 is definitely a great phone for a low price.But people are not buying this phone because of this THERMAL THROTTLING.so,people listen nexus 4 even runs smooth with thermal throttling going on.so, this fix is for people who just dont want thermal throttling.Before we start,this fix requires ROOT and a custom recovery.And a custom kernel needs to be flashed.so if you do any damage to your phone by doing this,I'm NOT RESPONSIBLE.
So first download the faux kernel for nexus 4(codename mako. if you see mako on faux website its for nexus 4) from here: Faux's website which i cannot post because im new to XDA. you can find it by googling for faux kernel website.I recommend the TBM kernels such as mako-jb-kernel 016 tbm which lets you overclock CPU to 1.83 Ghz.But theres also TBU kernels which support overclocking to 1.94 GHz.
Step 1 now download a faux kernel of your choice.
Step 2 paste the kernel to your mobile
Step 3 Boot into recovery mode
Step 4 Wipe cache
Step 5 Wipe dalvik cache
Step 6 Install .zip kernel
Step 7 Reboot your phone
Step 8 Now you have to buy the faux123 kernel enhancement program from play store(this app is from faux and this has intelli-thermal built in it)
Have fun.the faux app lets you select CPU frequencies also
What.
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With his enhancement app yes you can control throttling but the problem is that because the phones CPU is getting way too hot, so increasing the throttle threshold or limit basically makes it so when your gaming, it makes things smoother however your CPU is burning faster.
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what is qualcomm's default throttling temperatures?
notbrodie said:
what is qualcomm's default throttling temperatures?
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it throttles to 1.3 or sometimes to 1.2 ghz when temp is 37C and to 1.1 ghz when temp is 39C
XxLostSoulxX said:
With his enhancement app yes you can control throttling but the problem is that because the phones CPU is getting way too hot, so increasing the throttle threshold or limit basically makes it so when your gaming, it makes things smoother however your CPU is burning faster.
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No it has a thermal manager which controls the heat.if it heats up it automatically turns off 1 or 2 cores so that means 2 cores wil still run normally but the other 2 cores will shutdown.
Understood??
NexusMobileGamer said:
No it has a thermal manager which controls the heat.if it heats up it automatically turns off 1 or 2 cores so that means 2 cores wil still run normally but the other 2 cores will shutdown.
Understood??
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No **** why do you think it's turning off the cores? Because it's getting to hot
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meh.. you have root? disable throttling then, both battery and cpu throttle, then go on enjoying your device.
simms22 said:
meh.. you have root? disable throttling then, both battery and cpu throttle, then go on enjoying your device.
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Meh then have a fried CPU over time itll kill it from getting way to damn hot.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Meh then have a fried CPU over time itll kill it from getting way to damn hot.
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i always turn off throttling, on every device i own(ed). they all live long lives, and are the best performers around(for their model). they never ever got damaged because of it, and im an extrely heavy user. my n4 has had all throttling disabled since jan 14th, and its still going strong. the difference is that i never complain that my phone turns down cpu speed, or does my phones performance get slowed down.
Just so you know
simms22 said:
i always turn off throttling, on every device i own(ed). they all live long lives, and are the best performers around(for their model). they never ever got damaged because of it, and im an extrely heavy user. my n4 has had all throttling disabled since jan 14th, and its still going strong. the difference is that i never complain that my phone turns down cpu speed, or does my phones performance get slowed down.
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I agree with you.And who dont agree with me,just know that your CPU will not be burned.Cause Fauxclock has a thermal manager of its own named intelli thermal.
NexusMobileGamer said:
I agree with you.And who dont agree with me,just know that your CPU will not be burned.Cause Fauxclock has a thermal manager of its own named intelli thermal.
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Yes, but if you disable it to have maximum performance clearly you're not throwing s*** , which in turn in the long run may burn your CPU
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Yes, but if you disable it to have maximum performance clearly you're not throwing s*** , which in turn in the long run may burn your CPU
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The nexus 4 throttling is caused by the battery reaching a certain temperature not the CPU. It's poor design/cooling system causes heat to build up which raises the temperature of the battery. Once it reaches a low 37 degrees the cpu/gpu are downclocked even if they are well within their limits.
spix123 said:
The nexus 4 throttling is caused by the battery reaching a certain temperature not the CPU. It's poor design/cooling system causes heat to build up which raises the temperature of the battery. Once it reaches a low 37 degrees the cpu/gpu are downclocked even if they are well within their limits.
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the n4 has a battery temp throttle AND a cpu temp throttle.
i generally disable both the battery and cpu temp throttles, but leave both safety temps as is. for those that say "oh, the extra heat will eventually ruin the phone".. the temp doesnt get any hotter than it does when you normally use your phone, the difference is that you dont get throttled. and even if there was extra heat because of, im not planning on having my phone for the amount of time that the extra heat will take to ruin the phone(years).
Hello guys, well i've read every single post about the phone's working temperature on the forum but i just can't figure if my phone is working fine or not, because mostly everyone on the post refer to the temperature as "warm" "bit hot" etc, which is very subjective. I'm a bit worried because my phone (D806, running stock ROM) gets quite warm after like 20 mins of surfing the web through wifi, or after chatting a bit on whatsapp. By "a bit warm" i mean between 32-34 deg centigrade, refering to battery temperature of course. Now, after reading everything i can't figure out if this is a normal temp for this phone or not. I can also say that the min temperature i could measure (with just cell radio on, in idle state) was 25 degrees. The max temperature i could reach (running antutu for like 4 times one after another) was 45 degrees. Now, i'm confused because someone in a post said the max temperature he got was 34 degress, and his usual temp was 24 degrees. I couldn't even get 24 with the phone completely idle. So, i'd like to know your experience, since i can still exchange my phone for a new one if it's defective. Thanks in advance.
Hi,
There is nothing wrong with your battery temp. You can also check you CPU temp (nope, maybe you will have scared )... Fortunately you didn't saw your CPU temp during your 4 Antutu runs...
The temperature (CPU or battery) depends of your room temperature and your current use. You said yourself with 4 Antutu runs the temperature increase, nothing abnormal even for the battery..., same thing after browsing for 20 minutes even in wifi.
A guy had 24°C battery temp in idle and 34°C max, well, what was the room temperature? Nothing running in background? What he was doing?
I mean even in idle, screen off, your phone can do a lot of things especially if you have a rogue app keeping the CPU busy so there could be a little more heat.
In any case there is a thermal protection (thermal throttling) to prevent damages in case of "overheating" for both CPU and battery the CPU freq decrease according to the temp. Even the screen brightness can be automatically lowered. In last case the phone shutdown if a high temperature is reached (about 100 °C for the CPU). The max battery temp should be about 50°C, I don't remember exactly.
Don't worry, as you reported there is nothing wrong with your tempetatures... Same thing if you take a look at your CPU temp, can be arround 70°C in heavy use, even a bit more in really heavy use.
We have a quadcore device running at 2.26 Ghz, all is enclosed without thermal cooling... it's normal to have "heat" with all the components.
Use your phone and profit, no need to monitoring each minutes your temperatures. You confused yourself by only reading the °C, not how or why it is compared to the other posts you read. Each user have different room temperature, use, settings, etc... you can't have the same temperature as xx user. An average yes, I agree and here you are in the good average...
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Viking said it all. Nothing abnormal there, but anything over 30 degrees is elevated temperature and should be avoided
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vPro97 said:
Viking said it all. Nothing abnormal there, but anything over 30 degrees is elevated temperature and should be avoided
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Guys,thanks for your responses. I still don't get something tho because one of you said that my temp is normal (about 32 deg. while browsing), but then you say that anything over 30 deg should be avoided, then i don't quite understand. My phone gets between 30 and 35 deg while regular browsing, it's mostly a bit over 30 all the time i'm actually using it, SO, that's wrong or not? That's the part i don't quite understand.
I guess vPro97 made a typo or he was sarcastic?
Over 30°C for the battery temp is not dangerous at all, about 45°C also. Imagine people living in a really warm country when they use their phones...
Don't worry, already said, there is absolutely nothing abnormal with your temperatures, nothing... all is fine regarding your use...
Don't panic
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viking37 said:
I guess vPro97 made a typo or he was sarcastic?
Don't worry, already said, there is absolutely nothing abnormal with your temperatures, nothing... all is fine regarding your use...
Don't panic
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Right, thanks a lot again guys!:good:
just make a grilled cheese or scrambled eggs on it. Let it vibrate while cooking for extra pasazz
the slick back then not that bad right