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Note 2 Battery/CPU Temperature

I just noticed, coming from the S3 my N2 runs relatively cool. Battery temp is 27-38 degrees celcius even when playing graphic intensive games while tormenting. While the highest cpu temp I saw was 53. Compare this with my s3 battery temp 36-48 and cpu temp 60.
How about you guys?
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Always cold and with full battery.
Our cpu made better than in S3. We can handle 1.8Ghz overclock with out any heating problems.
Samsung did sick jobs

avetny said:
Always cold and with full battery.
Our cpu made better than in S3. We can handle 1.8Ghz overclock with out any heating problems.
Samsung did sick jobs
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Absolutely. I had the note 1 and browsing the web or doing heavy use will burn the battery like blazing hot (50°C). I have yet to see my note 2 past 38°C no matter what I do.
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mine with hardcore usage is cold as ice.

Exactly guys ! This is so optimized device, from any side.

avetny said:
Exactly guys ! This is so optimized device, from any side.
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+1..indeed :thumbup:
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screen became hot
avetny said:
Always cold and with full battery.
Our cpu made better than in S3. We can handle 1.8Ghz overclock with out any heating problems.
Samsung did sick jobs
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But when I play heavy games like NFS or Asphalt 7 the upper part of the screen became hot? are you face the same issue?
secondly, can you tell me the name of application which is used to monitor the CPU temp?
thank you

abdo9119 said:
But when I play heavy games like NFS or Asphalt 7 the upper part of the screen became hot? are you face the same issue?
secondly, can you tell me the name of application which is used to monitor the CPU temp?
thank you
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Thats pretty normal since that is where the CPU/GPU is located.. Though what worries me is a LOT of heat is transmitted to the microSD.. I dont know but I believe it can significantly impact the over all life span of the microSD.

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can you tell me the name of application which is used to monitor the CPU temp?
thank you
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Cool Tool is a good one.

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An ice phone in winter ist bad ^^
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tgyberg said:
Cool Tool is a good one.
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but it shows the battery temp only and doesn't show the CPU temp?

Could it be that you're using the note2 during the in the winter and the gs3 summer that the gs3 appears to run hotter?
I run the GN2 in summer here and it does appear to be warming up a bit, more then I'd like it to be (it feels warm in the hand)

my battery temp when on standby-surfing mode ranges from 32°C~36+°C and when I play games like Asphalt 7, etc. it ranges from 37°C~43°C...don't know if this is acceptable, but I feel hotness when I play games in my device...
Running on: SG Note II GT-N7100 w/ Perseus Kernel α31;Stock ROM-Rooted.

Nexus 4 overheating

I just recently got my nexus 4 and I love it there is only one gripe I have which is the CPU temperature ... I ran various tests using stability control test and just gaming . I ran stability test for 30 minutes and got the following results ( below in pictures ) .When I game for an hour it hits 48-52 C . Is this normal ? Will it affect my CPU in anyway ?
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The heat causes thermal throttling. That will reduce performance. Undervolting helps with this a lot.

dia_naji said:
I just recently got my nexus 4 and I love it there is only one gripe I have which is the CPU temperature ... I ran various tests using stability control test and just gaming . I ran stability test for 30 minutes and got the following results ( below in pictures ) .When I game for an hour it hits 48-52 C . Is this normal ? Will it affect my CPU in anyway ?
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theres nothing wrong there, its all normal.

I don't think those temperatures mean overheating. It is indeed quite warm. It is exceptionally warm but not hot to the touch that you can't handle it.
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So is there a fix for this ?

Where are all my computer nerds to stop all these rediculous overheating threads? 40*C in COLD for a processor. 60C is fine. It'll throttle it if it gets too hot. Come back when you hit 90C. Not trying to be mean but jeez, someone needs to open up their computer and feel how how your processor or GPU heat sink is just at idle, you'd get second degree burns touching the heatsink at full load. Its normal for processors to get hot... to a point.

username8611 said:
Where are all my computer nerds to stop all these rediculous overheating threads? 40*C in COLD for a processor. 60C is fine. It'll throttle it if it gets too hot. Come back when you hit 90C. Not trying to be mean but jeez, someone needs to open up their computer and feel how how your processor or GPU heat sink is just at idle, you'd get second degree burns touching the heatsink at full load. Its normal for processors to get hot... to a point.
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The only reason why I asked this question is because I am still new to this device, but you can't really compare a desktop cpu or gpu to a smartphones cpu/gpu.there two distinctive hardware. PS, I work with computers and a computer science major

dia_naji said:
The only reason why I asked this question is because I am still new to this device, but you can't really compare a desktop cpu or gpu to a smartphones cpu/gpu.there two distinctive hardware. PS, I work with computers and a computer science major
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Well for one thing they both run relativity warm.
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dia_naji said:
The only reason why I asked this question is because I am still new to this device, but you can't really compare a desktop cpu or gpu to a smartphones cpu/gpu.there two distinctive hardware. PS, I work with computers and a computer science major
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i hit a 100C(cpu temp) a few times, and got the safety shutdown. youll be ok.

I tried that... Now my nexus 4 won't turn on
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dia_naji said:
I tried that... Now my nexus 4 won't turn on
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RMA it. Don't forget to flash it back to stock first.
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What you see in System tuner is the CPU temp and the temperature you see in stability test is the battery temp. Those temperatures are completely fine and actually really cool for this device. Now if the battery reaches 48-52 Degrees C now we have a problem. I suggest using a custom kernel and ROM to allow some undervolting for none to less throttling so your performance will not be impacted. Should give Trinity kernel a try, latest ones are USUALLY in simm's G+ page or go to the Trinity kernel thread and download it from the website. Hope I helped

Ohh no the battery's max was 40 only the CPU hits 48-52 , for me its not a problem. I just wanted to know if it was safe to continue to game.
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cpu tempature 91°C

So am running classic stability test 2.7, and I've ran this before and my CPU get to 60°C or after like 15 minutes, I ran it today out of sheer curiosity and it started to show 91°C. Am using cm with there kernel since I recently flashed the latest nightly and thought how would it differ from matrixes. Another thing it can be that the values are being incorrectly displayed. Is this something I should worry about? Am really not in the mood for an RMA and losing my phone. Shouldnt of the system shut itself down after a certain limit as a fail safe?

m4r0v3r said:
So am running classic stability test 2.7, and I've ran this before and my CPU get to 60°C or after like 15 minutes, I ran it today out of sheer curiosity and it started to show 91°C. Am using cm with there kernel since I recently flashed the latest nightly and thought how would it differ from matrixes. Another thing it can be that the values are being incorrectly displayed. Is this something I should worry about? Am really not in the mood for an RMA and losing my phone. Shouldnt of the system shut itself down after a certain limit as a fail safe?
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Are you sure it is Celsius and not Fahrenheit? Is about 33 degrees Celsius. At 91 degrees it would have shut down and rebooted a long time before reaching that temperature.

Trickster mod says its °C so?
edit: the device itself gets very very hot which am sure if it was running at 30 it would be fairly cool would it not?

m4r0v3r said:
So am running classic stability test 2.7, and I've ran this before and my CPU get to 60°C or after like 15 minutes, I ran it today out of sheer curiosity and it started to show 91°C. Am using cm with there kernel since I recently flashed the latest nightly and thought how would it differ from matrixes. Another thing it can be that the values are being incorrectly displayed. Is this something I should worry about? Am really not in the mood for an RMA and losing my phone. Shouldnt of the system shut itself down after a certain limit as a fail safe?
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- touch the back, if it's 91C your fingers will know.
- RMA because you run a heavy benchmark test (I never do, no opinion on that) and it -logically- heated up..?

Vangelis13 said:
- touch the back, if it's 91C your fingers will know.
- RMA because you run a heavy benchmark test (I never do, no opinion on that) and it -logically- heated up..?
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it was very hot I had to put it down so am guessing its 90C, but now its a lot better, it seems it wasn't throttling proper? it attempted to run the entire thing at 1.5ghz constantly, rather than it's usually clocking down to 1.1ghz. Now it's throttling and while its at 78C, it just feels warm and it actually being managed.
I flashed back to matrix's kernel and prefed to use the scaling test which would probably be closer to real life usage and its running 45C. I really like CM and don't want to flash back to stock but I may end up doing it

Note to self
Don't run stability tests
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90c will probobly burn your skin.
it was mistake.

Must be a mistake. 91 degrees Celsius is almost 200 Degrees Fahrenheit, that would melt the plastic on the phone, and burn your fingers.

ScumDroid said:
Must be a mistake. 91 degrees Celsius is almost 200 Degrees Fahrenheit, that would melt the plastic on the phone, and burn your fingers.
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not true. ive forced mine to hit 100C. its the cpu temp, not the temp of the outside of your phone. ive even hit 110C with my galaxy nexus. it doesnt stay at those temps long enough to melt your phone, lol.
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m4r0v3r said:
So am running classic stability test 2.7, and I've ran this before and my CPU get to 60°C or after like 15 minutes, I ran it today out of sheer curiosity and it started to show 91°C. Am using cm with there kernel since I recently flashed the latest nightly and thought how would it differ from matrixes. Another thing it can be that the values are being incorrectly displayed. Is this something I should worry about? Am really not in the mood for an RMA and losing my phone. Shouldnt of the system shut itself down after a certain limit as a fail safe?
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stability tests are meant to push your cpu to its limits. pushing the cpu to its limits will create lots of heat. it is meant to do that. if youre using stability tests, you can not complain about heat. its like putting your car in neutral then flooring the gas pedal, itll cause your engine to get hot, especially if you do it for 15 minutes.

simms22 said:
not true. ive forced mine to hit 100C. its the cpu temp, not the temp of the outside of your phone. ive even hit 110C with my galaxy nexus. it doesnt stay at those temps long enough to melt your phone, lol.
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ahh k my bad, I didnt realize it was internal temp. Thats crazy you hit 110 c the most ive ever seen mine hit is 40 c

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ahh k my bad, I didnt realize it was internal temp. Thats crazy you hit 110 c the most ive ever seen mine hit is 40 c
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safety cpu shutdown for the gnex is 110C. as soon as i saw it hit 110C, it shut down. but you really have to try to get it to that point by stressing it awfully hard. same with the nexus 4, 100C is the safety shutdown. running certain benchmarks or stress tests are the only ways to get it that hot. which is why it makes no sense that someone running a stress test for 15 minutes is complaining about heat, asking if he should rma his device.

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ahh k my bad, I didnt realize it was internal temp. Thats crazy you hit 110 c the most ive ever seen mine hit is 40 c
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I think you are referring to battery temp and not CPU temp. Unless you live somewhere very cold it would be quite difficult for your CPU not to go over 40c
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Alex240188 said:
I think you are referring to battery temp and not CPU temp. Unless you live somewhere very cold it would be quite difficult for your CPU not to go over 40c
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Canada its fkin freezing!! just checked set cpu and its 23 c, but im just scrolling through twitter, not really doing anything else.

The points that I would be concerned with temps are
Battery > 50°C
CPU > 80°C
This is based on stock thermal throttle at 60°C CPU
On Franco kernel I have upped my throttle limit to 70°C so I wouldn't be concerned unless it went above 85.
You will know if your battery is at a dangerous temperature because it will be very uncomfortable to hold
I just played some beach buggy blitz for 10 mins.
CPU jumped up 20° from idle up to 50° but again well within my tolerance
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My nexus 4 cpu temperature stays at 40°C or more and reaches 60°C when playing GTA for instance. Should i be worried? BTW im running faux kernel with intellidemand and eco mode

Nexuzx said:
My nexus 4 cpu temperature stays at 40°C or more and reaches 60°C when playing GTA for instance. Should i be worried? BTW im running faux kernel with intellidemand and eco mode
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no.
for the record am not asking if I can RMA, am happy with my device and really don't need to lose it for a week. But this just started happening more frequently. Sometimes the thermald ****s up and it doesn't throttle at all, at times I could be just playing GTA, Worms, Plague etc I usually don't notice because the phones down on the table, pick it up and owwwww flashing back to matrix solved the majority of it tbh. Right now it's sitting on 31C idle, it'll be about 40-50C on chrome funnily enough, and then 60ishC on games, pushing 70 depending how long I leave it on. I see that as fairly normal tbh, but 90C? I wouldn't even trust my fan cooled i5 to go there.

And am back were I started just playing 2 minutes of batman and its at 70°C and burning my hand

wow 91° ?? its dangerous maybe your device will " BOOM" sometimes :0
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m4r0v3r said:
no.
for the record am not asking if I can RMA, am happy with my device and really don't need to lose it for a week. But this just started happening more frequently. Sometimes the thermald ****s up and it doesn't throttle at all, at times I could be just playing GTA, Worms, Plague etc I usually don't notice because the phones down on the table, pick it up and owwwww flashing back to matrix solved the majority of it tbh. Right now it's sitting on 31C idle, it'll be about 40-50C on chrome funnily enough, and then 60ishC on games, pushing 70 depending how long I leave it on. I see that as fairly normal tbh, but 90C? I wouldn't even trust my fan cooled i5 to go there.
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cool.
but yea, its possible to reach those high temps if, and only if, pushing your cpu. itll get warmer faster if your gpu is overclocked(is gpu overclocked in franco kernel?). now, if doing nothing and the phone gets that hot, thats a problem(software or hardware).

nah its not overclocked, atm its cooled down, although it does take a while to drop from a high temp to something low even on idle.

Nexus 4 thermal throttling fix

The nexus 4 is definitely a great phone for a low price.But people are not buying this phone because of this THERMAL THROTTLING.so,people listen nexus 4 even runs smooth with thermal throttling going on.so, this fix is for people who just dont want thermal throttling.Before we start,this fix requires ROOT and a custom recovery.And a custom kernel needs to be flashed.so if you do any damage to your phone by doing this,I'm NOT RESPONSIBLE.
So first download the faux kernel for nexus 4(codename mako. if you see mako on faux website its for nexus 4) from here: Faux's website which i cannot post because im new to XDA. you can find it by googling for faux kernel website.I recommend the TBM kernels such as mako-jb-kernel 016 tbm which lets you overclock CPU to 1.83 Ghz.But theres also TBU kernels which support overclocking to 1.94 GHz.
Step 1 now download a faux kernel of your choice.
Step 2 paste the kernel to your mobile
Step 3 Boot into recovery mode
Step 4 Wipe cache
Step 5 Wipe dalvik cache
Step 6 Install .zip kernel
Step 7 Reboot your phone
Step 8 Now you have to buy the faux123 kernel enhancement program from play store(this app is from faux and this has intelli-thermal built in it)
Have fun.the faux app lets you select CPU frequencies also

What.
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With his enhancement app yes you can control throttling but the problem is that because the phones CPU is getting way too hot, so increasing the throttle threshold or limit basically makes it so when your gaming, it makes things smoother however your CPU is burning faster.
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what is qualcomm's default throttling temperatures?

notbrodie said:
what is qualcomm's default throttling temperatures?
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it throttles to 1.3 or sometimes to 1.2 ghz when temp is 37C and to 1.1 ghz when temp is 39C

XxLostSoulxX said:
With his enhancement app yes you can control throttling but the problem is that because the phones CPU is getting way too hot, so increasing the throttle threshold or limit basically makes it so when your gaming, it makes things smoother however your CPU is burning faster.
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No it has a thermal manager which controls the heat.if it heats up it automatically turns off 1 or 2 cores so that means 2 cores wil still run normally but the other 2 cores will shutdown.
Understood??

NexusMobileGamer said:
No it has a thermal manager which controls the heat.if it heats up it automatically turns off 1 or 2 cores so that means 2 cores wil still run normally but the other 2 cores will shutdown.
Understood??
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No **** why do you think it's turning off the cores? Because it's getting to hot
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meh.. you have root? disable throttling then, both battery and cpu throttle, then go on enjoying your device.

simms22 said:
meh.. you have root? disable throttling then, both battery and cpu throttle, then go on enjoying your device.
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Meh then have a fried CPU over time itll kill it from getting way to damn hot.
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Meh then have a fried CPU over time itll kill it from getting way to damn hot.
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i always turn off throttling, on every device i own(ed). they all live long lives, and are the best performers around(for their model). they never ever got damaged because of it, and im an extrely heavy user. my n4 has had all throttling disabled since jan 14th, and its still going strong. the difference is that i never complain that my phone turns down cpu speed, or does my phones performance get slowed down.

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i always turn off throttling, on every device i own(ed). they all live long lives, and are the best performers around(for their model). they never ever got damaged because of it, and im an extrely heavy user. my n4 has had all throttling disabled since jan 14th, and its still going strong. the difference is that i never complain that my phone turns down cpu speed, or does my phones performance get slowed down.
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I agree with you.And who dont agree with me,just know that your CPU will not be burned.Cause Fauxclock has a thermal manager of its own named intelli thermal.

NexusMobileGamer said:
I agree with you.And who dont agree with me,just know that your CPU will not be burned.Cause Fauxclock has a thermal manager of its own named intelli thermal.
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Yes, but if you disable it to have maximum performance clearly you're not throwing s*** , which in turn in the long run may burn your CPU
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Yes, but if you disable it to have maximum performance clearly you're not throwing s*** , which in turn in the long run may burn your CPU
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The nexus 4 throttling is caused by the battery reaching a certain temperature not the CPU. It's poor design/cooling system causes heat to build up which raises the temperature of the battery. Once it reaches a low 37 degrees the cpu/gpu are downclocked even if they are well within their limits.

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The nexus 4 throttling is caused by the battery reaching a certain temperature not the CPU. It's poor design/cooling system causes heat to build up which raises the temperature of the battery. Once it reaches a low 37 degrees the cpu/gpu are downclocked even if they are well within their limits.
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the n4 has a battery temp throttle AND a cpu temp throttle.
i generally disable both the battery and cpu temp throttles, but leave both safety temps as is. for those that say "oh, the extra heat will eventually ruin the phone".. the temp doesnt get any hotter than it does when you normally use your phone, the difference is that you dont get throttled. and even if there was extra heat because of, im not planning on having my phone for the amount of time that the extra heat will take to ruin the phone(years).

Heat

Hey everybody I have the "problem"that my n4 heats up very quickly on 3g until 50-60°celsius. Is this normal ?
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It must be because you are using apps or games that like high frequencies
Either undervolt or spend less time using your phone

nexuspur said:
Hey everybody I have the "problem"that my n4 heats up very quickly on 3g until 50-60°celsius. Is this normal ?
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What to you mean heat up? the temperature of the battery or you have a thermometer on the phone? and do not take the temperature while the phone is charging. it supposed to go up!!!
mine battery temp is about 25 degrees with a max of 30-32. ambient room temp is around 20 degrees and the phone is not in direct sunlight. note that my cpu is undervolted (150mv down) and underclocked (at 1350mhz) but playing games the temp doesn't go more than 32.
in some forums i have read that it is normal the back of the phone to heat up because it is plastic and plastic does not spread heat like aluminum.
hope i shed some light...
ps. the degrees are in celcius

ttheodorou said:
What to you mean heat up? the temperature of the battery or you have a thermometer on the phone? and do not take the temperature while the phone is charging. it supposed to go up!!!
mine battery temp is about 25 degrees with a max of 30-32. ambient room temp is around 20 degrees and the phone is not in direct sunlight. note that my cpu is undervolted (150mv down) and underclocked (at 1350mhz) but playing games the temp doesn't go more than 32.
in some forums i have read that it is normal the back of the phone to heat up because it is plastic and plastic does not spread heat like aluminum.
hope i shed some light...
ps. the degrees are in celcius
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thx for ur answer but im talking about the cpu temperature not about the battery temperature. for battery temperature i hav the same values like you. my cpu is also undervolted until nearly -200mv^^. but anyway thx.

nexuspur said:
thx for ur answer but im talking about the cpu temperature not about the battery temperature. for battery temperature i hav the same values like you. my cpu is also undervolted until nearly -200mv^^. but anyway thx.
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how can you see the cpu temp?? the nexus4 as far as i know has not any sensors for the cpu temp

ttheodorou said:
how can you see the cpu temp?? the nexus4 as far as i know has not any sensors for the cpu temp
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you can easily can read it in "trickstermod".

nexuspur said:
you can easily can read it in "trickstermod".
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i will check and reply to you in a while
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you can easily can read it in "trickstermod".
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after about 5 mins of gaming (riptide gp2 that has quite heavy graphics) with wifi and 3g on the temp of my cpy via trickstermod is about 42-43 degrees when i immediately leave the game. if you need me to check anything else feel free to ask.

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after about 5 mins of gaming (riptide gp2 that has quite heavy graphics) with wifi and 3g on the temp of my cpy via trickstermod is about 42-43 degrees when i immediately leave the game. if you need me to check anything else feel free to ask.
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thx for checking whats about your display brightness because i only get 50 degrees if im on 100%

nexuspur said:
thx for checking whats about your display brightness because i only get 50 degrees if im on 100%
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with brightness set to 100% i hit 49 degrees afte 5 mins gaming with wifi and 3g enabled. that is normal (i think) if you consider that the thermal throttling kicks in at 70 degrees (checked it in franco kernel updater)
edit: before the brightness was set to auto so i think it was about 15-20%

It's normal to get around 50 degrees on 3G or more during gaming.
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RASTAVIPER said:
It's normal to get around 50 degrees on 3G or more during gaming.
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This. My CPU temps have often hit 80C when playing graphics intensive games. So don't worry about it and enjoy your phone!
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Isn't that a bit high? Isn't the CPU clocked down when reaching 70 degrees?
I have experienced that sometimes... Then even a quad core becomes very slow
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Starship706 said:
Isn't that a bit high? Isn't the CPU clocked down when reaching 70 degrees?
I have experienced that sometimes... Then even a quad core becomes very slow
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I have thermal throttling set to 85C. So no downclock until that temperature is reached.
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