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Next device for Droid X owners

What's next for you guys? DX2? Thunderbolt or Charge? Xperia Play? Discuss.

Bionic/targa
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Thunderbolt or next HTC device unless the revolution is impressive

Maybe a Charge but leaning towards a Targa/Bionic. The reason I say Charge is because it has great battery life from what I've read. I prefer Moto phones build quality wise.
Beamed from my MB810.

I'm leaning towards an X2 but the lack of LTE may be the killer.

My next phone will be a modern device (front facing camera, dual core, amoled/qHD screen, etc.) with an unlocked bootloader, preferably a four-inch screen, and preferably by HTC.
I haven't had time to look so I don't know the name of this device yet. =P
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I know I am going to get some massive hatred for this BUT............ IPHONE 5. I seriously really do like android I have no complaints. Motorola kind of ruined the experience for me, but I was used to using apple software, and I can hack it just as easily has an android phone.

galaxy s 2

im leaning towards the Xperia Play. Ill have 4G eventually with my Xoom so its not vital on my next phone. Plus it appears to come stock with gingerbread and no manufacturer skins or whatever.

Id like to say unlocked bootloader is a must... Those are becoming harder and harder to find hopefully their will be an across the board policy with manufactures to provide u with an unlocked bootloader while refusing a warranty... I thunk id be willing to give up my warranty to have the bootloader unlocked
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None of the ones listed, they are not that great. I need a real breakthrough phone in order to spend my $200 and lock me up for another 2 years.

Motorola is screwing the pooch. Bigtime. No LTE on the DX2 and the Bionic has 512MB of RAM. Neither qualifies as a true dual-core top-end phone, the Galaxy S 2 will mop the floor with Motorola if they don't get their **** together, and quickly.
@Owen: I completely agree, I'd thoroughly test my new phone then once I know it's not faulty, I'd totally waive the warranty to get the key to unlock the bootloader.

I am waiting for the next Nexus phone as long as its on VZW or Sprint or the T-Mobile if the AT&T deal crashes
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I'm holding out for the Nexus 3 with Ice Cream Sandwich on Verizon.
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I was leaning towards the Bionic but the Galaxy 2 is looking better and better.
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I am going to get off of Verizon and go to Sprint where the data is truly unlimited and coverage will not be a problem because I live in a very heavily populated area.
And DEFINETLY something with an unlocked bootloader

None of the current line up of phones will make me renew my contract early. I'm pleased enough with my DX to stick with it for a little longer while I wait for a truly "next gen" device in LTE & specs.
One thing for certain is my love for flashing took a major hit once I got the DX. A Nexus 3 on VZW would be what I'd go for first. After that would likely be a return to an HTC handset.

I really like the Droid X form factor, maybe the Droid X 2 or X 3

hiv0lt said:
I'm holding out for the Nexus 3 with Ice Cream Sandwich on Verizon.
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I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Roland Deschain said:
Motorola is screwing the pooch. Bigtime. No LTE on the DX2 and the Bionic has 512MB of RAM. Neither qualifies as a true dual-core top-end phone, the Galaxy S 2 will mop the floor with Motorola if they don't get their **** together, and quickly.
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I've been reading a lot of complaints about the lack of LTE and a Front facing camera on the DX2. While I agree its a bit of an oversight, LTE is not available as widely as 3g currently is. So for many users, this is not an issue - as they simply do not have the LTE coverage to make the jump worthy.
Another item worth noting, is the battery drain of these faster radios (4g/LTE).
I am certainly biased, as I am quite enamored with my current X - even with the locked bootloader and small community. However, I forsee the DX2 being a very solid choice for people that don't care for a front camera and LTE. Especially when they drop the price, or Amazon offers it for 1 cent again.

HTC Droid Incredible vs Nexus One

Hello,
I'm thinking to change my cellphone. I'm find two goods alternative the HTC Incredible and the HTC Nexus One. Both have the same characteristics and I don't know which of them to choose.
What do you think about it? What would you recommend it?
One important issue for me is that both can be rooted and can install ROMs.
Thank you.

Hello cabrerachaparro,
Well IMO, being an Incredible owner, I say you can't go wrong with the Dinc. It is by far the first phone that has lived up to the hype and its name Incredible. I have yet to find one thing the phone can't do. It is not extremely difficult to root and flash ROM's as long as you read everything 3 times before doing anything. The list of ROM's out there by some amazing Dev's is huge. Some may bash the battery life but with proper adjustments I get great battery life for the most part. However I've only had the Dinc so I am biased but even with discount incentives to upgrade I find it hard to leave it until something leaps and bounds comes out.

They are essentially the same thing minus the droid incs 8gb emmc storage. Id pick the inc cause of the 8 free gb and its on verizon. And its a tough as$ phone. I've dropped mine at least 25 times, no case and not a scratch.
Youre looking at a crackflashing troll with ORD

They're more or less the same phone (A minor difference someone else mentioned is the 8GB internal memory) so it pretty much comes down to carrier:
If you're on Verizon, go with the Incredible
If you're not on Verizon and wan't to get on Verizon, go with the Incredible AND DO IT NOW! before unlimited data ends in 2 days.
If you're on some other carrier, go with the Nexus One.
(Sense is probably a consideration... but carrier is the most important)

The Nexus One also has a 5MP camera, vs. our 8MP camera. Just nit picking lol.
I was going to get the Nexus One when it was announced for VZW. I was completely sold on it, but then they said it wouldn't actually be going to go to VZW but, they suggested checking out the Droid Incredible and here I am today a year and 3 months later lol.
As other people said, it mostly depends on what carrier you want to stick with.
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I didn't realize that the Incredible works with CDMA and in my country the carriers only work with GSM
So I think I will have to choose the Nexus One.

cabrerachaparro said:
I didn't realize that the Incredible works with CDMA and in my country the carriers only work with GSM
So I think I will have to choose the Nexus One.
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i'd wait for the next LG Nexus that will come out by the end of this year with quad core and 4g lte

I know your getting the nexus one as you stated it works where your at, but I owned a nexus one and I got say the incredible takes it out. The screen on my incredible is way better than my nexus one. The black on my N1 was faded and the white was a light brown. I don't know which screen it was as there are two different screens. Seems like the inc has more internal memory too. I haven't had to transfer apps to the sdcard.
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cvbcbcmv said:
when was that announced? Sounds cool. My contracts up in december, if I have an option of 4g, and a quad core processor, I will F*cking die!
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lol its going to AT&T and will most likely pack TEGRA 3 With AT&T 4G LTE Network

Those are just rumors about the new nexus, it hasn't been announced yet so no real details are known.

ddgarcia05 said:
I know your getting the nexus one as you stated it works where your at, but I owned a nexus one and I got say the incredible takes it out. The screen on my incredible is way better than my nexus one. The black on my N1 was faded and the white was a light brown. I don't know which screen it was as there are two different screens. Seems like the inc has more internal memory too. I haven't had to transfer apps to the sdcard.
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Both the N1 and Incredible use the same screens. They are either AMOLED or SLCD. I have 2 AMOLED N1s and the screen looks identical to my wife's AMOLED Inc. The Inc w/Hardware version 0002 is AMOLED, hardware version 0003 is SLCD. I have 2nd phone that is an SLCD Inc and its screen looks much better than AMOLED, IMO.
Yeah, the Inc has more internal memory, something like 1GB I think? N1 only has 512MB. Inc also has an additional 8GB emmc which can be reconfigured to work as SD for putting apps on it as well.
The 5MP camera on the N1 actually takes better looking pics than the Inc.
The Inc has a better touchscreen that actually registers multitouch correctly. N1 has the multitouch "bug".
The Inc is also sealed better, no dust gets in the screen like the N1.
IMO, the Inc also looks nicer.
N1 has better battery life and I also like the multicolor indicator ball.
Although I guess it's a moot comparison because OP can't use the Inc. If they made a GSM Inc, I would definitely choose it over the N1.

Yes, sadly the Inc only works for CDMA and my carrier works with GSM so it seems I will choose the N1. I don't if there is another GSM Android with the same specifications and of course similar price

GnatGoSplat said:
Inc also has an additional 8GB emmc which can be reconfigured to work as SD for putting apps on it as well.
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How do you do this??

bast525 said:
How do you do this??
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Follow post #5 by ardax:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12844337&postcount=5
You'll need to be rooted to change the file though.
My DInc didn't come with a MicroSD card and I didn't have any other use for the emmc so I was real happy I was able to get that to work. Your emmc will become /sdcard and the SD card will become /emmc.

Hmmm that is a bit of a compromise. I have a decent sized card but I would love to free up that space by moving apps back to emmc.

If your SD card is mapped to /emmc, I think the phone would still see any media you put on it. I think the main difference with mounting the SD card under /emmc and emmc under /sdcard is you can then install apps to the emmc. Oh, and I noticed the HTC Notes app won't recognize the switcheroo.

cabrerachaparro said:
Yes, sadly the Inc only works for CDMA and my carrier works with GSM so it seems I will choose the N1. I don't if there is another GSM Android with the same specifications and of course similar price
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You could go get the Droid Incredible and go to "Las Malvinas" by Breña in Peru and get the people there to unlock the phone for you for a very small fee lol. When my folks go there to see relatives, they bring their Verizon phones and they work. Also a cousin of mine was able to get an unlocked Verizon phone to work in Peru as well even-though Peru seems to only have a GSM cell structure (Claro and Movistar). The HTC Incredible has only dual bands for CDMA so it might be impossible to pull it off. Have you considered getting the HTC Incredible 2? It has GSM and CDMA combos for better World coverage. The N1 sounds good too.

Incredible the best

Who will stay with Moto after the Ultra/Maxx/Mini?

My last two phones have been Motorola. Functionally speaking they are pretty good and my Maxx has been the most solid phone I have owned. There is a fly in the ointment though. The back cover on multiple phones which have been replaced all creak and squeak after a few months of ownership.
For this reason I am sitting tight until the next ultimate handset comes out that can functionally one-up this phone. One that is built solid but light and has the big battery or super efficient tech to go for days like the Maxx does.
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I too have a "creaking" back cover...specifically up by the power button/volume rocker...
That being said...I was always a big Moto fan..and then switched because I HAD to have the Galaxy S3 when it dropped...and that was the WORST cell phone related mistake of my life..
I couldn't wait to dump that thing and get back to Moto...I just hope that they decide to continue the Droid line along with the X line...
I am almost 100% sure that my next phone will be a Motorola...
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Droid 2, Droid 4, Droid MAXX. They've all been tanks. I had two Droid 4s that both got wet and they both pulled through until months later... Hardware wise and build quality wise I have no complaints.
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I have had several Motorolas: the droid 1 a855, Droid Razr Maxx, and now the Droid Maxx. I loved the root-ability of the first two, although the Droid Razr Maxx was a beeatch. Now that I'm on the latest droid Maxx, it really sucks that it can't be rooted, at least since that chinese guy got caught, and I'm stuck with a slower-than-it-should-be device, which I cannot customize. I will only stick with Motorola if they don't lock the bootloader on the next one, but I doubt that will happen. Looks like I will get a nexus next.
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Moto for life...

It's way too early for me to tell. I'll see what's available at upgrade time and decide then. This phone will be great until then.

I've had over a dozen Moto phones starting with the original brick and almost every flagship phone since then. I've strayed a couple times in the last 20 years and quickly came back.
I'll stay with my flagship Moto Dev's unless Lenovo messes with the built like a tank phones that we have enjoyed. If I can't drop it in a pool or river(true stories), dry it out and use it the next day, I don't want it lol.
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I just want to get out from under Verizon. That being said the functionality of these phones is awesome. So unless Google uses these new features in the next Nexus i'm jumping to the new Moto X on AT&T or the One from One plus.
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I'm not expecting to stick with Motorola, but I'm not necessarily opposed to it. I've been relatively happy with my Maxx- battery life has been far better than any other phone I've had (particularly coming from a Galaxy Nexus), which is really what drove me to the Maxx instead of the HTC One.
It seems like battery life of other phones is improving, taking away the primary distinguishing factor that brought me to Motorola. I haven't been completely happy with the performance of some apps on the Maxx, and the screen resolution could use a bump, so I'm going to prioritize those things a little higher next time around.
I'm really interested in seeing what happens with the Android Silver program. It would be tough for me to move off Verizon. Assuming Verizon participates in Android Silver, that's probably the closest thing Verizon users will get to a Nexus-like experience.

There is a new phone out every other week....
...from some company or other. So there is no way to tell what will be the best price vs performance choice a year and a half from now when my contract expires again.
I have to say thought that even though I have had root on previous Android Phones (Droid 1 and Droid 3) I don't really miss it on my Max. The biggest reason I wanted it on previous phones was to get rid of all the crap that I never used. But with the Maxx it seems like there is 1. less crap to begin with and 2. A lot of it can be disabled (including a lot of the verizon stuff) using the regular android settings menu. So I'm not particularly missing root on this phone.
On my Droid 1, late in its life I did start messing with custom roms just for fun. Funny thing is that I still have that Droid 1 sitting here on my desk running Cyanogen Mod 7.2 (think its .2 - don't remember for sure). It doesnt have cellular access anymore but it still works around the house as a WiFi only device.
PS: I was not sorry to see the Droid 3 go away. That one never lived up to my hopes for it. I liked the form factor and I do sometimes miss the physical keyboard but the CPU always seemed slow and I almost immediately regretted getting a 3G device rather than holding out a bit longer for a 4G phone.

I am very impressed with my Maxx, even today. I don't trust Verizon, and am leery of Lenovo. I want to continue with this company's awesome path that started with Google's purchase, but I am not sure that Lenovo will allow that. I am also disappointed that thanks to Verizon I am still running 4.4.0.
If they release a 64gb Moto whatever with a super battery, and the quality stays the same, I will stick with them barring further course changes for the company strategy.

My last 2 smartphones have been Motorola Droids and I love both of them. Unless in the future they remove the things I love about the phone (NFC, Qi Charging, Awesome Battery) I don't see myself using a different brand.

When using other phones in the store, they just don't do it for me. I do love the Android experience on this latest phone.
I am ready to leave Verizon because of their scheming ways.
In the store moments ago the sales reps are telling a customer that his only option to get a new phone is to give up unlimited data or buy outright. Did not mention device payment plan. Shysters.
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I think I'll stick with Moto. My next device won't be a Droid though. The successor to the Moto X sounds pretty good.
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When using other phones in the store, they just don't do it for me. I do love the Android experience on this latest phone.
I am ready to leave Verizon because of their scheming ways.
In the store moments ago the sales reps are telling a customer that his only option to get a new phone is to give up unlimited data or buy outright. Did not mention device payment plan. Shysters.
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...or at least how I did it. Don't get your phone at the Verizon Store. Order it online from Verizon (not from Amazon, wirefly, ect or any other third party - direct from Verizon). Along the way choose the option to "keep my existing plan". It let me keep my unlimited data plan that's been grandfathered for me ever since my first smart phone way back when (was a Samsung i760 Windows Mobile if anyone cares). I chose to "pick up in store" even though I had ordered on line. They guys at the store couldn't believe I still had unlimited data. They said they thought that couldn't be done.

I will stay with my Droid Mini. It has the best combination of size, power, apps, and now with it able to utilize the XLTE speeds makes it even better. I am just not that interested in getting a phone that I have to carry in hand vice in my pocket because every phone out now is 5" plus. I swear most newer phones are nearing the size of my Nexus 7 LOL.

I may jump ship if one came out with either 64Gb or SD card slot.
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.

Einsteindks said:
I may jump ship if one came out with either 64Gb or SD card slot.
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.
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The Moto E has an SD card slot and the newer release of the Moto G is getting one too. I don't know if this is an indication that Moto is changing its philosophy with the Lenovo merger (Google doesn't like SD Cards) or just an acknowledgement that these "lesser phones" don't have enough on board storage to be useful without one. The E for example has only 4 GB storage and according to the article I read, has only 2.2 GB left for the user after the OS and system apps are installed.

ratman6161 said:
The Moto E has an SD card slot and the newer release of the Moto G is getting one too. I don't know if this is an indication that Moto is changing its philosophy with the Lenovo merger (Google doesn't like SD Cards) or just an acknowledgement that these "lesser phones" don't have enough on board storage to be useful without one. The E for example has only 4 GB storage and according to the article I read, has only 2.2 GB left for the user after the OS and system apps are installed.
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I would lean towards the latter and it being a cost saving move.

These are Verizon phones
The title lists only the Droid series - Ultra/ Mini and Maxx.
The 'real' Motorola phones are the X, G and E for now.
So, question should be rephrased to "Who will stay with Verizon after the Ultra/Maxx/Mini?"
I am not in the US and using the Droid Maxx. My earlier phone - Motorola Defy - is still working after 3 years and several CM installs.
The hardware is pretty strong on that one and the build quality is good. The phone got wet several times in the rain and there have been no permanent issues due to water.
I cannot say the same for the Droid Maxx. It would be risking too much for me (I paid twice the amount to acquire a Droid Maxx, to what I paid to get a Defy three years ago.)
Hence I have put it into an Otterbox Defender series case to protect the phone since one fall on the floor will kill the phone.
The build quality of Droid Maxx is just like any other phone in the market perhaps.
But there are positives for sure.
1. The LCD has no bleeding, which I feel speaks of good quality.
2. The speaker has good volume and great quality (for music lovers)
3. The battery is awesome. For my limited use, it easily goes to the end of third day for me.
The Otterbox Defender adds a lot of bulk and the inbuilt screen protector reduces the touch sensitivity significantly (especially the virtual buttons).
But since I wish to use the phone for three more years, I think this is the price I have to pay for the beast.
I also bought a used Razr HD Maxx XT926 for my dad last year. The phone is really nice (and the 4.4.2 update is like the icing on the cake).
Luckily I have bootloader unlocked on that one, so I can retain control for a long time.

Moto makes me say goodbye to Moto G LTE

I am bummed. I needed a replacement/repair on my XT1045. Mic developed issues and also has had the USB charging issue (cable has to be in just the right position to actually charge (suspect USB port breaking loose from MB) so I opened an Advanced Exchange ticket with Motorola. No problem...then a week went by and no new phone (should have gone out in 24hrs overnight according to the email I received).
Key here is nobody at Motorola even tried to contact me about sending a different let alone downgraded phone.
Contacted via online chat and was told I could not be helped and had to call live people during business hours, I work nights and at least 6-days/week -- days are problematic. Not a huge deal but I was disappointed.
While waiting for time to call, phone sort of still works but not well, about 14-days after original ticket opened I get email indicating my phone was shipped. I was happy it was going to arrive the next day, my day off by 10:30AM. FedEx driver decided because I sleep days to not "bother me" in before noon so he changed the delivery time to about 12N. At least they guy was trying but overnight AM is used for a reason, right, not a biggie.
Phone arrives, I put it aside for and when I open it later that day I find it's kinda big, in fact huge. I grab my XT1045 and guess what? It's a Moto G 2014 (XT1064)....sigh....no LTE. OK I am willing to play along, that is until I find it refuses to connect to my carrier when SIM from XT1045 is inserted. SIM is LTE so no issues with backward compatibility, in theory....anyway for two days I try and nothing fixes it.
I email Motorola to the help address they put in the package with the XT1064. In less than 24hrs I get a phone call from Motorola to tell me they are sending me a new Moto X 2014, well a code to let me build my own. I was dead asleep and just said "....ummmm, OK that is nice of you..." I normally would have asked what about the lack of a SD card slot? Now I have to still buy find and buy new case and I LOVED my XT1045 in it's MPERO Mint/Orange case because I can find it wherever I set it down at work. Plus the way I use my phone for work is to handle up to 100-150 calls on busy days. On those days I get a solid 18-30hrs battery life which helps if I forget to charge it the night before or before work. Under non-work days I am solid at 35-48 hrs.
See I don't use my phone for other than calls and brief web searching and I have a number of services turned off unless I need them. It's a trade off.
OK, having made short story long I am being sent, gawds knows when, a new Moto X which while an amazing phone, might not be the phone for ME. I really NEED my SD card slot as I use my phone to also upload photos to backup storage when on a shoot (in the field so to speak other wise away from a desktop). So now I'm not able to do that...in fact the SD card slot was a primary reason for the XT1045, along with the great voice quality on the other end.
I suspect I might be whinging over nothing as the Moto X is a dandy phone but it's targeted at a different sort of user. I'm more utilitarian, I use mine as a tool more than anything else and am not sold the X-2014 (sorry can't find the model number)
And last the case I've grown to love is not yet to be had for the new phone and with my luck, it never will be...but my MPERO by Empire Case had been a fantastic case on par or better than the Otterbox Commute. Plus the colors have gotten me a ton of complements from perfect strangers. That helps in my business.
I applaud Motorola for making the effort to make a bad decision and situation right by me. Yet I am already thinking how much this will cost me in the end.
I guess the real thing I am passing along is there seem to not be any replacement XT1045's to send out as replacements under warranty. Odd they still list them for sale but I have to wonder if there is a reason they are not sending them out. Of course it could be related to my phone being only a couple months old.
I suppose worst case I can sell the Moto X, could only get a 16gb version for my carrier it seems. But I dunno....I just already miss a great phone that I had hoped to use for many years. sniff...sniff...

I have a almost new XT1045..What model Moto X do you have..I have (2) 1045's and would trade (one) for the right Moto X (2nd Gen.)
Find out what model # Moto X you have..get back to me, IF a trade sounds good to you..
If the boot loader can be unlocked..I would be interested..
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NWKENT said:
I have a almost new XT1045..What model Moto X do you have..I have (2) 1045's and would trade (one) for the right Moto X (2nd Gen.)
Find out what model # Moto X you have..get back to me, IF a trade sounds good to you..
If the boot loader can be unlocked..I would be interested..
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Ummm, no thanks, that was not the intent of my post. And were I to get rid of the Moto X 2014 it would sold for the $500 it's worth right now not traded for a phone I can buy new for $200. Good try though....
We'll see how the Moto X work for me, that pesky SD card slot is a big deal for my use...of course I can use my old LG Metro (it has an SD card slot) tethered to the X via wifi or BT and then send the RAW photos upstream. Complicated but doable I suppose.
All I know is my XT1045 was ideal. I guess I should be willing to try a new thing... ???

you sound like a huge baby, you obviously know you got a better and more expensive phone where you can easily sell it, buy a new moto g lte, and make an extra 200$+ and yet you continue to complain?
boohoo, you sure sound like you got the short end of the stick here

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you sound like a huge baby, you obviously know you got a better and more expensive phone where you can easily sell it, buy a new moto g lte, and make an extra 200$+ and yet you continue to complain?
boohoo, you sure sound like you got the short end of the stick here
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You kids crack me up...you don't see a phone as a business tool for specific uses not a toy. The Moto X (XT1095) is a dandy phone BUT I would never have purchased it due to the fact it lacks one feature I require for my workflow and is lacking in another area compared to my Moto G LTE which is battery life.
Of course I am going to try the Moto X and see if I can find something workable but it will be a tedious deal to juggle getting photos in the field from the camera's SD card to an intermediary device then to the XT1095 and ultimately to my online backup. With my XT1045 it's simply a matter of inserting the SD card and letting Box and Dropbox backup the files automagically, no fuss no muss.
And no an SD card with WIFI is not an option as it puts a camera body down for the time it takes to transfer the 8gb-16gb+ of RAW images.
All solutions mean I have to spend more money to find a solution after a WARRANTY repair. That is what is so ironically funny-sad here and I LOVE the XT1045 as it gave me all i need but just failed after less than 3-months use.
Motorola was GREAT in their service, they offered the best solution they could, am not unhappy with them it is the disruption with a workflow I have crafted and rely upon to earn a living.
Sell the phone just adds another layer of complexity I don't care to make time for but will likely have to. I was one of the original eBay Power Sellers and kept that for over a decade, I have sold enough crap on eBay that I'm done selling, hehehe, burnt out was a better description.
SO it's NOT whinging-whining; it's frustration with a simple exchange gone sideways. Plus do not lose sight of the fact they sent a Moto G 2014 first rather than contact me about not having any access to the XT1045 replacements. And the Moto G 2014 was indeed a downgrade or at best a sideways change due to no LTE. And it turned out to have issues right out of the box.
Get it now?

brecklundin said:
Ummm, no thanks, that was not the intent of my post. And were I to get rid of the Moto X 2014 it would sold for the $500 it's worth right now not traded for a phone I can buy new for $200. Good try though....
We'll see how the Moto X work for me, that pesky SD card slot is a big deal for my use...of course I can use my old LG Metro (it has an SD card slot) tethered to the X via wifi or BT and then send the RAW photos upstream. Complicated but doable I suppose.
All I know is my XT1045 was ideal. I guess I should be willing to try a new thing... ???
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Moto X doesn't have OTG support? You could use a pendrive or an external card reader instead of your sd-card...

Let me get this right. Motorola sent you a brand new 2014 X for a Motorola g lte version Wow I would be well chuffed. Get it on eBay and use the money to get the phone you need with money left over, How the hell someone can be downbeat at this, Why the hell doesn't things happen to me like this. I'd be well chuffed.

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Moto X doesn't have OTG support? You could use a pendrive or an external card reader instead of your sd-card...
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hey that works! never thought of that. I've got a USB 3.0 SDHC card reader already....solve the xfer need totally! Thanks!
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Let me get this right. Motorola sent you a brand new 2014 X for a Motorola g lte version Wow I would be well chuffed. Get it on eBay and use the money to get the phone you need with money left over, How the hell someone can be downbeat at this, Why the hell doesn't things happen to me like this. I'd be well chuffed.
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oh, I love the idea of what Motorola did for me. They showed they value our business. It was I have a specific need and picked the XT1045 because it fit my needs perfectly even with just 8GB.
The thing for me is time involved. I grew to really appreciate the XT1045 and also had the perfect case. If I keep the xt1095 all accessories have to be repurchased as well and at a new-release premium.
it's all about trade offs and if the new.phone delivers I'm thrilled but if not it will be almost 2-months into the process of a.simple exchange.
I was really posting to show Moto tries where so many companies just blow us off. But also to show warranty returns might be at issue for people with fairly new G LET phones due to appropriate replacement phones. I suspect it's part of the Lenovo purchase that's pending.
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Oh I get what you mean now, Motorola are pretty good. Sorry for confusion ?

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You kids crack me up...you don't see a phone as a business tool for specific uses not a toy. The Moto X (XT1095) is a dandy phone BUT I would never have purchased it due to the fact it lacks one feature I require for my workflow and is lacking in another area compared to my Moto G LTE which is battery life.
Of course I am going to try the Moto X and see if I can find something workable but it will be a tedious deal to juggle getting photos in the field from the camera's SD card to an intermediary device then to the XT1095 and ultimately to my online backup. With my XT1045 it's simply a matter of inserting the SD card and letting Box and Dropbox backup the files automagically, no fuss no muss.
And no an SD card with WIFI is not an option as it puts a camera body down for the time it takes to transfer the 8gb-16gb+ of RAW images.
All solutions mean I have to spend more money to find a solution after a WARRANTY repair. That is what is so ironically funny-sad here and I LOVE the XT1045 as it gave me all i need but just failed after less than 3-months use.
Motorola was GREAT in their service, they offered the best solution they could, am not unhappy with them it is the disruption with a workflow I have crafted and rely upon to earn a living.
Sell the phone just adds another layer of complexity I don't care to make time for but will likely have to. I was one of the original eBay Power Sellers and kept that for over a decade, I have sold enough crap on eBay that I'm done selling, hehehe, burnt out was a better description.
SO it's NOT whinging-whining; it's frustration with a simple exchange gone sideways. Plus do not lose sight of the fact they sent a Moto G 2014 first rather than contact me about not having any access to the XT1045 replacements. And the Moto G 2014 was indeed a downgrade or at best a sideways change due to no LTE. And it turned out to have issues right out of the box.
Get it now?
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umm the new moto g (2014) has an SD card slot. look here
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_(2014)-6647.php
this thread looks like nothing but complaining.

Gen2 lists for $140 on Amazon for a few more hours
FYI
The "global" one - best for ATT's network bands - is still available as the "deal of the day" on Amazon for $139.99
The "US" version - best for T-Mobile's 3G bands - sold out.
Note 2nd Gen has no LTE version yet, but yes support the SD card - apparently can get some 64GB to work, not just 32 as spec'd.

You are being a huge ungrateful baby. The moto x is a huge upgrade, and there are always other ways of doing things that oftentimes end up working better. Or, sell it and buy a new g 4g and pocket the cash. Either way, you win thanks to what sounds like some pretty awesome customer service. Too bad it was wasted on you.

There is literally not a single reason for the existence of this thread.

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There literally not a single reason for the existence of this thread.
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^ Truth.
It is rather standard for companies to replace old out of stock models with new ones. In the case of phones, they have short manufacturing runs and when a new model is out you can bet that the manufacturer has dumped all their old stock onto carriers and shops already. ie. even if you bought it today from a 3rd party, you should not expect Motorola to have it for replacement. In the future keep that in mind and ask from the start if you can get the exact same model as replacement or what your options are.

Droid Turbo 2 vs. Nexus 6p

So I'm assuming these are the two big phones that are in the spotlight at the moment. Both have their pros and cons, one gains what the other one lacks and vice versa. Which do you believe is the superior device?
Both contain the Snapdragon 810, 3GB RAM and a Quad HD screen so they should be virtually the same, performance wise.
Pros of Nexus 6p:
Android M right right out of the box
Pure Android experience with the quickest updates (we know how long other brands take to update)
Finger print scanner
USB type C
Cheaper price
Very clear AMOLED display
Unlockable bootloader
Pros of Droid Turbo 2:
"Shatterproof Display"
Micro SD card (finally!)
Moto Maker (ability to customize your phone)
Larger battery
Flash on the front facing camera (pretty cool)
Wireless charging
Specs based on personal preference:
Screen size(5.7 on the 6p vs. 5.4 on the DT2)
Camera (21 MP on the DT2 vs. 12.3 MP on the 6p)
POLED(which everyone seems to be complaining about) on the DT2 vs. AMOLED on the 6p
The locked bootloader on the Turbo 2 has me nervous because I took a gamble with the original Turbo and, luckily, we ended up getting a decent way of rooting the phone; I don't know if I can take that risk again. Not only that, but Motorola really broke our trust with its claims of the original Turbo getting lollipop "before the end of 2014". What a joke that was. All we felt were pain and broken promises.
I do miss having an external SD card so that is the one thing that is leaning me towards the Turbo 2, but I wish they could just take the best qualities of both phones to make the ultimate superphone.
Which do you think is the superior device?
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Superior, 6p hands down. Outside of the battery and possibly the camera the 6p beats the Turbo2 in most measurable areas, including portability and unlock-ability.
For me I am looking for a device with a very large battery, so this is at the top of my list. I also still have a 2 year contract so with the subsidy I am hoping it will be a reasonable price.
That all depends on the display. I need to see one in person to make sure the display will be good for me as I have also seen a lot of mixed reviews, mostly negative.

How is the 6p better for portability? The turbo 2 is physically smaller, which means more portable to me.
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He probably means rooting/roming.

Or between carriers. Turbo 2 being VZW exclusive, even if it gets unlocked BL (unlikely!) ever, probably minimal dev support.
The big downfall, personal to me, of the 6P is size. I just dont want a phone that large.
I love my current Turbo. just not convinced this is enough of a spec bump to upgrade though. will have to see it in person I guess

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Or between carriers. Turbo 2 being VZW exclusive, even if it gets unlocked BL (unlikely!) ever, probably minimal dev support.
The big downfall, personal to me, of the 6P is size. I just dont want a phone that large.
I love my current Turbo. just not convinced this is enough of a spec bump to upgrade though. will have to see it in person I guess
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You got it, sorry for the poor choice of terms.

Ah, good point. I never switch carriers, so didn't think about that...
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DarkWolf747 said:
He probably means rooting/roming.
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JasonJoel said:
How is the 6p better for portability? The turbo 2 is physically smaller, which means more portable to me.
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You got it, sorry for the poor choice of terms.
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Ah, good point. I never switch carriers, so didn't think about that...
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Pros of Nexus 6p:
Unlockable bootloader
The locked bootloader on the Turbo 2 has me nervous because I took a gamble with the original Turbo and, luckily, we ended up getting a decent way of rooting the phone; I don't know if I can take that risk again. Not only that, but Motorola really broke our trust with its claims of the original Turbo getting lollipop "before the end of 2014". What a joke that was. All we felt were pain and broken promises.
I do miss having an external SD card so that is the one thing that is leaning me towards the Turbo 2, but I wish they could just take the best qualities of both phones to make the ultimate superphone.
Which do you think is the superior device?
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Just look for the Moto X Force, is the international version of the Turbo 2.

I wanted the nexus 6p. But I dont have almost 700 bucks for the 64gb plus the insurance. Me and my gf just switched from T-Mobile to Verizon. I choose the droid turbo 2. I've never had a droid device before. It seems nice and I don't need a case on my phone since the screen won't shatter. Plus Verizon gave me 300 dollars for a trade in. Half went to my droid turbo 2 and the other half went to my gfs note 5. But the payments are much easier to do then to come up with almost 700 up front for a phone.

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I wanted the nexus 6p. But I dont have almost 700 bucks for the 64gb plus the insurance. Me and my gf just switched from T-Mobile to Verizon. I choose the droid turbo 2. I've never had a droid device before. It seems nice and I don't need a case on my phone since the screen won't shatter. Plus Verizon gave me 300 dollars for a trade in. Half went to my droid turbo 2 and the other half went to my gfs note 5. But the payments are much easier to do then to come up with almost 700 up front for a phone.
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How long have you had the device and what are your impressions?
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