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HTC Sensation June 12th vs Waiting Samsung Galax SII

I have loved my N1 since launch day and love my T-Mobile service.
But am looking to upgrade to a dual-core phone with much more application space available and a better screen, performance, battery life, etc...
Is anyone in the same position as me and looking between these phones?
Also, do you all know if the "4G" bands for the Sensation will work for the LTE network of ATT should the merger go through?
Thanks for all your input!!

It would be nice if you knew whether HTC was going to retro the unlock to the sensation. Without this to me the sensation is not a contender. Another unknown would be what radios a tmo sgs2 is going to come out with. The international version does not give you full 3G support on the current network but I would not be surprised to see support for the merger in a tmo version and you would of course have the radios you need now as well.
I know this is not maybe what your asking but having the sgs2 and coming from the N1 which I still have I would say that it might not be a bad idea to consider waiting a little bit longer. With the s2 things are faster and the screen is really nice but I am not able to do a single thing that I could not do with the N1. Side by side the performance of the N1 is not bad and and I'm actually impressed with how well it holds up to a generationally newer device. IMO handsets are getting good enough now that getting a new device is becoming more of an incremental upgrade than a means of gaining new capability. I suppose this depends on how patient you are obviously but with the sensation launch happening so soon hanging a little longer might see the bootloader question sorted out and you may also at that point find out what radios a tmo S2 is going to be packing. These things would let you make a better decision.

Great post man. I agree for the most part, now when upgrading phones, in terms of. Hardware anyway, you have a jump in performance but with the applications that are being used for the phone to specs aren't that demanding.
I think that, being on ATT and having a Nexus 1 I'm going to wait for the Galaxy S 2. A larger screen and a little more processing power is all that I need.
Aside from the fact that I'm not on Tmobile, in never going to get a phone with a locked bootloader.
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With the release of HtcDev.com I am sure that they will be unlocking ALL HTC devices.

That they will and it's a good move to make, however it isn't unlocked right now. Also, they might have some stupid requirement giving up the warranty or something.
Regardless, the galaxy S 2 has better specs with a thinner design and better screen. They're both great phones and if I was on Tmobile Id definitely get one.
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Yeah that's true but with regards to the warranty situation HTC has been pretty good honoring their hardware warranty with Unlocked Nexus One's

platinumandroid said:
Yeah that's true but with regards to the warranty situation HTC has been pretty good honoring their hardware warranty with Unlocked Nexus One's
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Oh I know, I have a Nexus 1 myself with an unlocked bootloader. That was a half assed point I jus threw out because of its slim possibility.
I'm just hoping that there aren't going to be any asterisks when they start unlocking them.
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Phone choice

My brother and his wife are taking there first step to smartphones out of all the at&t snartphones would it be safe to say everyone here would recommend atrix or would u recommened something else also I need some key factors to swing them toward the recommendations thanks for all responses
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I'm sure the majority of the people on the Atrix forum would recommend the Atrix. Just as the majority of the people on the Inspire forum would recommend the Inspire.
It's all about what you need, and what you want. We can't answer that for your friends.

I personally recommend waiting if possible. The Iphone 5 will be out soon, followed by some pretty rock solid android phones that will most likely top the iphone spec wise. Also, I would recommend giving Verizon a chance. Verizons network is much larger and now- much faster than ATT (4g LTE vs 3g+). I feel like I've been duped by Att by their claimes of offering 4g speeds, which led me to buy the Atrix on their network. The Atrix is a power house of a phone, but ATT has much catching up to do in terms of establishing a true 4g network.
If that isn't much of a concern, the Atrix is going for dirt cheap right now and is well worth it at this price point.
Just my two cents.
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Thanks we r on family plan and am trying to convince them t get atrix over infuse inspire and windows based. So we r stock with att
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Thanks we r on family plan and am trying to convince them t get atrix over infuse inspire and windows based. So we r stock with att
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If you cant wait for the new Nexus or iPhone 5 (4s?) than go with the atrix. It kills anything right now. If it was me I would get the wife the iphone 4 since its simple, clean and pretty. Woman like that. Then get the atrix for yourself.

If they are not on a budget I would let them get 2 unlocked phones (Samsung galaxy S II) would be my choice.
If they must have a phone now I would recommend the Samsung infuse or the iPhone 4.
To be honest like another said, ill wait because once the summer is over more good phones like the iPhone 5 and many fantastic android phones are to come. Plus wp7 is also going to get better.
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No question... [Samsung?] Nexus "Prime"... freaking Ice Cream Sandwich!!! All you have to do is wait till about November
Otherwise, if it has to been soon, I'd go Atrix or Samsung Attain (a/k/a Galaxy SII), which should be out this month.

If she doesn't want an iPhone, get her an Atrix. The infuse and inspire are already outdated specs.

I have an Atrix, my wife got the Inspire. Both of us are very happy with what we have. I wanted something more technologically advanced to tinker with, while she isn't interested in even having root, (although I will persuade her so I can "tinker" very soon)! She likes the extra screen real estate, and has had no issues other than when she mistakenly downloaded a new launcher and didn't know why her screens, icons, etc. were all messed up. I uninstalled the launcher and she was once again happy.
The Atrix feels just like my iPhone 3GS did in my hand, both weight and form, so I very comfortably made the change in that respect. I've learned a lot in the last few months about Android, and this is a lot more fun than iOS if you don't mind getting frustrated every now and then.
I would say if he wants to play with his phone and try all the possibilities there are, and will be, he should go with the Atrix, or wait until the next super innovation is released. If his wife is not so tech savvy, she should get something like the Inspire. Don't buy 2 Atrix if he plans on doing the modding to both phones would be my opinion, as it can be very time consuming sometimes getting back from a bricked condition, and he doesn't want twice the work. Screwing up is innevitable...........it will happen...........it will be more than once! LOL

iphone for the less technical and prestige conscious.
Atrix for those who like to tinker, wish they could tinker, enjoy falling into tinker zones.
As just a phone, any phone can work. This phone is a powerhouse. It's not just a phone. (Ha, they say that about all of them, nowadays.)

there is also the rumoured phone
the HTC Holiday and HTC Lead
Holiday could be the first AT&T LTE phone
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/23/htc-holiday-to-be-a-4-5-inch-behemoth-with-qhd-resolution-1-2gh/

AT&T - Atrix at "end of life"

Interesting post from the Moto forums today. This makes perfect sense given the way AT&T has been going the last few months:
"posted 3:08 PM by billsite34
I was at an ATT store this morning inquiring about a laptop dock for my Atrix. They couldn't find it on their website(discontiued), then they said that the original Atrix was at "end of life" as far as ATT was concerned. I take this to mean that ATT will no longer support the Atrix and not push for ICS from Motorola for it!"
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/ae343df67e?post=ae343df67e&start=301

ugh. F motorola.
next phone won't be a motorola. sadly. don't much like any of the other phones.

Sadly I will probably go with a Samsung. If I were to get one tomorrow, it would be the Skyrocket (there's LTE here).

Yeah, I would go back to samsung (skyrocket) I had a captivate before the ATRIX.
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And just because Att will not carry it anymore you think it's the end of the Atrix?
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Eh, get used to it. Buy whatever is the best phone at the time and understand that it will be completely outdated in 6 months.
Oh, and don't buy the hype that the ATT store salesmen sell. Some of them are a little dense.

stewartsoda said:
Eh, get used to it. Buy whatever is the best phone at the time and understand that it will be completely outdated in 6 months.
Oh, and don't buy the hype that the ATT store salesmen sell. Some of them are a little dense.
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Couldn't agree more. I have a close friend who works at a corporate store and all he says is that they are told to push IPHONEs. I tell him Fkuc you my friend, and then we have drinks.

phro321 said:
Couldn't agree more. I have a close friend who works at a corporate store and all he says is that they are told to push IPHONEs. I tell him Fkuc you my friend, and then we have drinks.
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your friend better be picking up that tab...!
(for being a douche).

stewartsoda said:
Eh, get used to it. Buy whatever is the best phone at the time and understand that it will be completely outdated in 6 months.
Oh, and don't buy the hype that the ATT store salesmen sell. Some of them are a little dense.
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Its one thing for a carrier to stop selling a phone after that, but if the phone is only supported by the manufacture for 6 months, there is a serious issue. Especially given that a bar has been set for about 2 years by both Apple and Google on Nexus devices, and that 2 years is the length of the average US contract.
I think this is being read into wrong though. AT&T most likely is just no longer selling the OG model, not Motorola discontinuing support.

I have not given up on ICS yet, but I think it is unlikely to come to the Atrix 4G. I realized that when I recognized the Atrix 2 was a cost reduced version of the 4G. My theory is that MOTO marketing f'd up big time when they over priced the Atrix and accessories. The Atrix 2 was doomed because the Atrix name was damaged beyond reclamation.
I don't see any new phone presently available that is significantly better and some worse. Posts like the one that started this thread hasten the day when I say, "enough already" and install cm7/9.
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Following up on myself, I don't understand why Moto won't just say what their plans for the Atrix 4G and ICS are and take the heat and get it over with.
The guys who run the forum at moto remind me of the man who played piano in a cathouse and always claimed he never knew what was going on up stairs.
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Atrix, dead in a year. 3GS going on 3 years. Makes me sick...

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Atrix, dead in a year. 3GS going on 3 years. Makes me sick...
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I'm a little surprised Atrix is getting dropped cause it was such a big deal when it came out. If Apple makes the iPhone 5 with a bigger screen, I'm getting it. Atleast Apple won't drop support for it. That's one of the reasons Android pisses me off. Stop making 200 different Android phones a month, and concentrate more on updates. You've got phones coming out that people forget about in a month.
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so much for a device demoed and praised at CES..
Time Line:
Q1:
CES Jan 2011: Demonstrated and Praised as one of the best devices at that CES.
Feb/March 2011: Launched
Q3:
GB update
Q4:
Still GB updates
end of Q4:
EOL
im not purchasing any moto devices on older OS anymore..
should have not purchased Froyo atrix while GB was around and shall not purchase GB Razr when ICS is around..
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I still do not regret purchase of atrix; thankful to QUALITY of dev support it is receiving. Even pre-Betas for atrix are more stable than final releases of my older devices (captivate and vibrant)
But for a general user who wouldnot think of anything beyond rooting...this is kind of abuse :-/

Guys its not MOTO. ATT has final say on all updates for its phones. Only way around it is the Icrap and A Nexus.
Once Google slows the OS updates down to once maybe twice a year like they plan it will be less of a prob
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Guys its not MOTO. ATT has final say on all updates for its phones. Only way around it is the Icrap and A Nexus.
Once Google slows the OS updates down to once maybe twice a year like they plan it will be less of a prob
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ATT is not the only vendor but looking at the update history so far, it would be too late to expect ICS for atrix considering delay in GB update.

I believe the statement this guy posted is true regarding the Atrix 4G and AT&T. If you look on the AT&T website you cannot buy the laptop dock anymore on either the regular store or the premier store. AT&T previously told me that when an item is removed from there instead of being marked "out of stock", it's gone for good. AT&T is selling off Atrix accessories, and I do believe they are done with the Atrix. Will they still sell it?...............sure, until the stock is depleted.............will it still be around for a long time?.............sure............the refurbs will be going round and round for years to come.
What is perturbing is that this phone lasted a measly 6 months or so, as was already stated. Nobody disputes that phones come and go, new models are released, etc.............what is messed up is that people who purchased "the most powerful cell phone on the planet" were lied to about the specs by both AT&T and Moto, one case in point being 1080p recording which we never got, and have suffered lack luster support from both entities.
I love my Atrix, and will keep it as long as devs are putting out new ROM's, etc., but I am up for an upgrade again in less than 2 months, and will look for something with more support. Unfortunately I am stuck with AT&T for the time being because I have a family plan with 5 phones on it, and who would pay early termination on 5 phones?

This is my 4th Android phone. Like someone else said, 3gs was supported for least 3 years. I think I want to try an apple phone next. We shouldn't have to rely on outside people/unofficial support for the next version of Android.
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Deggy said:
This is my 4th Android phone. Like someone else said, 3gs was supported for least 3 years. I think I want to try an apple phone next. We shouldn't have to rely on outside people/unofficial support for the next version of Android.
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With all the law suits apple is winning, they will have the only phones anyways. Haha
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The reason they push a new product every 6 months or so is reflected on the attitudes of most android forums; never satisfied, always desiring something more from their devices. People make lateral device changes (Atrix to Moto RAZR for example) instead of upgrades because there is some level of constant dissatisfaction with their Android device. Companies such as motorola are catering to this, and making tons of money in the process. Why bother support a device for multiple years when people are willing to shell out gobs of cash for Android's 'flavor of the week'? It makes more money for the company and the carrier.
You have to remember that the carrier not the device manufacturer decides what phones make it to market. Apple was wise to keep their warranty and product support in-house, and their quality and support reflects as much. Other phone manufacturers are bent over the carriers' knee. The carrier dictates how long the phone is supported, what accessories are available, and how software updates get pushed. Apple was wise to circumvent all this BS, and look how many iPhone accessories there are in every store, how Apple pushes software updates via their own program, ultimately you get an overall better product that is supported for much longer, while still maintaining profitability.
I love Android as a product, but what an abysmal business model for an open source-based OS. The only thing that keeps me going on Android are the occasional product gems such as the Atrix and the unofficial support provided from devs around the world.
Lets face it, Android owners still look to Apple as the golden standard.

Verizon upgrade

I have Verizon and will be eligible for an upgrade this time next month. I have the incredible right now but am wondering what I should upgrade to. Are there supposed to be any phones coming with in the next month that will be worth upgrading to? Let me know what you think. Thanks
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I wouldn't upgrade to anything that is getting the VZ8 upgrade...Just sayin

Verizon is supposed to, some time this month, get a successor to the Incredible 2, the Incredible 4G or HTC Fireball. Think their version of the One X that would be your best bet

I'm in the same boat as you. There's a few choices coming up, with my opinions alongside of each.
-Moto Droid Fighter - Specs aren't released, but looks like a well built phone. I've never been into moto blur, but I am considering it.
- Samsung Galaxy Journal - Verizon's version of the note. Old hardware in my opinion. The note has been out for a long time internationally.
- HTC Fireball - Rumored to just be a budget relative of the Incredible series. Budget phone is a no go for me. I need top of the line specs. I doubt this will be a One series device.
I'm hoping with all that I have that Verizon decides to go with the Galaxy SIII. Pretty promising to have some great specs like the GSII when it came out. I can't tell you how pissed I'd be if Verizon missed out again... So if I were you, I'd definitely wait a little bit.
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I think that you definitely shouldn't rule out the Droid Razr Maxx. It has awesome battery life, is pretty thin and is getting ICS soon, if you care. But you could say that I have a biased opinion.
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I'm up too in early May at Verizon, but willing to wait another month or so until the right phone comes out. I need a phone that's at least 5" and has a stylus. That leaves me with zero choices and just one rumor. Yeah my life sucks.

Just don't get a Razr and they do this to you:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=channel if you use 12GB.

I have the Galaxy Nexus and absolutely love this phone. My first android phone was the nexus one and now this phone. Have found vanilla android the only way to go after playing with friends HTC phones. But then again I love installing custom rom's, maybe that's not as important to you.
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Any new opinions now that more info has been released about the incredible 4g?
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Verizon android phones,new htc?

So currently I have a tbolt and its on its last leg. Everytime its time for me yo upgradr it seems like its always that transition period where its a while before any great new devices. Well I need an android device now. Not to thrilled about going with a moto device even if the maxx has great battery life. Nexus just doesnt seem well built. The lg spectrum looks good spec wise. Wondering if I root it to get rid of that terrible lg sw will be ok or should I just get an improved tbolt and go with the rezound. I really want an htc one x but mo timeframe vzw will be getting. Opinions on the spectrum? Rezound? Or anyone heard when they will be getting some new top of the line devices
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You cannot go wrong with the Rezound.
Best signal of any phone I've ever used.
Development is getting going quicker now since we now have S-OFF.
It's a really underrated phone as it got lost in the Nexus/Razr Maxx craze and now the newer phones.

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You cannot go wrong with the Rezound.
Best signal of any phone I've ever used.
Development is getting going quicker now since we now have S-OFF.
It's a really underrated phone as it got lost in the Nexus/Razr Maxx craze and now the newer phones.
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Totally agree.. rezound is.like a lost treasure. It's easily the best phone on the market. That's what happens with ****ty advertising. Verizon got more money to push the gnex and razor.
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Serinety said:
Totally agree.. rezound is.like a lost treasure. It's easily the best phone on the market. That's what happens with ****ty advertising. Verizon got more money to push the gnex and razor.
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When exactly did they push advertising for the GNex? Retailers didn't even know the phone was supposed to be released on the release day. They advertise nothing but moto. I had to go to 4 different stores to get mine because they weren't sure if they could release it. Lol, vzw for ya.
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The Rezound is a solid option great form factor. I've played around with the Razr maxx and it's shortcoming is it is a little too wide. I think Verizon is waiting to decide if they will carry the new HTC One X series so your options are the Rezound or the razr maxx at the moment.

They did announce the Droid Incredible 4G LTE at CTIA...

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They did announce the Droid Incredible 4G LTE at CTIA...
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You're right! Looks like it is supposed to come out this month.

Verizon's CEO put out a press release specifying that they won't be getting any of the new HTC phones within the foreseeable future.
The Rezound has great development going on with it and is definitely a quality device. If you're getting a phone now it's what I'd recommend. VZ is going Nazi style on their Moto bootloaders so that's definitely something I wouldn't buy myself.

I would upgrate now before they take your unlimited data away.

you can`t compare , HTC - Simply the best !