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S4 Updates, Flashing...

Hello,
I have been trying to figure out a few things with the S4 and read a lot of stuff but I have a few unanswered question.
I come from using NExus phones since Nexus 1. Unlock Phone, install CWM and then use it to flash roms or rooting scripts.
Now, I have S4. I am still with their STOCK on I337M (Canadian Model) and I rooted using CF-Auto-Root and ODIN.
What I don't understand, is:
- Can I flash CWM and then just use CWM and SuperSU-vx.xx.zip to root? Why Use Odin?
- Now that I am rooted, if I new SAMSUNG firmware comes along, I am assuming it will fail, I will have to unroot and then apply firmware and then root again? How do I unroot? "Full Unroot" from the option in the app just like the Nexus phones?
- S4 has a counter from what I read, but lot's of warning about bricking phone is that only active on Samsung stock? What if I flash a google stock?
- Can I just use Rom Manager Pro as I used to with Nexus devices...
if I flash CWM, is it replacing ODIN? Is odin a recovery like Odin! If anyone can point out and explain the difference between CWM , ODIN, Nexus phones and S4 it would be great...
I know that now when I go to download mode (Is that like fastboot?) it shows binary as being custom, but I don't get a yellow triangle when I boot...
Thanks for any info regarding explaining what ODIN is...
I also noticed although I have 16GB phone, 6.38GB is system! That is huge! Is that normal?
There are some nice features that I would not like to lose, so I stuck with samsung and just use NOVA home screen...

This is actually the "ATT Galaxy S4Active" forum. S4 forum will have answers to all your S4 questions.
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Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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ssss25 said:
Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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Hi,
It seems that you have been around the houses.
The place you are looking for is HERE

Thanks.. I will do some more reading to try to find answers.. looks like my post just got moved.
Thanks
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Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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I just went through the un root because I was only using it for one thing. I ended up flashing the original ROM using Odin then doing a factory reset and cache wipe. Now waiting for the update not sure I will root until S4 is not longer updated by Samsung.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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Hi,
Look HERE
OTA will remove root,and the latest will lock down your bootloader.

Hi
I have AMG1... I think this is the latest one but I was able to root.. Will locking boot loader prevent rooting.. Could it be another one for at only?
Thanks
Note: yes. I did notice chainfires note.. But he doesn't say what load is the latest.. There are so many Samsung s4 models devices.. Each with different models its so confusing
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I just installed CWM on latest version of Canadian I337M AMG1... Its good so far.
Xda modder.. There are differences between i337 att and Canadian i337m.. No forum specific to the Canadian folks?
Thanks...
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ROM help

Is there anyway I could still flash a rom if i am not rooted, I see some roms come with root if you flash it. Someone please explain to me thank you

You don't need to be rooted but need to have access to a custom recovery. What firmware are you on?

We can assume your phone is an ATT model but your profile says your a Tmobile customer.
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im on 4.3 att

lilg754367 said:
im on 4.3 att
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Hope you have plenty of patience
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lol why you say that

lilg754367 said:
lol why you say that
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No way to root or put on a custom recovery.

lilg754367 said:
lol why you say that
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Are you 4.3 rom or 4.3 updated
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4.3 updated

K thats what I thought .even if you achieved root there is no custom recovery for that update and no Safestrap either.
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so i guess a long wait is what it is huh

lilg754367 said:
so i guess a long wait is what it is huh
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Also hope there ends up being an open door to the bootloader
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[Q] Safe Root?

Are there any safe roots available for the Rogers version? One that doesn't increase the boot flash count and mess up the knox thing?

Mekanikz said:
Are there any safe roots available for the Rogers version? One that doesn't increase the boot flash count and mess up the knox thing?
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Did you try the new safe root .bat file? It worked on my att phone, I'm sure your phone isn't much different.
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rbedell said:
Did you try the new safe root .bat file? It worked on my att phone, I'm sure your phone isn't much different.
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No, I haven't. Could you please link me to it?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48484039

rbedell said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48484039
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Thanks bro. Do you know if it supports OTA updates?

Mekanikz said:
Thanks bro. Do you know if it supports OTA updates?
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As long as you don't mess with the update programs from your carrier you should be good. It is a good idea to use super user pro and do a root survival anytime you get an ota update. Going to sleep now, have fun.
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rbedell said:
As long as you don't mess with the update programs from your carrier you should be good. It is a good idea to use super user pro and do a root survival anytime you get an ota update. Going to sleep now, have fun.
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Thanks. Goodnight and happy new years.

Mekanikz said:
Thanks. Goodnight and happy new years.
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You too buddy.
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Questions and help issues go in Q&A and Help section
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How to flash Android 4.4 on rooted phone

My phone is rooted so i might not get 4.4 update.
I have downloaded 4.4.2 for i9500 but i don't know how to put it to my phone as i have rooted my first phone.
Can any one guide me how to flash it to my phone?

Using odin. There is a lot of guides on the web
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bluenim said:
Using odin. There is a lot of guides on the web
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Tell me where to download odin from?
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Hi,
look here

Morbihan said:
Hi,
look here
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Also I want a detailed information will my root still work ? And ahould I flash the russian firmware will it be in english? I dont speak russian and my phone is in english ? Or should I wait for now?
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thahim said:
Also I want a detailed information will my root still work ? And ahould I flash the russian firmware will it be in english? I dont speak russian and my phone is in english ? Or should I wait for now?
Also tell me will knox in 4.4.2 create any problem?
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For the root, you will have to do it again. It's not a problem.
For Knox, make your own opinion
And read, read, read the topics

Morbihan said:
For the root, you will have to do it again. It's not a problem.
For Knox, make your own opinion
And read, read, read the topics
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I disabled knox on my current rom but I dont remember how I did. Can you please tell me the procedure step by step of flashing and rooting 4.4.2
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Ap0rd said:
Are there any disadvantages of flashing russian 4.4 update in another region?
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AFAIK, there are none. It is only that you have some Russian apps preinstalled on the system. You can remove them anyway.

deandoi said:
AFAIK, there are none. It is only that you have some Russian apps preinstalled on the system. You can remove them anyway.
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Can it be rooted?
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[Q] Root method 4.4.2?

Hi i was just wondering if there has been a root method for the 4.4.2 OTA update. I updated a few weeks back and have been dying for root access.
The baseband version is N900VVRUCNC4.
Thanks in advance!

Notta

Like I said. Oughta sticky one of these so there aren't 8 million threads asking the same question.

droidstyle said:
Notta
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Think there's any possibility we'll get it? I would hate to have to sell this device and move on

Im sure there will be in time?

Would we be able to downgrade thru Odin and then root and then flash rooted version of 4.4.2?

MSI1SuPeRmAn said:
Im sure there will be in time?
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I hope so. I really should have rooted earlier lol

Merckle said:
Would we be able to downgrade thru Odin and then root and then flash rooted version of 4.4.2?
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Not at this point in time.
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Doubt it...most of the devs that might be capable moved on from Verizon and really do not care. The reason being soon as a exploit is found and released it then is patched by the next update. It's a cat and mouse game not worth playing. There are methods out there that allow you have rooted 4.4.2, The sticky at the top of this section explains it all. "Never Accept OTA Updates".

droidstyle said:
Doubt it...most of the devs that might be capable moved on from Verizon and really do not care. The reason being soon as a exploit is found and released it then is patched by the next update. It's a cat and mouse game not worth playing. There are methods out there that allow you have rooted 4.4.2, The sticky at the top of this section explains it all. "Never Accept OTA Updates".
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I found this out there do you think this might work for root access....
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/root-galax...oid-4-4-2-kitkat-install-cwm-recovery-1435188
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waco2hot33 said:
I found this out there do you think this might work for root access....
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/root-galax...oid-4-4-2-kitkat-install-cwm-recovery-1435188
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Good fine hopefully it does but be careful don't know if it matters or not but it does trip knox and it says sm-900 so if you can afford to go for then go.let us know what happens.
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waco2hot33 said:
I found this out there do you think this might work for root access....
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/root-galax...oid-4-4-2-kitkat-install-cwm-recovery-1435188
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No The Verizon N3 is model N900V and this article deals with the UK model N900
Also, in the UK the status of the Knox warranty counter doesn't matter. In the US it does.
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donc113 said:
No The Verizon N3 is model N900V and this article deals with the UK model N900
Also, in the UK the status of the Knox warranty counter doesn't matter. In the US it does.
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Thanks @donc113 I wasn't sure ...thanks for clearing that up for us ..
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waco2hot33 said:
Thanks @donc113 I wasn't sure ...thanks for clearing that up for us ..
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Did anyone actually try this? How did it go?

neur0t0xin64 said:
Did anyone actually try this? How did it go?
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nope never tried it myself didn't want to take the chance after donc replied..
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