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[Q] GTi9505 = AT&T i337?

Hi, so I understand the differences between the 9500 vs the 9505.
I'm buying another s4 off of contract, so I am looking for the best spec since I am paying full price for the phone.
If I am going to use the phone on the AT&T network (need a phone that utilizes AT&T LTE), (also spend time in Korea so international use would be nice), are these unlocked carrier-free 9505s any different than the AT&T i337?
Is the unlocked version (9505) run more bands than the i337?
TIA.

Just found my answer on Wiki, seems the LTE bands are different.
9505:
800, 850, GSM, 1800 MHz, IMT, IMT-E
vs
i337:
700 MHz (Band 17), AWS, IMT, IMT-E

edmchoi said:
Just found my answer on Wiki, seems the LTE bands are different.
9505:
800, 850, GSM, 1800 MHz, IMT, IMT-E
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i337:
700 MHz (Band 17), AWS, IMT, IMT-E
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The I9505 is also the only variant that has FM radio

So does this generally mean that the 9505 will not run on the AT&T LTE network? I'm also in the market for a full-price S4 ... that I'd like to use on AT&T while in the US but also have capability to swap SIM cards and use in Japan, South Korea, Spain and Norway. Thoughts?

KillaHurtz said:
The I9505 is also the only variant that has FM radio
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it does? my i9505 doesn't.
jerzyboy2421 said:
So does this generally mean that the 9505 will not run on the AT&T LTE network? I'm also in the market for a full-price S4 ... that I'd like to use on AT&T while in the US but also have capability to swap SIM cards and use in Japan, South Korea, Spain and Norway. Thoughts?
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the i9505 will work on 3G on AT&T, but not 4G. as for the other countries, look up their mobile frequencies and compare it to the i9505's. For example, here are AT&T's frequencies.

[Q] S4 active AT&T to international i9295?

The US (still AT&T exclusive?) S4 active has LTE bands around 1700 MHz, while i9295 does not and instead has the 1800 MHz band (which is widely used in Europe, and is not apparently present in AT&T S4 active).
Can those bands be "converted" by software in any way?

[Q] S5 international models & LTE band support?

hello all-
has XDA (or any other site) released a hardware list for the regional S5 models with the differences in hardware and especially LTE band support?
It's pretty frustrating in 2014 that Samsung *still* appears to be forcing regional divisions on its customers; especially when the Nexus 5 has already proven that support for many different regional frequency bands can be included in a single device.
There's no reason for it whatsoever except to inflict artificial restrictions on where customers can buy, and where they can use a phone. If I buy a phone outright I expect to be able to use it anywhere. If I travel, why should my original carrier dictate who I can get coverage from?

amrando said:
hello all-
has XDA (or any other site) released a hardware list for the regional S5 models with the differences in hardware and especially LTE band support?
It's pretty frustrating in 2014 that Samsung *still* appears to be forcing regional divisions on its customers; especially when the Nexus 5 has already proven that support for many different regional frequency bands can be included in a single device.
There's no reason for it whatsoever except to inflict artificial restrictions on where customers can buy, and where they can use a phone. If I buy a phone outright I expect to be able to use it anywhere. If I travel, why should my original carrier dictate who I can get coverage from?
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Try to get the S5 Google Play edition. Google Play edition smartphones and tablets are carrier unlocked and unbranded. Instead of having a massive Verizon 4G LTE logo, or a phone that only works on AT&T bands, buying from the Play Store you’ll receive a completely untethered smartphone. The Galaxy S4 Google edition works on AT&T, T-Mobile, and around the world. There’s no contract required, and you can use it on a variety of carriers in the US, and abroad. So, I think, the S5 will work the same or better.

hemander said:
Try to get the S5 Google Play edition. Google Play edition smartphones and tablets are carrier unlocked and unbranded. Instead of having a massive Verizon 4G LTE logo, or a phone that only works on AT&T bands, buying from the Play Store you’ll receive a completely untethered smartphone. The Galaxy S4 Google edition works on AT&T, T-Mobile, and around the world. There’s no contract required, and you can use it on a variety of carriers in the US, and abroad. So, I think, the S5 will work the same or better.
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That sounds reasonable and logical, but is that really the case? What were the hardware specs of the S4 GP edition? Wasn't it just an unbranded SGH-1337- which then has no LTE support on T-Mobile or anywhere outside North America?
What I'm looking for is a device that is universal around the world, or around the country (US/Canada/Europe/Asia). I want a phone that (like the the N5) for example won't be kneecapped to HSPA or vanilla GSM when I travel to Europe, Japan, China or Hong Kong; or if I switch carriers within Canada. The N5 claims to support over half a dozen LTE bands, ensuring it can find one supported in essentially every region. Samsung still appears to be trying to artificially partition markets by radio and other features, much like many electronics manufacturers do with artificial trade barriers like region-encoding on DVDs, Blu-Rays or video games.

hemander said:
Try to get the S5 Google Play edition. Google Play edition smartphones and tablets are carrier unlocked and unbranded. Instead of having a massive Verizon 4G LTE logo, or a phone that only works on AT&T bands, buying from the Play Store you’ll receive a completely untethered smartphone. The Galaxy S4 Google edition works on AT&T, T-Mobile, and around the world. There’s no contract required, and you can use it on a variety of carriers in the US, and abroad. So, I think, the S5 will work the same or better.
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You should really read the specs of the phone before posting wrong information.
S4 GE won't support LTE abroad. LTE will only work on AT&T and T-mobile.
S5 GE is not yet even announced.
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amrando said:
That sounds reasonable and logical, but is that really the case? What were the hardware specs of the S4 GP edition? Wasn't it just an unbranded SGH-1337- which then has no LTE support on T-Mobile or anywhere outside North America?
What I'm looking for is a device that is universal around the world, or around the country (US/Canada/Europe/Asia). I want a phone that (like the the N5) for example won't be kneecapped to HSPA or vanilla GSM when I travel to Europe, Japan, China or Hong Kong; or if I switch carriers within Canada. The N5 claims to support over half a dozen LTE bands, ensuring it can find one supported in essentially every region. Samsung still appears to be trying to artificially partition markets by radio and other features, much like many electronics manufacturers do with artificial trade barriers like region-encoding on DVDs, Blu-Rays or video games.
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There is no such phone.
N5 of North American edition doesn't work on LTE in Europe. Neither N5 of European edition works on LTE in the US.
NA and EU LTE bands are different.

Ugh
I'm not going to get any carrier renewal benefit, so I'm just going to have to pay full freight for this phone. So since I'm paying full price, I might as well get the best phone. I want a 32GB version (have the 32gb s4), that does LTE in NA. I'd rather not get an AT&T phone (locked bootloader crap that has forced me to get repairs on my own dime on my phone so I don't get a locked version from the mothership).
Sounds like the GP version is best, then I can slap it on At&T network, any other ideas? The Rogers S4s seems to have so many issues with ROM upgrades and such... So painful!

Samsung SM-G900F for Europe
Samsung SM-G900I for Asia
Samsung SM-G900K/G900L/G900S for Korea
Samsung SM-G900M for Vodafone
Samsung SM-G900A for AT&T
Samsung SM-G900T for T-Mobile
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900F
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900M
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T
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NK-SOFT said:
Samsung SM-G900F for Europe
Samsung SM-G900I for Asia
Samsung SM-G900K/G900L/G900S for Korea
Samsung SM-G900M for Vodafone
Samsung SM-G900A for AT&T
Samsung SM-G900T for T-Mobile
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900F
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900M
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T
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No frequencies specifications for SM-G900K/G900L/G900S ?

arronov said:
No frequencies specifications for SM-G900K/G900L/G900S ?
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I think it very similer to sm-g900f
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sorry to revive this, but i want to clarify.
if i buy the 900f, european version, will i get LTE data in canada on the Rogers network? i believe rogers uses the same bands as At&T...
i been seeing different things posted on the internet which has me very confused....
it seems like the supported LTE bands are similar between the european version and the at&t version..with the exception of two bands...
any expert can chime in on this please? thanks..

kl25 said:
sorry to revive this, but i want to clarify.
if i buy the 900f, european version, will i get LTE data in canada on the Rogers network?
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It would have been better if you started a new thread.
To answer your question, the 900F shares most of the LTE bands that Rogers uses. So assuming that your 900F is provisioned for Rogers LTE.. yes you will get Rogers LTE data. The 900F does not support Rogers LTE bands B4/17 (or 3G B4), but they are not much used yet, so you shouldn't incur any gaps in coverage.
In the future you may miss B17 more as it is new and uncongested spectrum that just rolled out in Vancouver, Calgary and Toronto. And being a low frequency is particularly good at penetrating into buildings. But for the moment, you'll be good.
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What about Samsung GALAXY S5 4G mobile dual sim customized version G9008W, will it work with the European 3G networks?

My SM-G9008W works in th US on T-mobile 3G network perfectly. But no LTE.
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maoaichiyu said:
My SM-G9008W works in th US on T-mobile 3G network perfectly. But no LTE.
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My G9008W work perfectly in France with LTE with band 1800 and 2600
But it seem that it has no B20 (800Mhz), but i am not sure ...
It work also in 3G (900 and 2100) and 2G, of course
Just ont think: unlike the Galaxy S4 Duo, it is not dual active, only one sim in communication at a time ...

Samsung Galaxy SM-G900F
arronov said:
No frequencies specifications for SM-G900K/G900L/G900S ?
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I have Samsung S5 G900F and i am using it in pakistan with Warid LTE Sim but i did not seen auto connect menu for LTE where as i am able to use LTE perfectly with hidden Service Mode. any body can guide me how i can get aut connect Menu for LTE without Rooting my phone.
Thanks

[Q] Which Unlocked S5 model to buy for AT&T?

I hope I am not duplicating a thread that already exists.
I want to buy a Galaxy S5, but I don't want to buy the AT&T version.
I would prefer to buy an unlocked version that will work with AT&T's LTE.
I know there are various versions on the S5, but I'm just not certain which one is compatible with AT&T's network.
Thanks for any assistance.

I have looked into this a few days back, and it seems the TMobile US version is the best. But if you can wait a little longer, the LG G3 is out which on paper, is better than the S5.
3gb RAM (there is a 2gb RAM version)
Quad HD display (4x than on the S5)
3000mAh battery (user changeable)
Built -in Qi wireless receiver and NFC on the REMOVABLE battery cover (this is by default, unlike crapsung that sells the Qi/NFC enabled battery cover, which makes the phone thicker, and very difficult to find a case that fits)
No Knox to worry about.

Hi, I have the Unlocked SM-G900M (Vodafone version) which works well with AT&T LTE Network (I have Straight Talk). You can root it easily and install most S5 custom ROMs.

I personally has unlocked tmobile version which works fine with at&t lte

I would have to disagree and say that the international Snapdragon LTE version is the model you should get if you are planning to buy unlocked!
Why bother to be bogged down by bloatware and craptacular carrier customizations? Why endure long times for software updates?
On another note, I agree with what another guy mentioned, wait for the LG G3!
No, seriously, wait for the G3. Don't let us down.

mediumsteak said:
I would have to disagree and say that the international Snapdragon LTE version is the model you should get if you are planning to buy unlocked!
Why bother to be bogged down by bloatware and craptacular carrier customizations? Why endure long times for software updates?
On another note, I agree with what another guy mentioned, wait for the LG G3!
No, seriously, wait for the G3. Don't let us down.
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But you would be wrong to go this way since the International LTE (SM-G900F) won't work on AT&T LTE Network. LTE Frequencies are different and would be able to get 3G only. The SM-G900M seems to be a good compromise since it allows both 'european' and AT&T frequencies. This is based on my researches, but it may not be totally true since I only tested the M version and AT&T LTE Network.
LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900F
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900M
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T
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Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5-6033.php
AT&T only uses LTE on the 700 MHz (Band 17) and 1700/2100 MHz (Band 4) frequencies.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies#United_States

damskyc said:
But you would be wrong to go this way since the International LTE (SM-G900F) won't work on AT&T LTE Network. LTE Frequencies are different and would be able to get 3G only. The SM-G900M seems to be a good compromise since it allows both 'european' and AT&T frequencies. This is based on my researches, but it may not be totally true since I only tested the M version and AT&T LTE Network.
Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5-6033.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies#United_States
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That is why I said the Tmobile variant is the way to go. Look at your chart, it covers what the "M" version has and adds more...

mediumsteak said:
I would have to disagree and say that the international Snapdragon LTE version is the model you should get if you are planning to buy unlocked!
Why bother to be bogged down by bloatware and craptacular carrier customizations? Why endure long times for software updates?
On another note, I agree with what another guy mentioned, wait for the LG G3!
No, seriously, wait for the G3. Don't let us down.
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Just curious but how do you know the AT&T G3 isn't going to have a locked bootloader? I'd be willing to bet it will have one.
Nice specs though
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First Hand Answer
My entire day today was literally spent A)Selling 900A on Craigslist B)Buying 900T on Craigslist. I broke completely even, $500 sold for and bought for.
Anecdotes aside--
The 900T covers all bands (you can look at the Samsung spec pages if you want source) that the 900A does and just sings. I now have a slimmed down lady that just flies.
The 900T is without question the phone to go with, if ANYBODY says on any forums they are having issues it's software or APN configuration they did incorrectly. Mines perfect and rooted with that sexy unlocked boot loader. I think i'll be staying here for a while.
As for the LG G3 comments, definitely nice specs but i'm not able to f with a device without capacitive buttons. I'm not down with losing screen to OSD bottom buttons.

[Q] Using my Galaxy S5 G900F in Canada?

Hi all, I'm wondering if I may trouble you with a quick question.
I recently bought a Galaxy S5 (Galaxy S5 G900F) in the hopes to have it future proof as I move to Canada next year and would like to have a solid phone for about two - three years. I'm based in Ireland at the moment and wondering can the phone be used in Canada without issue?
I was looking at a phone company (Koodo) who offer great rates and once I inputted my IMEI it stated my phone wouldn't work on their network.
Surely the S5 would work on any network throughout the globe? Last year my Note 3 worked perfectly in America and it was an international edition also.
Is this a hardware issue (radios) or software (were a simple flash of a different rom could fix)?
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Regards

gbyrne2011 said:
Surely the S5 would work on any network throughout the globe?
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Okay, let me ask you this question. If the S5 should work around the world.. why does Samsung have a dozen S5 variants?
Figured it out yet? Ironically the hardware is capable of supporting all GSM and LTE bands world wide. But Samsung endeavors to sell their phones for higher prices in more affluent countries. And carriers don't want to make it easy for you to jump ship and sign your phone up to another network. So they have artificial restrictions in the firmware and other measures e.g. region locking, SIM locks, to limit what you can do. They have to allow enough compatibility that you could usually roam when traveling. But not complete compatibility or you might buy a cheaper S5 from another country. Or change carriers willy nilly.
Yup, great system.
And so it is for your phone. It will work most of the time in Canada. But it isn't 100% compatible and you may find that it can't operate on the necessary bands in fringe areas or for niche carriers.
Most of the bands are the same between the S5 900F (yours) and the S5 900W8 (Canada)
The differences, I believe are:
2G: same for both
3G: Most bands are the same. But you have B8(900) in place of Canadian band B4(1700 aka AWS)
4G: Most bands are the same. But you have B5(850), B20(800) instead of Canadian bands B4(1700 aka AWS), B17(700)
In the case of Fido, their site says:
Fido said:
Things to Know
Your device must be compatible with the Fido network, which uses GSM, UMTS, HSPA and HSPA+ at 850 MHz and 1900 MHz and LTE at 2100 MHz and 2600 MHz. If you are unsure of how to check the frequencies your device supports, try the manufacturer's official website and search for the specifications for your particular phone/smartphone model;
If your device is currently locked, it needs to be unlocked by the carrier you bought it from;
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It appears to me that your phone supports all of the Fido bands. And most, but not all of the bands on other Canadian carriers. I don't believe that your phone will work at all on niche carriers Wind or Mobilicity.
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fffft said:
Okay, let me ask you this question. If the S5 should work around the world.. why does Samsung have a dozen S5 variants?
Figured it out yet? Ironically the hardware is capable of supporting all GSM and LTE bands world wide. But Samsung endeavors to sell their phones for higher prices in more affluent countries. And carriers don't want to make it easy for you to jump ship and sign your phone up to another network. So they have artificial restrictions in the firmware and other measures e.g. region locking, SIM locks, to limit what you can do. They have to allow enough compatibility that you could usually roam when traveling. But not complete compatibility or you might buy a cheaper S5 from another country. Or change carriers willy nilly.
Yup, great system.
And so it is for your phone. It will work most of the time in Canada. But it isn't 100% compatible and you may find that it can't operate on the necessary bands in fringe areas or for niche carriers.
Most of the bands are the same between the S5 900F (yours) and the S5 900W8 (Canada)
The differences, I believe are:
2G: same for both
3G: Most bands are the same. But you have B8(900) in place of Canadian band B4(1700 aka AWS)
4G: Most bands are the same. But you have B5(850), B20(800) instead of Canadian bands B4(1700 aka AWS), B17(700)
In the case of Fido, their site says:
It appears to me that your phone supports all of the Fido bands. And most, but not all of the bands on other Canadian carriers. I don't believe that your phone will work at all on niche carriers Wind or Mobilicity.
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Thank you very much for your reply. I figured it would be something to do with the radio.. Will check the bands for the network Koodoo, if it falls in ok and I can find a firmware to flash which hopefully should do the trick. Hell I might even just sell before I go, make it easier.
Cheers

gbyrne2011 said:
Will check the bands for the network Koodoo
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Koodo is a secondary brand of Telus.
They use 3G 850 CLR/1900 PCS
And 4G /LTE 1700/2100 (and possibly 700 in the future)
You are missing their 1700 LTE band, sometimes referred to as AWS. So you will have to find out how extensively they use that band and whether it is a sole frequency in any areas.
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fffft said:
Koodo is a secondary brand of Telus.
They use 3G 850 CLR/1900 PCS
And 4G /LTE 1700/2100 (and possibly 700 in the future)
You are missing their 1700 LTE band, sometimes referred to as AWS. So you will have to find out how extensively they use that band and whether it is a sole frequency in any areas.
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Thanks very much for all your help fffft, it's much appreciated.