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[Q] Pre-ordered I9500 - LTE question

Hi,
I just confirmed my back-order for the I9500 (and the product description is mentioning LTE eu which I believe means Europe). However, I'm a T-mo subscriber.
Does any one know if T-mo will support the European LTE (or in other words - will the I9500 will work with T-mo or AT&T LTE network?)
Thanks,
Gil.

Hi! Us Tmobile User Here!
gilbnx said:
Hi,
I just confirmed my back-order for the I9500 (and the product description is mentioning LTE eu which I believe means Europe). However, I'm a T-mo subscriber.
Does any one know if T-mo will support the European LTE (or in other words - will the I9500 will work with T-mo or AT&T LTE network?)
Thanks,
Gil.
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Hi! Us Tmobile User Here! Sadly no. The i9500 does not come equipped with 4g LTE chips. Mainly due to Europe's lack of a reliable network. The i9505(international) on the other hand does support LTE, so does the us version (SGH-M919). But buying one of these phones is somewhat of a waste knowing there could be compatibility issues with your network. In simple terms, stick with you i9500. HSPA+ IS NOT BAD. On paper it has a 42mbits max while LTE IS A WHOPPING 100MBITS. But the problem is paper stats dont translate well into everyday. Many times i find my self enjoying faster speeds on my HSPA+ phone then my LTE friends, variables like network congestion and signal strengrh can all factor into this. So yeah, stick with your I9500, the lack of LTE will only save you battery:laugh:!

sofyanator said:
Hi! Us Tmobile User Here! Sadly no. The i9500 does not come equipped with 4g LTE chips. Mainly due to Europe's lack of a reliable network. The i9505(international) on the other hand does support LTE, so does the us version (SGH-M919). But buying one of these phones is somewhat of a waste knowing there could be compatibility issues with your network. In simple terms, stick with you i9500. HDSPA+ IS NOT BAD. On paper it has a 42mbits max while LTE IS A WHOPPING 100MBITS. But the problem is paper stats dont translate well into everyday. Many times i find my self enjoying faster speeds on my HSPA+ phone then my LTE friends, variables like network congestion and signal strengrh can all factor into this. So yeah, stick with your I9500, the lack of LTE will only save you battery:laugh:!
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I think that the lack of LTE for the i9500 is now updated. This is the spec from the website I've ordered the i9500 from:
Network: 2.5G (GSM/ GPRS/ EDGE): 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz; 3G (HSPA+ 42Mbps): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz; 4G (LTE Cat 3 100/50Mbps) : up to 6 different band sets(Dependent on market)
Display: 5 inch Full HD Super AMOLED (1920 x 1080) display, 441 ppi
Processor: 1.6 GHz Octa-Core Processor
OS: Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean)
(they had the rest of the spec, cam, etc. but its not relevant for this thread).
This is the site: http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-s-4-smartphone-black-mist-16gb-unlocked-247538/
As you can see, it is the 1.6Ghz Octa core and it does support LTE per this spec. The question is - will it work with the US (T-mo and AT&T) bands?
Thanks.

sofyanator said:
Hi! Us Tmobile User Here! Sadly no. The i9500 does not come equipped with 4g LTE chips. Mainly due to Europe's lack of a reliable network. The i9505(international) on the other hand does support LTE, so does the us version (SGH-M919). But buying one of these phones is somewhat of a waste knowing there could be compatibility issues with your network. In simple terms, stick with you i9500. HSPA+ IS NOT BAD. On paper it has a 42mbits max while LTE IS A WHOPPING 100MBITS. But the problem is paper stats dont translate well into everyday. Many times i find my self enjoying faster speeds on my HSPA+ phone then my LTE friends, variables like network congestion and signal strengrh can all factor into this. So yeah, stick with your I9500, the lack of LTE will only save you battery:laugh:!
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AFAIK there won't be compatibility issues because the GT-I9505 will support all global LTE frequencies and standards. And what you said about LTE in Europe is wrong. There is a "reliable" network in Europe but it works on other frequencies than in US and moreover most countries in Europe will get the GT-I9505 version only. What you said was the case with the SGS3 but now the Exynos version (GT-I9500) will be officially in only few Europe countries.

gilbnx said:
I think that the lack of LTE for the i9500 is now updated. This is the spec from the website I've ordered the i9500 from:
Network: 2.5G (GSM/ GPRS/ EDGE): 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz; 3G (HSPA+ 42Mbps): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz; 4G (LTE Cat 3 100/50Mbps) : up to 6 different band sets(Dependent on market)
Display: 5 inch Full HD Super AMOLED (1920 x 1080) display, 441 ppi
Processor: 1.6 GHz Octa-Core Processor
OS: Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean)
(they had the rest of the spec, cam, etc. but its not relevant for this thread).
This is the site: http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-s-4-smartphone-black-mist-16gb-unlocked-247538/
As you can see, it is the 1.6Ghz Octa core and it does support LTE per this spec. The question is - will it work with the US (T-mo and AT&T) bands?
Thanks.
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Negative. I spoke to them and had them look up the exact model with their procurement. The version they are getting is sourced from South America and DOES NOT have LTE despite it saying so on their website. It appears that many websites have made this same mistake because like Expansys they have simply reposted Samsungs description but it does not discern between the Korean version which is an Octa with LTE and the rest of the (announced) Octa variants which do not have LTE.

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International phones are on International Baseband. US phones are on us baseband. If they were the same then there would be no US-International. It would just be one baseband. So i doubt it will but you can still be open to possibilities.

gilbnx said:
Hi,
I just confirmed my back-order for the I9500 (and the product description is mentioning LTE eu which I believe means Europe). However, I'm a T-mo subscriber.
Does any one know if T-mo will support the European LTE (or in other words - will the I9500 will work with T-mo or AT&T LTE network?)
Thanks,
Gil.
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Can I ask, where did you preorder the GT-i9500?

Just remember, buying international phones is a PAIN for warranty. So be careful.

Nephilim-Giant said:
Just remember, buying international phones is a PAIN for warranty. So be careful.
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Warranty is not really an issue for me, just need to know where I can get the Exynos variant.

Buddy39914 said:
Warranty is not really an issue for me, just need to know where I can get the Exynos variant.
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Negri or expansys

Nephilim-Giant said:
Negri or expansys
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I've seen that, but their descriptions are really confusing. Some marked LTE, some marked LTA (not sure what that means), and some are marked just GT-i9500. Those which are marked just GT-i9500 say that they come with a quad-core, which should not be; the GT-i9500 is supposed to be octa-core. GT-i9505 is quad-core.
Which is which? Also, there are 16, 32, 64GB versions on the website; I doubt we will be seeing something higher than the 16GB version for the release.
Also, if I order the octa-core version. When will I get it, approximately?

Hi,
I'm having real trouble finding info on this so I hope you can help.
I have a standard 3uk 3g micro sim card in my international GS3. Can I use this card in an LTE enabled GS3. Is the LTE device backward compatable. I don't expect to get LTE coverage I just need to know if my sim will work as normal in an LTE device.

Yeah it is. If there's no 4G it should revert to whats next available such as 3G
Murdhie said:
Hi,
I'm having real trouble finding info on this so I hope you can help.
I have a standard 3uk 3g micro sim card in my international GS3. Can I use this card in an LTE enabled GS3. Is the LTE device backward compatable. I don't expect to get LTE coverage I just need to know if my sim will work as normal in an LTE device.
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Thank you for your reply. Amazing how hard it is to find info on such a simple question. Called three and the guy couldn't grasp what I meant.
Thanks again.

i337 works with AWS (TMOBILE, WIND, MOBILICITY )?

I'm surprised it hasn't been brought up to attention yet, but is it possible for the i337 to work on AWS band?
The reason I'm asking this is because I've found services through kijiji to modify the i337m (Canadian version) to work with WIND and MOBILICITY.
mod edit: advertising paid services is not allowed
I highly doubt those people will tell you exactly how to mod it and I don't have a S4 yet but maybe it's the same method use to mod the gnote 2.
I'm really hoping someone could try it out and see what happens, maybe even with a tutorial if it's successful.

I have seen this ad as well. I have galaxy s4 from Bell (SGH i337m). I have tried the Note 2 method but that does not work on it. There must be a new trick which someone has figured out but they are using it commercially.

the only carrier that has both aws and regular 2600mhz lte is rogers (at least in canada) and they are rebranding it to lte max
http://www.mobilemag.com/2013/05/02/rogers-launches-lte-max/
and yes, the gs4 does switch between 1700-2100 and 2600 bands and its the only phone to do it

polish_pat said:
the only carrier that has both aws and regular 2600mhz lte is rogers (at least in canada) and they are rebranding it to lte max
http://www.mobilemag.com/2013/05/02/rogers-launches-lte-max/
and yes, the gs4 does switch between 1700-2100 and 2600 bands and its the only phone to do it
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Someone in the T-Mobile S4 forum claims that the T-Mobile S4 will do it as well.

polish_pat said:
the only carrier that has both aws and regular 2600mhz lte is rogers (at least in canada) and they are rebranding it to lte max
http://www.mobilemag.com/2013/05/02/rogers-launches-lte-max/
and yes, the gs4 does switch between 1700-2100 and 2600 bands and its the only phone to do it
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Bell and Rogers will both carry the i337m model so I guess it won't make a difference either way if the phone is unlocked.
But what do you mean it can switch between 1700-2100? I didn't think aws is a original supported banned for the i337.

Originally they are able to switch between LTE Aws 1700/2100 and 2600 but the HSPA 1700/2100 is disabled in software of SGH i337 and 337m. We are talking about Kijiji ads where people are able to sim unlock and enable Hspa 1700/2100 on these phones.
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killer8297 said:
Bell and Rogers will both carry the i337m model so I guess it won't make a difference either way if the phone is unlocked.
But what do you mean it can switch between 1700-2100? I didn't think aws is a original supported banned for the i337.
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1700 and 2100mhz are the regular LTE bands, maximum theoretical speeds of 75 and 100mb/s respectively. 2600mhz is AWS, aka Rogers' LTE Max which has 150mb/s. As of now, the only carrier in Canada to have AWS is Rogers and in the US, T-Mobile seems to have it and verizon are planning for it sometime this year, AT&T seem to have it too but at 2300mhz, i'm not sure why tho. The GS4 can switch between AWS and LTE, which also mean that it will be doing that when the 700mhz spectrum war will be over. And the 700mhz war is probbaly the most important technological advance for the mobile industry as that frequency can go through very thick walls other material that greatly diminishes current LTE bands.

MY I337 does not work on T-Mobile 3G/4G only get EDGE.

Has there been any way to enable aws bands like on the note 2
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337

wait for a canadien modem to be a flashable zip

I see
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337

hyelton said:
MY I337 does not work on T-Mobile 3G/4G only get EDGE.
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That's because AT&T's S4 doesn't support those other bands. It has been reported that T-mobiles S4 does plus it also works on AT&T's network (LTE included).

scott14719 said:
That's because AT&T's S4 doesn't support those other bands. It has been reported that T-mobiles S4 does plus it also works on AT&T's network (LTE included).
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Yes I know it doesn't have it out of the box but does it have hardware for aws to be enabled
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337

dkotoric said:
Yes I know it doesn't have it out of the box but does it have hardware for aws to be enabled
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
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im pretty sure it does, it would be less expensive for samsung to disable the AWS bands by software then to create a new motherboard with other hardware that doesnt support it. I'm ready to bid 100$ that it has the hardware for it, just not active

Just to clarify some of the incorrect info / misunderstandings here:
The S3 and Note 2 (ATT / Rogers / Bell / TELUS variants) had a Qualcomm tweak that enabled AWS HSPA so that the hardware would work on T-Mobile / WIND / Mobilicity.
The question is if a similar tweak will work on the I337/M (ATT / Rogers / Bell / TELUS variants). I am curious because when I travel to the US, I use T-Mobile.
From what I read, out of the box, the T-Mobile variant of the S4 will work on all the carriers, but the ATT variant will not (like the S3 / Note 2 before it, a tweak is required).

polish_pat said:
wait for a canadien modem to be a flashable zip
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Hope it's not going to be the quality as the original gnote note, i717.

WorldIRC said:
Just to clarify some of the incorrect info / misunderstandings here:
The S3 and Note 2 (ATT / Rogers / Bell / TELUS variants) had a Qualcomm tweak that enabled AWS HSPA so that the hardware would work on T-Mobile / WIND / Mobilicity.
The question is if a similar tweak will work on the I337/M (ATT / Rogers / Bell / TELUS variants). I am curious because when I travel to the US, I use T-Mobile.
From what I read, out of the box, the T-Mobile variant of the S4 will work on all the carriers, but the ATT variant will not (like the S3 / Note 2 before it, a tweak is required).
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ive come to realize with the s4 that att and perhaps other us carriers are plain simple assholes. Sure, you might have a 2 year contract when us canadiens have 3 years contracts, but at least we have unlocked bootloaders, we can use hotspotting without carriers shutting us down, we dont have throttling and we have the 50gb dropbox offer regardless if our carrier has its own cloud storage.

polish_pat said:
ive come to realize with the s4 that att and perhaps other us carriers are plain simple assholes. Sure, you might have a 2 year contract when us canadiens have 3 years contracts, but at least we have unlocked bootloaders, we can use hotspotting without carriers shutting us down, we dont have throttling and we have the 50gb dropbox offer regardless if our carrier has its own cloud storage.
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Our rates are cheaper now anyways. Our $65-$85 plans in Canada are $120 in the US. But back on topic...
Is our bootloader I337M for sure unlocked? Are you sure?

WorldIRC said:
Our rates are cheaper now anyways. Our $65-$85 plans in Canada are $120 in the US. But back on topic...
Is our bootloader I337M for sure unlocked? Are you sure?
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100%, there are many many people in the forum that have the canadian variant and are running a custom recovery. I would do it, but i wont touch any rooting or recovery until an OTA come and fixes the lag issues

Sorry guys but I do not exactly understand if the S4 can work on Wind Mobile or not?
I have a Nexus 4 which I want to sell (tired of terrible battery life with an average camera) and I want to buy the Rogers S4. If I were to unlock the S4 can it run on Wind Mobile 3G?
Thanks in advance.

[Q] Using LG G2 on StraightTalk T-mobile sim

I am currently on StraightTalk service using a t-mobile sim. I am interested in purchasing the LG G2 with my current sim. Before doing so, I wanted to see if anyone has any feedback with using the 4G LTE services with their T-mobile sim on Straighttalk?
Do you have any suggestions on where I can purchase a T-mobile compatible LG G2? I did find one on negri electronics but it did not mention that it was T-mobile compatible (The T-mobile site doesn't have an option to purchase the LG G2 unlocked currently).
I would appreciate any pointers in purchasing this phone unlocked, looks like an awesome phone!!

mithr4ndir said:
I am currently on StraightTalk service using a t-mobile sim. I am interested in purchasing the LG G2 with my current sim. Before doing so, I wanted to see if anyone has any feedback with using the 4G LTE services with their T-mobile sim on Straighttalk?
Do you have any suggestions on where I can purchase a T-mobile compatible LG G2? I did find one on negri electronics but it did not mention that it was T-mobile compatible (The T-mobile site doesn't have an option to purchase the LG G2 unlocked currently).
I would appreciate any pointers in purchasing this phone unlocked, looks like an awesome phone!!
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IIRC the tmobile, att, and international editions are the same hardware wise. I'd double check, but buying the ATT version unlocked is the cheapest way to do it.

mithr4ndir said:
I am currently on StraightTalk service using a t-mobile sim. I am interested in purchasing the LG G2 with my current sim. Before doing so, I wanted to see if anyone has any feedback with using the 4G LTE services with their T-mobile sim on Straighttalk?
Do you have any suggestions on where I can purchase a T-mobile compatible LG G2? I did find one on negri electronics but it did not mention that it was T-mobile compatible (The T-mobile site doesn't have an option to purchase the LG G2 unlocked currently).
I would appreciate any pointers in purchasing this phone unlocked, looks like an awesome phone!!
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I bought mine retail at the AT&T store and they gave me an unlock code over the phone the same day. I then tried my T-mobile SIM card in it and it worked fine (and I got LTE). But I don't know if the AT&T version has the 1700mhz band for T-mobile's non-LTE 4G. I am assuming it does not.
I just got an email notification today that the T-mobile version is available for purchase. You might look into just buying it form T-mobile. I assume they will have it in their store very shortly and that will surely have the 1700mhz band for if you do not live in a refarmed 1900mhz area.
Cheers,
-Collin-

Straight Talk has AT&T LTE now. That's what I am doing when my contract expires in a few months.

Did some more googling
"LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900
WCDMA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
AT&T version (D800) does not support WCDMA 1700 / T-Mobile version (D801) does not support LTE 850"
May or may not be a firmware thing.
Not much mention of the tmobile variant anywhere, everyone has the att version to test. However the tmobile press release did say 1700/2100

Geekybiker said:
Did some more googling
"LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900
WCDMA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
AT&T version (D800) does not support WCDMA 1700 / T-Mobile version (D801) does not support LTE 850"
May or may not be a firmware thing.
Not much mention of the tmobile variant anywhere, everyone has the att version to test. However the tmobile press release did say 1700/2100
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I wonder if the D801 has band 17 for AT&T LTE. That's 700mhz right?
-Collin-

CollinFX45 said:
I wonder if the D801 has band 17 for AT&T LTE. That's 700mhz right?
-Collin-
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The Snapdraon 800 chipset has built in LTE, and Qualcomm made a big fuss about it being "world LTE". On top of that the chipset is supposed to have a configurable radio, so my guess would be each version of the phone should support everything and it would be the firmware that enables or disables different frequencies.
the Snapdragon 800 includes “True 4G LTE World Mode” with LTE FDD, LTE TDD, WCDMA, CDMA1x, EV-DO, TD-SCDMA, and GSM 4G LTE with Carrier Aggregation.
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Although I am no dev and I dont recommend just trying this, it would be interesting if a real developer could look to see if firmware could be cross flashed to enable a different radio band on this phone since it is all the same hardware and the chipset its self supports all of it.

EniGmA1987 said:
The Snapdraon 800 chipset has built in LTE, and Qualcomm made a big fuss about it being "world LTE". On top of that the chipset is supposed to have a configurable radio, so my guess would be each version of the phone should support everything and it would be the firmware that enables or disables different frequencies.
Although I am no dev and I dont recommend just trying this, it would be interesting if a real developer could look to see if firmware could be cross flashed to enable a different radio band on this phone since it is all the same hardware and the chipset its self supports all of it.
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Good information and a good idea. It's good to know that the hardware is there, so maybe if the need arose then a dev would look into this.
-Collin-

Note3 AT&T VS T-Mobile

Hi, Does any know if its all vice versa?
NOTE3 AT&T and T-Mobile NOTE3 using it with a T-Mobile SIM, (vice versa) T-mobile & A&T NOTE3 using AT&T SIM?
(Both NOTE3 is unlocked & using in urban BIG city)
Will there be any difference speed LTE and speed 3G & 4G you receive?
Will the LTE signal not be as strong each other?
Will be any problem each other (vice versa)?
Do you think we can enable AWS on NOTE3 AT&T? (same like Note2 and S4 AT&T)
Which hardware Note3 AT&T or T-Mobile is better having multi-LTE or more compability network each other (freq band spectrum)?
I don't really know much about LTE signals between AT&T and T-Mobile, compatibility, etc. So, I was wondering if you can help me to decide which one are those? How long to get unlock code from the 1st day i purchased with full price NOTE3 AT&T and T-Mobile?
Please...please... help for answer & information. I'm very appreciate and thank you so much for explanation everything. :good::victory:
P.S. Sorry & apologize about my bad english

If S4 history repeats itself the ATT buyers will be stung with crappy locked bootloaders. Meanwhile the TMO device is pentaband and unlocked bootloader. Depending on battery life benchmarks the only sane decision is between TMO Note 3 and the international N3.

I posted a poll about carrier selection last week
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443383
Regarding your question, I opted for the T-Mobile version. Location will determine network performance...

staryoshi said:
I posted a poll about carrier selection last week
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443383
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Sorry for re-posting again, peace out

CrashTestDroid said:
If S4 history repeats itself the ATT buyers will be stung with crappy locked bootloaders. Meanwhile the TMO device is pentaband and unlocked bootloader. Depending on battery life benchmarks the only sane decision is between TMO Note 3 and the international N3.
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But am i right?, Note3 International may not be able to use in T-Mobile LTE, right? thanks

Not to hijack the thread but does anyone know which one would be compatible for Wind/Mobilcity (Aws Canadian Market)?
Note 3 from At&Tor T-Mobile... in the past I believe T-Mobile phones are compatible because of 1700 and 2100 frequencies... however due to T-Mobile refarming (I have limited knowledge about it) and new frequencies.... would an At&t note 3 be modified to work on aws
????

bongbongcong said:
But am i right?, Note3 International may not be able to use in T-Mobile LTE, right? thanks
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To my knowledge, the international Note 3 does not have LTE radios. It has an octacore instead of quad but thats the trade off.

pewterwest said:
To my knowledge, the international Note 3 does not have LTE radios. It has an octacore instead of quad but thats the trade off.
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There are two models: one is the octa-core with no LTE. The other is Snapdragon 800 with LTE. However, both will only get HSPA+ on AT&T (anywhere) and HSPA+ on T-Mobile (in refarmed areas). The international LTE model won't get US LTE because we don't use the same LTE bands as they do in Europe.
In the US, if you're on a GSM network the best model to get is the T-Mobile model, even if you're on AT&T. It works 100% with AT&T and T-Mobile (refarmed areas or not) and has an unlocked bootloader.

Product F(RED) said:
There are two models: one is the octa-core with no LTE. The other is Snapdragon 800 with LTE. However, both will only get HSPA+ on AT&T (anywhere) and HSPA+ on T-Mobile (in refarmed areas). The international LTE model won't get US LTE because we don't use the same LTE bands as they do in Europe.
In the US, if you're on a GSM network the best model to get is the T-Mobile model, even if you're on AT&T. It works 100% with AT&T and T-Mobile (refarmed areas or not) and has an unlocked bootloader.
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I apologize to bring up an old thread, but I figured I'd ask it here as opposed to starting yet another thread.
Do you know if the Tmobile Note 3 is pentaband (i.e., like the Nexus 4/5)? I'm planning to use it outside of the US and just need to know if it can get 3G in European countries.
A poster above mentioned that the Tmobile Note 3 version is pentaband, but googling for the answer to this has yielded no solid results.
Thanks!

Here is the T-mo website:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones_data_devices/android/samsung-galaxy-note-3
here is the frequencies:
Network
3G/4G/LTE Capable
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
3G/UMTS: Band I (UMTS 2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100/AWS), Band V (850)
LTE: Band 4, Band 17, Band 1(2100), Band 2(1900), 5(850), 7(2600)

PoisonWolf said:
I apologize to bring up an old thread, but I figured I'd ask it here as opposed to starting yet another thread.
Do you know if the Tmobile Note 3 is pentaband (i.e., like the Nexus 4/5)? I'm planning to use it outside of the US and just need to know if it can get 3G in European countries.
A poster above mentioned that the Tmobile Note 3 version is pentaband, but googling for the answer to this has yielded no solid results.
Thanks!
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Yes. 850/900/1800/1900 on EDGE, and 850/[900 isn't mentioned but I assume it's there]/1700/1900/2100 for HSPA+. It should work fine.
EDIT: Confirmed 900 MHz is there. Look at the last post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536817
Europe uses 900 and 2100 MHz for HSPA+ mainly. Both are supported. The AT&T version would also work fine, but the T-Mobile version is the best one to get because of the unlocked bootloader and additional AWS support (1700 MHz), which T-Mobile uses in the US. To me it's worth paying a little more for the T-Mobile version.

Product F(RED) said:
Yes. 850/900/1800/1900 on EDGE, and 850/[900 isn't mentioned but I assume it's there]/1700/1900/2100 for HSPA+. It should work fine.
EDIT: Confirmed 900 MHz is there. Look at the last post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536817
Europe uses 900 and 2100 MHz for HSPA+ mainly. Both are supported. The AT&T version would also work fine, but the T-Mobile version is the best one to get because of the unlocked bootloader and additional AWS support (1700 MHz), which T-Mobile uses in the US. To me it's worth paying a little more for the T-Mobile version.
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Thanks Fred, I knew I could count on you. Cheers mate. Calling T-Mobile is never useful for these types of things. Hopefully my question here can be picked up by google searches so other people can see your link.

PoisonWolf said:
Thanks Fred, I knew I could count on you. Cheers mate. Calling T-Mobile is never useful for these types of things. Hopefully my question here can be picked up by google searches so other people can see your link.
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Exactly what happened for me. It was the top xda result for me.
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Canadian model pentaband?

I am trying to work out what I need to do get a pentaband model Note 4 when it comes out. I have tried to research this through the history of the Note 3 but I'm still confused. Ideally (coming from a Nexus 5) I want the phone unlocked (bootloader and SIM) and I need all five UMTS bands including 1700. I believe I could get what I need from T-Mobile but getting it would be a bit of a pain. Could I get what I need from Wind? It seems all Canadian models are the same (W8) but they just have different ROMs that only enable some of the frequencies? Is it the case that there are just simply two models of hardware - Exynos and Snapdragon and with the latter you can put any carrier-specific ROM on it? Coming from the Nexus world this plethora of models is all very confusing.

2xbass said:
I am trying to work out what I need to do get a pentaband model Note 4 when it comes out. I have tried to research this through the history of the Note 3 but I'm still confused. Ideally (coming from a Nexus 5) I want the phone unlocked (bootloader and SIM) and I need all five UMTS bands including 1700. I believe I could get what I need from T-Mobile but getting it would be a bit of a pain. Could I get what I need from Wind? It seems all Canadian models are the same (W8) but they just have different ROMs that only enable some of the frequencies? Is it the case that there are just simply two models of hardware - Exynos and Snapdragon and with the latter you can put any carrier-specific ROM on it? Coming from the Nexus world this plethora of models is all very confusing.
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I'm in a similar boat to you on Wind Mobile.
The Snapdragon version will probably be the one you want to get, as the Exynos versions have historically received very little development, owing largely to Samsung's lack of documentation. Note 3 Exynos I think did not even get CM, because of Samsung's lack of documentation.
Gobi 9x35 model should be accompanying the Snapdragon 805.
It should support the following:
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 850 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
It's likely that there will be a Wind variant that comes out later this year. Historically, Wind has taken a couple of months after launch b efore getting it.

I was reading elsewhere that T-Mobile won't sell me an unlocked phone unless I've been a customer of theirs for a while. So what I'm seeing is this:
a) The only versions I can buy online such as from deltamobiles or canadagsm or expansys are the Exynos version which has no 1700 band support.
b) Wind might not release the Note 4 for months after other carriers.
c) I can't buy one from T-Mobile even if I drive over the border to get one in person.
Seems like a pretty screwed-up system to me. Looks like I might as well just stay in the Nexus family and get the Nexus 6. Samsung sales are already down and with the iPhone 6 there are already reports of many people making the move to iOS now that they have bigger screens. Samsung needs to make the buying experience easier if they have any hope of staying in the game.

sauron0101 said:
I'm in a similar boat to you on Wind Mobile.
The Snapdragon version will probably be the one you want to get, as the Exynos versions have historically received very little development, owing largely to Samsung's lack of documentation. Note 3 Exynos I think did not even get CM, because of Samsung's lack of documentation.
Gobi 9x35 model should be accompanying the Snapdragon 805.
It should support the following:
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 850 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
It's likely that there will be a Wind variant that comes out later this year. Historically, Wind has taken a couple of months after launch b efore getting it.
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t-mobile/videotron/Wind.....same phone same band...
if my memory dont drive me wrong...t-mobile and videotron are on the 4g (hspda) 1700 band not sure about Wind however...

That makes sense to me but was that actually the case with the Note 3?I thought all Canadian carriers had the same W8 model?