Hi, so I understand the differences between the 9500 vs the 9505.
I'm buying another s4 off of contract, so I am looking for the best spec since I am paying full price for the phone.
If I am going to use the phone on the AT&T network (need a phone that utilizes AT&T LTE), (also spend time in Korea so international use would be nice), are these unlocked carrier-free 9505s any different than the AT&T i337?
Is the unlocked version (9505) run more bands than the i337?
TIA.
Just found my answer on Wiki, seems the LTE bands are different.
9505:
800, 850, GSM, 1800 MHz, IMT, IMT-E
vs
i337:
700 MHz (Band 17), AWS, IMT, IMT-E
edmchoi said:
Just found my answer on Wiki, seems the LTE bands are different.
9505:
800, 850, GSM, 1800 MHz, IMT, IMT-E
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i337:
700 MHz (Band 17), AWS, IMT, IMT-E
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The I9505 is also the only variant that has FM radio
So does this generally mean that the 9505 will not run on the AT&T LTE network? I'm also in the market for a full-price S4 ... that I'd like to use on AT&T while in the US but also have capability to swap SIM cards and use in Japan, South Korea, Spain and Norway. Thoughts?
KillaHurtz said:
The I9505 is also the only variant that has FM radio
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it does? my i9505 doesn't.
jerzyboy2421 said:
So does this generally mean that the 9505 will not run on the AT&T LTE network? I'm also in the market for a full-price S4 ... that I'd like to use on AT&T while in the US but also have capability to swap SIM cards and use in Japan, South Korea, Spain and Norway. Thoughts?
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the i9505 will work on 3G on AT&T, but not 4G. as for the other countries, look up their mobile frequencies and compare it to the i9505's. For example, here are AT&T's frequencies.
I spend 50% of my time in the US and 50% of my time in Canada and have a contract with both AT&T and with Rogers.
I am going to buy the S4 soon. Should I get the SGH-I337 variant with AT&T or the SGH-I337m variant with Rogers?
In about 14 months, I will be back in Canada (on Rogers) permanently. So far, I am leaning towards the AT&T variant due to greater rom availability, but I am worried about whether the S4 will work on Rogers 3G bands and LTE network.
The reason I am worried is that I am currently using an unlocked Sprint BB Tour 9630 Quadband on Rogers with specs:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 2100
CDMA/EVDO Rev A 800/1900
And the Roger's EDGE network barely functions on that phone (many disconnects).
I am a little unfamiliar with network bands, but can you let me know if the phone's 3G radio and LTE radio are identical across Rogers and AT&T?
I read somewhere that Rogers S4 uses 2600 MHz LTE Band and AT&T uses 700 MHz LTE. Is this true? Or does this phone have both LTE bands built in?
Thank you!
The US (still AT&T exclusive) S4 active has LTE bands around 1700 MHz, while i9295 does not and instead has the 1800 MHz band (which is widely used, and is not apparently present in AT&T S4 active).
Can those bands be "converted" by software in any way?
xclub_101 said:
The US (still AT&T exclusive) S4 active has LTE bands around 1700 MHz, while i9295 does not and instead has the 1800 MHz band (which is widely used, and is not apparently present in AT&T S4 active).
Can those bands be "converted" by software in any way?
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I'm assuming this is a no since there are no responses to it lol
You can NOT "convert" some hardware distinctness by software...
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You can NOT "convert" some hardware distinctness by software...
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That's what i assumed. I'm disappointed by that but i can't complain since i was given my phone. I'll deal with HSPA+ The phone is a lot better than my s3
hello all-
has XDA (or any other site) released a hardware list for the regional S5 models with the differences in hardware and especially LTE band support?
It's pretty frustrating in 2014 that Samsung *still* appears to be forcing regional divisions on its customers; especially when the Nexus 5 has already proven that support for many different regional frequency bands can be included in a single device.
There's no reason for it whatsoever except to inflict artificial restrictions on where customers can buy, and where they can use a phone. If I buy a phone outright I expect to be able to use it anywhere. If I travel, why should my original carrier dictate who I can get coverage from?
amrando said:
hello all-
has XDA (or any other site) released a hardware list for the regional S5 models with the differences in hardware and especially LTE band support?
It's pretty frustrating in 2014 that Samsung *still* appears to be forcing regional divisions on its customers; especially when the Nexus 5 has already proven that support for many different regional frequency bands can be included in a single device.
There's no reason for it whatsoever except to inflict artificial restrictions on where customers can buy, and where they can use a phone. If I buy a phone outright I expect to be able to use it anywhere. If I travel, why should my original carrier dictate who I can get coverage from?
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Try to get the S5 Google Play edition. Google Play edition smartphones and tablets are carrier unlocked and unbranded. Instead of having a massive Verizon 4G LTE logo, or a phone that only works on AT&T bands, buying from the Play Store you’ll receive a completely untethered smartphone. The Galaxy S4 Google edition works on AT&T, T-Mobile, and around the world. There’s no contract required, and you can use it on a variety of carriers in the US, and abroad. So, I think, the S5 will work the same or better.
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Try to get the S5 Google Play edition. Google Play edition smartphones and tablets are carrier unlocked and unbranded. Instead of having a massive Verizon 4G LTE logo, or a phone that only works on AT&T bands, buying from the Play Store you’ll receive a completely untethered smartphone. The Galaxy S4 Google edition works on AT&T, T-Mobile, and around the world. There’s no contract required, and you can use it on a variety of carriers in the US, and abroad. So, I think, the S5 will work the same or better.
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That sounds reasonable and logical, but is that really the case? What were the hardware specs of the S4 GP edition? Wasn't it just an unbranded SGH-1337- which then has no LTE support on T-Mobile or anywhere outside North America?
What I'm looking for is a device that is universal around the world, or around the country (US/Canada/Europe/Asia). I want a phone that (like the the N5) for example won't be kneecapped to HSPA or vanilla GSM when I travel to Europe, Japan, China or Hong Kong; or if I switch carriers within Canada. The N5 claims to support over half a dozen LTE bands, ensuring it can find one supported in essentially every region. Samsung still appears to be trying to artificially partition markets by radio and other features, much like many electronics manufacturers do with artificial trade barriers like region-encoding on DVDs, Blu-Rays or video games.
hemander said:
Try to get the S5 Google Play edition. Google Play edition smartphones and tablets are carrier unlocked and unbranded. Instead of having a massive Verizon 4G LTE logo, or a phone that only works on AT&T bands, buying from the Play Store you’ll receive a completely untethered smartphone. The Galaxy S4 Google edition works on AT&T, T-Mobile, and around the world. There’s no contract required, and you can use it on a variety of carriers in the US, and abroad. So, I think, the S5 will work the same or better.
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You should really read the specs of the phone before posting wrong information.
S4 GE won't support LTE abroad. LTE will only work on AT&T and T-mobile.
S5 GE is not yet even announced.
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amrando said:
That sounds reasonable and logical, but is that really the case? What were the hardware specs of the S4 GP edition? Wasn't it just an unbranded SGH-1337- which then has no LTE support on T-Mobile or anywhere outside North America?
What I'm looking for is a device that is universal around the world, or around the country (US/Canada/Europe/Asia). I want a phone that (like the the N5) for example won't be kneecapped to HSPA or vanilla GSM when I travel to Europe, Japan, China or Hong Kong; or if I switch carriers within Canada. The N5 claims to support over half a dozen LTE bands, ensuring it can find one supported in essentially every region. Samsung still appears to be trying to artificially partition markets by radio and other features, much like many electronics manufacturers do with artificial trade barriers like region-encoding on DVDs, Blu-Rays or video games.
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There is no such phone.
N5 of North American edition doesn't work on LTE in Europe. Neither N5 of European edition works on LTE in the US.
NA and EU LTE bands are different.
Ugh
I'm not going to get any carrier renewal benefit, so I'm just going to have to pay full freight for this phone. So since I'm paying full price, I might as well get the best phone. I want a 32GB version (have the 32gb s4), that does LTE in NA. I'd rather not get an AT&T phone (locked bootloader crap that has forced me to get repairs on my own dime on my phone so I don't get a locked version from the mothership).
Sounds like the GP version is best, then I can slap it on At&T network, any other ideas? The Rogers S4s seems to have so many issues with ROM upgrades and such... So painful!
Samsung SM-G900F for Europe
Samsung SM-G900I for Asia
Samsung SM-G900K/G900L/G900S for Korea
Samsung SM-G900M for Vodafone
Samsung SM-G900A for AT&T
Samsung SM-G900T for T-Mobile
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900F
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900M
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T
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NK-SOFT said:
Samsung SM-G900F for Europe
Samsung SM-G900I for Asia
Samsung SM-G900K/G900L/G900S for Korea
Samsung SM-G900M for Vodafone
Samsung SM-G900A for AT&T
Samsung SM-G900T for T-Mobile
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900F
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900M
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T
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No frequencies specifications for SM-G900K/G900L/G900S ?
arronov said:
No frequencies specifications for SM-G900K/G900L/G900S ?
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I think it very similer to sm-g900f
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sorry to revive this, but i want to clarify.
if i buy the 900f, european version, will i get LTE data in canada on the Rogers network? i believe rogers uses the same bands as At&T...
i been seeing different things posted on the internet which has me very confused....
it seems like the supported LTE bands are similar between the european version and the at&t version..with the exception of two bands...
any expert can chime in on this please? thanks..
kl25 said:
sorry to revive this, but i want to clarify.
if i buy the 900f, european version, will i get LTE data in canada on the Rogers network?
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It would have been better if you started a new thread.
To answer your question, the 900F shares most of the LTE bands that Rogers uses. So assuming that your 900F is provisioned for Rogers LTE.. yes you will get Rogers LTE data. The 900F does not support Rogers LTE bands B4/17 (or 3G B4), but they are not much used yet, so you shouldn't incur any gaps in coverage.
In the future you may miss B17 more as it is new and uncongested spectrum that just rolled out in Vancouver, Calgary and Toronto. And being a low frequency is particularly good at penetrating into buildings. But for the moment, you'll be good.
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What about Samsung GALAXY S5 4G mobile dual sim customized version G9008W, will it work with the European 3G networks?
My SM-G9008W works in th US on T-mobile 3G network perfectly. But no LTE.
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maoaichiyu said:
My SM-G9008W works in th US on T-mobile 3G network perfectly. But no LTE.
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My G9008W work perfectly in France with LTE with band 1800 and 2600
But it seem that it has no B20 (800Mhz), but i am not sure ...
It work also in 3G (900 and 2100) and 2G, of course
Just ont think: unlike the Galaxy S4 Duo, it is not dual active, only one sim in communication at a time ...
Samsung Galaxy SM-G900F
arronov said:
No frequencies specifications for SM-G900K/G900L/G900S ?
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I have Samsung S5 G900F and i am using it in pakistan with Warid LTE Sim but i did not seen auto connect menu for LTE where as i am able to use LTE perfectly with hidden Service Mode. any body can guide me how i can get aut connect Menu for LTE without Rooting my phone.
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I am about to purchase a Samsung Galaxy S5 GSM unlocked from HSN (the reason from hsn is because i can pay for the phone overtime instead of paying right up front). I am currently on Tmobile with my lg that uses hspa+ 42 and i wanted to know if i would get tmobile "4g" 42 megabit speeds on the S5 considering the fact its international with an octa-core processor?? Or would I be stuck with edge/2g??
Bands:
T-Mobile version: HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
G900H HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
The only difference is the 1700 band that is missing from the H variant.
This thread might help, I think that by having the 1900 band you'll be OK for HDSPA if you are in an area that has refarmed towers, but better read it all the way through (I didn't)
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/39007
You won't have LTE of course.