Kies - Do I need it? - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

While installing Kies on my PC I noticed that "Kies automatically checks the firmware of the connected device, and keeps it up to date"
Will it turn my rooted S4 into a brick if I connected to my USB and launch Kies? Do I need it for anything? So far I only used Odin via USB cable to root my phone and Micro SD card to flash ROMS.
Thanks guys!

Painkiller7 said:
While installing Kies on my PC I noticed that "Kies automatically checks the firmware of the connected device, and keeps it up to date"
Will it turn my rooted S4 into a brick if I connected to my USB and launch Kies? Do I need it for anything? So far I only used Odin via USB cable to root my phone and Micro SD card to flash ROMS.
Thanks guys!
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I've never used the kies app yet.
You can most definitely get by with out it.
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Kies is worthless to me, always had problems, I just manually get what update/rom that you need, and use ODIN, to flash them.
Ax says, my opinion only!
Many others use kies with no problems.

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Kies problem

I've installed Kies but it won't run on my xp pro 64 bit. It did work before I updated to Gingerbread but since then ,nothing. Kies won't run,either with the phone connected or not. Think it's more a problem of the pc but can't find a solution online. I have tried uninstalling,rebooting and re installing both Kies and the USB drivers to no avail. Attached file of error when trying to run Kies. Kies did connect ok when I could get it running but now I can't even get it to run.
have you tried running as administrator ?? also what about running in compatibility mode ?
I have the same problem after rooting with the Fug-Mod method. Maybe it is the same reason for your problem.
Custom-ROMs are not supported by Kies.
Try to run Kies in compability mode. Then reinstall the drivers. After that it work without issues. Or just reinstall Kies.
Just tryed to start it via XP SP3 mode and, like every time i execute Kies, it works.
Device: Galaxy S @ Simply Honey 2.3.3 (JVB)
PC OS: Win7 x64 SP1
stepping said:
I have the same problem after rooting with the Fug-Mod method. Maybe it is the same reason for your problem.
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Other people had this problem too. Reflash with stock firmware and use cf-root instead. Worked for me, even after flashing supercurio's kernel afterwards.
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Kies does not like Win 7 x64 .
Latest version Kies only one i ever got to work .
jje
Liam Good said:
I've installed Kies but it won't run on my xp pro 64 bit. It did work before I updated to Gingerbread but since then ,nothing. Kies won't run,either with the phone connected or not. Think it's more a problem of the pc but can't find a solution online. I have tried uninstalling,rebooting and re installing both Kies and the USB drivers to no avail. Attached file of error when trying to run Kies. Kies did connect ok when I could get it running but now I can't even get it to run.
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Thanks to Jjegan your solution is here> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13166133#post13166133
Update
I uninstalled all usb drivers,uninstalled Kies. Then I reinstalled Kies without connecting any cable or phone but I am still getting the exact same error message. Kies can't know I have my phone rooted or even which Rom I am using as I have not connected the phone but it still won't run. Any other suggestions welcome.

Kies Software not recognizing rooted S II

Hello all
Wondering if anyone can help me with this. I have rooted my S ii and now when I connect it to the KIES software and try to check for updates, it says device not recognized. I can still use other functions of the software but I cannot try to check for updates. Does this mean when Samsung releases an update or pushes out a new version of Android, I will not be able to update my phone? If so, is there any way to change that?
Thanks for your answers.
search the forums, answers already out there...
in short, when you know that there is some latest firmware available in KIES...flash with the previous KIES update (not the latest) thru odin (the stock firmwares are available in dev section) and you must be knowing all this when you rooted your phone...
thereafter you are all ready for KIES updates...KIES will recognize your phone
SndChsr said:
Hello all
Wondering if anyone can help me with this. I have rooted my S ii and now when I connect it to the KIES software and try to check for updates, it says device not recognized. I can still use other functions of the software but I cannot try to check for updates. Does this mean when Samsung releases an update or pushes out a new version of Android, I will not be able to update my phone? If so, is there any way to change that?
Thanks for your answers.
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If you are running windows 7 make sure you run kies as an administrator if you don't then it will always say device not recognised.
Root has nothing to do with Kies, as long as you stay on Stock ROM Kies will show update.
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Turn off USB debugging.
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Thanks all for the help. Greatly appreciated. I will run it as administrator and see if that does the trick.
SndChsr said:
Thanks all for the help. Greatly appreciated. I will run it as administrator and see if that does the trick.
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do what chrisjcks told you instead.
Windows wont recognize the phone nor would kies as long as the usb debugging mode is active on your phone. In my case it shows to virtual drives flash drives, i cant access when usb debug is active on my phone on windows 7.
When USB debugging is not active, windows 7 shows me a phone icon with I9100 below it, that is fully accessible, at that point even kies recognizes it instantly.
OK, so now the phone is being recognized in Win7 but this is the message I see in Kies:
"This version of the device cannot be updated.
Current Firmware Version: PDA:KG2/PHONE:KG2/CSC:KG2 (VMC)"
Any thoughts why? I know that I rooted my phone in order to unlock it, but I'm not sure if rooting also altered the ROM. Sorry guys, I'm a total noob to Android. I rooted with the method posted here on the forums.
I should mention that I rooted using SuperOneClick and Odin method.
SndChsr said:
OK, so now the phone is being recognized in Win7 but this is the message I see in Kies:
"This version of the device cannot be updated.
Current Firmware Version: PDA:KG2/PHONE:KG2/CSC:KG2 (VMC)"
Any thoughts why? I know that I rooted my phone in order to unlock it, but I'm not sure if rooting also altered the ROM. Sorry guys, I'm a total noob to Android. I rooted with the method posted here on the forums.
I should mention that I rooted using SuperOneClick and Odin method.
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Just means that there is no update for your phone at the moment. It will say that it either cannot be updated or you have the latest firmware. Same thing.
If you use a mixture of a CSC, modem, and rom/kernel from different stock firmwares KIES wont detect it.
So you need to flash to the same kernel, modem and CSC as your stock firmware, if you used superoneclick you must have flashed a insecure kernel, did you flash your stock one back?
veyka said:
If you use a mixture of a CSC, modem, and rom/kernel from different stock firmwares KIES wont detect it.
So you need to flash to the same kernel, modem and CSC as your stock firmware, if you used superoneclick you must have flashed a insecure kernel, did you flash your stock one back?
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No, I did not flash it back. I flashed with superoneclick, unlocked the phone and left it as it is. However, I would like to flash it back. Is the stock ROM available somewhere? And if so, instructions on flashing it back to stock ROM would be beyond words of appreciation.
Do you need to change anything in kies registry.
Coming from sgs1, I remember you need to change HID value or something in kies registry.
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Do you need to change anything in kies registry.
Coming from sgs1, I remember you need to change HID value or something in kies registry.
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I'm not sure. You mean if the phone is rooted?
Well..I've connected my phone again and suddenly everything works as expected. Kies says everything is up to date. Thanks for the help chumps Greatly appreciated!
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Aftermath Of Flashing German ROM XLPY

When the official German ICS ROM LPY was released I decided to flash it using Odin rather than wait for the official UK ROM for my UK Note. I thought because it was an official ROM there would be little risk and I would be able to replace it with the UK ROM when that was released.
However, now that the official UK ROM is available I find that I cannot flash it with Odin because Odin no longer detects the Note in download mode. I also found that I could not use Kies because although it could detect the Note, it did not recognise it for updates.
I have never rooted my Note or flashed anything other than the official ICS ROM LPY using Odin.
So I had a working Note but no way of returning to a UK ROM or updating the installed German ROM. So I decided to change the CRC code to the German one ODT to match the German ROM and that seems to have fixed the Kies problem. Changing the CRC code does a factory reset but at least I now might be able to use Kies or OTA for future German ICS updates.
If you search using Google you will find loads of people who can no longer use Odin because it no longer detects their phone. Many reasons have been suggested such as bad USB cable, wrong or corrupt drivers, interference from Kies running in the background etc and I have tried those solutions without success. But I believe that in some cases it is the result of flashing the wrong firmware as I did
Some people have then tried to use recovery mode to solve the problem and ended up not being able to use their phone at all. There are others who are stuck on a buggy custom ROM and cannot use Odin to escape.
I am hoping that there will eventually be an official German ICS update that I can flash using Kies or OTA that will replace my current German ROM and allow me to use Odin again to flash the correct UK ROM.
I'm lucky that at least I can still use my Note normally even though it has German firmware. But if I eventually manage to get the UK firmware installed and running again then I will wait for the correct official updates for my Note in future.
You sure have a weird problem. Did you try on a different computer?
Maybe mobile odin could be helping you out, it's in play store.
i know that you really need the correct drivers to let Odin detect your device, installing kies takes care of that, but i know there are separate drivers around here somewhere to so you won't need kies on your PC (it highly interferes with Odin).
I would give you the link but am on my Note now.
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Hi, uninstall Kies and reboot your PC. Then download the latest version of kies and install it again. Connect your Note via USB cable and wait for the drivers to get installed. Then put your phone in download mode, close kies and connect the Note to the PC. Wait for Windows to automatically download and install the drivers. Once the drivers are installed, open ODIN. It should detect your phone in Download Mode.
Nirak said:
You sure have a weird problem. Did you try on a different computer?
Maybe mobile odin could be helping you out, it's in play store.
i know that you really need the correct drivers to let Odin detect your device, installing kies takes care of that, but i know there are separate drivers around here somewhere to so you won't need kies on your PC (it highly interferes with Odin).
I would give you the link but am on my Note now.
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If you read some of the many posts by people who cannot use Odin to flash any more then you will see people have tried different computers, separate drivers, Kies drivers, starting Odin in administrator mode, several cables including official Samsung USB cable, trying Kies Mini, using Task Manager to stop any Kies software running whilst using Odin etc. but to no avail. Which is why I believe the problem for some people is within the Note and not the PC.
Unfortunately, in order to use Mobile Odin you need to be rooted and you need to use Odin get root. Although I read a post here recently where someone had developed a way to root without using Odin. It would be interesting to hear from anyone who has used that non-Odin root method to use Odin Mobile to flash a new ROM.
lifehijack said:
Hi, uninstall Kies and reboot your PC. Then download the latest version of kies and install it again. Connect your Note via USB cable and wait for the drivers to get installed. Then put your phone in download mode, close kies and connect the Note to the PC. Wait for Windows to automatically download and install the drivers. Once the drivers are installed, open ODIN. It should detect your phone in Download Mode.
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I tried your method but to no avail because I think my problem and many others is within the phone rather than the PC.
Gaugerer said:
If you read some of the many posts by people who cannot use Odin to flash any more then you will see people have tried different computers, separate drivers, Kies drivers, starting Odin in administrator mode, several cables including official Samsung USB cable, trying Kies Mini, using Task Manager to stop any Kies software running whilst using Odin etc. but to no avail. Which is why I believe the problem for some people is within the Note and not the PC.
Unfortunately, in order to use Mobile Odin you need to be rooted and you need to use Odin get root. Although I read a post here recently where someone had developed a way to root without using Odin. It would be interesting to hear from anyone who has used that non-Odin root method to use Odin Mobile to flash a new ROM.
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I've rooted my stock ICS following this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647148
no odin involved.
But i never used MobileOdin.
Nirak said:
I've rooted my stock ICS following this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647148
no odin involved.
But i never used MobileOdin.
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Yes, that is the method I was talking about. You could try MobileOdin available in Google Play to see if you can run it and perhaps flash a rom. That would be interesting for it would eliminate all the PC problems.
Gaugerer said:
Yes, that is the method I was talking about. You could try MobileOdin available in Google Play to see if you can run it and perhaps flash a rom. That would be interesting for it would eliminate all the PC problems.
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Why don't you give it a go yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
I've just set up my device as i wish and have no intention of flashing it again..sorry
I am on LPY and was able to flash SpeedMod via PC Odin with no problems.
Try different USB port and use the original Samsung USB cable. I never used Kies before, so I am not sure about this part. I used to setup the driver installer only.
Hope it helps..

Help Lost USB and Root

]My wife's s4 stopped charging in the wall and would only charge on the PC. I figured out it has a bad USB port. Tried cables chargers etc... I went to unroot her phone and realized that when connected to the PC it only has charging capabilities. I can't connect to it via Odin, Kies or even see the sdcard. So I thought maybe I can do it with mobile Odin or Supersu. This is when I realized her root is not working. Not sure how long this has been because I only rooted it so I could hack her candy crush game. Lol. Now I have a phone that shows up custom when turned on so I can't take it to AT&T and no cable connection to get rid of the root. Any suggestions? I also tried downloading Supersu instead of Super User and it wanted to update the binary but failed. I never flashed a Rom on it, just rooted.
No USB
Broken Root
Can't get replaced due to phone showing custom on boot
Robsinfl
Forgot to mention I can access the sdcard from PC wireless through WIFI File Transfer app.
Robsinfl
robsinfl said:
Forgot to mention I can access the sdcard from PC wireless through WIFI File Transfer app.
Robsinfl
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You need mention the most important info, what firmware ate you on?
jd1639 said:
You need mention the most important info, what firmware ate you on?
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Sorry stock UCUAMF3
Robsinfl
No suggestions?
robsinfl said:
sorry stock ucuamf3
robsinfl
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Well you can't use odin. You can try to unroot thru super su. There is an un- root option there.

Unable to connect via USB to computer?

Okay, so I'm trying to plug my Verizon Note 3 into my laptop in order to transfer some photos and videos. However, there's no "USB Connected" notification that shows up on the phone, and the computer only recognizes "Samsung Android," and the drivers for it fail to install. The phone DOES charge, though.
My phone is rooted, so I unrooted by reinstalling the NC4 kitkat build via Odin. This didn't change anything. I've looked everywhere, and people keep saying "Go to storage settings and set to MTP only," but I don't see that setting...anywhere.
Since I rooted my phone, I have all the Samsung USB drivers, and I even have Kies installed. Turning off USB Debugging does nothing.
Is there any way to fix this?
I need to use a standard usb cable rather than the note 3 cable for mine to work.
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I had the same problem with no solution, i ended up uninstalling Towel Root and then doing a factory restore to get back the USB connection capability on my phone.
darkcompgeek said:
Okay, so I'm trying to plug my Verizon Note 3 into my laptop in order to transfer some photos and videos. However, there's no "USB Connected" notification that shows up on the phone, and the computer only recognizes "Samsung Android," and the drivers for it fail to install. The phone DOES charge, though.
My phone is rooted, so I unrooted by reinstalling the NC4 kitkat build via Odin. This didn't change anything. I've looked everywhere, and people keep saying "Go to storage settings and set to MTP only," but I don't see that setting...anywhere.
Since I rooted my phone, I have all the Samsung USB drivers, and I even have Kies installed. Turning off USB Debugging does nothing.
Is there any way to fix this?
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Did you get the latest drivers from the Samsung website? I only ask because when I went to install a rom for the first time Odin wouldn't recognize my phone in download mode but did while I was booted up normally. Come to find out the drivers I was using that was linked on the page where I got instructions how to root and rom were old. I went onto the Samsung website and downloaded the latest drivers and all was well. Give it a shot.
rebdogg said:
Did you get the latest drivers from the Samsung website? I only ask because when I went to install a rom for the first time Odin wouldn't recognize my phone in download mode but did while I was booted up normally. Come to find out the drivers I was using that was linked on the page where I got instructions how to root and rom were old. I went onto the Samsung website and downloaded the latest drivers and all was well. Give it a shot.
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Yeah, I've tried the USB drivers from Samsung's website. I also tried installing Kies. AFAIK, Kies automatically installs the latest drivers for Samsung devices, but when I plugged my phone into my computer, Kies wouldn't even recognize it. The new 4.4.4 update didn't fix the problem. Thanks for the suggestion though.
same prob here, also my camera is not working did u fix the problem? i test 3 different usb cables whit no luck! heeeelp please!
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laserbiz said:
I had the same problem with no solution, i ended up uninstalling Towel Root and then doing a factory restore to get back the USB connection capability on my phone.
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hello, did this work for you? also is your camera working? thanks! how did you unroot? my phone isnt working in download mode either no recognizing
azteka88 said:
same prob here, also my camera is not working did u fix the problem? i test 3 different usb cables whit no luck! heeeelp please!
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hello, did this work for you? also is your camera working? thanks! how did you unroot? my phone isnt working in download mode either no recognizing
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yes this worked for me... no problems with my camera... works fine, even got updated to 4.4.4 by verizon
laserbiz said:
yes this worked for me... no problems with my camera... works fine, even got updated to 4.4.4 by verizon
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My problem is that i cant use usb to update and im not in the us to OTA update from verizon any other solution?

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