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Is there any word on whether or not the bootloader is encrypted? If so does anyone have any idea on what the chances of it being unlocked is, as this is the only thing stopping me from buying this phone.
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I suspect we will end up with loki. At least i hope so.
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I'm ready for the complete package so I can start flashing
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bri315317 said:
I suspect we will end up with loki. At least i hope so.
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I'm unfamiliar with loki, what is that?
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soapinmouth said:
I'm unfamiliar with loki, what is that?
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Basically it is an exploit to bypass the bootloader to flash roms and kernels. DJRBLISS found it for the S4 and it is working with the G pro. Read more about it here
Other options would be Hash's safety strap or if they can figure out flash gordon for roms. But I still hope for a full unlock sometime...
Is there a way to check if the bootloader is locked? I'm getting a T-mobile version and am curious if they have it locked as well.
bri315317 said:
I suspect we will end up with loki. At least i hope so.
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Loki is old. Most manufactures stopped using as soon as Dan Bliss posted how he exploited it.
I am fairly confident this is not going to be Loki. I hope I am wrong but...
Its easy to test if you are rooted.
Pull a system dump, mod the boot.img (Decompile it, maybe just put a simple line in the default.prop then recompile), then run it through loki. After loki just DD it back in place.
If you phone boots then its loki! And I run to AT&T to buy one no questions asked...
If your phone doesnt boot... you bricked it but did so for a noble cause! And for that I would salute you!
All of the above is true and accurate... But with a grain of angry sarcasm... Im pretty sure this is not going to be Loki. If so it would have recovery and ROMS by now.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
Basically it is an exploit to bypass the bootloader to flash roms and kernels. DJRBLISS found it for the S4 and it is working with the G pro. Read more about it here
Other options would be Hash's safety strap or if they can figure out flash gordon for roms. But I still hope for a full unlock sometime...
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You mean WAS working with the S4...
Samsung changed the method 100% and no longer works with ANY Samsung device that is up to date.
Sorry guys, not trying to be a downer... I really want this phone... Very angry with the games carriers play.
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Loki is old. Most manufactures stopped using as soon as Dan Bliss posted how he exploited it.
I am fairly confident this is not going to be Loki. I hope I am wrong but...
Its easy to test if you are rooted.
Pull a system dump, mod the boot.img (Decompile it, maybe just put a simple line in the default.prop then recompile), then run it through loki. After loki just DD it back in place.
If you phone boots then its loki! And I run to AT&T to buy one no questions asked...
If your phone doesnt boot... you bricked it but did so for a noble cause! And for that I would salute you!
All of the above is true and accurate... But with a grain of angry sarcasm... Im pretty sure this is not going to be Loki. If so it would have recovery and ROMS by now.
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I think it's aboot.img that gets modded for Loki on this phone.
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djkinetic said:
I think it's aboot.img that gets modded for Loki on this phone.
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No, thats not correct.
When the system boots, it looks at aboot and verifies its signed. Then from there, it verifies that boot.img is signed, then on...
aboot is just first in the chain, and if hacked appropriately, would eliminate the need for any and all loki methods...
However, hacking the aboot is not something I recommend anyone trying to do... Unless of course they have done it before...
Didint you just brick your phone because of a hack attempt at aboot?
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No, thats not correct.
When the system boots, it looks at aboot and verifies its signed. Then from there, it verifies that boot.img is signed, then on...
aboot is just first in the chain, and if hacked appropriately, would eliminate the need for any and all loki methods...
However, hacking the aboot is not something I recomend anyone trying to do...
Didint you just brick your phone because of a hack attempt at aboot?
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Ah ic
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No, thats not correct.
When the system boots, it looks at aboot and verifies its signed. Then from there, it verifies that boot.img is signed, then on...
aboot is just first in the chain, and if hacked appropriately, would eliminate the need for any and all loki methods...
However, hacking the aboot is not something I recommend anyone trying to do... Unless of course they have done it before...
Didint you just brick your phone because of a hack attempt at aboot?
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Yup the devs on irc have me testing various aboots
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Ah ic
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Trust me man, I played this game on Samsung... Then quit it and went back to HTC.
With Samsung they dropped the loki method of kernels. So now, they have yet to have an unlocked bootloader...
I can only SUSPECT this phone is using the same method the Samsungs are now using...
Otherwise we would have lokied the ***** and we would all be crack flashing :highfive: :angel:
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Yup the devs on irc have me testing various aboots
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Yeah, they are going one route to unlock... Which would be the most optimal, yet most risky...
Although on other Samsung devices they closed this loop hold...
Unless someone has an aboot that has been leaked by LG for the device that does not have the checks involved this may prove as impossible as it does for the Samsung devices..
I hope I am wrong...
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Yeah, they are going one route to unlock... Which would be the most optimal, yet most risky...
Although on other Samsung devices they closed this loop hold...
Unless someone has an aboot that has been leaked by LG for the device that does not have the checks involved this may prove as impossible as it does for the Samsung devices..
I hope I am wrong...
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Yeah... swapping for an HTC One is looking better and better as time goes on. I know it's only been a few days since launch, FYI.
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Yeah... swapping for an HTC One is looking better and better as time goes on. I know it's only been a few days since launch, FYI.
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Sad isnt it?
I will only be buying international phones going forward.
No more carrier subsidies for me :good:
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Sad isnt it?
I will only be buying international phones going forward.
No more carrier subsidies for me :good:
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My problem is that VZW is the only LTE carrier in my area that doesn't completely suck. Their coverage is just too good...
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My problem is that VZW is the only LTE carrier in my area that doesn't completely suck. Their coverage is just too good...
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Yeah, AT&T Finally got LTE turned on a couple weeks ago.
I said, If I have to I will go back to Sprint 2G to have an unlocked phone.
And if you buy Int phones you cant run them on Verizon.
THEY rule they air
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Yeah, they are going one route to unlock... Which would be the most optimal, yet most risky...
Although on other Samsung devices they closed this loop hold...
Unless someone has an aboot that has been leaked by LG for the device that does not have the checks involved this may prove as impossible as it does for the Samsung devices..
I hope I am wrong...
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Yea hope so too, but its a shame that its locked down, the device itself is awesome, Sadly ill prolly get a nexus 5 for my crack flash addiction lol
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Yeah, AT&T Finally got LTE turned on a couple weeks ago.
I said, If I have to I will go back to Sprint 2G to have an unlocked phone.
And if you buy Int phones you cant run them on Verizon.
THEY rule they air
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Think we'll have a definitive answer in a week as to the prospects of unlocking?
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Think we'll have a definitive answer in a week as to the prospects of unlocking?
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Once again... On pure speculation...
Impossible to know!
I just know the S4 has been re-locked for a couple months and no one has made any posted progress. I am "assuming" this phone uses the same method as Samsung. LG has always tended to play "follow Samsung."
So with that said... I would be watching the S4 forums for an answer...
What would happen if I allowed the at&t update to happen? I am rooted with towel root and added titanium and safestrap. that's it. Can I restore to the original AT&T rom? I am obviously on AT&T and rolling with the s5 Active.
not really impressed with the root on this particular device...Samsung will allow a ton of custom setups and I can deal with the bloatware compared to the instability of just being rooted...Ive had more call drops and stutters and blackscreens since rooting... no biggie
Just want to know if I can just apply the update or do I need to jump through hoops?
Please understand that I'm "slow" and rode the short bus to school...Please refrain from treating me that way. im not all there.. just help Thanks.
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What would happen if I allowed the at&t update to happen? I am rooted with towel root and added titanium and safestrap. that's it. Can I restore to the original AT&T rom? I am obviously on AT&T and rolling with the s5 Active.
not really impressed with the root on this particular device...Samsung will allow a ton of custom setups and I can deal with the bloatware compared to the instability of just being rooted...Ive had more call drops and stutters and blackscreens since rooting... no biggie
Just want to know if I can just apply the update or do I need to jump through hoops?
Please understand that I'm "slow" and rode the short bus to school...Please refrain from treating me that way. im not all there.. just help Thanks.
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you'll be unrooted if you update. thats it, back to full stock
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you'll be unrooted if you update. thats it, back to full stock
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Excellent answer. Thanks.
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Excellent answer. Thanks.
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I suggest you learn more about rooting. It's awesome once you know how and what you can benefit from it. Worth the Knox 0x1 at some point.
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OJsakila said:
What would happen if I allowed the at&t update to happen? I am rooted with towel root and added titanium and safestrap. that's it. Can I restore to the original AT&T rom? I am obviously on AT&T and rolling with the s5 Active.
not really impressed with the root on this particular device...Samsung will allow a ton of custom setups and I can deal with the bloatware compared to the instability of just being rooted...Ive had more call drops and stutters and blackscreens since rooting... no biggie
Just want to know if I can just apply the update or do I need to jump through hoops?
Please understand that I'm "slow" and rode the short bus to school...Please refrain from treating me that way. im not all there.. just help Thanks.
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The update may comtain a patch for Towelroot so you might not be able to root after that, CF Auto Root will work but it will trip KNOX.
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gee2012 said:
The update may comtain a patch for Towelroot so you might not be able to root after that, CF Auto Root will work but it will trip KNOX.
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If You want To return To stock unroot i think You Can simply reinstall stock rom with Odin
Simone said:
I suggest you learn more about rooting. It's awesome once you know how and what you can benefit from it. Worth the Knox 0x1 at some point.
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If you notice... Ive been a member of this forum for 5+ years... Post count means nothing...while others are posting, I'm "learning more about rooting." Plus, I'm highly gun shy about posting idiotic and useless comments around here. There is no tolerance for such sensationalism..
So, thanks for the suggestion but I'm as well read about rooting as you are. Yes, its awesome...I know. Thanks, though... but The Problem seems to be that (with AT&T) stability is compromised. Worth the ability for me to lose bloatware? ...especially with a highly customizable Samsung?? Questionable right now...
Still "learning."
Just wonderin' about restoring...
Aiden_7 said:
If You want To return To stock unroot i think You Can simply reinstall stock rom with Odin
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Thanks.
OJsakila said:
If you notice... Ive been a member of this forum for 5+ years... Post count means nothing...while others are posting, I'm "learning more about rooting." Plus, I'm highly gun shy about posting idiotic and useless comments around here. There is no tolerance for such sensationalism..
So, thanks for the suggestion but I'm as well read about rooting as you are. Yes, its awesome...I know. Thanks, though... but The Problem seems to be that (with AT&T) stability is compromised. Worth the ability for me to lose bloatware? ...especially with a highly customizable Samsung?? Questionable right now...
Still "learning."
Just wonderin' about restoring...
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Oh, sorry. LOL! I was using Tapatalk so I did not see all your details :laugh:
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Oh, sorry. LOL! I was using Tapatalk so I did not see all your details :laugh:
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Its ok...In retrospect, I appeared annoyed at your comment..lol.. Im not. Sorry
Hi all-just got a nice,brand new S5 delivered to me from the HR girl who then proceeded to accept the update in front of my horrified eyes.
I am assuming that I now have no access to root,safestrap or any other custom recoveries/roms,correct?
chiadrum said:
Hi all-just got a nice,brand new S5 delivered to me from the HR girl who then proceeded to accept the update in front of my horrified eyes.
I am assuming that I now have no access to root,safestrap or any other custom recoveries/roms,correct?
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Correct. Welcome aboard the Titanic, m8.
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Should've slapped the phone out of her hands and pulled the battery while yelling "WHY?!?"
lol... You're definitely screwed...
Sean89us said:
Should've slapped the phone out of her hands and pulled the battery while yelling "WHY?!?"
lol... You're definitely screwed...
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I damn near did! Better to keep my job though. I at least wanted to root and kill the bloatware.oh well,still a nice step up from my old S3.
I believe I attempted to root over a BOG4 update and am currently stuck in a boot loop, is there anywhere I can get the SM-900V BOG4 .tar or is there another way to resolve my issue. I have tried flashing every firmware I can find! PLEASE HELP!
I also soft bricked mine but found a tar file that I previously downloaded and Odin flashed it. Now back to normal with the BOG4. ..... No root. Oh well. ..lol
Has anybody tried the latest kingroot?
http://androidxda.com/download-kingroot-application
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Has anybody tried the latest kingroot?
http://androidxda.com/download-kingroot-application
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Did not work for me
pyrite123 said:
Correct. Welcome aboard the Titanic, m8.
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The great thing about corp phones is there is no end to that supply chain. Fry that turd and get another.
FOOMCL
Okay, i am making this thread so people can find the answer for their questions here, some of these are the questions i was wondering too, but mostly these questions are what i think most people are wondering. And as always i want the answer to be heard from many people, so i really can be sure and know all about it!
ROMS..............
So, anyone got any idea when custom roms like cyanogen get compatibility for xperia z5 premium? how long does it usually take? and how do i get my current stock rom on my pc so i can customise it myself, and not die in waiting for cyanogen ? When the first cyanogen comes, it will be laggy, as everyone knows... Is it worth flashing? Can flashing ROMs break my phone, even when done right? Are they too risky for my brand new flagship beast?
ROOT..............
When do EASY one click rooting apps like kingroot, kingoroot and iroot work with the z5 premium? Does the "dirty" unlocked bootloader root made by androplus for xperia z5p work for the latest software update? When will the legendary locked bootloader root come?
BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED......
Okay this is what i can answer on!
Will the camera quality go really bad?
NO, it won't. Only in low light it will be terrible, only in low light! It is EXACTLY (for me) the same as locked bootloader on normal lightning. YOU CAN BARELY SPOT THE DIFFERENCE!
is the boot loader worth unlocking??
This is a hard one. Its different for everybody, someone LIKE ME thinks its worth it, some others think its not. (tell your opinions pls)
FOR ME IT IS. As with unlocked bootloader you will be getting root before the locked boys.
What does change?
For me, nothing really. No experience has changed for me, but everyone uses it differently!
Okey so thats it for now its sunday night soon, post your questions down below, ill answer IF I CAN xd. if i don't know the answer, other people will answer it (HOPEFULLY) please ask and comment below! Thank you guys!
And by the way, will there EVER be a android 4.x rom that works on z5p?
Android 4.x ? Are you kidding me? Nooooo of course there wont be...
Unlocked bootloader exists and so does root. We dont have locked Bootloader root yet.
Cyangenmod? Wont be for while I think.
Id just be happy you have a good device, unlock the bootloader and root.
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Android 4.x ? Are you kidding me? Nooooo of course there wont be...
Unlocked bootloader exists and so does root. We dont have locked Bootloader root yet.
Cyangenmod? Wont be for while I think.
Id just be happy you have a good device, unlock the bootloader and root.
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Im not kidding i would really want android 4.x on this xddd
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Android 4.x ? Are you kidding me? Nooooo of course there wont be...
Unlocked bootloader exists and so does root. We dont have locked Bootloader root yet.
Cyangenmod? Wont be for while I think.
Id just be happy you have a good device, unlock the bootloader and root.
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I just asked that is it anyway possible..
fkofilee said:
Android 4.x ? Are you kidding me? Nooooo of course there wont be...
Unlocked bootloader exists and so does root. We dont have locked Bootloader root yet.
Cyangenmod? Wont be for while I think.
Id just be happy you have a good device, unlock the bootloader and root.
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I have it allready unlocked but i havent rooted because i dont know does the root work on the newest software update that i have
Of course it does, Install customer kernel and recovery and flash Super SU if required
However be aware of which model you have....
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Of course it does, Install customer kernel and recovery and flash Super SU if required
However be aware of which model you have....
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build number is 32.0.A.6.200 and its the no dual E6853 xdd ok ima try soon
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build number is 32.0.A.6.200 and its the no dual E6853 xdd ok ima try soon
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Has anyone tried new version of kingroot?I can't because I do not have the phone yet
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Has anyone tried new version of kingroot?I can't because I do not have the phone yet
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It does not work. Only root method is with unlocked bl, WICH DID NOT WORK FOR ME! I just installed a custom pre rooted rom, that worked. If u wanna do it the unlocked bl way, its pretty hard if u have only used kingroot for rooting.. And u can easily bootloop or brick ur phone. Thank me for helpful post if i helped pls xdd. I can ofc answer more questions if u need info.
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It does not work. Only root method is with unlocked bl, WICH DID NOT WORK FOR ME! I just installed a custom pre rooted rom, that worked. If u wanna do it the unlocked bl way, its pretty hard if u have only used kingroot for rooting.. And u can easily bootloop or brick ur phone. Thank me for helpful post if i helped pls xdd. I can ofc answer more questions if u need info.
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thanks a lot mate.Guess I'll have to wait a bit before getting the phone
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thanks a lot mate.Guess I'll have to wait a bit before getting the phone
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Yea, ALSO! If your getting it. The phone has one problem........ IT BENDS... I can confirm.. So i think its the best phone ever, but its batterylife is pretty poor and it bends.. So if u get it on really bendy places your eventually gonna end up with a samsung curve tv looking phone. Mine is not bent, well slightly, u can barely see it.
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Yea, ALSO! If your getting it. The phone has one problem........ IT BENDS... I can confirm.. So i think its the best phone ever, but its batterylife is pretty poor and it bends.. So if u get it on really bendy places your eventually gonna end up with a samsung curve tv looking phone. Mine is not bent, well slightly, u can barely see it.
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I just bought a note 4 I will wait for Z6.thanks a ton mate
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I just bought a note 4 I will wait for Z6.thanks a ton mate
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No problem have a good weekend.
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No problem have a good weekend.
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on the sidenote.I hate my new Note 4
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on the sidenote.I hate my new Note 4
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Lol.. Samsung sucks. Everything they make sucks.. I got a 4000€ tv wich sucks.. I got s5 wich is ok but against my z3 or z5p it sucks baaaad m8.. My dad also had samsung tvs on work and he threw them straight to trash ... Ill never buy any samsung.. Maybe i will sometime if a miracle happens lol. But i wont reccomend buying a samsung. I hate samsung, for a good reason
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Lol.. Samsung sucks. Everything they make sucks.. I got a 4000€ tv wich sucks.. I got s5 wich is ok but against my z3 or z5p it sucks baaaad m8.. My dad also had samsung tvs on work and he threw them straight to trash ... Ill never buy any samsung.. Maybe i will sometime if a miracle happens lol. But i wont reccomend buying a samsung. I hate samsung, for a good reason
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To be honest I blame myself,I fell for the hype some sites like gsmarena and phonearena created about that damn AMOLED and samsung cam quality.If I post a comparison with my old Z2 you,ll see how note gets destroyed.the only positive side is deep blacks
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To be honest I blame myself,I fell for the hype some sites like gsmarena and phonearena created about that damn AMOLED and samsung cam quality.If I post a comparison with my old Z2 you,ll see how note gets destroyed.the only positive side is deep blacks
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Yeaas
masaforce said:
It does not work. Only root method is with unlocked bl, WICH DID NOT WORK FOR ME! I just installed a custom pre rooted rom, that worked. If u wanna do it the unlocked bl way, its pretty hard if u have only used kingroot for rooting.. And u can easily bootloop or brick ur phone. Thank me for helpful post if i helped pls xdd. I can ofc answer more questions if u need info.
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Actually I'm expecting a Z6 with Snapdragon 820 in mid of 2016 already...
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Actually I'm expecting a Z6 with Snapdragon 820 in mid of 2016 already...
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Kk.. I usually buy a new phone or 2 in one year..
Hi all masters,
I need help here. I live in Malaysia, this was a present an under US Cellular carrier. So I wish to change the firmware to the SM-G935F one. Is it possible? The specs should be the same right?
No, you can't. You could brick your phone flashing it.
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If it has same CPU(In this case Exynos) then yes. But after googling it, it seems that the G935R4 has snapdragon. So do not flash anything. It shouldn't brick Your device as I've done a lot worse things lol. But nothing will work so don't do that.
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No, you can't. You could brick your phone flashing it.
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Thank you for the advice. I almost done it. Can't hold myself back from checking the Nougat! Luckily I havent done anything yet.
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If it has same CPU(In this case Exynos) then yes. But after googling it, it seems that the G935R4 has snapdragon. So do not flash anything. It shouldn't brick Your device as I've done a lot worse things lol. But nothing will work so don't do that.
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Thank you for the valuable input mate!
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Flash process won't even start in odin, will fail from the begining
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So basically I am being prevented to brick my device by Odin. Thumbs up to Odin :angel: