Hi there! I just bought a Cingular 8525 Unlocked phone and absolutely love it! After having it for two weeks, so far i have upgraded to the 2600mah extended battery and i am currently using PDACorner v20 rom (nonRBSN)
Now to my question, is it bad for the phone i keep plugging it in randomly throughout the day on the charger or USB? I upload files sometimes and i just leave the phone plugged in the computer or I would sometimes charge the phone when it hits 70% and unplug when done and would charge again before going to bed.
Also, is it ok if i leave the phone on the charger even if the light turns green? sometimes charging would be done around times when im knocked out....and usually dont unplug it until i have to leave.
Thanks for your help/replies.
h2opoloplyr_11 said:
Hi there! I just bought a Cingular 8525 Unlocked phone and absolutely love it! After having it for two weeks, so far i have upgraded to the 2600mah extended battery and i am currently using PDACorner v20 rom (nonRBSN)
Now to my question, is it bad for the phone i keep plugging it in randomly throughout the day on the charger or USB? I upload files sometimes and i just leave the phone plugged in the computer or I would sometimes charge the phone when it hits 70% and unplug when done and would charge again before going to bed.
Also, is it ok if i leave the phone on the charger even if the light turns green? sometimes charging would be done around times when im knocked out....and usually dont unplug it until i have to leave.
Thanks for your help/replies.
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Well, I don't think that's such an easy question to answer. There have been the following reports:
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Attempting to charge the battery with either PC USB or non approved charger (500mA) if the phone has less than 10% charge can lock up the charging circuit and result in a Red no charge LED showing.
2
Leaving the phone on charge overnight for example can result in the curious situation of having a flat battery and RED LED showing in the morning.
3
In general problems can result if 500mA 5v chargers are used instead of the 1000mA official charger - particularly if they are used when phone charge is low.
Now despite all the above, I regularly charge overnight without problems - and clearly that means the green LED is on for most of the night. I frequently top up the phone with the PC USB and do sometimes use a non standard charger. I have only ever had the RLOD red light of death once and was able to kick start it eventually.
I generally do not let the phone fall below 20% - but even when it does I have had no problems.
Mike
Thanks for the reply. I never let the phone fall below 40% so i should be ok on that. But when i bought the extended battery it came with a wall charger but its 500mA.....im guessing its ok for the battery since it was packaged with it.
But i might look into buying a charger from ATT. Leaving it charged till i wake up should be ok then....thanks!
Need some feedback, any one has had a bad battery yet? I had mine charging up to 85% yesterday and went back to bed thinking that today (sunday) morning will wake up and do some early stuff but I woke up late and had a dead Streak next to me. I left it charging overnight (I know it was only 15%) but you never know when you're going to need that extra juice. I tried turning it on, no luck, took the batt out tried turning on with only the mains plugged in, no go, I had blinking LEDS for a short moment then it turned off and that was it until I decided to jump start the phone (I don't recommend doing this to no one) with a BB Bold Battery (3.7V 1500mAh) all of a sudden I get the battery with exclamation mark, like I had a dead battery, I've only had the device for 2 weeks, also this is a Beta Unit I bought "AS-IS" but the problem was a simple restore and not the battery. now I manage to charge the battery in a raw way, just hot wired into a 4.2v DC. now the big question...
I'm at 40% battery it is draining very little, I would even say it is under normal operation, but i can't tell I don't have a SIM on it ATM. but I checked on "spare parts" to see status of the battery and it all seems ok but the bit that says BATTERY STATUS: discharging
No matter where I plugged the wire it is discharging, the phone is being detected on windows/mac any computer I plug, the phone does detect where the source is coming it says AC when I plug into the charger that came with, if I plug it into the USB of the computer it does says USB but it will never say charging, I even transfered files to the phone to test the wire, seems to me I have a crappy battery but just need more feedback, anyone has had this problem before? on any phone should I call Michael Dell and order another batt?
P.S. I have a BB Javelin had the same problem did jump started the battery and now the mobile is charging no probs and it DOES hold charge.
UPDATE: Ok guys any of you running 2.1 (8105) on your USA Beta (probably regular too) and have this issue about not charging, I went back to 1.6 (4399) issue is gone, I also had the crazy screen couldn't unlock/answer phone, will see if that is gone too, more than likely it is but I'm not 100% sure.
if it wont charge using usb or mains but only by jump starting it, then the streaks charging circuit is most probably f***ed.
Damn it..... i dont know what happened
it is still working perfectly yesterday
i did not drop the phone or battery, today the battery is still at 40% and as usual, before i went to sleep, i plug my phone on the USB Cable connected to my computer... but it is not charging.. and here i thought the error comes from my USB Cable , so i plug it into my wall charger ... but it is not charging at all!!!
and i thought, perhaps i have installed something , or some os faulty issue ... so i reset the phone via SETTINGS > About > Reset Phone
and after the reset.. it is still not charging...
argh what should i do... please help... anyone
i purchased this phone from singapore.. and i am indonesian.... the battery is currently at 30% , i am so afraid after it runs out of its juice, it will go away forever (because i cant charge it) T.T
what should i do....
(Is this battery and the one used on Galaxy S is the same? My sister has Galaxy S, should i try using her battery and try to charge it from my phone? .... ARGHHHH the omnia 7 is not even available yet in indonesia) T.T
Anyone help T.T
Get another charger it will charge get a new 1
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you sure it is the charger?
You are talking about the wallcharger right?
usually it already charging via USB Connected to a computer.. but this time... the computer does not even detect if anything is connected.... (nothing happened when i plug this phone to my pc, usually there is a notification sound playing and my zune will autorun)...
damn it ... why this happened.. yesterday it is just fine (
damn it .. i am sleepy already..
i will go and sleep for now.. and left my phone turned off and plugged in the WallCharger
and hopefuly.... sigh.. it is still charing although no indication whatsoever is showing that
MAN... should i just try bang the damn battery hard onto the table... perhaps some of the chip inside the battery is misplaced by whatever unknown forced?!
damn it.. i never dropped the phone.... ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
this is so frustrating
Relax
Relax man your charger is bad.
I have the same problem but my girlfriend have a Wave and start using his charger and everything works fine.
Buy a new charger
question
can i use any charger from any phone for this Omnia 7?
(the one that has USB Output of course, such as xperia1 charger)
if we can, then it is also not working.... and why suddenly it wont do anything when i plugged it in my Computer USB
the very same computer works perfectly yesterday, and suddenly it is not working..
I suspect either one of these is the problem :
1. the micro USB Connector in the Phone is broken somehow , hence the when we plugged it on, it does nothing
2. the Battery (which if i am not mistaken has a chip inside) is broken, hence explain why it is not charging at all (which a bit does not make any sense, if it is just not charging at least when i plug it on the computer, it should still detect this device...)
I am from indonesia, i can ask my friend who is returning from melbourne to purchase a new battery and new charger hopefuly
Okay to make things simpler.. i have a sister who own a Galaxy S
can i use the galaxy s wallcharger to charge my omnia 7? ah hell,i will try it anyway...
okay according to this
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I917ZKAATT
it goes great with galaxy s standard battery...
so i suspect, i can use my sister galaxy s standard battery and try to charge it using my cellphone
and i can also try to use my sister galaxy s wallcharger to charge my battery...
okay lets try ... hopefuly.... it is only the battery.. i can easily purchase a new battery... if it is the USB Connector on the phone... damn, how on this green earth can i charge my battery? OH we can use the kickstand battery charger?
hmm suddenly it is working now :O
thanks God... hopefuly it will never ever happened again T.T
Great it is working again
Any possibility that there is a way that the device forces a full recharge cycle to calibrate the battery?
Honestly i guess so.
I have the same problem...i can t charge my i8700 at all...what did you do to charge again???...i use a universal charger where i put my battery ...this happens for two weeks now..
cody28 said:
I have the same problem...i can t charge my i8700 at all...what did you do to charge again???...i use a universal charger where i put my battery ...this happens for two weeks now..
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Try allowing the phone to run out of battery and turns off, then plug it into the charger, i would love to know if this is a failure or be design behavior.
Put the battery in the phone,
Wait untill the phone goes completely off.
Plug the phone to the wall charger.
write back here
i tryed this but the same problem it turns on but only while the charger is pluged in when i pull it out the phone turns off...i try to hard reset nothing..there is no update to work with non retail devices...the phone is from three uk...i m from romania there is no way to return there to an service..(
Having the same problem. Been working flawlessly.Plugged it in a couple of hours ago,but it doesnt appear to be charging.
When I use the USB charger on the PC, it is recognised, and Zune opens up fine and Phone shows up.
Have tried two Mains chargers, the Omnia 7 one and the one that came with my Galaxy S, same problem.
EDIT:
Left it plugged in overnight and it charged fine.Used phone, going down to about half battery.Plugged it in and seems to be charging without a problem!
I've got the same problem as you guys for a couple of days now.
Thanks for your reactions i will try everyone of them untill my omnia 7 charges again
knetsooj said:
I've got the same problem as you guys for a couple of days now.
Thanks for your reactions i will try everyone of them untill my omnia 7 charges again
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Do you have a bit of battery left?
Windows Phone 7 devices power up when you plug them in. Maybe the OS is not booting and because it is S-AMOLED display we cannot tell if it is on or not.
Try Hard Resetting without booting WP7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Omnia_7
Make sure you have a bit of power though, you don't want that to stop in the middle of the proccess
This has happened to me a couple of times. I think it's just a reporting bug, the battery is actually charging. I just have to restart the phone and it magically has charge
battery is charging too long
How long does take to fully charge the battery? For me it's about 4-5 hours with wall charger. Should not it be faster?
Mine is about the same for a full charge and I have also noticed my Omnia 7 not charging properly when I plug it into my MacBook Air however it does seem to charge fine on my Dell laptop for work.
Maybe the Omnia 7 is very sensitive for charging over USB on a laptop and needs a certain voltage for it to charge properly?
What works for me:
1. Original charger
2. iPhone 4 charger
3. iPhone 3GS charger
4. Blackberry Curve charger
Not tried any other micro-usb cables yet but will do at some point in the future.
I had the same problem too. The battery was suspiciously showing high levels for the last three days (went without a charge!). In the morning, the alarm did not go off, and I realised the battery was dead dead! Charged (wall charger) for 1.5 h without any use -- would turn off if I unplugged. Tried with the USB cable too (connecting to computer) and no use.
I read this post, and tried with the wall charger again, and it shows me ~60% battery, and seems to be charging normally!
Will post an update, but really seems like a forced discharge cycle to me too!!
Thanks for this thread, and I am interested in seeing if any more ppl are seeing such issues!
At least once, but sometimes twice a week, my battery keeps discharging while my Omnia 7 is attached to USB. And even the icon shows it should be charging.
The solution I use is taking the battery out for 10-15 seconds, put it back in, switch the device on, and charging works like it should be.
I hope they come up with a solution, because it's quite annoying.
Willem
Netherlands
Hello, it has been happening to me for last 2 days that when I put the phone on charger, the battery sometimes charges at an extremely slow rate (14% to 23% in 1.5 hrs), and sometimes it even discharges while the charger is connected. I am attaching the battery screen here.
You can see that first it goes down from 100 during morning to evening. This is normal behavior owing to my usage. Then I charged it and up goes the curve with a high angle because I use a good charger. This is also fine. Then I disconnect and heavily use the phone again and then put the phone on charger overnight. This is where the problem starts!
Now you see, first of all the battery starts going up then it suddenly starts dropping while still on charger. I woke up to find 23% battery after charging overnight. I noticed in the screenshot that my phone was constantly waking up all night long, may be this could have been the problem. So I connected it to charger again to see the battery level rising in front of my eyes. But again, after 3 hours I found that my battery is 51% and the curve has started to fall down again, and this time there were not enough wakeups.wakelocks.
I am using a powerful charger. It is made in china but it charges all the phones in my home perfectly. I also tried on another charger (also probably china) with the same results on my phone only.
I am using the stock rom, unrooted (can't root version 182.*.*.*)
Do you have thinks running in the background while you charge? Mines charges a lot faster if I turn off internet, kill background apps.
Also is it overheating while chsrgeing? You get a better charge if the phone stays cool
And third your phone might think the charger is a computer. I say this because mines charges really sloe when I connect it to a computer, like 12% per hour. Try a third charger, diffrent brand and wattage compared to the ones yoive tried. it might help.
yes there are background apps but there hasn't been a change which triggered this. the background have worked fine before.
no overheating issue. in fact, this device always feels cooler.
I've always used this charger, my whole family uses it without any issue but now the problem just started happening to me. and even with me the problem is not constant. I just charged up to 50% without any problem. there is one thing left to try. that is, I should try to restart in safe mode and try charging in that mode. if that works fine then it's definitely an app, otherwise the issue may be bigger.
So I let the phone get below 15% the other day and I plugged it into a charger from an older samsung device and continued browsing. Before I knew it the phone was at 0% and it just shut down. While still plugged in, the phone made a few attempts to boot up but at the end I had to get the battery out. After getting the battery in and plugging in the charger again the phone didn't show any signs of life. Like I hard bricked it. After a few desperate attempts the screen flashed and a few minutes later the phone booted up like it normally would (This happened while it was still plugged in). Now it just won't charge as quickly even with the fast charger. The phone normally gets pretty hot while charging, now it just stays cold.
NOTE: I had it charging trough the night with the old charger but it didn't go over 15%.
I am running Ressurection remix 20150714.
I think it's got something to do with the hardware, and if it does, would the warranty fix this?
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So I let the phone get below 15% the other day and I plugged it into a charger from an older samsung device and continued browsing. Before I knew it the phone was at 0% and it just shut down. While still plugged in, the phone made a few attempts to boot up but at the end I had to get the battery out. After getting the battery in and plugging in the charger again the phone didn't show any signs of life. Like I hard bricked it. After a few desperate attempts the screen flashed and a few minutes later the phone booted up like it normally would (This happened while it was still plugged in). Now it just won't charge as quickly even with the fast charger. The phone normally gets pretty hot while charging, now it just stays cold.
NOTE: I had it charging trough the night with the old charger but it didn't go over 15%.
I am running Ressurection remix 20150714.
I think it's got something to do with the hardware, and if it does, would the warranty fix this?
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That's really not normal if your phone don't get hot while charging
Try a different cable (maybe it charging too slow), buy a new charger or charge your phone on PC. Check if an app use much battery/CPU and check if the battery is swollen or try an another battery. Update your ROM version maybe it's a software bug or reflash it. If nothing solve the problem then maybe you need to clear the usb socket of your phone or it's maybe damanged . Be careful if you clear the usb socket!
Sorry for too much maybe's
Good luck :highfive:
I checked the port, it's pretty nasty but I doubt that's the problem. I'll try and clean it up with a toothpick or something.
Checked the CPU usage and apps and it all seems normal.
I'm not home currently, but I'll do a full reset and roll back to cm11 when I get back.
I've used a travel charger from an older device, an Alcatel charger which actually charged my phone and my factory charger. The factory charger works best for now but it still takes like 5 hours to charge. The phone took less than 2 hours before...
Anyway thanks for the help so far, I really appreciate it.
How much mA you get while charging with the original one? Check it via Gsam battery app
Downloaded it, here's what I got.
Gsam is alternative of Bbs, but with better gui. Look at my ss - I can saw mA of discharge and charge the battery. With stock battery Ive got around 750mA
Yesterday for whole night i kept the mobile for charging and it showed 8% charged i thought it charged up and removed the socket before I knew it the phone was at 0% and it just shut down. While still plugged in, the phone made a few attempts to boot up but at the end I had to get the battery out. After getting the battery in and plugging in the charger again the phone didn't show any signs of life. Like I hard bricked it. After a few desperate attempts the screen flashed and a few minutes later the phone showed the sign of charging but it ended up (This happened while it was still plugged in). Now it just won't charge as quickly even with the fast charger and it wont shows any sign of life.
NOTE: I charged for whole night but is charged to only 8%