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battery died...?

So here is my problem. Last night my Cingular 8125's battery was around 15% remaining. So i plugged it in for the night to charge. When I plugged it in, the orange light turned on showing that it was charging. This morning I was laying in bed playing some games on it (no work yay!) and the orange light had turned to green (usually means full charge). Then I get up to go out for breakfast, I unplug my phone and throw it in my pocket. I get to the restaurant and pull it out to send a quick Text message, and the damn thing was OFF. I go hmmm, long story short, the battery had 0% left. Now, no more than 10 minutes earlier, it was plugged in, WORKING, with apparently a full charge (green light). Now when I plug it in to either a USB data cable to my computer, a cigarette lighter or a house charger, then orange charging light does not come on. I can't get it to turn on PERIOD. WTF is going on here. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Also, are my appointments and stuff since my last Sync going to be gone? If so, )($*%)@(*%!!!!! But more importantly, I just want to know if this is something fixable or do I have to take it back to Cingular tomorrow morning? THANKS!!!

This is the first battery fialure I've heard about, but it's certainly a possibility.
As for your appointments, etc. - they should be OK, since WM5 uses persistent storage, all should be there.
Try plugging in the charger and see if you can check them. Also, try to back it up while plugged in, just in case.

This is the first battery fialure I've heard about, but it's certainly a possibility.
As for your appointments, etc. - they should be OK, since WM5 uses persistent storage, all should be there.
Try plugging in the charger and see if you can check them. Also, try to back it up while plugged in, just in case.

Mine did the same thing
I had a very similar experience. I was using my Qtak 9100 until the battery warning came on. I plugged it into my USB to charge overnight but for some reason it did not charge. It wouldn't even turn on. The USB charger would not get it running, the wall charger would not work either.
As far as I can tell the PPC uses a software driven smart charger. WM5 has to be running in order for the charger to work. My battery had gotten so low the OS couldn't run. I was screwed.
I ended up buying a new battery and things booted up fine. I'm now very careful with how low I let the battery go.
Leon.

Try this:
Remove the battery and the SIM card for about 8 hours, then reinsert both and plug it in again.
I think this might do it.

J-Mac said:
Try this:
Remove the battery and the SIM card for about 8 hours, then reinsert both and plug it in again.
I think this might do it.
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I wish I had seen this last night, because now I am going to the Cingular store and making them either give me a new battery or a new phone...luckily last night I had run a full backup with SPB backup while it was "charging." So hopefully everything will still be there.

Phone does not charge!

I have tried my PC and the mains charger, the LED cycles from orange > off > green > off constantly, the phone shows it is charging but the battery keeps decreasing.
Only 30% left to try and find a fix for this, hard reset doesnt help!
Any ideas?

Same problem HD
I had the same problem with my HD ages ago (before HD2) I reflashed the rom and that fixed the problem. The other cause with a HD2 can be a non genuine USB-micro cable I used a Nokia and although the yellow light came on it never charged. I found out that the wire configuration in the nokia cable is diffrent to the HD2.
Hope this helps

srw985 said:
I have tried my PC and the mains charger, the LED cycles from orange > off > green > off constantly, the phone shows it is charging but the battery keeps decreasing.
Only 30% left to try and find a fix for this, hard reset doesnt help!
Any ideas?
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I have the same problem which started after i got a desktop charger.
At the moment I just switch to the spare battery that is in the charger.
I am currently searching to see if anyone else has had similar issues.
Of course I have loaded an official rom , just in case anyone suggests it but will not do mtty till I find evidence it helps.
lakeman

Strange, the only thing I could think of is the option in the battery screen to prevent the phone recharging when plugged into a PC - I have this ticked myself as it's not good for your battery to keep putting it on and off charge. However, it should still charge when plugged into the mains.

lakeman said:
I have the same problem which started after i got a desktop charger.
At the moment I just switch to the spare battery that is in the charger.
I am currently searching to see if anyone else has had similar issues.
Of course I have loaded an official rom , just in case anyone suggests it but will not do mtty till I find evidence it helps.
lakeman
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An update:
the non genuine battery may be the issue
I checked its capacity with htc tools and it seemed fine but needs to be fast charged in the desktop holder.
Anyway thats my theory so far.
Lakeman

Pagnell said:
Strange, the only thing I could think of is the option in the battery screen to prevent the phone recharging when plugged into a PC - I have this ticked myself as it's not good for your battery to keep putting it on and off charge. However, it should still charge when plugged into the mains.
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Thanks, I thought of this but sadly not so simple.

The problem was that the middle pin of the battery connector was slightly bent and just needed pushing back into place. I suggest you all try it as a search of the forum showed me its a common issue.

it only happens for non-genuine battery. just leave it charging over night. or get separate desktop charger for the non-genuine battery.

Similar but different problem...
Battery is genuine as is the USB lead and charger.
Phone is flashed to 1.66 factory Rom , unlocked via unlock code
Had phone for 3 weeks and no real problems , only ever charged on the comp/car via usb. On monday morning the battery was at about 8% so i dug out the mains charger for the first time to give it a fast charge by the time i was ready to go to work the battery was at 30%. On the 2 hr drive i left the phone on charge in the car.
On arrival i checked the phone for messages and it was frozen , i took the battery out and replaced it and the phone fired up with 8% charge.
When i picked the phone up after 2 hrs on charge in the car the bottom (between battery and usb slot was VERY warm.
in the office i put the phone on charge on the mains and no light came on , but the phone seemed to stay at 8% and the back below the battry got warm very quickly.
eventualy after lots of messing about the battery is dead , charging does nothing except mae it very warm.
went into the local t-mobile to get a new battery , they didn't have one but the girl in the shop had a hd2 so we tried her battery in my phone, phone fired up , but still woldn't charge.
Last desperate move i reset the phone to factory settings , still no charge.
Only 2 things happened to the phone prior to the charging issue
a) I activated Microsft Myphone
b) I put in a 16gb mem card
Anyone have any ideas what to try next ?

Return your phone for repair...

yeah its looking that way , just on the hope i missed something

Brand new Atrix won't charge. Green LED.

I installed/flashed Gingerblur yesterday and it was working fine for the whole day. At night, I put it back into it's case because I'm still waiting for my New Screen Protector and Case to come. I take really good care of it. Then I did not use the phone for the whole day. After having a really bad day, I started up my brand new Atrix for some fun and it was already at around 5% battery left so I went ahead and tried to charge it. I noticed plugging it into the computer did not work, so I tried wall charging it and that also did not work.
To sum it up,
Symptoms:
-Green Led for 2-3 seconds when I hold down the top main button then shuts off led. Note: Only happens/works if the phone is plugged into the wall.
-Green Led for 4 or more seconds if I plug in wall charger then shuts off led.
-No visual image on screen after battery drained out at all.
What can I do? I don't think I bricked it since it was working perfectly yesterday. Is there anything I can do? I have tried removing battery with no avail, it is plugged in to the wall charger still for the past hour.

This is a very weird problem and I don't know the exact answer..I just know i bricked my atrix before (failed to flash on a full battery) and couldn't charge the dead battery even on AC.
I ended up buying a universal battery charger from radioshack and then returning it once I got my battery fully charged and flashed the rom. Haven't had any battery problems since.
Hope this helps

Thanks, I will try this but it is night time right now. I hope someone else has had experience of this before and can guide me to any other directions.
I did not fail a flash, unless the flash can fail even if Gingerblur was working 100% before it failed. I don't know if thats possible.

Are you using the usb cable/charger that came with the phone?
I know it sounds ridiculous but the phone does NOT charge on any of my existing MicroUSB cables or wall chargers (used to have a nexus one). Pretty bummed about that :/

Yeah I am using the one that came with it.
I also want to update that I've tried my sister's HTC Inspire charger and an old Samsung charger I have left around.
Both are USB to wall Adapters (I am not using the same wall power adapter for each charger) so I wonder if I need the one that plugs directly into the wall?

Yeah, you probably just have a dysfunctional battery or charger, either way, you're going to have to diagnose which one is the problem (fingers crossed that it isn't the phone)
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it sounds like its not the charger, from your most recent post.
I think your phone is the problem, it's not processing how to charge the battery from the cable.

Common problem. You need at least 850mA to charge the phone, so older usb ports wont work. The wall charger is actually working. Pull the battery out, put it back in, plug in the wall charger(don't press any buttons!) and let it sit for about 30min to get a decent charge. Should boot up after that.

designgears said:
Common problem. You need at least 850mA to charge the phone, so older usb ports wont work. The wall charger is actually working. Pull the battery out, put it back in, plug in the wall charger(don't press any buttons!) and let it sit for about 30min to get a decent charge. Should boot up after that.
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Hm, it's been charging for over an hour now and still hasn't turned on. But I did not do it exactly as you said. I unplugged the battery acouple times but I always try to hold the "fingerprint" on button right after plugging it in. I'll try not pressing anything this time. Thanks, I'll post back if I get any results.

The phone should turn on if charging, you don't need 850mA either. Standard USB is 500 and it just charges slower. I know this for a fact as I just charged it like that.
Take it into a store or contact where you bought it from.
Plugging in phone while off: Green LED for a bit, moto logo, battery icon
Power on, no charger : green light for a bit longer, moto logo, boot animation.
Try an at&t stores charger and see if theyll let you charge the battery.
Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G on the network with the most backhaul, whatever that is. This post might have errors as I hate touchscreen keyboards.

Mgamerz said:
The phone should turn on if charging, you don't need 850mA either. Standard USB is 500 and it just charges slower.
Take it into a store or contact amazon support.
Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G on the network with the most backhaul, whatever that is. This post might have errors as I hate touchscreen keyboards.
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With a dead battery you need 850 mAH. The phone needs 850 mA ti boot and it needs to boot to charge (strange yes but software controls the charge).
I would suggest trying all the chargers you can (the Moto one may be giving you to little amps) and if that does not work you can try to either 1) make a dev cable (post on how to in the dev section, though it requires soldering and such so you may not be able to do it if you don't have supplies) or 2) get a charger for the battery (one to directly charge the battery vice through the phone).

The battery method did not work, I did not try to hold the main button until 1 hour later to no avail. I'm going to Best Buy tomorrow for a replacement.

Edit: Oops..Too late to the party! I had the same issue that was fixed when I used a good quality micro-usb charger!

850ma? You sure?
I've charged and booted my phone from dead on a 700ma charger and 500ma usb on numerous occasions.

U need not worry .. put it in a wall charger .. and let it sit dere for atleast an hour .. the green led will come up when charge level reaches around 50% or more .. be patient ..
LivingChampion said:
I installed/flashed Gingerblur yesterday and it was working fine for the whole day. At night, I put it back into it's case because I'm still waiting for my New Screen Protector and Case to come. I take really good care of it. Then I did not use the phone for the whole day. After having a really bad day, I started up my brand new Atrix for some fun and it was already at around 5% battery left so I went ahead and tried to charge it. I noticed plugging it into the computer did not work, so I tried wall charging it and that also did not work.
To sum it up,
Symptoms:
-Green Led for 2-3 seconds when I hold down the top main button then shuts off led. Note: Only happens/works if the phone is plugged into the wall.
-Green Led for 4 or more seconds if I plug in wall charger then shuts off led.
-No visual image on screen after battery drained out at all.
What can I do? I don't think I bricked it since it was working perfectly yesterday. Is there anything I can do? I have tried removing battery with no avail, it is plugged in to the wall charger still for the past hour.
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I had the exact same issue the other day. I forgot to put my phone on charge at night, and it was dead in the morning. I plugged into the wall with my Moto charger, the phone turned on and went right to CWM. I rebooted from there, the phone showed 5% battery level, and within 10-15 minutes was at 20%.
I thought it strange my phone went right to the old Tenfar CWM even though I uninstalled it after unlocking my phone and installing the latest CWM from Tenfar.
It does seem that the shut off with the battery is 5%. I am assuming this is the safety factor built into either the Android OS, or the batteries themselves, as they do have circuits in them much like mini computers to shut them off before 100% discharge, as this will kill a Lithium Ion battery.
Some simple facts regarding the Lithium Ion batteries:
•They start degrading as soon as they leave the factory. They will only last two or three years from the date of manufacture whether you use them or not.
•They are extremely sensitive to high temperatures. Heat causes lithium-ion battery packs to degrade much faster than they normally would.
•If you completely discharge a lithium-ion battery, it is ruined.
•A lithium-ion battery pack must have an on-board computer to manage the battery. This makes them even more expensive than they already are.
•There is a small chance that, if a lithium-ion battery pack fails, it will burst into flame.
What I would like to know is why some people have problems getting a charge back in the Atrix after a complete discharge. There I was at 20% after 10-15 minutes using the Moto wall charger, while other people can't even get their phones to turn on after an hour on the wall charger.

I have the same problem, tried everything and finally found a solution
Get a warranty replacement.
The phone won't turn on, so they don't know what you did to it.
Got my new phone today, popped the dead battery in and voila, it charges !
Sometimes it's like people say, it's because of the charge, but your phone probably have issue, just get a replacement

I let it charge all night and it still has the same symptoms. Going to Best Buy in an hour when it opens.
When I get my new phone, should I Gingerblur it again or am I going to face this same issue? Was this software related or hardware?
Gingerblur was relatively easy to do, but I don't want to risk killing my phone a second time.
UPDATE: Got a replacement phone. Complementing whether I want to Gingerblur it again because that's the only thing that could have caused the battery issue other than it being hardware related.

LivingChampion said:
I let it charge all night and it still has the same symptoms. Going to Best Buy in an hour when it opens.
When I get my new phone, should I Gingerblur it again or am I going to face this same issue? Was this software related or hardware?
Gingerblur was relatively easy to do, but I don't want to risk killing my phone a second time.
UPDATE: Got a replacement phone. Complementing whether I want to Gingerblur it again because that's the only thing that could have caused the battery issue other than it being hardware related.
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You can try it again should work fine for you. If not...
You can always use their phone and your "dead battery" and visa versa theirs into your phone. Then if same issue happens. Just warranty the phone. If your in warranty do it. I've had g1's for no reason not charge. Led says it, os says it, yet NONE of my working batteries were getting any charge off the phone. Especially when the phone was 3 days old. Warranty.... if its free do it.

tehrules said:
850ma? You sure?
I've charged and booted my phone from dead on a 700ma charger and 500ma usb on numerous occasions.
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Well, according to motorola it needs that much... so you never know

Ciloteille said:
You can try it again should work fine for you. If not...
You can always use their phone and your "dead battery" and visa versa theirs into your phone. Then if same issue happens. Just warranty the phone. If your in warranty do it. I've had g1's for no reason not charge. Led says it, os says it, yet NONE of my working batteries were getting any charge off the phone. Especially when the phone was 3 days old. Warranty.... if its free do it.
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Yes if warranty then ok .. But we are here to do the impossible.. I just reconditioned a new battery just so it can turn phone on in same instance for a friend. So yes batteries and phones new can have charging issues.
There is an issue with smart-phones and batteries and has been since day one. If you are here then evidently you either love these phones and want to mod them or you are like me and love playing with electronics. Real simple if you in the smart-phone world there are a few rules of thumb..
1.) Never begin working without a fully charged battery (some say 51% or better I say 100% )
2.) Buy , borrow , get an external battery charger and/or stronger wall charger
3.) Extra batteries are always good.
4.) Read the damn stickies and wiki's ... People have taken plenty of time creating them. Those who know me know I have written some myself.
5.) The biggest problem is located between the chair and the keyboard .... (lol)

[Q] Charging Problem

Hi,
By battery was running low so i turned the tablet off, plugged it in and went out. When i came back i turned it on only to find that the charge was at the same level as when i left it. I first thought it was the charger, but after testing it was fine. On plugging the charger back in the battery symbol comes up and shows that it is full, before the screen goes black for a short period before the symbol comes back up again showing it is full (Im unsure if it normally does when charged as i cant remember)
I then turned the tablet back on and left it to charge. The device charged slowly, but when i checked the battery status the tablet claimed that it was NOT charging.
Im worried that when it runs down it will not charge to turn back on. On the other hand it might recognise the battery is flat and charge normally.....
Anyone got any suggestions?

Update: I left it on and plugged in overnight and it charged back up to 100%, albeit very slowly (I woke up once and checked and it had only reached 75% after about 4 hours).
So still not sure what to do. Factory reset?

Even i had the same problem
Try changing ur usb cable,
it worked for me

Stock USB cable lasted one day for me. Absolute garbage. No problems using the stock cable from my ancient HP Touchpad.

Barking_Mad said:
Update: I left it on and plugged in overnight and it charged back up to 100%, albeit very slowly (I woke up once and checked and it had only reached 75% after about 4 hours).
So still not sure what to do. Factory reset?
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Sorry to jump on a fairly of thread, but....
Hi Barking Mad,
Did you ever get to the bottom of your particular charging issue? I've bought a TN7from ebay, and I'm having ng exactly the same problems as you described. Not really charging when turned off and the screen showing the charging symbol for a couple of seconds before going black and then showing the same symbol again. It will charge whilst turned on, albeit it very slowly.
I was just hoping you may be able to shed some light on my problem for me!
Thanks
David

davej83 said:
Sorry to jump on a fairly of thread, but....
Hi Barking Mad,
Did you ever get to the bottom of your particular charging issue? I've bought a TN7from ebay, and I'm having ng exactly the same problems as you described. Not really charging when turned off and the screen showing the charging symbol for a couple of seconds before going black and then showing the same symbol again. It will charge whilst turned on, albeit it very slowly.
I was just hoping you may be able to shed some light on my problem for me!
Thanks
David
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make sure you use a hi capacity charger 1A plus most phone chargers are too low and will only trickle charge when the unit is off, also my four came from ebay with no power faults and I patched a QI charger inside the casing as the usb ports had failed.
I'd do that to any tn7 now as the port is just too fragile and might be needed for an emergency recovery.

S3 neo charges extremely slowly if it does at all

So I let the phone get below 15% the other day and I plugged it into a charger from an older samsung device and continued browsing. Before I knew it the phone was at 0% and it just shut down. While still plugged in, the phone made a few attempts to boot up but at the end I had to get the battery out. After getting the battery in and plugging in the charger again the phone didn't show any signs of life. Like I hard bricked it. After a few desperate attempts the screen flashed and a few minutes later the phone booted up like it normally would (This happened while it was still plugged in). Now it just won't charge as quickly even with the fast charger. The phone normally gets pretty hot while charging, now it just stays cold.
NOTE: I had it charging trough the night with the old charger but it didn't go over 15%.
I am running Ressurection remix 20150714.
I think it's got something to do with the hardware, and if it does, would the warranty fix this?

Sp/\ce said:
So I let the phone get below 15% the other day and I plugged it into a charger from an older samsung device and continued browsing. Before I knew it the phone was at 0% and it just shut down. While still plugged in, the phone made a few attempts to boot up but at the end I had to get the battery out. After getting the battery in and plugging in the charger again the phone didn't show any signs of life. Like I hard bricked it. After a few desperate attempts the screen flashed and a few minutes later the phone booted up like it normally would (This happened while it was still plugged in). Now it just won't charge as quickly even with the fast charger. The phone normally gets pretty hot while charging, now it just stays cold.
NOTE: I had it charging trough the night with the old charger but it didn't go over 15%.
I am running Ressurection remix 20150714.
I think it's got something to do with the hardware, and if it does, would the warranty fix this?
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That's really not normal if your phone don't get hot while charging
Try a different cable (maybe it charging too slow), buy a new charger or charge your phone on PC. Check if an app use much battery/CPU and check if the battery is swollen or try an another battery. Update your ROM version maybe it's a software bug or reflash it. If nothing solve the problem then maybe you need to clear the usb socket of your phone or it's maybe damanged . Be careful if you clear the usb socket!
Sorry for too much maybe's
Good luck :highfive:

I checked the port, it's pretty nasty but I doubt that's the problem. I'll try and clean it up with a toothpick or something.
Checked the CPU usage and apps and it all seems normal.
I'm not home currently, but I'll do a full reset and roll back to cm11 when I get back.
I've used a travel charger from an older device, an Alcatel charger which actually charged my phone and my factory charger. The factory charger works best for now but it still takes like 5 hours to charge. The phone took less than 2 hours before...
Anyway thanks for the help so far, I really appreciate it.

How much mA you get while charging with the original one? Check it via Gsam battery app

Downloaded it, here's what I got.

Gsam is alternative of Bbs, but with better gui. Look at my ss - I can saw mA of discharge and charge the battery. With stock battery Ive got around 750mA

Yesterday for whole night i kept the mobile for charging and it showed 8% charged i thought it charged up and removed the socket before I knew it the phone was at 0% and it just shut down. While still plugged in, the phone made a few attempts to boot up but at the end I had to get the battery out. After getting the battery in and plugging in the charger again the phone didn't show any signs of life. Like I hard bricked it. After a few desperate attempts the screen flashed and a few minutes later the phone showed the sign of charging but it ended up (This happened while it was still plugged in). Now it just won't charge as quickly even with the fast charger and it wont shows any sign of life.
NOTE: I charged for whole night but is charged to only 8%