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So like.. The Acer Iconia Tab A500 is a amazing built tablet and all but the little problems that acer has are horrible.. As in sleep wake/off, updates, battery drain by a phone app.. And etc.. Now im thinking about all of this and im thinking do any of you think it would be a good idea to return and wait til the new samsung or toshiba come out? Tomorrow i should be in work and i will be asking my manager if they got a release date on the samsung or toshiba tablet.. Since i work at staples and we should be getting the samsung nd toshiba from what i know.. Now im wondering everybody explain why acer should be kept because from the prices samsung is only a 50$ difference thats not a lot.. So lets hear it? I think the updates and bootloader being locked are my two biggest concerns about this tablet because im a crackflasher on my phone i wanna do the same on my tablet =]
AH! ****.. Somebody please move this to general i thought i was in the general section..
I returned mine today
Loved the tablet bur dreampt of unlocked recovery. I miss it already, hefty tab but so many ports
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Yeah i know im thinking about returning or keeping.. I need more input come on =]
Return it. Then second-guess your next purchase...
It's technology. It's a moving target. Remember your first blu-ray player?
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The will always be "the next best thing" the samsung is nice and thin but lacks ports. The toshiba is a bit of an unknown at the moment, and afaik this is there first step into the android os and cell/mobile market, so even more bugs are likely. I've had 2 Acer android cellphones, and there updates and stability was superb. In a few weeks we will have 3.1 and I'm quite sure most if not all bugs will be fixed. Just look at the bugs the xoom had when it was released...... not even a working sd card. And now there quite happy with there little tablet. The iconia is still brand spankin new, let Acer iron out the bugs....... they will
Yea but the stupid.. Phone and Tele app that eat battery nd mess up updates is freaking retarded.. The toshiba should be coming early june i could return my tablet for a while since i work at the store i bought it from and my manager will take it back so lets see.. Im trying to give Acer a chance since i own a Acer netbook and Computer and both are great.. Never bought a Acer phone but the tablet is built amazingly just what they did with software is horrible..
I was at Best Buy today bringing my A500 for an exchange for another A500 due to the HDMI port was kinda loose, and when touching the cable the pictures/video would go off on the monitor. I'm digging the Acer..
My cousin has an Asus transformer 16gb .... I made fun of him when I pointed out that his Asus didn't have flash, a low resolution front cam ... OH , when I was there, in the same spot where they stock the tablets, I saw at least three or four Motorola XOOM..... all was open box.
IMO .. all I care for is specs...and it seems that majority of the new tablets including the acer has really close in hardware specs, besides cosmetic.
The only thing giving me pause is lack of recovery. I'm used to being able to fix stuff myself. If tis thing goes tits up I have to rely on my retailer to take care of me.
Hmmm...you think anyone from acer is reading this? Love the tablet but hate their support.
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Hmmm...you think anyone from acer is reading this? Love the tablet but hate their support.
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You never know on the galaxy s forum a guy named samsung jhon who worked for samsung was responsible for checking out the xda forum, and trying to keep the dev community happy. Of course he was chased out of the forum by all the haters and trolls, but it goes to show this little forum of ours can make a difference if we just keep voicing our discontent about the lack of recovery/locked bootloader.
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Return it. Then second-guess your next purchase...
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lmao. So true.
Personally i'm glad the 'issues' are only a little battery drain (still unsubstanciated i might add), the screen popping on for a few seconds maybe once or twice.... what where the other ones? "etc" issues? Yeah, etc issues... whatever those are...
I didn't drop $500 for a toy. I bought a tool and as far as tools go, it meets and exceeds my expectations. Why so many people see fit to hop on and off the train, i think, says more about their personality than the tablet and whatever issues there might be (real or otherwise).
Go ahead, OP, get ride of it. It doesn't want you either. (;
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You never know on the galaxy s forum a guy named samsung jhon who worked for samsung was responsible for checking out the xda forum, and trying to keep the dev community happy. Of course he was chased out of the forum by all the haters and trolls, but it goes to show this little forum of ours can make a difference if we just keep voicing our discontent about the lack of recovery/locked bootloader.
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Lol we chased samsung john away with pitchforks and torches. That whole thing was a total sham.
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gammaRascal said:
lmao. So true.
Personally i'm glad the 'issues' are only a little battery drain (still unsubstanciated i might add), the screen popping on for a few seconds maybe once or twice.... what where the other ones? "etc" issues? Yeah, etc issues... whatever those are...
I didn't drop $500 for a toy. I bought a tool and as far as tools go, it meets and exceeds my expectations. Why so many people see fit to hop on and off the train, i think, says more about their personality than the tablet and whatever issues there might be (real or otherwise).
Go ahead, OP, get ride of it. It doesn't want you either. (;
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Lol.. The way you put it it sounds horrible.. Lol but no the etc i mean locked bootloader, no recovery, you cant delete specfic apps because if you do and try to restore you get a brick, updates mostly international, and **** like that the acer is built good and i know theres always something new around the corner because i have had android since the g1 days and getting a new phone like every 3 months i know about the new things lmfao so im just thinking on if acer will make it better in the next couple weeks because if they do and they fix everything i would happily stay with acer because right now i dont want to risk anything on the tablet try to do anything because i know theres no way of returning it to stock at the moment if i eff something up i just want that satisfaction that if i **** something up i can fix it myself and not call acer and send it out and have them fix it..
I hear ya.
I don't consider the locked bootloader, personal recovery option and inability to remove pre-installed apps as 'issues'. And, really, it isn't. At least, not for those of us who just use it as it was intended to be used.
Yes, the a500 needs a little tweaking, however it's mostly Honeycomb and all minor. Unlike some tabs that have glaring hardware issues, the a500 leads the pack in quality and consistency. IMO, anyways (; (sure I'm biased but I have played with other tabs)
Don't get me wrong, I see the value in being able to recover on your own (if something goes awry) but in the end, it went that way because of user error (or bad mod, whatever the case may be) and because it was unlocked / rooted - It's no fault of Acer and it shouldn't be held against them or the tablet. Like all other tablet manufacturers, they wouldn't support that even if they did release the key. And in the end, all we'd really get out of it all are more people bricking their tabs, Acer getting screwed over by people lying and returning their tabs - all for the ability to what? Delete or rename a few files? Get back maybe, 100mb on a 16gb tab with microSD and USB?
If some mod came out that flipped HC on it's head and created a user experience that surpasses all others, then, and only then, would I ever consider rooting (ROM hacking etc ((if that ever becomes possible)) Until then, what few and silly 'root req' apps there are and minuscule returns one gets are far too insignificant for me.
But, you know. In the end, it about what you want. If modability is a prerequisite, you probably should have waited. If you take it back, you might want to consider waiting until you know for a fact that all those features are available in the next tablet du-jour.
I get what ur saying.. But heres the thing ive played with the xoom and asus and everything there built great as well just those little features that i wont use like usb support are the only thing missing on those other tablets.. I like root because it can help me get rid of the stuff i dont use and is running the background.. also the custom roms are usually a lot better than what the manufacturs usually release with the hardware.. So idk im gonna wait til the new thing comes out and see what the developers do with it.. Since i only had the tablet for a week nd 2 days.. I have a while to return =]
return it, by the looks of your phone list seems like your indecisive(not trying to be mean) the wake up issue is not a big deal and will get fixed. i get over a days use with heavy use.
if this tab gets regular support will flashing new ROMS really be necessary. i mean on HTC hero chirst that thing needed support there was no way to make it through a two year contract with it.
Now my nexus s theres support on here for it and its great. but out of the box it works just fine
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return it, by the looks of your phone list seems like your indecisive(not trying to be mean) the wake up issue is not a big deal and will get fixed. i get over a days use with heavy use.
if this tab gets regular support will flashing new ROMS really be necessary. i mean on HTC hero chirst that thing needed support there was no way to make it through a two year contract with it.
Now my nexus s theres support on here for it and its great. but out of the box it works just fine
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Lol i dont mind if your being mean I'm not gonna get a fit over internet lmao but anyways its not that I'm indecisive its just i like the most new thing out on the market I'm just a big fan of all the new technology.. And i think flashing roms and seeing what you can do with the power that's available is great it just makes everything you do so much better that's the only reason i want the unlocked everything and i think with what the people are actually trying here at XDA is amazing because from the way things are going i think they might have a recovery soon =]..
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Lol i dont mind if your being mean I'm not gonna get a fit over internet lmao but anyways its not that I'm indecisive its just i like the most new thing out on the market I'm just a big fan of all the new technology.. And i think flashing roms and seeing what you can do with the power that's available is great it just makes everything you do so much better that's the only reason i want the unlocked everything and i think with what the people are actually trying here at XDA is amazing because from the way things are going i think they might have a recovery soon =]..
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Don't get me wrong but i think switching hardware that often and just flashing ROMs and software made by other people is called consumerism. Ahum. What's the point of switching the device unless you've explored all its hardware, know all electronic details like chips used and gpios/clocks or unless it's just too old to run software you need for work?
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Don't get me wrong but i think switching hardware that often and just flashing ROMs and software made by other people is called consumerism. Ahum. What's the point of switching the device unless you've explored all its hardware, know all electronic details like chips used and gpios/clocks or unless it's just too old to run software you need for work?
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+1, I only wish I were more development savvy side to help out...
I'm merely a lowly Oracle/MSSQL server, EMC SAN?NAS admin.....
Well i have no idea why i switch so much maybe i just like that new phone/tablet/computer feeling lol but hey you guys do put up some good points so lets see what happens..
I'm just sayin..... I'm not trying to start anything its just that every time I come on to XDA theres never really a new topic for the Acer A50-
I have an EVO 4g and theres always new topics and development and I have had other HTC phones and been here for a frew years now
With no bootloader access (except for It's Magic), No drivers, and slow support from manufacture and otherwise.
I have a feeling that this tablet is out to lunch and soon out to pasture.
What do you think?
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I also own an A500 and a HTC EVO 4G. Although I do understand a bit where you're coming from, I think it's mostly a difference between a phone and a tablet forum.
I also think it's a difference in quantity versus quality. We have some very nice, stable ROMs for the A500 where everything works. For most EVO ROM announcement threads, I just disregard them after reading the OP and seeing that 4G doesn't work, GPS has problems, MMS has problems, landscape Rosie doesn't work, etc. Plus quite a few of those EVO "ROMs" are just tweaked versions of earlier released ROMs that are heavily themed.
Also, I think the A500 community here on XDA is a little guilty of running off quite a few of our devs by being ungrateful, overly demanding, etc. Compound that with some devs having a little bit of an attitude, and I think we're lucky to have the devs that we still do.
Although I almost immediately wanted to root/ROM my EVO 4G, I was perfectly happy with stock root on my A500, and that's basically what I'm running now. I flashed ezterry's 3.2.1 ROM, tweaked it a little myself, threw ADW Launcher EX at it with a nice theme, and I'm a happy camper patiently waiting for Acer to release ICS.
There is a big difference between phone ownership and tablet ownership. I would have to guess its something like 10,000 android phone owners to every 1 android tablet owner. And the Evo 4g was the flagship of Android phone for a long time. I too owned the Evo 4g and my wife still has one. I moved on to the Evo 3d and love it. I agree, it would be nice to see some excitement in these forums but when I use my tablet I want it to work and work right. I switched back to a rooted stock rom because almost all of the roms I found were really just themes and had removed apps that I like. The roms that are highly customized like thors or flexstriker always have glitches or changed to much. I'll run stock until ICS drops and then I hope some more exciting developing will be going on. My work just purchased me an Ipad 2 and I have played with it for a few days now. I'll have to say, the Ipad will be used for work, but when I want to play I'll be reaching for my A500.
You know what I hated about all the roms for the evo, it was all the badly themed roms with the same tweaks.
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internetpilot said:
We have some very nice, stable ROMs for the A500 where everything works.
Also, I think the A500 community here on XDA is a little guilty of running off quite a few of our devs by being ungrateful, overly demanding, etc. Compound that with some devs having a little bit of an attitude, and I think we're lucky to have the devs that we still do.
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Exactly. Lately, we've had a new kernel released, along with a new recovery by Dres. And a couple of the newer released roms (3.2.1) @Civato and myself and a couple of others. So I wouldn't say that development has ceased. I would say, that Dev's and Modders have pushed HC about as far as it can go.
And yes, some people like to use the forum for their own battle ground. They know who they are. This isn't a backwoods chat room, but some people just like to start scandals.
But I am sure most people appreciate the work that is done. If you want to know how much work is put into things, get a stock rom, and try doing it.
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I'm just sayin..... I'm not trying to start anything its just that every time I come on to XDA theres never really a new topic for the Acer A50-
I have an EVO 4g and theres always new topics and development and I have had other HTC phones and been here for a frew years now
With no bootloader access (except for It's Magic), No drivers, and slow support from manufacture and otherwise.
I have a feeling that this tablet is out to lunch and soon out to pasture.
What do you think?
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It's easy to complain and say that there's nothing going on when you're not even giving any suggestions. I mean, more-or-less all the interesting things have already been tried and done, and the next thing to do would be to fundamentally alter how Honeycomb works. And that is simply a very big task to undertake.
Of course we could also go the same route as people like to go on other devices, ie. release a gazillion different ROMs where the only difference is in theming and color scheme. But that isn't development.
So go ahead and make some suggestions or wishes about what you'd want to see. Also keep in mind that HC is HC and many of us are satisfied with it as it is. Like e.g. I really have only one or two things to improve on that would even be possible with HC, everything else I want would require a whole new OS altogether. And as that ain't possible I really have no reason to develop for A500 at all, I simply don't view releasing yet another HC ROM that fixes the two minor nibbles I have with it as being worth my (or anyone else's) time.
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It's easy to complain and say that there's nothing going on when you're not even giving any suggestions. I mean, more-or-less all the interesting things have already been tried and done, and the next thing to do would be to fundamentally alter how Honeycomb works. And that is simply a very big task to undertake.
Of course we could also go the same route as people like to go on other devices, ie. release a gazillion different ROMs where the only difference is in theming and color scheme. But that isn't development.
So go ahead and make some suggestions or wishes about what you'd want to see. Also keep in mind that HC is HC and many of us are satisfied with it as it is. Like e.g. I really have only one or two things to improve on that would even be possible with HC, everything else I want would require a whole new OS altogether. And as that ain't possible I really have no reason to develop for A500 at all, I simply don't view releasing yet another HC ROM that fixes the two minor nibbles I have with it as being worth my (or anyone else's) time.
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maybe we just need to forget that f**ing HC maybe we need to look at the future HC for me is a waste of time and resources i just saying we could do better :angel
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maybe we just need to forget that f**ing HC maybe we need to look at the future HC for me is a waste of time and resources i just saying we could do better :angel
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Well, if you're referring to ICS then I have to say that even ICS doesn't address the fundamental issues I have with the whole Android platform. Of course it is a step up from HC, I'm not denying that, but even ICS is plenty rough around the corners and patched up with Mickey Mouse - plasters and chewing gum.
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Well, if you're referring to ICS then I have to say that even ICS doesn't address the fundamental issues I have with the whole Android platform. Of course it is a step up from HC, I'm not denying that, but even ICS is plenty rough around the corners and patched up with Mickey Mouse - plasters and chewing gum.
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As much as I like Android, this is what you get when you get a search company writing an OS instead of a company that's been making OS's for 20+ years...
Bells and whistles are great, but not if your core functionality is farked.
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As much as I like Android, this is what you get when you get a search company writing an OS instead of a company that's been making OS's for 20+ years...
Bells and whistles are great, but not if your core functionality is farked.
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That and if windows tablets that still have a Intel CPUs, that steam store will be a hard app store to beat
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On the whole, I don't think you have the right to complain. The devs are nice enough to share what they do. If you don't like it then make your own rom...
Waiting to see what you can come up with....
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On the whole, I don't think you have the right to complain. The devs are nice enough to share what they do. If you don't like it then make your own rom...
Waiting to see what you can come up with....
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This i totally agree with . All of the tools are open and free to all. Thousands of internet sites books and other media to help.. Not to mention the new mobile development center at MIT...
TO Bad im a Blonde from Kentucky.. Boohooooo i just have to wait and hope .
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This i totally agree with . All of the tools are open and free to all. Thousands of internet sites books and other media to help.. Not to mention the new mobile development center at MIT...
TO Bad im a Blonde from Kentucky.. Boohooooo i just have to wait and hope .
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Oh, we should post a sign. "Don't feed the Trolls".
Noticed how the OP edited his post, to include the 501 after I posted a simple response.
Some people, just show absolutely no appreciation to the hard work people do. We do it, so others can enjoy it.
Is it a sense of accomplishment, yeah, it is. Especially when it works for 95% of the users.
I'm no Dev. I'm a "fry cook". But I understand what Devs go through. Been there, did that.
Some people, will never be satisfied, no matter what you do. It's a pity.
Ought to kill this thread, as really, as the OP showed, it's an insult to all dev's and Modders.
And people wonder why the devs and modders leave xda. Just look at the title that was posted.
The best thing, is to ignore such posts, from such people, as they are just designed to get people into a pissing war, while they sit back and get amusement.
No way!
Without the efforts of many developers we wouldn't have the following:
USB 3G support for the A500
Eye candy boot animations and themes
Lean operating environment by removing uneccesary startup software
Improved GPS response
Improved kernels for stable overclocking
As far as I'm concerned, the Dev contributers are doing a splendid job.
HTC Desire
ROM: MIUI-XJ v2.2.10 (D2EXT X-PART)
Recovery: 4EXT Classic
Acer Iconia A500
ROM: civato-FLEXSTRIKER-R9.5
JustAnotherDrOidUser said:
No way!
Without the efforts of many developers we wouldn't have the following:
USB 3G support for the A500
Eye candy boot animations and themes
Lean operating environment by removing uneccesary startup software
Improved GPS response
Improved kernels for stable overclocking
As far as I'm concerned, the Dev contributers are doing a splendid job.
HTC Desire
ROM: MIUI-XJ v2.2.10 (D2EXT X-PART)
Recovery: 4EXT Classic
Acer Iconia A500
ROM: civato-FLEXSTRIKER-R9.5
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This is all very true thank you for an awesome reply
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Moscow Desire said:
Oh, we should post a sign. "Don't feed the Trolls".
Noticed how the OP edited his post, to include the 501 after I posted a simple response.
Some people, just show absolutely no appreciation to the hard work people do. We do it, so others can enjoy it.
Is it a sense of accomplishment, yeah, it is. Especially when it works for 95% of the users.
I'm no Dev. I'm a "fry cook". But I understand what Devs go through. Been there, did that.
Some people, will never be satisfied, no matter what you do. It's a pity.
Ought to kill this thread, as really, as the OP showed, it's an insult to all dev's and Modders.
And people wonder why the devs and modders leave xda. Just look at the title that was posted.
The best thing, is to ignore such posts, from such people, as they are just designed to get people into a pissing war, while they sit back and get amusement.
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No disrespect but your the only one I really see running around here *****ing and complaining. Seriously tge thread is going in the direction it was meant. Im not hassling devs thier talents are amazing in this place. Ive been here for years. Um just not real happy with my product even in the capable hands here. Thats all.
P.S. I did want to come back and update this post for you. Like Ibsaid I have been here for years. I remeber when xda was a lot different when people just ignored stupid comments and there wasnt all this he said she said tolling fad crap adults were adults and children were children. But oh how the waters have muddied even for a few who cook and code. Not all but as the new popular xda saying goes: "you know who you are" ;-)
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erica_renee said:
This i totally agree with . All of the tools are open and free to all. Thousands of internet sites books and other media to help.. Not to mention the new mobile development center at MIT...
TO Bad im a Blonde from Kentucky.. Boohooooo i just have to wait and hope .
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1. The tools aren't all open. They simply aren't. Remember the thor fiasco?
2. No one cares if you're a blonde from Kentucky. Posting about waiting & hoping will do nothing for anyone.
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No disrespect but your the only one I really see running around here *****ing and complaining. Seriously tge thread is going in the direction it was meant. Im not hassling devs thier talents are amazing in this place. Ive been here for years. Um just not real happy with my product even in the capable hands here. Thats all.
P.S. I did want to come back and update this post for you. Like Ibsaid I have been here for years. I remeber when xda was a lot different when people just ignored stupid comments and there wasnt all this he said she said tolling fad crap adults were adults and children were children. But oh how the waters have muddied even for a few who cook and code. Not all but as the new popular xda saying goes: "you know who you are" ;-)
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If you're going to complain about stuff not being done, learn to program, and do it yourself.
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If you're going to complain about stuff not being done, learn to program, and do it yourself.
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Drop the elitist attitude.
Not everyone has the qualities needed to make a programmer, just as not everyone has the qualities to become a successful artist; some people simply are better wired for it than others. Not to mention actual real-life issues.
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Drop the elitist attitude.
Not everyone has the qualities needed to make a programmer, just as not everyone has the qualities to become a successful artist; some people simply are better wired for it than others. Not to mention actual real-life issues.
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True, but if you are going to make a thread titled "development for my tablet sucks", you should be ready to ****ing drop some command line ninja skills.
It seems like the op was meaning to say "development seems to have stalled", but inflammatory language is inflammatory...
(ps, I am all sorts of drunk (woot woot switfkey autocorrection) and the useless bickering of the A500 forums makes me an angry drunk)
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(ps, I am all sorts of drunk (woot woot switfkey autocorrection) and the useless bickering of the A500 forums makes me an angry drunk)
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Heh. Mind if I join you? Got a bottle of vodka and I'm bored out of my skull, getting drunk sounds like a rather good idea!
Hi. Introduce me. Im an apple fanboy since 2004, and i owned everything apple produced from mac to iDevices.
Been using iphone all my life until the 4s. It's a great phone but lacking bigger screen.
So i decided to buy a galaxy note because im amazed by the big screen and high resolution of the display.
From my first day use, i regretted buying an android device because my galaxy note seemed lagging even doing something simple like scrolling a website.
Then enter the xda forum and i heard only good things about rooting and installing ics stunner.
It took me 2 days to learn about it and i finnaly managed to installed it on my brand new note.
Boy i couldn't be happier. This rom makes android much smoother, though iphone 4s is a bit smoother but u wouldn't mind since the small screen of iphone makes it unpleasant to use.
Lucky i already got the ipad 3 to play games on it because devs seem to make games on app store alot, much much more than in google's appstore, so i don't need a phone to play games anymore.
That's why i switched to android, oh the openness is amazing, you can set default apps for some tasks, share everything so easy to fb, twitter, whatsapp, etc etc, customization. Good lord where have i been all my life.
Thanks for reading my experience.
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Hi. Introduce me. Im an apple fanboy since 2004, and i owned everything apple produced from mac to iDevices.
Been using iphone all my life until the 4s. It's a great phone but lacking bigger screen.
So i decided to buy a galaxy note because im amazed by the big screen and high resolution of the display.
From my first day use, i regretted buying an android device because my galaxy note seemed lagging even doing something simple like scrolling a website.
Then enter the xda forum and i heard only good things about rooting and installing ics stunner.
It took me 2 days to learn about it and i finnaly managed to installed it on my brand new note.
Boy i couldn't be happier. This rom makes android much smoother, though iphone 4s is a bit smoother but u wouldn't mind since the small screen of iphone makes it unpleasant to use.
Lucky i already got the ipad 3 to play games on it because devs seem to make games on app store alot, much much more than in google's appstore, so i don't need a phone to play games anymore.
That's why i switched to android, oh the openness is amazing, you can set default apps for some tasks, share everything so easy to fb, twitter, whatsapp, etc etc, customization. Good lord where have i been all my life.
Thanks for reading my experience.
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welcome ;D
At the moment i have galaxy note and had ipod touch 4g ( sold one week ago) i didnt like ios 5.1 because it had a lot of limitations, for example i even couldnt made battery percentage without jailbreak and etc. Thats why i have sold ipod because of too limited operating system. With my first android device i thought damn android is so difficult but after some months it become for me the best OS ;D just need some time to get used with android ;D
Yeah Android isn't quite as smooth as iOS yet, but you get a lot more functionality/openness in return. I should warn you that all (I think) ICS ROMs use leaked kernels which are known to have a risk of bricking, especially when wiping/flashing. And probably when handling large files as well. Look up Entropy512's posts for more info.
I flashed the DAFUQ kernel with PC Odin after hearing about this. Still using Stunner but now more safely. It's kinda buggy now, though, but still beats going back to Gingerbread in my book.
Well, besides the other benefits of the switch, you can now tell your apple friends ( I would be one, and say this too) that you have the only retina display device with a wacom tablet digitizer under it.
Welcome to the Android family, adichandra! Nice to see you here & I wish you a lot of fun with your note!
Like the preposter has already mentioned: the leaked LP kernels are not that safe atm and may harm your emmc...I LOVED stunner as well (it is a HELL of a rom^^), but due to some bad experiences by other users I switched back to Gingerbread (just for the next few weeks, I´m sure that the next leak/official ICS is in the pipeline).
A more secure alternative may be XplodWilDs CM9, which is here on the board as well. But if you want to switch, read the OP carefully --> you should go back to GB before flashing!
He is right, Xplod CM9 is more safe than the leaked version. Im using it now and ver satisfy with it!
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Once official ICS comes out with a an official kernel, things will really start to ramp up here as far as development. But even on Gingerbread, my phone is almost as fluid as an iPhone 4S, since I keep very minimal apps on the phone. I only download an app if I can't do the same function on the browser and I don't really game on my phone. So far, the Note has been the best phone I have owned and I can't wait to see what Samsung has in store for the Galaxy S III since that technology is what we'll see in the Note 2.
Welcome to android family.
I guess im the only 1 that doesnt think ios is extremly smooth. Wife ip4s lags like any newer android device.
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thanks for the warm welcome.
about those who experienced a bad luck with their note getting bricked, is it suddenly getting bricked when im using it or is it bricking when im flashing to the stunner's upcoming updates?.
let's say if im sticking with the current rom and not doing any flashing at all, is it going to brick my device too when let's say while im browsing?
im getting scared by reading this thread...
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intruda119 said:
Welcome to android family.
I guess im the only 1 that doesnt think ios is extremly smooth. Wife ip4s lags like any newer android device.
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yeh for me ios lagged too, ipod touch 4g= iphone 4 just without call and sms functions, got laggs while playing nba 2k12, surfing the net with 4-6 tabs and scrolling at settings
Huge congratulations on taking the step to freedom and thinking for yourself! I know it can be scary when you're used to Apple deciding everything for you and all of a sudden you can choose for yourself, but that's a part of growing up.
I'm certain you won't regret it!
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adichandra said:
thanks for the warm welcome.
about those who experienced a bad luck with their note getting bricked, is it suddenly getting bricked when im using it or is it bricking when im flashing to the stunner's upcoming updates?.
let's say if im sticking with the current rom and not doing any flashing at all, is it going to brick my device too when let's say while im browsing?
im getting scared by reading this thread...
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Hehe, don´t be too scared mate This is the point: It may happen that the kernel is messing with your device when you start to move big files OR when wiping...just search for posts from Entropy512 (who seems to be the most eloquent guy when it comes to this topic ) or matius44 (who summed up Entropy512´s posts quite often as well).
If you take a closer look to the stunner & imilka threads (etc), it is obvious that there are MANY ICS (repack) user who are NOT suffering of any kind of emmc damage (yet?). So the probability seems quite low to brick your device. But there is a propability, there have been a bunch of people e.g. last week, who had to handle the fact that there device is dead.
So in my case: I didn´t want to take the risk to mess up my 600$ device, for this reason I switched back a few days ago.
It is everyones own choice - this is a developer forum and it will always be connected with risks to flash ROMs For me, the risk seems to be higher with the repack stuff, so I will wait.
EDIT & OT: yeey, 400 posts counting^^
adichandra said:
thanks for the warm welcome.
about those who experienced a bad luck with their note getting bricked, is it suddenly getting bricked when im using it or is it bricking when im flashing to the stunner's upcoming updates?.
let's say if im sticking with the current rom and not doing any flashing at all, is it going to brick my device too when let's say while im browsing?
im getting scared by reading this thread...
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Nope! It wont brick suddenly when your not doing any flashing. It will only brick if you flash it wrong or as they said not proper flashing. Just follow each guide in flashing from the thread starter and there wont be any problem.
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Hehe, don´t be too scared mate This is the point: It may happen that the kernel is messing with your device when you start to move big files OR when wiping...just search for posts from Entropy512 (who seems to be the most eloquent guy when it comes to this topic ) or matius44 (who summed up Entropy512´s posts quite often as well).
If you take a closer look to the stunner & imilka threads (etc), it is obvious that there are MANY ICS (repack) user who are NOT suffering of any kind of emmc damage (yet?). So the probability seems quite low to brick your device. But there is a propability, there have been a bunch of people e.g. last week, who had to handle the fact that there device is dead.
So in my case: I didn´t want to take the risk to mess up my 600$ device, for this reason I switched back a few days ago.
It is everyones own choice - this is a developer forum and it will always be connected with risks to flash ROMs For me, the risk seems to be higher with the repack stuff, so I will wait.
EDIT & OT: yeey, 400 posts counting^^
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hmmm strange im using more then two weeks criskelo lp6 rom, wiping cache/dalvik every day, moving +2gb files every day and so far no problem ;D maybe it is just rumours.
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hmmm strange im using more then two weeks criskelo lp6 rom, wiping cache/dalvik every day, moving +2gb files every day and so far no problem ;D maybe it is just rumours.
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Than just enjoy it and honor your luck! (and it really just MAY happen, not that it happens everytime!) I´m a bit jealous, ´cause i really do miss my stunner...but as i said...
thanks for the explanation. i decided to keep stunner running in my note because i only have good things about this rom.
hopefully badluck brian won't come any closer to my note.
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hmmm strange im using more then two weeks criskelo lp6 rom, wiping cache/dalvik every day, moving +2gb files every day and so far no problem ;D maybe it is just rumours.
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Think of it as smoking. You may or may not get cancer but i think everyone agrees your taking a risk
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Think of it as smoking. You may or may not get cancer but i think everyone agrees your taking a risk
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hmmm if think like this then what about if your phone got stolen or broken? you never know what could happen ;D
i had a 16 gb 3g (jailbroken) and didnt have nearly as much freedom i have with android (been using it for 2 years now)
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edga my note comes shortly is criskelos rom worth a go?
ps will be rooted an cmw on after 15-29 mins
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Yup. Flashing from the repack (more specifically, doing any form of a wipe from a repack - and flashing this wipes /system first) may only hardbrick a small percentage of users - 1%? 3%? 10%? - We don't know.
What we do know is:
1) Some users can flash all they want without hardbricking - but you don't know if you're in this category until you've found out the hard way that you're not
2) Some users can flash/wipe a few times but eventually will hardbrick. Just because you flashed once without bricking doesn't mean flash #2 isn't going to kill you
3) Some users, like xplodwild, will just hardbrick the first time they attempt to wipe or flash anything from a leak repack recovery
I'm going to talk to the moderators about giving infractions to anyone else who says they flashed safely from an existing repack - because that misleads other users into thinking they're safe too which is NOT TRUE. See items 1 and 2 above.
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A lot of people will tell you how they flashed fine etc etc but you never know if that next system wipe will go through..
So you have to ask yourself "Do I feel lucky?"
Hi,
I'm a big Samsung fan, i've had the S1, S2 and currently own the S3..at the moment i'm running cyanogenmod 10.1 and after a few initial misgivings about it's lack of features compared to a sammy touchwiz rom ... i'm really starting to like the aosp feel and look..
Now after a year of owning the S3 i'm getting a bit restless and feel like a change.. the nexus 4 is the phone that's intriguing me most. So I have a really simple question, is it a sensible move to the 4 from the S3.
Carl.
Yes only if non removable battery or SD card is not a problem which I personally don't mind and the camera won't to better but around the same and no lte then I'd say go for it , it does give you a bang for your buck especially with development I use P.A which is awesome
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The main pros of the Nexus 4 that I keep listing anytime I tell people about it are the following:
1. Price. $350 is pretty much half the price of any other competitor to the Nexus 4
2. Pure Android, updated directly from Google. As soon as a new version of Android is released, it's on the Nexus. Google develops Android FOR this device.
3. Design. Glass front and back, it's a solid phone. Looks sleek.
Now, newly-released phones do have slightly better hardware. But we're getting to the point of diminishing returns. We're packing so much hardware into these devices, you'll hard-pressed to find software that actually makes use of it. I think the only debate you should be having is buy the Nexus 4 now, or wait until the next Nexus comes out, possible during the holidays. That isn't to say this phone won't still be a solid phone then, but I can understand if some people wait to buy updated versions.
To answer your question: yes. It is definitely worth it. At $350, it's fiscally irresponsible NOT to buy a Nexus 4. Right now I'm paying $30/mo for a tablet plan on AT&T with 3gb of data. Having weird and crazy options like that don't seem to happen with other phones. I feel like the Nexus 4 is YOUR phone, not 80% your phone, 20% the manufacturer's.
Spoiler alert: I might be a little biased, but c'mon. It's a sweet phone.
No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
Definitely get the phone. It's worth every penny. Root it and put Franco kernel and you're good for the entire day.
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Before I read everyone else's post I want to say I came from the gs3 had gs2. I would do it again in a heart beat. However it's not a super huge upgrade like it was from gs1 to gs2 or even gs2 to gs3. The software is where I enjoyed the phone the most.
I loved my screen on my gs2 and gs3 on this I wasn't impressed until I got used to it. Now I feel samsung screens have to much pop in the colors
Hope this made sense
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is the phone worth it, hell yeah for 350$ you can't get better. Is it worth it for you? You'll have to answer that question yourself.
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No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
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Assholes like you are why XDA has a bad reputation with newcomers. People come here FOR research, prick.
Go for it and join in all the fun on XDA! Cool
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Says the guy with one thanks.....
I called no one names But you, on the other hand broke XDA rules. Reported.
/waaaaa
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Lol dat butthurt
Well the guy is trying to get perspective from people who actually own the device and use it day to day which is much different than reading any review from someone who might be biased in one way or another.
Maybe the op could have used a different subject or maybe asked what everyone thinks of the phone from actual owners.
Just something to consider before jumping to conclusions
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Not in love with the Nexus 4. Have had it since January when it replaced my SGS2 (T989). I really appreciated not having to search for the least buggy ROM, as the stock was nice but at this point I'm dissatisfied with the Camera, which seems to produce mostly mediocre pictures (sadly, and since my other devices and cameras produce better ones, I'm afraid it's not (usually) operator error); the screen, whose color palate I don't love and whose auto-brightness is chronically dim (which can of course be mostly remedied by not using auto-brightness, though wish I could), and lastly the touch sensitivity, which I may try to adress now—I understand there are fixes. Nevertheless, I'm gonna see what T-Mobile will sell me a SGS4 for...
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No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
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Perhaps next time if you've got nothing constructive to say, you should just refrain from posting...
great
tweaked said:
No, don't buy a N4. You obviously can't be bothered to research and figure out if this phone is worth it or not. You definitely aren't going to do any other research when you attempt to Root, Rom, and Mod......Buy a different phone and clutter their forums.:silly:
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Cheers for the help.. i've read dozens of reviews, spec lists and browsed many forums to get a decent idea of the phone, I thought i'd ask people who may have previously had the Galaxy line of phones and XDA seemed a logical place to do so..
I've been a registered member of this site for probably 2 years and never created a thread before, simply because of the very hostile and condescending attitude of some of the members and BINGO, you did yourself proud mate..
Carl.
N4 is awesome bro get one.i never regretted not buying a note2
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Why make a thread about is it worth it? :thumbdown::thumbdown:
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Hello all Note 10.1 2014 owners.
I am starting this thread to see who is interested in a Hyperdrive ROM.
If you are not familiar, it is a ROM developed by sbreen94 on predominantly Samsung Galaxy devices. Probably one of the best and most popular ROMs out there. Check a few of the Galaxy development threads and you will understand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4600715
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4600715
He has been developing for the old Note 10.1 for a while, he does not own a Note 10.1 2014. However, he said if we can put a 2014 edition in his hands he would be more than willing to create the ROM.
Is there any interest in this? I figure a 16gb refurb would do which can be had for around $350.
haspampel and hashcheck have developed two great KK ROMS so far, but it seems development for this tablet is otherwise lacking. This would be a superb addition.
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UPDATE 5/23/2014
Everything looks to be in place. Nabour's costs have been covered, see her post if interested in the details. Any further donations should be directed to sbreen as additional people see fit.
We will now patiently await, and I stress patiently . Any additional insights could be posted in this thread while sbreen is developing but let's not be bothering him. To quote Fat Sam from the movie Fletch "When it comes, it comes"
Thanks again to all who made this happen!
Depends... we would get him for wi-fi only version or lte?
:good: If users around here are interested in this, i would be happy to make and support a rom for you!
We really need a custom rom for P601 badly, I know that would be a big hit here now, as currently there is only 1 that is not upgraded that often.
Ran Hyperdrive ROM on my ATT S3 for a long time before exploring KitKat Rom options. Lots of options and customization. I'd definitely be interested if a ROM was developed.
Definately interested! SM-P600 here...
After how Scrolser took our money and ran I don't really trust donating to anyone anymore.
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Loving it on my Verizon gs4, would be a good incentive towards rooting this device.
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After how Scrolser took our money and ran I don't really trust donating to anyone anymore.
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Would love to see this ROM for the P600.....although I have to agree with Blend.
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After how Scrolser took our money and ran I don't really trust donating to anyone anymore.
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You must not know me or my roms then
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You must not know me or my roms then
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I'm sure you're a nice person and all and well respected here on XDA. Problem is... so was Scrolser and he left us out to dry. A well respected Dev and he got our money, bought the tablet and ended up selling it later while promising to still update our note's (which hasn't happened BTW). Yeah... that left a pretty sour taste in my mouth.
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Guys, sbreen94 is the real deal. He currently supports 4 or 5 devices. He just doesn't get a new one and forgets about the old ones like some devs do. I will start off the bidding at $20.00 for the wifi model (P600). This would be a most excellent addition to the Note 10.1 2014 community.
¿Will-it-Blend? said:
I'm sure you're a nice person and all and well respected here on XDA. Problem is... so was Scrolser and he left us out to dry. A well respected Dev and he got our money, bought the tablet and ended up selling it later while promising to still update our note's (which hasn't happened BTW). Yeah... that left a pretty sour taste in my mouth.
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I can definitely see how that would upset you and I think it would me too. In the end this is up to you guys and whether or not you guys would like a killer rom for your device. I'll continue to support the phones that I currently own either way
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I can definitely see how that would upset you and I think it would me too. In the end this is up to you guys and whether or not you guys would like a killer rom for your device. I'll continue to support the phones that I currently own either way
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Guys, I would totally support Mr. Breen. I have used Hyperdrive on my Galaxy Note 3 and it is an amazing rom. He is an experienced, top-rated developer.
Let me know how this works - do we just start sending donations, or is it more organized than that.
Barbara
Yes!
I would love to see this rom available for this device!
P600
I would be ok to trow some bucks in for p605, but i doubt there will be anyone else, since we are so few. (i think?)
You can count on 10$ donation from me if you decide to start working on it.
Donations etc.
I figured it would be for the P600 since that is what a majority of people probably own, and it is the easier of the three to be had for a lower price.
I don't know how to organize donations. Perhaps we should do it bounty style with people posting what they can contribute, I'll keep track.
Put me down for $40.
sbreen is legit. He has always well supported all of his roms for all of his devices. I think you'll have an impossible time finding anyone to say anything negative about his work.
Let's keep this ball rollin' :laugh:
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I figured it would be for the P600 since that is what a majority of people probably own, and it is the easier of the three to be had for a lower price.
I don't know how to organize donations. Perhaps we should do it bounty style with people posting what they can contribute, I'll keep track.
Put me down for $40.
sbreen is legit. He has always well supported all of his roms for all of his devices. I think you'll have an impossible time finding anyone to say anything negative about his work.
Let's keep this ball rollin' :laugh:
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I'll go $40.00 as well....
Thanks for the support guys. I would say let's go for the Wi-Fi model which is the P600 I'm assuming. I think posting the amount you are able to contribute in this thread is good so we can keep track. I should probably be able to chip in like 50$ of my own funds toward it
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