Disclaimer: if anything bad happened to your phone using the method provided by me, I will take no responsibility! Use at your own risk.
This post is meant to provide an alternative way (newbies may find it easier) to root your phone.
If you want to flash custom rom and kernel, you will need to
1st, root your device;
2nd, flash cwm recovery.
Both of the jobs can be done by apps. This method is for normal noobs like me, you do not need to connect your phone to PC. You could always use other ways such as Odin to perform the same jobs, it's your choice.
Then, step by step here:
1) install framaroot app from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276
2) open the app, press aragorn, reboot, done
now, you have your device rooted, then, go on to install cwm recovery
3) install rom manager app from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager
4) open the app, flash cwm recovery ( it will download the recovery and flash it ), reboot, done.
now, you have installed the cwm recovery and you are ready to enjoy your rooted phone, for example, flash custom roms :good:
remarks: If some app needed you to have busybox installed in your device, go download busybox from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.busybox.installer and install the busybox using the app.
All done by 3 simple free apps.
of course, when something bad happened to your phone, you may still need to use Odin to recover your phone, so, you are suggested to learn how to use Odin as well.
:good:
anguslaw said:
Please ignore those misleading post, the app-framaroot is the real easiest way to root our phone.(for noobs like me )
Just install the app on your stock rom, open it, press aragorn, reboot and it's done. Easy?
Works on both i9300 and i9305.
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Roots it but you can't flash custom roms. So you're right, it is misleading. Most people who want "root" really want to flash custom ROMs and Kernels. It's not really "root" that they need for this but the process in those "misleading post" actually gives you the ability to do this where as framaroot doesn't.
Agree for most users the jobs not done and they then have to post how do install recovery .
Much prefer a one stop root and recovery .
jje
rootSU said:
Roots it but you can't flash custom roms. So you're right, it is misleading. Most people who want "root" really want to flash custom ROMs and Kernels. It's not really "root" that they need for this but the process in those "misleading post" actually gives you the ability to do this where as framaroot doesn't.
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Oh, I forgot to post the easy way to install cwm recovery here, maybe i have posted in another post. Actually, root is the first steps, the second step is to install cwm recovery. This is easy too.
After you use my method to root your device, reboot, install the rom manager ( from cwm in playstore), you could install the cwm using that app, so easy.
You don't need to use your pc or odin to do both jobs( root and install cwm recovery). This is what most people wanted and it is so easy that you cannot break your device at any chance.
Of cos , if you want busy box, you could download an app called busybox installer, install busy box with that app, so easy again.
So now we .....
1) root with framaroot
2) install recovery
3) install busy box
.........which will take us back to doh, re, me............cf root that does it all in one!
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjobdArtiA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
slaphead20 said:
So now we .....
1) root with framaroot
2) install recovery
3) install busy box
.........which will take us back to doh, re, me............cf root that does it all in one!
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjobdArtiA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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hahaha, nice video.
However, we have to admit that install app to perform those jobs are much safer and easier for people. They do not have to read through the posts to learn how to use odin and still fear that they will brick the phone or ended in boot loop.
anguslaw said:
hahaha, nice video.
However, we have to admit that install app to perform those jobs are much safer and easier for people. They do not have to read through the posts to learn how to use odin and still fear that they will brick the phone or ended in boot loop.
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That's where I disagree..........we have enough problems with people not reading and not understanding............so to my mind, simple, quick fixes really are counter productive
anguslaw said:
hahaha, nice video.
However, we have to admit that install app to perform those jobs are much safer and easier for people. They do not have to read through the posts to learn how to use odin and still fear that they will brick the phone or ended in boot loop.
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Usual cause of a boot-loop or brick is not odin .
After root few use odin .
Standard boot loop error is user not bothering to read the faqs and guides .
jje
I think this is the easiest way. This is how I do it.
Framaroot
Then flash recovery using mobile Odin. Every time and it works like a charm. No computer needed.
However it kinda worries me how easy Framaroot roots the device!!
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I'd definitely recommend mobile Odin over ROM manager. It's not the safest app out there.
I'd still prefer to use a pc though because you're going to need it no matter what if it screws up for some reason. The guides we have here are tried and tested and engineered in such a way that a little bit of knowledge is acquired along the way. There's a lot of reading to be done but it IS essential.
As mentioned above, read the faqs. I feel that "quick and easy" is detrimental to our cause.... and its people like myself, slappy and jje who have to help people doing damage because they don't understand
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rootSU said:
I'd definitely recommend mobile Odin over ROM manager. It's not the safest app out there.
I'd still prefer to use a pc though because you're going to need it no matter what if it screws up for some reason. The guides we have here are tried and tested and engineered in such a way that a little bit of knowledge is acquired along the way. There's a lot of reading to be done but it IS essential.
As mentioned above, read the faqs. I feel that "quick and easy" is detrimental to our cause.... and its people like myself, slappy and jje who have to help people doing damage because they don't understand
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Quick and easy method that I suggested will do no damage to the phones.
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good work!
thx!
anguslaw said:
Quick and easy method that I suggested will do no damage to the phones.
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Modifying /system ALWAYS carries a risk. if I were you, I'd put a disclaimer in post 1.
To have root, you need to modify /system 3 times. That's 3
1) You need to force an exploit to give you access to /system
2) You need to insert the su binary to /system/bin
3) You need the Super user apk forced into /system/app
...so please do not say "Will do not damage" because you do not know that.
Then, this only gives you root. If you want to do anything more than root, you still have to flash recovery. Flashing recovery modifies the /recovery partition. This also carries RISK.
Please be aware, you did not discover this method. It's not new, many people knew about it already. It's not as safe as you think
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See, all done by 3 simple free apps. why bother using odin, tools, etc, etc.
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Oh COME ON! Why use Odin?
3 different, "simple" apps and 1 file to flash
versus
1 PC programme and a file to flash....
thanks
Hi thanks for your nice detailed tutorial.
I appreciate sharing your knowledge.
Cheers
anguslaw said:
Please ignore those misleading post, the app-framaroot is the real easiest way to root our phone.(for noobs like me )
Just install the app on your stock rom, open it, press aragorn, reboot and it's done. Easy?
Works on both i9300 and i9305.
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UPDATED detailed procdures:
Ok, to make it clear, if you want to flash custom rom and kernel, you will need to 1st, root your device, 2nd, flash cwm recovery. Both of the jobs can be done by apps. This method is for normal noobs like me, you don't need to use odin and you don't need to connect your phone to PC.
Of course , you could always use a complicated way to perform the same jobs, it's your choice.
Then, step by step here:
1) install framaroot app from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276
2) open the app, press aragorn, reboot, done
now, you have your device rooted, then, go on to install cwm recovery
3) install rom manager app from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager
4) open the app, flash cwm recovery ( it will download the recovery and flash it ), reboot, done.
now, you have installed the cwm recovery and you are ready to enjoy your rooted phone, for example, flash custom roms :good:
remarks: If some app needed you to have busybox installed in your device, go download busybox from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.busybox.installer and install the busybox using the app.
See, all done by 3 simple free apps. why bother using odin, tools, etc, etc.
:good:
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@rootSU, I really have no intention to create fight here. My intention is simple, which is to provide a simple way to root for newbies.
I refer to the thread that provides the app rather then just providing the link to download the file so that people will know what they are downloading.
For newbies, I truely believe that installing app to perform the job is the easiest and safe way.
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I agree that it may be the "easiest and safest way"....however, it still leaves new people with no working knowledge of Odin, and no gain in knowledge as well........to my mind, and many others, that is a one step fast forward, 2 steps back, as soon as problems occur, you have a panicking user, with no knowledge of how to flash back to stock, posting for help here, there and everywhere.
XDA always has been and always will be a place of learning and information sharing.
I'm not here to disagree with your thread, or to show any disrespect.....I'm just making this post for people coming here looking for the elusive "quick and simple " solution.....in the hope they may read it and take time to consider if they really want to learn from the ground up or wether they want to end up in a situation where they lack basic knowledge and have to swallow their pride and ask for the the basics to be explained.....even though they are already rooted and running "da neatest Rom eva"
Yea, let people choose what they want.
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anguslaw said:
@rootSU, I really have no intention to create fight here. My intention is simple, which is to provide a simple way to root for newbies.
I refer to the thread that provides the app rather then just providing the link to download the file so that people will know what they are downloading.
For newbies, I truely believe that installing app to perform the job is the easiest and safe way.
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I'm not fighting with you. I'm disagreeing with you.
Is it easy? Sure
Does it help users understand root? No. Quite the opposite
Is it Safe? No safer than any other method
Please try not to be too precious about your guide. We are being constructive. Its us who have to fix peoples phones. When they have no knowledge of what they have even done, its unfair for us to have to first teach them the basics they need to understand just so we can help them.
Some people just aren't meant to root but this guide gives those people the ability to root anyway and that my friend, is far more dangerous than any application or process
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rootSU said:
I'm not fighting with you. I'm disagreeing with you.
Is it easy? Sure
Does it help users understand root? No. Quite the opposite
Is it Safe? No safer than any other method
Please try not to be too precious about your guide. We are being constructive. Its us who have to fix peoples phones. When they have no knowledge of what they have even done, its unfair for us to have to first teach them the basics they need to understand just so we can help them.
Some people just aren't meant to root but this guide gives those people the ability to root anyway and that my friend, is far more dangerous than any application or process
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Its ok you do not agree with me. But it is every individual s own will to use what method to do the job . And its their will to learn or not learn.
If they use my method and break their phone and ask for help, you can help him or not help him. If you don't help him, there is always others willing to help.
Trail and error is how human being learn. There is no "correct" way to learn.
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Yes but you claim this is the "REAL" way in the title. You also belittle the more official methods as "complicated" in post 1.
I'm going to stop replying now. Every time I post, this thread bumps.
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Related
Since im rooted, cant i just download clockwork from the market and flash clockwork that way? Or do I have to use odin?
I'm a total noob, but I believe you need to flash with odin. I haven't heard of being able to install clockwork via market. Again, I'm a noob. My sequence involved rooting first, then clockwork.
BTW, flashing with odin is simple as long as you click PDA and NEVER PHONE.
EDIT: I believe in following what works in this instance, it is odin.
Ya i see what your sayin, im a noob to this phone but not rooting in general. I had an EVO before this and i never needed a computer to do anything on that phone. I mean I thought this phone was more "open" then others...
BAleR said:
Ya i see what your sayin, im a noob to this phone but not rooting in general. I had an EVO before this and i never needed a computer to do anything on that phone. I mean I thought this phone was more "open" then others...
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The difference is in source code availability and development. If you never used adb commands that was because someone wrote something that does it for you.
It takes 30 minutes tops to root, install CWM, deodex, theme, remove bloat, and voodoo.
Nothing to it.
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Daswolven said:
The difference is in source code availability and development. If you never used adb commands that was because someone wrote something that does it for you.
It takes 30 minutes tops to root, install CWM, deodex, theme, remove bloat, and voodoo.
Nothing to it.
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So can i just flash cw from the app?
BAleR said:
So can i just flash cw from the app?
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Yes.
It won't work though.
There are things Here, Here, And Here that you should read very carefully before you try to do anything.
You are asking questions that are already addressed and answered in the stickies on the first page. Once you go through those, if you have questions, PM me and I'll be happy to help.
Unlock Root Tools is a android root tool. Supports the Android 2.1,2.2 and 2.3Easy way to get root access Permissions！
the software can be found at : LINKS REMOVED
Try at your own risk but It worked like a charm for my SGS2,
How to Root Your SGS2:
To Root your phone you will have to download Unlock Roottool from the unlockroot.com. and install
1) Your device must be in USB Debugging mode.
2) If you have not installed Android SDK Driver , install it after installing the tool : Start Menu -> Programs -> Unlock root -> Install Driver
3) Connect your device to your PC, Run UnlockRoot.exe
4) Click “Unlock Root”, Enjoy
I did not test the "unroot" option of this tool yet.
Thanks
So rather than use CFRoot which takes all of two minutes, I run an exe in debug mode from a source that I have absolutely no idea about the credentials of ?
No thanks.
Not the simplest method is it at all .
jje
Errrrrrrr no thanks!
JJEgan said:
Not the simplest method is it at all .
jje
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OK then I will remove the words "easiest and symplest"
No doubt CF-Root is the best and simplest for those who already started using the Odin.
CF Root method :
1) Get into Download mode
2) Open ODIN, select the file
3) Connect phone and select start
4) Done in under 30 secs
Much easier than this "unlockroot" method...
This may not be the easiest way to get root for us.
But for somebody who doesn't know what odin is, Windows user who doesn't even know there is a download and recovery mode on their phones.
Or for someone who doesn't want to mess up with jigs and flash counters.
For them, this could be the easiest way to root and unroot their phones.
That people will find this usefull, others should shut up.
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Silverwolf2 said:
This may not be the easiest way to get root for us.
But for somebody who doesn't know what odin is, Windows user who doesn't even know there is a download and recovery mode on their phones.
Or for someone who doesn't want to mess up with jigs and flash counters.
For them, this could be the easiest way to root and unroot their phones.
That people will find this usefull, others should shut up.
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LOL.Well done mate!i mean even if you haven`t tried yet how do you know what da hell is this?do not comment and please shut up.Also i have rooted my old htc desire with similar method and it took less then 1 min without a hassle.it could be useful for someone.
I know a couple of people who used this on there galaxy S and they've not had any problems.
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People can root their device using any method they want.
When you tell people who have helped many many users unbrick their device to shut up Im guessing you are saying leave it to you to help from now on since you know more than them.
Thanks mate mighty good of you.
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Android is all about alternatives. And this is a very good alternative.
So just cause most of you prefer one method does not make this an invalid choice!
So seriously if you have nothing productive to say, maybe you guys should shut it!
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This actually looks a lot easier than CF root... Reminds me of superoneclick.
I posted this like a month ago and got myself banned for this, it worked for me anyways, doesnt work on ICS though
Elisha said:
So seriously if you have nothing productive to say, maybe you guys should shut it!
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Lmfao
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thank you
thanks for the good link~!
i use the siyah kernel. so actually, i don`t need any tool for rooting my sgs2.
but this tool is good i think.
Don't work on Brazilian's 2.3.6 rom!
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andpantanal said:
Don't work on Brazilian's 2.3.6 rom!
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Hmmm, thanks for information, dont try on 2.3.6
Mine was shipped with 2.3.5 stock
thanks
This project stole code from jcase.
Closed.
1.This is guide How to root galaxy Note (N7000) running on ICS (4.0.3/4.0.4) -Dedicate to Newbies
THIS METHOD IS SEEMS RISKY, AS CWM.ZIP CONTAINS BAD STRING AND CAN DAMAGE DEVICE.
THATS WHY DOWNLOAD LINK IS REMOVED AND VIDEO ALSO NO MORE PUBLIC.
Discussion will be made on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
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2.How to root N7000 Running on GB ROM (rootable)
GB ROMs which are not directly rootable have to first downgrade to rootable ROM
OR can flash pre rooted ROM
further guide and discussion will be here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
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3. How to copy/delete/edit/change permission with Root explorer
Since I'm a newbie at this stuff, just wanted to ask if rooting my Note would erase the data stored in my phone memory?
Also, should i make a backup of all the data incase anything goes bad??
P.S - thanks for the tutorial..
Rooting, doesn't erase anything.
But yes it is always advisable to keep backup of your important data, though you may have limited option to backup on unrooted device. some suggestion
Contact - inbuilt import/export or google sync
Msgs - use SMS restore backup appl
Applications - Non root version of My backup application. though you can backup only app not data of appl like game level, credential etc.
Haha
Classic Music Dr...
Thanks for the suggestions.
One last query. Is it necessary to flash another ROM after rooting the phone? If so, could you please suggest me an easy to use ROM and a tutorial on how to flash it would be really helpful!
P.S - I apologize for being such a newbie but this is the first Android phone I'm using!
aurator said:
Thanks for the suggestions.
One last query. Is it necessary to flash another ROM after rooting the phone? If so, could you please suggest me an easy to use ROM and a tutorial on how to flash it would be really helpful!
P.S - I apologize for being such a newbie but this is the first Android phone I'm using!
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In short - No.
No need to flash another ROM once rooted although it's preference. You can happily root your stock ROM and maintain root access which will allow you greater control and of course the ability to run Root only apps.
If you wanted to try out other ROM's, check out the development section, Most ROM's have a video or step by step walkthrough on how to install..
No need to apologise, and if you've not used it already - here's a great thread that should answer a lot of your questions;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774208
i wanted to see the flashing of the CF root kernel and some mods, i get stuck there :silly:
music is appropriate
rraaka said:
i wanted to see the flashing of the CF root kernel and some mods, i get stuck there :silly:
music is appropriate
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Sure when time permit will do it.
Added to my FAQ section Awesome work yet again Dr.Ketan !!!
PS. The background music is hilarious
Video tutorial adde for
How to use root explorer to copy/delete/change permission for system files
Dr. Nice stuff!! thanks for the continous contribution...:victory:
rraaka said:
i wanted to see the flashing of the CF root kernel and some mods, i get stuck there :silly:
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me too , ALL ROMs, kernel are different, most instruction there are no image or video
btw, its very helpfull Dr...
Sure will try to make video for that too.
BTW,For mod flashing, method is same like rooting ICS (first video), just you have to select your mod zip file in plave of superSU busybox installer.zip
Flash custom rom
Hi,
I followed the steps given in the video and was able to root successfully.
Now, Can i directly flash the custom ROMs (for eg. ICS Stunner 1.6.26 which is an ICS ROM) through CWM?
I read a warning that said flashing custom ROMs on ICS kernels can lead to a hard brick and that we need to flash a safe kernel like Abyss Kernel.
Here is a screenshot of my About Phone.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/564347_10150822751627377_2037790532_n.jpg
Sorry for the Noobish question.
Thanks in advance
thanks
thanks for tutorial
Hi
My new note has stock ics 4.0.3 i don't wish to downgrade just obtain root, what is the process to do this, i was going to watch the video but its no longer public.
many thanks
Why it is not public that is also mentioned.
Just.find.second.link on my signature for detail guide.
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dr.ketan said:
Why it is not public that is also mentioned.
Just.find.second.link on my signature for detail guide.
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Sorry i do apologize, i did read it that bit, and did not think to apply that to the video as well.
let me see if i got this right:
i've dl'd notecore v13 standard
got pc odin
reboot into download mode
start pc odin, click pda, and select above kernel, wait for it to finish
reboot phone
start triangle away - is this safe to use, the warning was quite alarming?
thanks
egarding steps, thats are correct
Triangle.away, i didn't get single report of brick using it.
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dr.ketan said:
egarding steps, thats are correct
Triangle.away, i didn't get single report of brick using it.
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thank you very much, i now feel confident to do this and a little more relaxed
thanks given
Hi all,
I see the android development section has a lot of goodies in there and i have had great experience with custom ROMs on my old Galaxy S1. But for the GN4. Is there any value addition to the stock ROM, in the custom builds so far?. Kindly share your feedback on the custom ROMs that you.
P.S: I haven't yet rooted the device (i know) ... can someone kindly send me the easiest way to do that as well.
Thanks a bunch for your time.
As far as rooting go just download the toolkit from the dev section follow the instructions on that thread.
And with the custom roms read the thread try them out every dev adds there own tweets. You can always go back to a backup
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Personally, I read through the pinned threads and unlocked my bootloader, flashed touch CWM and rooted my phone right after getting it. As for custom ROMs - I don't feel the slightest urge as the rom is imho perfect; although I was a keen flasher before I sold my Galaxy S II.
Custom ROM for N4 are very stable and smooth like stock, maybe even more smoother. More feature like editing nav bar and so on. Happy flashing
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Thanks guys. definitely gona root the device, gona make a nand and try a couple of customs out as well.
ChrisHRocks said:
As far as rooting go just download the toolkit from the dev section follow the instructions on that thread.
And with the custom roms read the thread try them out every dev adds there own tweets. You can always go back to a backup
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Highly advise against doing this. Prefer yarox method do it manually as you'll need to do fast boot and adb commands eventually. Just take the 20-25 minutes and learn how to do it now. It's very easy and they are stickied for a reason.
Toolkits are very dangerous. The shortcut isn't worth it.
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zephiK said:
Highly advise against doing this. Prefer yarox method do it manually as you'll need to do fast boot and adb commands eventually. Just take the 20-25 minutes and learn how to do it now. It's very easy and they are stickied for a reason.
Toolkits are very dangerous. The shortcut isn't worth it.
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Never liked them!! Besides you don't learn anything using toolkits...
yyz71 said:
Never liked them!! Besides you don't learn anything using toolkits...
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Exactly. It's not like you're learning useless crap that you wouldn't use.
In fact for anyone flashing anything on their phone and not knowing a plan b if something goes wrong is scary, then they start panicking and out of no where make a forum thread. Bricked phone??? Uh no man. Anyone bricking a nexus device doesn't deserve one to be honest. It's so hard to brick one because of fast boot factory stock images.
A simple 20-25 minute step by step guide. It pretty much carries you through it and is more important than that lecture you attend every Tuesday that chances are you'd fall asleep because the professor isn't enthusiastic with his studies
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May I suggest using wug's nexus root toolkit. Safe and easy with just clicking your mouse. You will be amaze!
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droidmeup said:
May I suggest using wug's nexus root toolkit. Safe and easy with just clicking your mouse. You will be amaze!
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No. Did you really just say that after what we just said?
It's easy using a toolkit but also very easy to screw up your phone because people using it are clueless and flash whatever links making their phone into a non boot able state.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 is a great read on this topic.
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zephiK said:
No. Did you really just say that after what we just said?
It's easy using a toolkit but also very easy to screw up your phone because people using it are clueless and flash whatever links making their phone into a non boot able state.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 is a great read on this topic.
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But the thing is people can choose whatever method they want to root their phone. Old way using adb or the new step by step on screen instruction toolkit. I choose toolkit to root my n4 just to try it out. I was just amaze how wug's toolkit was so easy as it had on screen instructions every click. I don't see how newbies could brick using wug's toolkit. I don't really care what method people use.
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But the thing is people can choose whatever method they want to root their phone. Old way using adb or the new step by step on screen instruction toolkit. I choose toolkit to root my n4 just to try it out. I was just amaze how wug's toolkit was so easy as it had on screen instructions every click. I don't see how newbies could brick using wug's toolkit. I don't really care what method people use.
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It's not the OLD way whatsoever. It's not newbies bricking their phones using the toolkit. It's what they do AFTERWARDS, go read the Q&A forums. Many of the problems coming out of threads are from users doing things that they don't understand because they lack the basic knowledge of the Android system with ADB & Fastboot (they mention toolkit in OP post). Some people rooted using the toolkit and they don't even know how to flash a flashable zip or even restore their phone back to stock because they want to send it in for a RMA.
Like I said in many threads, two methods,
1) Learn how to get from Point A to Point B by using a map and planning it out
2) Using a toolkit and have it get you from Point A to Point B without knowing how you got there.
Let's see what happens.
1) Since you planned it out and have a map beforehand using a step-by-step guide (its not hard) you can remap yourself on how to get there. What if you went to back half way because you forgot to pick up something at the store? You know how to get there
2) Toolkit... oh im at point B, i want to go to the supermarket at Point A.5, how do I get there? exactly. You don't know, you then proceed to ask questions on how to get there (in this case it would be Q&A forum on how to fix their phone because its not booting up).
By spending 20-25 minutes, people are aware of how fastboot works and how to restore their phone when its in a nonbootable state and not mistakenly say that their phone is bricked. This is XDA developers not XDA shortcuts
No one asked for your opinion on what method people used so I don't care that you don't care either?
Next time you should read the thread I posted before commenting. It has nothing to do with 'old ways' vs 'new ways.' If toolkit is the new way then oh man... we are in deep trouble.
Just like my two cases, he couldn't say it any better.
The people who are using these scripts aren't learning what is actually happening when they press 1 on their keyboard. Boom, their phone is unlocked, su-binaries and cwm recovery installed. Then, they flash a rom without creating a nandroid. What happens if something goes wrong and they didn't place any safety nets to help them? They post a thread saying their phone is bricked. People take time out of their day to help these people out, but since the user doesn't understand what the helper is talking about, they can't fix it.
Just last weekend I spent 30 minutes replying to a PM with step by step instructions how to flash stock images and including links to files and resources. The person replied back. Instead of fixing his phone himself, he said he "claimed his phone as stolen and will be getting sent a new one lol". WTF?! Not only is that morally wrong, it's also insurance fraud. And we wonder why carriers and OEM's are trying as hard as they can to lock down non-nexus phones.
Please, take the time to learn how to get yourself out of a mess before you are in a mess.
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I don't constantly post in threads about "OH DONT USE A TOOLKIT ITS TOO EASY. go old fashion with command prompt" for no reason. I do it with a good reason and no one should ever endorse toolkits for this very reason. Learn how to do it, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know how to fastboot/adb when it's in a step-by-step tutorial. It's not hard to unlock a bootloader on a Nexus device. If it was a device with a difficult unlocking method through a exploit, then yes I would endorse a toolkit but for a Nexus its so easy to unlock.
1. set up ADB (do it once and you're SET for life on that computer.. dont have to do it again).
2. install ADB drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514942
3. boot into bootloader using combo keys
4. command prompt into fastboot -> fastboot oem unlock
5. fastboot flash recovery <whateverthenametherecoveryis>.img
6. DONE.
@zephik
You've inspired me. I don't have my N4 yet but just got my 7 for Christmas. I'm going to pop it back to stock and redo the whole process manually.
I knew I was taking the lazy way out, you have guilted me into doing it properly as you said you learn nothing from a toolkit. Lol
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ChrisHRocks said:
@zephik
You've inspired me. I don't have my N4 yet but just got my 7 for Christmas. I'm going to pop it back to stock and redo the whole process manually.
I knew I was taking the lazy way out, you have guilted me into doing it properly as you said you learn nothing from a toolkit. Lol
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Glad to know that I can do a kind of a change. If you need any further assistance or questions ahead of time, feel free to PM me.
Honestly, I'm not doing it to be a bad guy or to waste people's time. If it wasn't important, then I wouldn't stress how imperative ADB & Fastboot are to ANY device, but particularly towards Nexus devices. Fastboot isn't present in all devices, other devices such as Samsung Galaxy etc etc use Odin (Samsung's Firmware Flasher) which is the same thing but its more GUI friendly but it can still cause bricks and fastboot is easier in my opinion.
Just like what franco said,
Why would something happen? This kernel won't brick anything, a Nexus is pretty unbrickable unless someone is very dumb or simply a hardware bug ****s the device up. If anyone bricks this device or any Nexus I'll award him idiot of the year trophy.
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It is REALLY REALLY difficult to brick a Nexus device, and I'm not surprised that it does happen to people because they use the toolkit and aren't aware of what they're doing. It's like solving a math problem, what's the point in getting spoon fed the answer? Just work it out. Except for Nexus devices, you don't even have to work it out!!! all you do is read a GUIDE that one person spent time on writing up. At least have the decency on reading it. You read it, and you do the step, then proceed until you're at the end. It's not difficult, and you get to know what you're doing it and why you are doing it.
People do things and their phone cant boot up but can access bootloader mode. They don't even know how to fastboot flash and then post a thread in Q&A forum saying their phone is bricked.
And you don't have to redo the 7 process lol. Manually unlocking bootloader is one thing and then knowing how to flash is the easy part.
Even the ghetto guide I posted a couple posts above works for any nexus device.
1. set up ADB environment (google sdk) basically get fastboot binary.. if you want ADB you'll need the adb.exe binary
2. install drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514942
3. bootloader mode
4. fastboot oem unlock
5. unlock the phone on screen using vol keys
6. fastboot flash whatever.img [put in same folder as fastboot.exe]
7. done. you successfully flashed a 3rd-party recovery. now just put a zip file on the sdcard when android starts
8. receovery, wipe factory/dalvik/cache
9. flash rom,gapps(optional depending what rom), kernel (optional)
10. congrats you flashed a rom and kernel.
@zephiK. Thanks for the expert advice. I used Samsung S1 in the past and never used adb, was scared of it. I took your advice. Followed the guide and got rooted, the adb way. I have to admit. It was pretty satisfying to know what i was doing. Thanks again to everyone here.
thanks
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It's not the OLD way whatsoever. It's not newbies bricking their phones using the toolkit. It's what they do AFTERWARDS, go read the Q&A forums. Many of the problems coming out of threads are from users doing things that they don't understand because they lack the basic knowledge of the Android system with ADB & Fastboot (they mention toolkit in OP post). Some people rooted using the toolkit and they don't even know how to flash a flashable zip or even restore their phone back to stock because they want to send it in for a RMA.
Like I said in many threads, two methods,
1) Learn how to get from Point A to Point B by using a map and planning it out
2) Using a toolkit and have it get you from Point A to Point B without knowing how you got there.
Let's see what happens.
1) Since you planned it out and have a map beforehand using a step-by-step guide (its not hard) you can remap yourself on how to get there. What if you went to back half way because you forgot to pick up something at the store? You know how to get there
2) Toolkit... oh im at point B, i want to go to the supermarket at Point A.5, how do I get there? exactly. You don't know, you then proceed to ask questions on how to get there (in this case it would be Q&A forum on how to fix their phone because its not booting up).
By spending 20-25 minutes, people are aware of how fastboot works and how to restore their phone when its in a nonbootable state and not mistakenly say that their phone is bricked. This is XDA developers not XDA shortcuts
No one asked for your opinion on what method people used so I don't care that you don't care either?
Next time you should read the thread I posted before commenting. It has nothing to do with 'old ways' vs 'new ways.' If toolkit is the new way then oh man... we are in deep trouble.
Just like my two cases, he couldn't say it any better.
I don't constantly post in threads about "OH DONT USE A TOOLKIT ITS TOO EASY. go old fashion with command prompt" for no reason. I do it with a good reason and no one should ever endorse toolkits for this very reason. Learn how to do it, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know how to fastboot/adb when it's in a step-by-step tutorial. It's not hard to unlock a bootloader on a Nexus device. If it was a device with a difficult unlocking method through a exploit, then yes I would endorse a toolkit but for a Nexus its so easy to unlock.
1. set up ADB (do it once and you're SET for life on that computer.. dont have to do it again).
2. install ADB drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514942
3. boot into bootloader using combo keys
4. command prompt into fastboot -> fastboot oem unlock
5. fastboot flash recovery <whateverthenametherecoveryis>.img
6. DONE.
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wow. good post. thanks a lot!
Is wallet working on all to Roms? Sorry to butt in this thread..
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@zephiK. Thanks for the expert advice. I used Samsung S1 in the past and never used adb, was scared of it. I took your advice. Followed the guide and got rooted, the adb way. I have to admit. It was pretty satisfying to know what i was doing. Thanks again to everyone here.
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Not a expert advice by any means. Just been around for a long time so I observe the commonalities between all users. I just really dislike it when people say or recommend things when really they don't know anything. Not saying I'm perfect by any means, but people need to stop being so cocky on the forums acting like they know everything. Instead of trying to defend themselves, ask questions on why I feel this way or whatever.
That's what forums are all about right? That's what XDA is all about. Spreading information. Not clicking a button that spoon feeds you something and you don't know how or why it's like that.
If someone gave you a car with one click (toolkit), what's the point in having a car if you can't drive it? (Toolkit) do you expect to click one button and the car drives you from home to where you need to be and back? What happens if it doesn't work? You ask questions on how to do this and th at.
You have to go through the procedure of learning how to use it. If you learn from the beginning (like I said, it's not hard, if it was then it's understandable about a toolkit) then it'll be a breeze. When I first got started, I was a lurker on XDA, I didn't post. All I did was read. I didn't have toolkits, I had to telnet my G1 to obtain root access through a exploit that took 40-55 minutes, one mess up and I would of bricked my phone and i had to do it with my hands, that's a scary thought knowing that you can't go back once you started. People nowadays should be grateful that unlocking bootloaders aren't as difficult anymore but yet people still feel the need to use a toolkit when it already is simple.
wow. good post. thanks a lot!
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I didn't post it. That guy did. Definitely a great read and pretty much what I always believed in when I saw a toolkit. Should be banned from the forums but eh, who am I to call the shots
Is wallet working on all to Roms? Sorry to butt in this thread..
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Yes Google Wallet works on any ROM as well as kernel. It says incompatible because you're rooted but it should work regardless of that text on the top of the app. Flash away!
Edit: May 5, 2009: http://androidandme.com/2009/05/beg...r-rooting-your-android-g1-to-install-cupcake/
August 17, 2009: http://androidandme.com/2009/08/news/how-to-root-a-t-mobile-g1-and-mytouch-3g-android-phone/
First guide one of the first rooting methods. August 17 is sort of one clickish but you still had to do a lot of things to get through it. So as you can see, it's not spoon fed to you, compare that to what you have to do now. Tell me that unlocking the Nexus bootloader is hard after reading all that ... it isn't.
@zephiK Can you link me to where it shows me how to root, and install CWM? Please
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@zephiK Can you link me to where it shows me how to root, and install CWM? Please
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019273
I actually prefer TWRP over CWM. Your preference though.
Both can be found in Android Development Forum.
I want to root my phone, the s4 as listed below. I am new to android but I think I understand how to root it. My concern is that there is no recovery. I am not sure what that means. Does that mean that one cannot unroot or does that mean that if you install a Custom rom that there is no going back? Or, does it mean something else? Thank you.
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I want to root my phone, the s4 as listed below. I am new to android but I think I understand how to root it. My concern is that there is no recovery. I am not sure what that means. Does that mean that one cannot unroot or does that mean that if you install a Custom rom that there is no going back? Or, does it mean something else? Thank you.
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I think you do not understand how to root if there is no recovery. keep researching. you're a long way from safely rooting your phone.
OP, if your S4 is on the MF3 firmware then look around in the general and q&a sections. there's some material there that will point you in the right direction.
in short, if you are on MF3, you can root only (which i advise against for beginners as there currently is no recovery option). cheers
thehoz said:
I want to root my phone, the s4 as listed below. I am new to android but I think I understand how to root it. My concern is that there is no recovery. I am not sure what that means. Does that mean that one cannot unroot or does that mean that if you install a Custom rom that there is no going back? Or, does it mean something else? Thank you.
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Why do you want to root your phone when you don't even understand what it is you want to do?
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Why do you want to root your phone when you don't even understand what it is you want to do?
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My question wasn't "what can I do with root?" I wanted to know if it was possible to "unroot" which apparently it is not yet. I would want to root to be able to get more out of titanium backup and Tasker as well as block ads. But thanks for the help.
And yes, I am on MF3. I had root on the prior os and I had to unroot to get the MF3 update which had features I wanted. I just don't know the proper terms I guess. I don't know what a recovery is. To unroot before, I had the two files I needed to delete. I foget what they are. I am sure you guys know. I used to always have my iOS jailbroken. I didn't need to understand too much about it. I could just follow instructions and jailbreak. It was too easy to unjailbreak.
Last time I rooted, it was easy. The unrooting was nerve-wracking because I couldn't get the update I wanted without it. I've read how to root now... Again I can follow directions. It just wasn't clear that you can't unroot until a recovery is is out there. I thought maybe a recovery was needed if you used a custom rom. I just wanted to use the stock rom and unroot if I wanted to.
Again, I'm not a hacker, just a user that wants more and not a whole lot of time to learn all the in and outs.
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My question wasn't "what can I do with root?" I wanted to know if it was possible to "unroot" which apparently it is not yet. I would want to root to be able to get more out of titanium backup and Tasker as well as block ads. But thanks for the help.
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I suggest you do a little more research. There is a thread with a method to unroot that multiple people have claimed works with MF3. Of course, you never said what firmware you have...and it does make a difference. But honestly, don't take the advice if you think you don't need it and do what you want Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432876
Try it at your own risk.
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I suggest you do a little more research. There is a thread with a method to unroot that multiple people have claimed works with MF3. Of course, you never said what firmware you have...and it does make a difference. But honestly, don't take the advice if you think you don't need it and do what you want Good luck.
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I appreciate the advice to keep looking. I'll try to find the thread you mention.
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I appreciate the advice to keep looking. I'll try to find the thread you mention.
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I edited my post above to include it.
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I edited my post above to include it.
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Thank you very much!
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My question wasn't "what can I do with root?" I wanted to know if it was possible to "unroot" which apparently it is not yet. I would want to root to be able to get more out of titanium backup and Tasker as well as block ads. But thanks for the help.
And yes, I am on MF3. I had root on the prior os and I had to unroot to get the MF3 update which had features I wanted. I just don't know the proper terms I guess. I don't know what a recovery is. To unroot before, I had the two files I needed to delete. I foget what they are. I am sure you guys know. I used to always have my iOS jailbroken. I didn't need to understand too much about it. I could just follow instructions and jailbreak. It was too easy to unjailbreak.
Last time I rooted, it was easy. The unrooting was nerve-wracking because I couldn't get the update I wanted without it. I've read how to root now... Again I can follow directions. It just wasn't clear that you can't unroot until a recovery is is out there. I thought maybe a recovery was needed if you used a custom rom. I just wanted to use the stock rom and unroot if I wanted to.
Again, I'm not a hacker, just a user that wants more and not a whole lot of time to learn all the in and outs.
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You were right, recovery is used to flash custom ROM, back up and restore ROM; but there is no recovery for MF3.
If you just want to use Titanium Backup, adblock then root is enough. And you can unroot.
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