Quick Question - Fascinate General

Since im rooted, cant i just download clockwork from the market and flash clockwork that way? Or do I have to use odin?

I'm a total noob, but I believe you need to flash with odin. I haven't heard of being able to install clockwork via market. Again, I'm a noob. My sequence involved rooting first, then clockwork.
BTW, flashing with odin is simple as long as you click PDA and NEVER PHONE.
EDIT: I believe in following what works in this instance, it is odin.

Ya i see what your sayin, im a noob to this phone but not rooting in general. I had an EVO before this and i never needed a computer to do anything on that phone. I mean I thought this phone was more "open" then others...

BAleR said:
Ya i see what your sayin, im a noob to this phone but not rooting in general. I had an EVO before this and i never needed a computer to do anything on that phone. I mean I thought this phone was more "open" then others...
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The difference is in source code availability and development. If you never used adb commands that was because someone wrote something that does it for you.
It takes 30 minutes tops to root, install CWM, deodex, theme, remove bloat, and voodoo.
Nothing to it.
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Daswolven said:
The difference is in source code availability and development. If you never used adb commands that was because someone wrote something that does it for you.
It takes 30 minutes tops to root, install CWM, deodex, theme, remove bloat, and voodoo.
Nothing to it.
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So can i just flash cw from the app?

BAleR said:
So can i just flash cw from the app?
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Yes.
It won't work though.
There are things Here, Here, And Here that you should read very carefully before you try to do anything.
You are asking questions that are already addressed and answered in the stickies on the first page. Once you go through those, if you have questions, PM me and I'll be happy to help.

Related

Ehh overwhelmed...

So I wanna get cm on my buddies evo. But after half an hour just browsing around I am pretty overwhelmed on obtaining no frills instructions. Can anyone give me a link or guide on the most recent and quickest way to root and install cwm? The wikis useless to me. Too many methods up there and no way of knowing which is the best and most recent method. Thnx in advance doods.
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Use unrevoked to root, flash CM from recovery.
This is good but it would be faster but less informative to use autoroot. There is or was a link to it on the evo wiki page.
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Use unrevoked to root, flash CM from recovery.
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Autoroot isn't nearly as reliable as Unrevoked. I see too many people posting about borked roots because of autoroot. I've used Unrevoked probably 15 times and have not had a single issue. Here's the how-to for Unrevoked.
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Autoroot isn't nearly as reliable as Unrevoked. I see too many people posting about borked roots because of autoroot. I've used Unrevoked probably 15 times and have not had a single issue. Here's the how-to for Unrevoked.
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I agree unrevoked has worked for me twice with the evo and twice with the hero when I had it. one evo for me one for my dad,one hero for me, one for my friend. Also, cw can b installed through recovery but I recommend flashing amon ra.
Google for rooting for dummies. It's on a different forum but its a complete step by step guide to rooting. And installing tons and kernels and more. It's the First link
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for me.. on my 003 evo.. built in Oct.
this is what I used.
root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
i personally stay away from ROM managers and clockwork... and I have not had any issues.... on my Hero and EVO....
Well my goal is to flash a senseless rom with the fps uncapped. But seeing that there's no unified simple surefire way to even root I think im gonna pass. Everything seems convoluted. Anything out there like 1 click root on the epic? You know all in one root, recovery, etc? Sorry I own an epic and from what im seeing its true what they say. Samsuck makes things easy to flash.
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ok...
gald we could help.
I've used auto root 5 times with no issues. I'm not sure what issues others have had buy nine here so far. I'd give it a try. Off course the PC I did it on I used evolution prior and maybe it was because I had all the driver installed. Idk. Good luck and God speed my friend.
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RushAOZ said:
Well my goal is to flash a senseless rom with the fps uncapped. But seeing that there's no unified simple surefire way to even root I think im gonna pass. Everything seems convoluted. Anything out there like 1 click root on the epic? You know all in one root, recovery, etc? Sorry I own an epic and from what im seeing its true what they say. Samsuck makes things easy to flash.
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Unrevoked is a one click root. It will root and install clockwork in one shot. Check the link I posted.
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Unrevoked is a one click root. It will root and install clockwork in one shot. Check the link I posted.
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Didn't realize it was one click root now, that's good to here. Last time I used it I had to command line half the hack.
EVO(CM7•4G)=110°iPWNπ
Lol thanks man. Im doing a bit of research before I jump in. Can't wait to see what this thing can do when released from its shackles.
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on unrevoked can you just do everything via phone? (click on it and let it do it's thing and bam it's rooted?)
r916 said:
on unrevoked can you just do everything via phone? (click on it and let it do it's thing and bam it's rooted?)
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No, it needs to be run from a PC but it's pretty damn easy.
I would suggest once rooted, grab RA Recovery Manager replace Clockwork Mod with it. You get more control over backups with it, plus the backup/restore process seems faster with it.
Download link, plus instructions on how to flash it are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
xfullmetal17 said:
I would suggest once rooted, grab RA Recovery Manager replace Clockwork Mod with it. You get more control over backups with it, plus the backup/restore process seems faster with it.
Download link, plus instructions on how to flash it are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
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+1. RA is the better and more reliable of the two.
The one time I used Autoroot, my phone hung on recovery.
The first time I used Unrevoked, it failed. I used it again, but this time in Linux and it worked fine.
Every phone is different, but the overwhelming consensus is to use Unrevoked
Dan330 said:
for me.. on my 003 evo.. built in Oct.
this is what I used.
root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
i personally stay away from ROM managers and clockwork... and I have not had any issues.... on my Hero and EVO....
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I agree with you, use unrevoked and then flash Amon and stay away from Rom Manager......
Sent from my EVO rocking Evervolv Gingerbread
I guess everyphone is different.
I had to use rom manager to load up cm7 nighty. For whatever reason goings into recovery manually and selecting the rom it just hung there for 20 mins. Where as it worked fine with rim manager.
Damn I wish we all had the same experiences with this thing.
playya said:
I agree with you, use unrevoked and then flash Amon and stay away from Rom Manager......
Sent from my EVO rocking Evervolv Gingerbread
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EVO(CM7•4G)=110°iPWNπ

Help Need Lots Of Help!!!!

ok so my samsung vubrant i was installing a rom called nero gingerbread edition i had installed it already but i wanted it to be my permenant one so then i put it in recovery and i put install zip then i clicked nero then i had to approve and i did and then all these commands popped out then it said looking for upadate.zip which i have because i never deleted it and it just froze its been like that like for an hour and i need help really bad because i do not want my phone to mess up please just answer pleeaaaaaaaase
Sound like you just need to Odin back to stock and try again
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i did not use odin to root my phone i just added the update package but can i use odin still if i did not use it to root my phone
Yes u can Odin back to stock and then flash cwm and your good to go
jadenrodriguez said:
i did not use odin to root my phone i just added the update package but can i use odin still if i did not use it to root my phone
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jadenrodriguez said:
i did not use odin to root my phone i just added the update package but can i use odin still if i did not use it to root my phone
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The toobox works real well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954509
Jaden, Odin back to stock (look in the Noob guide by S14274N) it has everything you need, Once you are in stock , then root the phone (use superoneclick, it is easy), then download Rom manager, then you will go back into download hit update packages and it will be rooted, From there you can flash any rom you want. Your phone is ok, you need just to go into Download and Odin back to stock first.
You probably can just restart your phone, don't think any changes were even made...long press the power button until it restarts.
Hahaha no offense and not trying to troll but guys please ODIN before any flash of rom, kernel, mod,theme, anything. That way you dont flip out when **** goes wrong. I did,so do many other flashers, and so should you pr anybody else. Also, do a backup with recovery before flashing....
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I really hate to be that guy, but please use periods or any other form of punctuation. I came into the thread wanting to offer advise and about a line into the post I realized it was all one big sentence. I gave up.
not to be a d*ck but why do you have a donate to me button?
emonero said:
not to be a d*ck but why do you have a donate to me button?
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I have seen that a lot with ppl with low posts. I guess it doesn't hurt to try lol
Odin to stock before every new ROM flash is overkill...
Sdobron said:
Odin to stock before every new ROM flash is overkill...
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Yeah its not really necessary, I think the last time I used ODIN was before flashing the Nero beta. It will keep things fresh and mostly issue free, but if you know what you're doing you really shouldn't have to do it for every flash.

[i9003] Frustrated First Root

Starting off, I'm probably posting in the wrong section. Excuse my forum etiquette, but I need help with this because I'm insanely frustrated and in pain (Decided to learn how to exploit the android OS while recovering from my surgery).
So, if you've read past that first part and are still willing to help, thank you.
Moderators: If you absolutely need to move this post, please move it to a section where it will actually get attention and I can get an answer. Thanks.
Anyway, the breakdown of my problem is this;
I wanted to root my new day old Sprint CMDA Nexus S, I've never rooted anything android, and if anything the most I've done with a droid OS is installed it on my old iphone 2g.
So I did some googling and first thing to come up was this guide:
nexusshacks(dotcom)/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-root-nexus-s/
Now, usually I would do a bit more research, but because of the lack of blood in my body I'm doing dumb things, making bad decisions, whatever.
So obviously this guide doesn't work, even a quick skim of the comments shows that, I try to follow this guide-
I followed step "fastboot flash boot rootboot.img" then tried to reboot. It freezes at the google boot logo. This is where I start getting a bit nervous because I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.
So I think "Well, if I jump over to someone elses tutorial and do that it should overwrite any "root"ing data I've tried to put into the device.
So I jump over to this:
androidadvices(dotcom)/root-sprint-nexus-gingerbread-235-update/3/
It has me install PDANet and it's frozen since on the installing PDAnet to your phone.
I just want to get my Nexus S back to original factory default so I can start fresh from there without a terrible guide.
Can someone please help me get there?
Thanks.
tl;dr:
Bad guide soft bricked my phone and I want to restore it to factory defaults
agnl said:
Starting off, I'm probably posting in the wrong section. Excuse my forum etiquette, but I need help with this because I'm insanely frustrated and in pain (Decided to learn how to exploit the android OS while recovering from my surgery).
So, if you've read past that first part and are still willing to help, thank you.
Moderators: If you absolutely need to move this post, please move it to a section where it will actually get attention and I can get an answer. Thanks.
Anyway, the breakdown of my problem is this;
I wanted to root my new day old Sprint CMDA Nexus S, I've never rooted anything android, and if anything the most I've done with a droid OS is installed it on my old iphone 2g.
So I did some googling and first thing to come up was this guide:
nexusshacks(dotcom)/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-root-nexus-s/
Now, usually I would do a bit more research, but because of the lack of blood in my body I'm doing dumb things, making bad decisions, whatever.
So obviously this guide doesn't work, even a quick skim of the comments shows that, I try to follow this guide-
I followed step "fastboot flash boot rootboot.img" then tried to reboot. It freezes at the google boot logo. This is where I start getting a bit nervous because I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.
So I think "Well, if I jump over to someone elses tutorial and do that it should overwrite any "root"ing data I've tried to put into the device.
So I jump over to this:
androidadvices(dotcom)/root-sprint-nexus-gingerbread-235-update/3/
It has me install PDANet and it's frozen since on the installing PDAnet to your phone.
I just want to get my Nexus S back to original factory default so I can start fresh from there without a terrible guide.
Can someone please help me get there?
Thanks.
tl;dr:
Bad guide soft bricked my phone and I want to restore it to factory defaults
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Ok I can see you need help but I am inclined to warn you instead. Stop. If you cannot figure out how to root the easiest phone to root then you shouldn't be messing around with your phone. You will end up screwing something up, won't know how to fix it, and come crying here for help. Do yourself some research before you go and ruin your phone.
Yes you posted in the wrong place.
There is a thread in this forum on how to root the nexus s 4g. Rooting is model specific. The T-Mobile Nexus s is different from the sprint, att, Rodgers, o2 etc.
Please please do some more research!
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Thanks for a reply, and I understand I dug a hole.
Now I need to get out of said hole, so if you had any directions of how to dig myself out, that'd be great.
if you can get into fastboot then you are still cool, if not you're gonna have to odin it. I dont actually know where the tar files are, Micheal posted it up but i think they deleted the thread. You should have came to xda first,we have one clicks.
actually rooting is the same across the board. same steps same everything... in fact the one click root version 1 would work on any and all of them, version 2 branches out a bit further due to that it installs cwm.
anyways boot into fastboot, download stock fastboot images from petes thread found here http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip and flash them all in fastboot.
youll be back on stock grj22 but youll at least be booting.. from there follow a guide for rooting this phone that has you flash cwm (not a prerooted kernel). or be lazy and use my one click root
You sir are a class act. We need a ton more guys like you here at XDA
shabbypenguin said:
actually rooting is the same across the board. same steps same everything... in fact the one click root version 1 would work on any and all of them, version 2 branches out a bit further due to that it installs cwm.
anyways boot into fastboot, download stock fastboot images from petes thread found here http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip and flash them all in fastboot.
youll be back on stock grj22 but youll at least be booting.. from there follow a guide for rooting this phone that has you flash cwm (not a prerooted kernel). or be lazy and use my one click root
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mikeyinid said:
You sir are a class act. We need a ton more guys like you here at XDA
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+1
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mikeyinid said:
You sir are a class act. We need a ton more guys like you here at XDA
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lol you give me way too much credit mikey but thanks for teh vote of confidence

Root i9300 &i9305 and install cwm recovery with apps

Disclaimer: if anything bad happened to your phone using the method provided by me, I will take no responsibility! Use at your own risk.
This post is meant to provide an alternative way (newbies may find it easier) to root your phone.
If you want to flash custom rom and kernel, you will need to
1st, root your device;
2nd, flash cwm recovery.
Both of the jobs can be done by apps. This method is for normal noobs like me, you do not need to connect your phone to PC. You could always use other ways such as Odin to perform the same jobs, it's your choice.
Then, step by step here:
1) install framaroot app from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276
2) open the app, press aragorn, reboot, done
now, you have your device rooted, then, go on to install cwm recovery
3) install rom manager app from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager
4) open the app, flash cwm recovery ( it will download the recovery and flash it ), reboot, done.
now, you have installed the cwm recovery and you are ready to enjoy your rooted phone, for example, flash custom roms :good:
remarks: If some app needed you to have busybox installed in your device, go download busybox from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.busybox.installer and install the busybox using the app.
All done by 3 simple free apps.
of course, when something bad happened to your phone, you may still need to use Odin to recover your phone, so, you are suggested to learn how to use Odin as well.
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anguslaw said:
Please ignore those misleading post, the app-framaroot is the real easiest way to root our phone.(for noobs like me )
Just install the app on your stock rom, open it, press aragorn, reboot and it's done. Easy?
Works on both i9300 and i9305.
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Roots it but you can't flash custom roms. So you're right, it is misleading. Most people who want "root" really want to flash custom ROMs and Kernels. It's not really "root" that they need for this but the process in those "misleading post" actually gives you the ability to do this where as framaroot doesn't.
Agree for most users the jobs not done and they then have to post how do install recovery .
Much prefer a one stop root and recovery .
jje
rootSU said:
Roots it but you can't flash custom roms. So you're right, it is misleading. Most people who want "root" really want to flash custom ROMs and Kernels. It's not really "root" that they need for this but the process in those "misleading post" actually gives you the ability to do this where as framaroot doesn't.
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Oh, I forgot to post the easy way to install cwm recovery here, maybe i have posted in another post. Actually, root is the first steps, the second step is to install cwm recovery. This is easy too.
After you use my method to root your device, reboot, install the rom manager ( from cwm in playstore), you could install the cwm using that app, so easy.
You don't need to use your pc or odin to do both jobs( root and install cwm recovery). This is what most people wanted and it is so easy that you cannot break your device at any chance.
Of cos , if you want busy box, you could download an app called busybox installer, install busy box with that app, so easy again.
So now we .....
1) root with framaroot
2) install recovery
3) install busy box
.........which will take us back to doh, re, me............cf root that does it all in one!
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjobdArtiA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
slaphead20 said:
So now we .....
1) root with framaroot
2) install recovery
3) install busy box
.........which will take us back to doh, re, me............cf root that does it all in one!
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjobdArtiA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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hahaha, nice video.
However, we have to admit that install app to perform those jobs are much safer and easier for people. They do not have to read through the posts to learn how to use odin and still fear that they will brick the phone or ended in boot loop.
anguslaw said:
hahaha, nice video.
However, we have to admit that install app to perform those jobs are much safer and easier for people. They do not have to read through the posts to learn how to use odin and still fear that they will brick the phone or ended in boot loop.
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That's where I disagree..........we have enough problems with people not reading and not understanding............so to my mind, simple, quick fixes really are counter productive
anguslaw said:
hahaha, nice video.
However, we have to admit that install app to perform those jobs are much safer and easier for people. They do not have to read through the posts to learn how to use odin and still fear that they will brick the phone or ended in boot loop.
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Usual cause of a boot-loop or brick is not odin .
After root few use odin .
Standard boot loop error is user not bothering to read the faqs and guides .
jje
I think this is the easiest way. This is how I do it.
Framaroot
Then flash recovery using mobile Odin. Every time and it works like a charm. No computer needed.
However it kinda worries me how easy Framaroot roots the device!!
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I'd definitely recommend mobile Odin over ROM manager. It's not the safest app out there.
I'd still prefer to use a pc though because you're going to need it no matter what if it screws up for some reason. The guides we have here are tried and tested and engineered in such a way that a little bit of knowledge is acquired along the way. There's a lot of reading to be done but it IS essential.
As mentioned above, read the faqs. I feel that "quick and easy" is detrimental to our cause.... and its people like myself, slappy and jje who have to help people doing damage because they don't understand
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rootSU said:
I'd definitely recommend mobile Odin over ROM manager. It's not the safest app out there.
I'd still prefer to use a pc though because you're going to need it no matter what if it screws up for some reason. The guides we have here are tried and tested and engineered in such a way that a little bit of knowledge is acquired along the way. There's a lot of reading to be done but it IS essential.
As mentioned above, read the faqs. I feel that "quick and easy" is detrimental to our cause.... and its people like myself, slappy and jje who have to help people doing damage because they don't understand
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Quick and easy method that I suggested will do no damage to the phones.
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good work!
thx!
anguslaw said:
Quick and easy method that I suggested will do no damage to the phones.
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Modifying /system ALWAYS carries a risk. if I were you, I'd put a disclaimer in post 1.
To have root, you need to modify /system 3 times. That's 3
1) You need to force an exploit to give you access to /system
2) You need to insert the su binary to /system/bin
3) You need the Super user apk forced into /system/app
...so please do not say "Will do not damage" because you do not know that.
Then, this only gives you root. If you want to do anything more than root, you still have to flash recovery. Flashing recovery modifies the /recovery partition. This also carries RISK.
Please be aware, you did not discover this method. It's not new, many people knew about it already. It's not as safe as you think
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See, all done by 3 simple free apps. why bother using odin, tools, etc, etc.
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Oh COME ON! Why use Odin?
3 different, "simple" apps and 1 file to flash
versus
1 PC programme and a file to flash....
thanks
Hi thanks for your nice detailed tutorial.
I appreciate sharing your knowledge.
Cheers
anguslaw said:
Please ignore those misleading post, the app-framaroot is the real easiest way to root our phone.(for noobs like me )
Just install the app on your stock rom, open it, press aragorn, reboot and it's done. Easy?
Works on both i9300 and i9305.
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UPDATED detailed procdures:
Ok, to make it clear, if you want to flash custom rom and kernel, you will need to 1st, root your device, 2nd, flash cwm recovery. Both of the jobs can be done by apps. This method is for normal noobs like me, you don't need to use odin and you don't need to connect your phone to PC.
Of course , you could always use a complicated way to perform the same jobs, it's your choice.
Then, step by step here:
1) install framaroot app from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276
2) open the app, press aragorn, reboot, done
now, you have your device rooted, then, go on to install cwm recovery
3) install rom manager app from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager
4) open the app, flash cwm recovery ( it will download the recovery and flash it ), reboot, done.
now, you have installed the cwm recovery and you are ready to enjoy your rooted phone, for example, flash custom roms :good:
remarks: If some app needed you to have busybox installed in your device, go download busybox from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.busybox.installer and install the busybox using the app.
See, all done by 3 simple free apps. why bother using odin, tools, etc, etc.
:good:
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@rootSU, I really have no intention to create fight here. My intention is simple, which is to provide a simple way to root for newbies.
I refer to the thread that provides the app rather then just providing the link to download the file so that people will know what they are downloading.
For newbies, I truely believe that installing app to perform the job is the easiest and safe way.
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I agree that it may be the "easiest and safest way"....however, it still leaves new people with no working knowledge of Odin, and no gain in knowledge as well........to my mind, and many others, that is a one step fast forward, 2 steps back, as soon as problems occur, you have a panicking user, with no knowledge of how to flash back to stock, posting for help here, there and everywhere.
XDA always has been and always will be a place of learning and information sharing.
I'm not here to disagree with your thread, or to show any disrespect.....I'm just making this post for people coming here looking for the elusive "quick and simple " solution.....in the hope they may read it and take time to consider if they really want to learn from the ground up or wether they want to end up in a situation where they lack basic knowledge and have to swallow their pride and ask for the the basics to be explained.....even though they are already rooted and running "da neatest Rom eva"
Yea, let people choose what they want.
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anguslaw said:
@rootSU, I really have no intention to create fight here. My intention is simple, which is to provide a simple way to root for newbies.
I refer to the thread that provides the app rather then just providing the link to download the file so that people will know what they are downloading.
For newbies, I truely believe that installing app to perform the job is the easiest and safe way.
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I'm not fighting with you. I'm disagreeing with you.
Is it easy? Sure
Does it help users understand root? No. Quite the opposite
Is it Safe? No safer than any other method
Please try not to be too precious about your guide. We are being constructive. Its us who have to fix peoples phones. When they have no knowledge of what they have even done, its unfair for us to have to first teach them the basics they need to understand just so we can help them.
Some people just aren't meant to root but this guide gives those people the ability to root anyway and that my friend, is far more dangerous than any application or process
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rootSU said:
I'm not fighting with you. I'm disagreeing with you.
Is it easy? Sure
Does it help users understand root? No. Quite the opposite
Is it Safe? No safer than any other method
Please try not to be too precious about your guide. We are being constructive. Its us who have to fix peoples phones. When they have no knowledge of what they have even done, its unfair for us to have to first teach them the basics they need to understand just so we can help them.
Some people just aren't meant to root but this guide gives those people the ability to root anyway and that my friend, is far more dangerous than any application or process
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Its ok you do not agree with me. But it is every individual s own will to use what method to do the job . And its their will to learn or not learn.
If they use my method and break their phone and ask for help, you can help him or not help him. If you don't help him, there is always others willing to help.
Trail and error is how human being learn. There is no "correct" way to learn.
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Yes but you claim this is the "REAL" way in the title. You also belittle the more official methods as "complicated" in post 1.
I'm going to stop replying now. Every time I post, this thread bumps.
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I want to root my phone, the s4 as listed below. I am new to android but I think I understand how to root it. My concern is that there is no recovery. I am not sure what that means. Does that mean that one cannot unroot or does that mean that if you install a Custom rom that there is no going back? Or, does it mean something else? Thank you.
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thehoz said:
I want to root my phone, the s4 as listed below. I am new to android but I think I understand how to root it. My concern is that there is no recovery. I am not sure what that means. Does that mean that one cannot unroot or does that mean that if you install a Custom rom that there is no going back? Or, does it mean something else? Thank you.
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I think you do not understand how to root if there is no recovery. keep researching. you're a long way from safely rooting your phone.
OP, if your S4 is on the MF3 firmware then look around in the general and q&a sections. there's some material there that will point you in the right direction.
in short, if you are on MF3, you can root only (which i advise against for beginners as there currently is no recovery option). cheers
thehoz said:
I want to root my phone, the s4 as listed below. I am new to android but I think I understand how to root it. My concern is that there is no recovery. I am not sure what that means. Does that mean that one cannot unroot or does that mean that if you install a Custom rom that there is no going back? Or, does it mean something else? Thank you.
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Why do you want to root your phone when you don't even understand what it is you want to do?
scott14719 said:
Why do you want to root your phone when you don't even understand what it is you want to do?
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My question wasn't "what can I do with root?" I wanted to know if it was possible to "unroot" which apparently it is not yet. I would want to root to be able to get more out of titanium backup and Tasker as well as block ads. But thanks for the help.
And yes, I am on MF3. I had root on the prior os and I had to unroot to get the MF3 update which had features I wanted. I just don't know the proper terms I guess. I don't know what a recovery is. To unroot before, I had the two files I needed to delete. I foget what they are. I am sure you guys know. I used to always have my iOS jailbroken. I didn't need to understand too much about it. I could just follow instructions and jailbreak. It was too easy to unjailbreak.
Last time I rooted, it was easy. The unrooting was nerve-wracking because I couldn't get the update I wanted without it. I've read how to root now... Again I can follow directions. It just wasn't clear that you can't unroot until a recovery is is out there. I thought maybe a recovery was needed if you used a custom rom. I just wanted to use the stock rom and unroot if I wanted to.
Again, I'm not a hacker, just a user that wants more and not a whole lot of time to learn all the in and outs.
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thehoz said:
My question wasn't "what can I do with root?" I wanted to know if it was possible to "unroot" which apparently it is not yet. I would want to root to be able to get more out of titanium backup and Tasker as well as block ads. But thanks for the help.
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I suggest you do a little more research. There is a thread with a method to unroot that multiple people have claimed works with MF3. Of course, you never said what firmware you have...and it does make a difference. But honestly, don't take the advice if you think you don't need it and do what you want Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432876
Try it at your own risk.
scott14719 said:
I suggest you do a little more research. There is a thread with a method to unroot that multiple people have claimed works with MF3. Of course, you never said what firmware you have...and it does make a difference. But honestly, don't take the advice if you think you don't need it and do what you want Good luck.
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I appreciate the advice to keep looking. I'll try to find the thread you mention.
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thehoz said:
I appreciate the advice to keep looking. I'll try to find the thread you mention.
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I edited my post above to include it.
scott14719 said:
I edited my post above to include it.
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Thank you very much!
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thehoz said:
My question wasn't "what can I do with root?" I wanted to know if it was possible to "unroot" which apparently it is not yet. I would want to root to be able to get more out of titanium backup and Tasker as well as block ads. But thanks for the help.
And yes, I am on MF3. I had root on the prior os and I had to unroot to get the MF3 update which had features I wanted. I just don't know the proper terms I guess. I don't know what a recovery is. To unroot before, I had the two files I needed to delete. I foget what they are. I am sure you guys know. I used to always have my iOS jailbroken. I didn't need to understand too much about it. I could just follow instructions and jailbreak. It was too easy to unjailbreak.
Last time I rooted, it was easy. The unrooting was nerve-wracking because I couldn't get the update I wanted without it. I've read how to root now... Again I can follow directions. It just wasn't clear that you can't unroot until a recovery is is out there. I thought maybe a recovery was needed if you used a custom rom. I just wanted to use the stock rom and unroot if I wanted to.
Again, I'm not a hacker, just a user that wants more and not a whole lot of time to learn all the in and outs.
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You were right, recovery is used to flash custom ROM, back up and restore ROM; but there is no recovery for MF3.
If you just want to use Titanium Backup, adblock then root is enough. And you can unroot.
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