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Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
anirudh412 said:
Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
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Wrong section you should post in the question/answers section.
Anyway to answer your question Qualcomm is pretty much open with their processors and I don't believe there would be any problems building kernels and porting roms.
This is going to be locked / moved.
Nexus devices get CM10 very fast as you only need too add Cyanogenmod source merges and compile it to the Nexus 4 AOSP source and its good to go.
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
anirudh412 said:
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
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It could of gone in either but I think it best suits the q&a section because you are specifically asking a question and you want an answer in return.
Wrong section, ib4tl
Edit: Also, just to put in something useful, this phone WILL be improved, if there are ANY software issues. This is the phone that will have the most dev support in years, with it's low price. In addition, CM isn't "ported", per say, it is built from source.
anirudh412 said:
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
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I asked a mod to move it.
anirudh412 said:
Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
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Since its a nexus device, the source tree is already in aosp so custom ROMs like cm10, aokp, etc will appear almost instantly. No need to do any major hacks get stuff fully working like other phones.. Same with kernels, the source will be available immediately, so there's no waiting for the new kernel sources (*COUGH COUGH * HTC)
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I think molesarecoming is planning to bring ParanoidAndroid over to the Nexus 4
I opened same toppic in S3 & S2 General Forum also in here make support.
Hi there friends. I have n7000 Galaxy Note like everyone in that forum. Last year i bought that phablet that were flagship device they gived updates but now?
Maybe Galaxy s3 & N7100 Note 2 phone owners are happy for their updated phones. But next year things will be different many people gived too much money for their phones like us but next year same problem they will say in here. Thats also for you also for us.
Push samsung spam their pages.
They are not giving answers Huawei giving more support more answers than samsung for their past devices.
Lets be together
So your message is: spam Samsung pages?
Interesting concept...
So... Huawei are good at giving updates huh?, hmmm.. Actualy i was eyeing on ascend mate.
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I think we have nothing to loose.
yes we have nothing to loose if 1000 person send message samsung and about updates we can change something. tryyunus istanbuldan sevgilerle
and also for huawei i bought ideos x5 aka u8800 we spammed their pages and then we taked updates maybe not too good update but we arciheved some way.
Oh, please stop it. XDA ist not the place to call for a spam war.
There are much more useful things you could do for the Note community here.
thaidai my friend here is community i know that. If we wont make that type of conversation what open source mean xda? We saw good potencial @ i9000 and HTC HD2. We have good developers owned Galaxy Phones. But Sammy is not relasing source code and proper documentation for our phones and phablets. And many users not making anything i mean that my friend we are community for make more usefull our devices. We must be together i m saying about to be together you are saying stop that **** maybe i said spam but i mean sending emails, sending tweets or whatever. No one will lose anything for sending one email or tweeting thats only making difference and waking up manufactures in their sleep
maybe you know about that but look : http://www.xda-developers.com/android/broadcom-releases-egl-drivers-for-samsung-galaxy-y/
Everybody wants more support for their devices isnt it?
Peace
ThaiDai said:
Oh, please stop it. XDA ist not the place to call for a spam war.
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+1
they want to do business, so they will bring.
We alreadyvwill be enjoying 3 major releases on our note what else do you want from samsung???
GB>ICS>JB>>>near future the custom KLP...
Android phones are only supported with the updates till 18 months. Then no more updates. I hope in the past, in nokia times people didnt get any updates... the phone only has what it had when it comes out of the box.
We should be thanking both samsung for futuristic hardware and google for the polished updates.
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ThaiDai said:
Oh, please stop it. XDA ist not the place to call for a spam war.
There are much more useful things you could do for the Note community here.
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This.
Read this post --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36080843&postcount=2210
Then grow up. Spamming Samsung will do nothing but get you ignored.
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By the idea of @codeworkx and @skiflyer and maybe others.. here we go!
i take the lead deciding that in a month all of us will spam samsung's twitter / FB / mail.
I'm giving a month so this grow up and more and more people join!!!!!!!!
Please lets do it! note the data in your calendar, fridge, toilet paper... but don't forget it!
Good luck
Honestly, I think it's useless and too late. They don't care of a 2 year phone.
By the way, wish you good luck and success. I quit the Sammie community since my s2 hit the floor few minutes ago. Nexus, here am I.
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Honestly, I think it's useless and too late. They don't ca
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trying will not harm u... if each one of us snd a tweet and post something on their facebook page... it will have some impact since those places are public
IMO
Sure. If you can prevent only one customer to buy their ****s, that will be a small victory.:good: but don't expect the sources. I don't know if you are aware of the full story between Sammie and CM devs but quite everything has been made to get these sources and what we finally got is the devs have flown away from Samsung devices...
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Sure. If you can prevent only one customer to buy their ****s, that will be a small victory.:good: but don't expect the sources. I don't know if you are aware of the full story between Sammie and CM devs but quite everything has been made to get these sources and what we finally got is the devs have flown away from Samsung devices...
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i know some of it...
what i know is that codeworkx stated that we may have a chance if a large mass of people spam and show that they are unhappy
This was months ago... After this codeworx message, we started to flood their social medias, we've got source promise for end of 2012, we've got pure crap and definitive break between devs and Samsung.
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Kaiserbenn said:
This was months ago... After this codeworx message, we started to flood their social medias, we've got source promise for end of 2012, we've got pure crap and definitive break between devs and Samsung.
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did knew about that..
well... mods-> please delete this thread
Edit: people are joining... Let it roll
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This was months ago... After this codeworx message, we started to flood their social medias, we've got source promise for end of 2012, we've got pure crap and definitive break between devs and Samsung.
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and therefore we have to give up? look. what did samsung as they found out that thousands of people resetted their custom binary count with the USB jig? right, the built a new bootloader (a year ago, for gingerbread) - therefore: if enough people do something (either good or bad), they will react.
this has to be really big, that over 100.000 of people try it. we are on android, android is linux, linux is open source and we are samsung's customers. they just have to publish that damn code, nothing more.
but if just some cry, nothing will happen. i'm quite active on XDA, so why didn't i read anything of this "flooding" months ago?
let's make another try. then we can at least say that we tried quite much.
choose a date, and spread it all over the xda forums.
Could you provide all twitter, fb and g+ samsung accounts?
yes we shouldn't give up on this i am sooo in +1
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and therefore we have to give up? look. what did samsung as they found out that thousands of people resetted their custom binary count with the USB jig? right, the built a new bootloader (a year ago, for gingerbread) - therefore: if enough people do something (either good or bad), they will react.
this has to be really big, that over 100.000 of people try it. we are on android, android is linux, linux is open source and we are samsung's customers. they just have to publish that damn code, nothing more.
but if just some cry, nothing will happen. i'm quite active on XDA, so why didn't i read anything of this "flooding" months ago?
let's make another try. then we can at least say that we tried quite much.
choose a date, and spread it all over the xda forums.
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They published the kernel sources... But not the closed driver ones...
They were topics on our fight against samsung in all the exynos device forum, s2, s3... "Push Samsung to release source code"
BTW, I hope you will succeed.:good:
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They published the kernel sources... But not the closed driver ones...
They were topics on our fight against samsung in all the exynos device forum, s2, s3... "Push Samsung to release source code"
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i know. i just want that many people animate even more people, to reanimate this project. the first try just shows us that we didn't do that much to bring sammy to their knees.
Bruaca said:
Could you provide all twitter, fb and g+ samsung accounts?
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Hell yeah! I will search the links so that in this day we all spam them
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yes we shouldn't give up on this i am sooo in +1
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choose a date, and spread it all over the xda forums.
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Does somebody now the top people pn xda? They.could make an artocle to xda news or even a little video to help spread!
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so far we are only 4 here maybe this should become a stickey as a cause
Twitter
Accounts:
SamsungUK
SamsungBrasil
SamsungExynos
SamsungMobile
Hashtags:
#galaxys4
#Exynos
More to come...
Samsung was like "yeah they will cry,beg and spam for it once and then forget about it and move on"
I think we should prove them wrong and just try the whole thing once again!
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Guys, you can count on me.As someone said , we have to share this thread to : S3, Note 1, Note 2, Some tablets. We have to show , that community is something !
This is PM wich i sent to Portal Writer
Hey!
At first, I'd like to sorry for wrong ( incorrect?) title. I came from Samsung Galaxy S2 Forum ( GTI9100 ), and we got a little request. Since few days, we're trying to wake up S2 (S3 , Note Family and whole Exynos CPU 4, 5 in near future if this request is going to work ) community beacuse of no source code.As you may know, Samsung promised us Source Codee over 6/9 months ago, but still no sight of cooperation. We allready started ( again...) spaming Samsung on social medias like FB , Twitter, G+, but for now it's like 5/10 guys wich care about that.After i write that message , I want to talk with people from other Exynos devices.So , could You write an article about this case , or just share these links
LINK1 LINK2
Thanks in name of cumunity and myself for any help!
I have also sent PM on Fb to pocketnow
Well im not getting Samsung at my next upgrade for sure....
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jr866gooner said:
Well im not getting Samsung at my next upgrade for sure....
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im selling my s2 in an hour and getting a nexus 4...
but i will still help u with this!
loved my journey with my s2 since january 2013
Can we make a worldwide Petion to have the sources of the I9500 ?
Good idea we should do it
But I don't know if we can
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Not sure if we will be able to make enough noise, but for sure we won't if we don't try, so I am in
¡¡So say we all!! from Battlestar GT-I9500
I am whit you.I haw i9505 but I love i9500 thx
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Exynos didn't listen on the s3...
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join
support your idea :good:
Hey at least we can try! I am definitely in.
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Im in
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So where do we start?
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People have tried that loads of times with Exynos 4. It's pointless.
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Samsung didn't care about the S2 petition, they didn't care about the S3 petition. What makes you think they'll care now? They have their billions of dollars, their millions of continuous buyers not caring the least what's inside their Samsungs.
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Samsung didn't care about the S2 petition, they didn't care about the S3 petition. What makes you think they'll care now? They have their billions of dollars, their millions of continuous buyers not caring the least what's inside their Samsungs.
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Tell me about it...they can try... but I didnt think samsung will listen... ive sign many petitions but none of it works
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what is the purpose of having sources code? what have devs already had nowadays (in case i9500)? i see theres a lot of custom rom for i9500.
just asking
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I suggest you guys dampen down the enthusiasm for this reason.............This exact same scenario was played out for the s3, it caused huge amounts of friction, had senior moderators crawling all over the thread and eventually it got locked anyway.......reason?.............it was damaging relationships between XDA and Samsung due to some extremely distasteful spamming of Samsung sites.
You are dealing with an Asian culture that values respect and manners far more than most European countries.....and many people forgot that.
Also the number of people that care about source code is minimal compared to the general sales figures, so a flea bite from a few developers really won't make an impression.
If you wanted development you should have bought the Snapdragon......simple research would have shown you that....(yes,I appreciate you have to have exynos in some countries....such is life)
This is just a bit of food for thought from prior experience....... and to hopefully help try and avoid the repeat of what has happened in the past which resulted in several infractions,a lot of bad feeling and general carnage.
Ps. Don't shoot the messenger
MeThinks Samsung is going the iPhone way in keeping the phone at its STOCK best. They do not want anyone tinkering with the phone, hence they are not releasing the Sources.
The reason is best known to Samsung and seeing the futile efforts in S2 & S3, we dunno if it will bear fruitful results.
If you wanna get everything ready then get I9505/I9505G and pretend to be a cool developer by exercising in compiling. You can toss icons and pictures to make your own "unique" CM or AOSP
If you wanna get something to mess with and be a real developer - buy I9500 and make CM/AOSP through good old hacking like it was with SGS2 and SGS3.
I remember time of Windows Mobile where enthusiasts couldn't even think about source code. Some leaked datasheets were the best additions for hacking. IDAPro and Hex Editors were best friends. Today, if you have no source code then it's full stop.
Theshawty i've read your reply before. You totally misunderstood what i've said. I fully respect to team hacksung and to what they did. They refused to explore Octa SoC and it's their decision. But the original idea behind device hacking remains the same - if you are interesting to make something new - then you will try anyway.
Compiling AOSP which already works on I9505 - not interesting and boring - everyone can do this.
sorg said:
If you wanna get everything ready then get I9505/I9505G and pretend to be a cool developer by exercising in compiling. You can toss icons and pictures to make your own "unique" CM or AOSP
If you wanna get something to mess with and be a real developer - buy I9500 and make CM/AOSP through good old hacking like it was with SGS2 and SGS3.
I remember time of Windows Mobile where enthusiasts couldn't even think about source code. Some leaked datasheets were the best additions for hacking. IDAPro and Hex Editors were best friends. Today, if you have no source code then it's full stop.
Theshawty i've read your reply before. You totally misunderstood what i've said. I fully respect to team hacksung and to what they did. They refused to explore Octa SoC and it's their decision. But the original idea behind device hacking remains the same - if you are interesting to make something new - then you will try anyway.
Compiling AOSP which already works on I9505 - not interesting and boring - everyone can do this.
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+1, oh dear WM... very closed source..
sorry, android newbie here.
how can samsung not release the sources? isn't it obligated by GPL?
haksancan said:
sorry, android newbie here.
how can samsung not release the sources? isn't it obligated by GPL?
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Only the kernel is. They can do whatever they wish with the sources and documentation for their SoC.
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Can we make a worldwide Petion to have the sources of the I9500 ?
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Hmm... the petition was not successful in case of S2... another petition was not successful in case of S3... but who knows, maybe if you ask not for petition but petion, Samsung perhaps would disclose the cernel sorse kode?
I spoke to tech support last night and they did not have any information regarding this model of the Galaxy Note 10.1. Since they didn't seem very knowledgeable I sent Samsung support an email where I stated that while I do enjoy my tablet I'm rather taken aback by the lack of updates. I requested that they at least state that they're not releasing updates for this instead of having us keep hoping.
I got this reply earlier this afternoon:
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Dear Steve ****,
Thank you for contacting Samsung. I understand that you are not happy with the Samsung Note as there are no updates on it.
I know how you feel as a customer. If I had been in your situation, I would feel the same.
If you are referring to the GT-N8013 Note, I am afraid to inform that, latest version available is 4.1.2. I do understand that must make you feel upset. We do not have any information on release of updates on your tablet model. I do not want to provide any false information. Hope you understand.
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This obviously doesn't mean other tablets won't get updates and it's clear that the 2014 Galaxy Note 10.1 will, but it is a little refreshing to at least know not to expect anything. Disappointing, but refreshing. Hopefully this'll clarify any doubts.
Maybe I'll start working on a ROM for it. Haven't made one in a while.
Where did they say that no updates are coming? They said none are available and they don't have any information to provide on when they would be coming. Samsung has already officially announced that the tablet will be being updated to 4.4
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You're wrong.
Typical Tear 1 Customer Service note
Those people would not even know a update if its code were Tattooed on there face .
These people are trained to answer questions in a way to keep the customer from Asking more. He told you EXACTLY What you ask him to Hear.Why did you not Quote the Official List and Update release comments on samsung mobile. Maybe he might have looked into it..
Anyway Just like my post to this threat This Thread is a waste and a Place for Tempers to flair..
Enjoy your TABLET No real need to chase updates. My note works perfect as it is. Thou i would enjoy the new update its not killing me not having it..
Good Luck.
Nothing to see here...
Your question: - when are we getting an update?
Their answer: We don't know anything.
This thread is so pointless! its already been confirmed so I don't understand why you posted this.
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Cozmo1 said:
I spoke to tech support last night and they did not have any information regarding this model of the Galaxy Note 10.1. Since they didn't seem very knowledgeable I sent Samsung support an email where I stated that while I do enjoy my tablet I'm rather taken aback by the lack of updates. I requested that they at least state that they're not releasing updates for this instead of having us keep hoping.
I got this reply earlier this afternoon:
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Dear Steve ****,
Thank you for contacting Samsung. I understand that you are not happy with the Samsung Note as there are no updates on it.
I know how you feel as a customer. If I had been in your situation, I would feel the same.
If you are referring to the GT-N8013 Note, I am afraid to inform that, latest version available is 4.1.2. I do understand that must make you feel upset. We do not have any information on release of updates on your tablet model. I do not want to provide any false information. Hope you understand.
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This obviously doesn't mean other tablets won't get updates and it's clear that the 2014 Galaxy Note 10.1 will, but it is a little refreshing to at least know not to expect anything. Disappointing, but refreshing. Hopefully this'll clarify any doubts.
Maybe I'll start working on a ROM for it. Haven't made one in a while.
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False title as the body of the OP conflicts with it. Do we really need threads like this? Do we not have better things to do?
*Thread Reported
When do you realize that the Samsung support is just a joke - nothing more or less... They have no info, they don't know anything and if something happens, they know it last... Sorry, but that I feel about them.
This thread is useless. There's official information out there sent out by Samsung's Press Dpt. Why did you even bother asking a tech guy/tech support when one says one thing and another says something else? Like:
- "Your tablet will get the Android OS update" (LOL, no mention of version nor anything else)
- "The Galaxy Note will get 4.2 Android update" (Yeah.....)
- "No updates"
- "No info"
Basically that resumes how useless this information was to our forums (it does not contribute to anything, really). So please request to delete this. Or you could've at least posted in the appropriate thread.
Android hater everybody know the Official Announcement from the coming update.
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This thread is useless. There's official information out there sent out by Samsung's Press Dpt. Why did you even bother asking a tech guy/tech support when one says one thing and another says something else? Like:
- "Your tablet will get the Android OS update" (LOL, no mention of version nor anything else)
- "The Galaxy Note will get 4.2 Android update" (Yeah.....)
- "No updates"
- "No info"
Basically that resumes how useless this information was to our forums (it does not contribute to anything, really). So please request to delete this. Or you could've at least posted in the appropriate thread.
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What floors me is that the OP is not a newbie here, I would have expected more from someone of that caliber.
Not to mention I as a Cowboy's Fan would expect more from a Texan.
Please use the existing thread for the upcoming update.
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