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Is this true? 5 gig limit on data plan starting on the 16 of this month?
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The 5 GB limit has been around for a while. But they don't deactivate your service or charge extra if you go over, they just throttle your speed do you can't use data as fast.
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The 5 GB limit has been around for a while. But they don't deactivate your service or charge extra if you go over, they just throttle your speed do you can't use data as fast.
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The cap was 10 GB, actually. They didn't publish it anywhere but it was there, throttling users back.
There is no ban per say. It's a Cap, and there has been one for a long time.
Does it tell us how much of a decrease we'll see in speeds?
In Turkey, I used VodaFoneTR and after a 100MB limit they hit me with 15KB/s. And I was getting about 5MBPS before the cap. It wasn't too bad at all. Monthly data unlimited was 8TL which is about $5 usd. Very fair for the price.
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Hah, yeah it's real alright. Just a week after upgrading from my G1 I got a text from t-mobile saying I've reached the data limit for my rate plan. Which I think is bull**** since my contract should have been renewed right there and then, and there's NO WAY I used up 10GB in under a week.
I'll have a talk with customer service in a bit. Edge speeds down from hspa+ is a total kick to the balls.
they will be throttling down after 5 gig and also you will have to pay for tethering now as an extra feature which will cost 15 bucks a month, i work for tmobile and spoke to the vice president just yesterday when he came for a visit
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they will be throttling down after 5 gig and also you will have to pay for tethering now as an extra feature which will cost 15 bucks a month, i work for tmobile and spoke to the vice president just yesterday when he came for a visit
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did you need to post twice?
Once it's rooted it will be a non-issue (paid tether anyway).
Is there anyway we can monitor our data usage? The myaccount apps from tmobiles doesn't give me the info.
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Is there anyway we can monitor our data usage? The myaccount apps from tmobiles doesn't give me the info.
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You have to log into your account at T-Mobile as far as I know.
I have had internet since 2006, does it grandfather in the old unlimited rule? Or has this rule been around for quite some time?
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I have had internet since 2006, does it grandfather in the old unlimited rule? Or has this rule been around for quite some time?
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Data is still unlimited, no changes there. The only change is that once you go over 5 GB of data transfer in a billing period, your maximum data speed is decreased to "EDGE speeds" (1 Mbit max, 400 Kbit typical) until the start of your next billing period. You should still connect with HSPA+ (if available), just without the HSPA+ speeds.
Per the T-Mobile contract, they are allowed to make speed changes "in order to improve service" and whether it's 10 GB (old value) or 5 GB (the new value) can be changed without it being a contract modification since they are still providing "unlimited" data service.
So I called T-Mobile today because they have promotional 4G rate plans right now. And I gave T-Mobile my IEMI number and according to their systems the nexus one qualify for the upgrade to their 4G network. I upgraded to it for an additional $5 dollars a month. Now to my knowledge the nexus one was not built to handle 4G band speeds but I did notice a major speed boost on my device. Maybe not a full 4G experience but definitely feels like my 3G is on steroids. Btw I'm on the EVEN MORE PLUS PLAN.
That would be awesome...I thought you would need a new radio to get it. What radio version are you using? Anyhow, do post up some Speedtest results!
i was wondering about this because HSPA+ is just a newer version of what Tmo 3G phones use, afaik there is no change in the bands they use to communicate and it really should just be as simple as flashing a new radio to a phone to get it to be HSPA+ (aka 3.5G aka T-mobile 4G)
now i doubt that a provider will be willing to update their current phones because they want you to buy a new phone that is "for their 4G" network. its possible though that the Korean radios that have leaked may have this support in them and might explain why your seeing a speed increase.
something else you can do is go into settings>about phone>status> check mobile network type to see if it says HSDPA or HSPA+
there is also another more advanced screen that you can check but i forgot the silly #*#* code you put into access it but i know if you install the app anycut you can make a shortcut to the screen as well
with anycut just make a shortcut for "phone info" to pull up the more advanced screen.
I'm getting 2.87MBps down, and 1.30MBps up. And no I didn't do any radio update. I just told the T-Mobile I wanna switch over to 4G and they said ok and switched me over for an extra five dollars a month.
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look @ my sig, no 4G and i got better speeds
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I'm getting 2.87MBps down, and 1.30MBps up. And no I didn't do any radio update. I just told the T-Mobile I wanna switch over to 4G and they said ok and switched me over for an extra five dollars a month.
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that's not HSPA+ speeds, HSPA+ speed varies from the same as HSDPA to twice as fast.
http://www.tested.com/forums/phones/4/tested-t-mobiles-hspa-network-vs-traditional-3g/3943/
in this test the N1 maxed out at 2.41MBit down and the G2 never went under 3.32Mbit down and topped out at 8.16Mbit down.
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that is very good for 3G but uncommon and probably about as fast as you will ever see on HSDPA.
here in the east SF Bay area i usually get about 1.0 Mbit down on my N1 on T-mobile but the speed i see varies and depends highly on local network traffic and what my signal strength is at
Keep in mind that I'm in the subberbs
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Check the specs, n1 will only Max at 7.2 dl 2.0 ul, anything higher is bull
http://www.htc.com/www/product/nexusone/specification.html
N1 here and I had the original data plan that cost 24.99/mo. Old family plan I had for ages since I had the SE Xperia X1, which I still have but do not use .
I have the 3G+ speeds ever since I started using the CM roms, but I never "upgraded" the data plan for faster speed.
How much were you paying beforehand if I may ask? And was it a data plan as well?
I don't think the Nexus can handle the same speeds as the G2 or the new Mytouch 4G.
At work someone has the Mytouch 4G and we did speed test with both phone, mine is on the latest Korean radio and he's download speed was always double than my Nexus.
So again I don't think is possible.
Never claimed to be on HSPA+
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Never claimed to be on HSPA+
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I didn't implied you lie, what I say is they are wrong, and it's sad because I'd love to have 4G in the nexus.
I dont really understand 3g and 4g speeds, but isnt the latency more important? I dont think 3mb vs 10mb will make a huge difference on a phone, it doesnt on my desktop connection, but isnt the biggest hurdle the time to actually get the network to connect to the internet? From what i have noticed, the first website you access takes alot longer than the subsequent sites.
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I dont really understand 3g and 4g speeds, but isnt the latency more important? I dont think 3mb vs 10mb will make a huge difference on a phone, it doesnt on my desktop connection, but isnt the biggest hurdle the time to actually get the network to connect to the internet? From what i have noticed, the first website you access takes alot longer than the subsequent sites.
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Depends on your usage...if you download files, then speed DOES matter, MUCH more than latency. If you simply browse, you do need a MINIMUM speed, but then latency is mucchhhh more important. I would consider 5mb a minimum speed for good browsing.
On computers, you CAN use faster speeds to access the pages faster by using pipelining...dun think phones have support for that though
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So I called T-Mobile today because they have promotional 4G rate plans right now. And I gave T-Mobile my IEMI number and according to their systems the nexus one qualify for the upgrade to their 4G network. I upgraded to it for an additional $5 dollars a month. Now to my knowledge the nexus one was not built to handle 4G band speeds but I did notice a major speed boost on my device. Maybe not a full 4G experience but definitely feels like my 3G is on steroids. Btw I'm on the EVEN MORE PLUS PLAN.
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Call them back and get back on the $20 preferred Android Internet plan. They misinformed you. The data plan you are on does not determine the data speed you see. There are a ton of people on HowardForums with old grandfathered $5.99 T-Zones plans and $9.99 web2go data plans getting faster speeds then what you are seeing.
You are wasting your money with any plan more expensive then the $20 preferred Android Internet plan and if you can get on a cheaper one it will work exactly the same.
It's very possible that T-mobile is throttling accounts now that they can offer faster overall speeds.
It could be a (****ty-consumer wise) way to exploit the 4g (mis)nomer.
I can tell you this I am a T-mobile RSA and I am not sure what the extra $5 amonth the guy did but there is no 4g data plan. Every Android data plan i use in the store is the same plan I give ppl on every android phone T-Mobile sells. There is no 3G or 4G plan. Every plan is the same unless you are looking at the 200mb, 2gb, unlimited plan. I would say call 611 and tell them to change it back and run speed test again. T-Mobile in the soon to be future is moving to a 3 tier data plan. By this I mean they are going to let you pick a 200mb, 2gb, and unlimited data rate plan. Every plan is going to have the same speeds but limit you to what you can download before you are throttled or start to see overages. Call and get your money back.
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I can tell you this I am a T-mobile RSA and I am not sure what the extra $5 amonth the guy did but there is no 4g data plan. Every Android data plan i use in the store is the same plan I give ppl on every android phone T-Mobile sells. There is no 3G or 4G plan. Every plan is the same unless you are looking at the 200mb, 2gb, unlimited plan. I would say call 611 and tell them to change it back and run speed test again. T-Mobile in the soon to be future is moving to a 3 tier data plan. By this I mean they are going to let you pick a 200mb, 2gb, and unlimited data rate plan. Every plan is going to have the same speeds but limit you to what you can download before you are throttled or start to see overages. Call and get your money back.
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Same thing he said. I'm a TMobile CSR and whoever you were speaking with was trying to get a 5.00 bump on there add ons. No difference between EDGE data plans/3G data plan/4G(HSPA+) data plans. People that use the Iphone on our network pay the same 25 or 30 that people do that have 3G devices.
OP is a car salesman dream customer. "Would you like extended warranty?"
I'm in canada on rogers "hsdpa+, hspa, 4g, etc" and at peak hours I get 2.95 down and 1.2 up and have had up to 5.65 down 1.4 up
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Not sure if you all knew, which most probably did and I'm just stupid. But Tmobile introduced a new plan on 5-23-2011 that caps and throttles you at 10GB instead of 5GB. I found out about this from a friend who recently was shopping for a new carrier and a store rep had said it was available. I just called Tmobile and sure enough they now offer it as well as a 2GB with overages. Heres the link for reference:
http://mobile-broadband.t-mobile.com/plans
Only problem from what I can tell is you need to sign a new agreement. So any grandfathered plan you might currently be on goes out the door. That was a deal breaker for me as I love my 5 faves! For now anyways. I know I personally hit the 5GB limit once and got close a couple other times so I am still considering my options. At least we can include this as another one now though
I have an unlimited (real unlimited) plan so, they keep trying to get me to change the plan ........... but NOOOOOOOOO WAY........ Nice to know, a 10 gig plan is really a decent size
Out of curiosity, why not get an unlimited plan on Verizon's smartphones?
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Out of curiosity, why not get an unlimited plan on Verizon's smartphones?
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Because we are on T-Mobile? >.>
Plus Verizon is getting rid of their unlimited plan, AND adding family data sharing plans, so it's even worse lol.
Sure you get grandfathered in, but T-Mobile 3G > Verizon 3G, LTE will get slower as more phones/tablets are released, so I'd rather stick with a carrier I know is reliable, fast, and cheap. ^^
Out of curiosity, why not get an unlimited plan on Verizon's smartphones?
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Because droids suck excluding charge an lte kills battery tmo 3G is fast I get 6MBS an plus I like having money in my pocket
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Because we are on T-Mobile? >.>
Plus Verizon is getting rid of their unlimited plan, AND adding family data sharing plans, so it's even worse lol.
Sure you get grandfathered in, but T-Mobile 3G > Verizon 3G, LTE will get slower as more phones/tablets are released, so I'd rather stick with a carrier I know is reliable, fast, and cheap. ^^
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I agree, from what I understand Verizon is implementing a tiered plan system also with the release of their IPhone5 and "Bionic". Of course as with any carrier if ur in a situation where ur getting a "grandfathered" plan usually its gonna be better than whatever their offering you in some way. Their just offering one thing to try to lure you away from what you already got. I just posted this for those that are not on a true "unlimited" plan and do get throttled at 5GB. A higher cap is something I personally was hoping for after being throttled my first time.
I thought that my grandfathered plan with the my faves was better until I started looking at what I really use. I had a my faves plan with 1800 minutes and unlimited data. (BTW those old unlimited data plans cap high speed at 2GB not the 5GB that most are thinking, then you are throttled)
I ended up changing to the unlimited talk text and data (with the 5GB cap on high speed per line) and saved about $25 a month. (family plan)
They are all unlimited data plans, the only difference is that they are not putting the high speed cap in the fine print any longer, It's there as bold as can be.
I use about 3.5GB a month and my wife uses about 2.5 GB a month so paying for anymore high speed that I need didn't make sense.
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I thought that my grandfathered plan with the my faves was better until I started looking at what I really use. I had a my faves plan with 1800 minutes and unlimited data. (BTW those old unlimited data plans cap high speed at 2GB not the 5GB that most are thinking, then you are throttled)
I ended up changing to the unlimited talk text and data (with the 5GB cap on high speed per line) and saved about $25 a month. (family plan)
They are all unlimited data plans, the only difference is that they are not putting the high speed cap in the fine print any longer, It's there as bold as can be.
I use about 3.5GB a month and my wife uses about 2.5 GB a month so paying for anymore high speed that I need didn't make sense.
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I use around 7-8GB a month (and I WAS on the 5GB plan, so I'd get capped every month, and just deal with the EDGE like speeds), and these new plans that they offer are amazing. 10GB plan now, and I won't get capped every month. ^^
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I thought that my grandfathered plan with the my faves was better until I started looking at what I really use. I had a my faves plan with 1800 minutes and unlimited data. (BTW those old unlimited data plans cap high speed at 2GB not the 5GB that most are thinking, then you are throttled)
I ended up changing to the unlimited talk text and data (with the 5GB cap on high speed per line) and saved about $25 a month. (family plan)
They are all unlimited data plans, the only difference is that they are not putting the high speed cap in the fine print any longer, It's there as bold as can be.
I use about 3.5GB a month and my wife uses about 2.5 GB a month so paying for anymore high speed that I need didn't make sense.
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I started looking at this too. We are on 1800 family plan, fave 5, unlimited texts, w/family allowances. In the past 3 months neither my wife nor I have used more than 1.3 gb. Can make the same switch (though 2gb), upgrade our daughter from a feature phone to an android with unlimited minutes & texts + 2gb and pay the same or a few bucks less each month
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Right now im at 13GB, haven't been capped even though I got the text message saying so. Last month was the same. Didn't get throttled.
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Yayy for at&ts 200mb plan!! -__-
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I got tmobile 2g dat and i already spend it and now i got 22.11 data so is they gonna charge me for keep using the internet ?
Which phone company in your opinion is the best with its "unlimited" data plans? I have tmobile and it is fustrating whne they slow my phone down but I heard that verizon is worse! I know sprint is really unlimited but it goes at 3g speeds which is slow compared to the other companies. So in your opinion which is the best???
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Which phone company in your opinion is the best with its "unlimited" data plans? I have tmobile and it is fustrating whne they slow my phone down but I heard that verizon is worse! I know sprint is really unlimited but it goes at 3g speeds which is slow compared to the other companies. So in your opinion which is the best???
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May be better put in an XDA general thread rather than a specific device thread. You're going to find lots of international users and T-mobile users in here so there's going to be a lack of info or a bias towards T-mobile.
As far as the USA goes, T-mobile and Sprint are the only two with unlimited data. AT&T has been on tiered 2GB plans for a long time, and Verizon has tiered as well. So its like this:
Sprint: Unlimited, literally. Use as much 3G/4G as you want
T-mobile: Unlimited to 5GB (if you're grandfathered) or 2GB if you're a new customer. After 5GB (or 2GB, plan depending). You get throttled to EDGE for the rest of the month, but no overages.
AT&T: 2GB cap. Overages for using more for 2GB. Can add another 2GB with a tethering package.
Verizon: Tiers. 2GB, 5GB, 10GB. Overages for using more than your cap.
So unless you like the phones on sprint, T-mobile is your best situation considering you can never get charged overages, just get slowed down. And the cap before you get slowed is higher than the others. Not to mention that a non-contract T-mobile plan is $30 cheaper per month than AT&T or Verizon w/ less data. Of course where you live plays a large factor too. T-mobile is known to have a smaller coverage area, but generally fast speeds when you do have coverage because of the quick HSPA+, and much fewer users per tower.
Sucks, but its the way it is here.
Id like to add to this thread, if u have a wireless router at home turn on your wifi when u r home. I got throttled once and it sucks, ever since then I wifi when at home.
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And if only the carriers here in Canada would actually realise that they are raping customers... maybe we could get great data plans... 35$ just for 1gb and 5$ extra per mb used if I go over... Like REALLY?
It's almost worth having a number from Europe with unlimited everything for 65$....
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And if only the carriers here in Canada would actually realise that they are raping customers... maybe we could get great data plans... 35$ just for 1gb and 5$ extra per mb used if I go over... Like REALLY?
It's almost worth having a number from Europe with unlimited everything for 65$....
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Yea I've heard Canadian carriers are horrible on price and features, even worse than the USA In some ways. We're both way behind the rest of the world when it comes to cellphone carriers and competition.
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And if only the carriers here in Canada would actually realise that they are raping customers... maybe we could get great data plans... 35$ just for 1gb and 5$ extra per mb used if I go over... Like REALLY?
It's almost worth having a number from Europe with unlimited everything for 65$....
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Geez, man I feel for you bro! How awful!
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As long a your at a place with sprint 4g your good with sprint
Plus tons of paces have wifi so its not much of a problem
Plus sprint usa kind of not as expensive as the other carriers
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Yea to me I do like sprint and tmobile the only problem is the speed that you get from sprint is nowhere near as fast as tmobiles my gf has sprint and my phone is faster than hers even when they slow mine down! That's really slow!
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I think "true" unlimited data is going to soon be extinct. Even Sprint will eventually change their ways. The rise of data-hungry smartphones is a reality on a finite amount of spectrum. Getting throttled is always preferable to overages, and this is why AT&T sucks (among other reasons).
Oh and T-Mobile is going to start overages as well, at least on their lightest data plan. Not sure how many of us Android geeks would start up this kind of plan, but there it is. Source----> http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mobile-changing-200mb-data-plan-away-from-throttling-to-overage/
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Oh and T-Mobile is going to start overages as well, at least on their lightest data plan. Not sure how many of us Android geeks would start up this kind of plan, but there it is. Source----> http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mobile-changing-200mb-data-plan-away-from-throttling-to-overage/
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There was a thread on this the other day. This is only for the 200mb plan, which you wouldn't even want to touch on a smartphone. Its meant for featurephones and super low end android phones.
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May be better put in an XDA general thread rather than a specific device thread. You're going to find lots of international users and T-mobile users in here so there's going to be a lack of info or a bias towards T-mobile.
As far as the USA goes, T-mobile and Sprint are the only two with unlimited data. AT&T has been on tiered 2GB plans for a long time, and Verizon has tiered as well. So its like this:
Sprint: Unlimited, literally. Use as much 3G/4G as you want
T-mobile: Unlimited to 5GB (if you're grandfathered) or 2GB if you're a new customer. After 5GB (or 2GB, plan depending). You get throttled to EDGE for the rest of the month, but no overages.
AT&T: 2GB cap. Overages for using more for 2GB. Can add another 2GB with a tethering package.
Verizon: Tiers. 2GB, 5GB, 10GB. Overages for using more than your cap.
Sucks, but its the way it is here.
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T-mo has a 10gb data package as well now. kind'a expensive IIRC though, I just stuck with my grandfathered 5gb plan... it's never an issue for me and I occasionally stream Netflix via PS3/Wii using wifi tether.
utilize wifi whenever possible and download files to your pc if you're at home/work then transfer them rather than using the phone directly.
I have the 200 mb plan. Rarely go over. I live in an E area. Rarely do i get to a 4G area. I was told when i went with t-mobile after centennial sold out to att that i would have 3 G . NOT. So i uses wifi whenever I can.
That's also a problem I don't have access to wifi neither do I have a home computer so I have to rely on my phones internet for mostly everything and it gets frustrating when my phone is slow
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That's also a problem I don't have access to wifi neither do I have a home computer so I have to rely on my phones internet for mostly everything and it gets frustrating when my phone is slow
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Well that's your own issue. Your phone's 3G connection isn't meant to be used as a home internet connection, and you really can't expect to use it in that way. The days of unlimited, unthrottled 3G are coming to a close, and you really need to think about that.
The prices for data are WAY higher per GB for 3G anyway, and you'd be better off buying a home cable/DSL connection even if you could use 3G unlimited.
Will I at least be able to get regular 3g speeds or do they throttle you even more?
Bad. Very, very, very, very bad.
I work for a retailer and I sell a hell of a lot of T-Mobile. You will be down to edge and from then on, it's pretty unusable. Their HSPA+ is brilliant in my area. It rivals the speeds of VZW's LTE here... But running on 2G is horrible. If you're on a classic plan and can afford to shell out another $10 a month, I'd just go for the truly unlimited data without any throttling. I mean, that's if you don't feel that 2 GIGs of HSPA+ is enough.
I'll be going with their $30/mo plan with 5gb of 4g data. You have to really try to go over 5gb of data lol
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I'll be going with their $30/mo plan with 5gb of 4g data. You have to really try to go over 5gb of data lol
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If you're spending $30/month it's unlimited now. There is no throttling on that plan. Th only 5GB plan they offer is $35 and that gives you the mobile hotspot feature. So, you should be good either way! I love the anti-throttle that they have going on. Definitely worth the extra $10 over the 2GB plan if you ask me.
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If you're spending $30/month it's unlimited now. There is no throttling on that plan. Th only 5GB plan they offer is $35 and that gives you the mobile hotspot feature. So, you should be good either way! I love the anti-throttle that they have going on. Definitely worth the extra $10 over the 2GB plan if you ask me.
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Hate to burst your bubble but if you read the fine print on the $30 Monthly 4G it says first 5GB up to 4G speeds.
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
found out that they throttle you to 2g speeds.
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Hate to burst your bubble but if you read the fine print the on the $30 Monthly 4G it says unlimited data up to 5GB max.
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Really? I'm going to check that when I get in to work today. I've read the fine prints on our new "TRULY UNLIMITED" brochures and the new contracts and I don't recall reading anything about that. I wouldn't put it past big magenta, though. Seriously.
I do know that the old contracts read something about "To provide a good experience to the majority of our customers (blah blah blah) up to 5GB." At our meeting a few months back about this, we were all told to make sure we're switching customers off of their grandfathered unlimited data plans that had the 5GB cap and move them to the newer ones.
Then again, I'm at a retailer that does VZW and AT&T as well, so I could be misinformed when it comes to that. I'm definitely going to have to look into it more.
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Hate to burst your bubble but if you read the fine print on the $30 Monthly 4G it says first 5GB up to 4G speeds.
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
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Monthly4G plans are prepaid. Truly Unlimited Nationwide 4G is only offered on postpaid accounts. Assuming the OP is talking about a postpaid Truly Unlimited Nationwide 4G account, then there is no (advertised) throttle. As described here:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Packages/ValuePackages.aspx
"There are no limits, no overages, no worries—you never have to keep track of how much data you use."
Monthly4G accounts will throttle to EDGE speeds after you use up your allotment of 4G (ex. "*First 5 GB at up to 4G speeds").
I wonder how T-Mobile's plans will shake up next year when they get rid of contract plans altogether and introduce LTE.
I went over my throttle limit once, when I move houses and didn't have broadband for a month. Throttle is slow.. Slower than edge. About the same speed as dialup.
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