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Can xda developers port good Samsung Galaxy S apps to Nexus S? For example Camera, Keyboard, Voice Recorder, AllShare, Messaging? Is it possible to have binary compatibility and simply move .apk? I believe this is the same architecture, very similar hardware or am I wrong?
The hardware is almost the same, but the problem is in the 2.3 OS. Ports have already been made for the keyboard and the launcher. Look it up on the Samsung Galaxy S forums.
Edit: I've misread what you wrote. I think it's possible. Maybe it will work if you simply extract apk from app folder on sam gal s, and push it to nexus, or install.
Some of the apps you mentioned depend on the TouchWiz framework that we all hate. With no TW, the apps may not work on a Nexus S.
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rajendra82 said:
Some of the apps you mentioned depend on the TouchWiz framework that we all hate. With no TW, the apps may not work on a Nexus S.
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Umm speak for yourself. I have an Epic and Nexus S and my Epic with 2.1 and TW was smokin out of the box. Now that it has Froyo on it the phone purrs. TW is like modified AOSP where all my TW apps have slight enhancements. It never lags and is not a resource hog like Sense.
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Can xda developers port good Samsung Galaxy S apps to Nexus S? For example Camera, Keyboard, Voice Recorder, AllShare, Messaging? Is it possible to have binary compatibility and simply move .apk? I believe this is the same architecture, very similar hardware or am I wrong?
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+1 for the Camera app. Pictures / Videos are much better quality, imo. Oh, and the video player + codecs too!
em.....Nexus S owners want some TW love......
wanting touchwiz makes me scratch my head.
wanting sense makes me scratch my head.
heh.
to each his own, i guess. just really seems like a lot of you are wanting to take steps BACK. just my opinion.
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wanting touchwiz makes me scratch my head.
wanting sense makes me scratch my head.
heh.
to each his own, i guess. just really seems like a lot of you are wanting to take steps BACK. just my opinion.
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extra features usually means step forward not back......
Having more options is a step forward.
Slowing down your device considerably is not.
There's aren't steps forward... true nexus fans got This phone, to keep it simply Google, not tainted with touchwiz, sense or moto blur. we love untouched untainted Google software, the way the company wanted it to be, and for a reason. Its faster!! U want ur junky touchwiz, then go back to a real Samsung device. Not a Google phone.
No offence, but these comments are coming from Samsung fans, that think the nexus s is the next galaxy phone. Its not!! Welcome to the real world of androind, unmolested by other companies so called tweaks to the system..
Just the two cents from a real nexus, Google, android enthusiast!!
And HTC, but we'll keep the best phone company out of this discussion lolol
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kolyan said:
extra features usually means step forward not back......
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Adding extra, worthless BLOAT to the pure Android experience of the Nexus is a huge step back. Those terrible UI skins cripple the open-source nature of Android and do nothing but provide problems in exchange for pointless "eye candy."
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why don't you just buy a galaxy s??
I hate to bump just an incredibly OLD thread, but this is not going a step back, this is a step forward, customization is Android, just because Android is pure doesn't mean it's going to be better in the sense that it offers functionality. Example? TouchWiz offers a notification widget for the music player, also a lockscreen music widget. Want another example? Sense has an email widget, a much deeper integration with Facebook, Flickr, and Twitter. Still not convinced? Look at Motoblur, while some see it as ugly, a lot of people find that the deep deep integration with social networking is a great experience. It's all about features, and that is something Android has lacked since the 2.3.3 update, with Facebook integration being blown out for a reason no one really understands.
Anyone have a way to get the Samsung Keypad on the Nexus S?
I really don't get people who are talking about bloatware on rooted phone. You can uninstall every single system app you want. Touchwiz is definitely an improvement over stock android: hardware accelerated browser (the browser on nexus S is unusable for me, everytime it loads an image or some flash content it lags like hell, I have to use opera mobile for a smooth browsing experience), it has video codecs, it has a great camera app, a great messaging app and a good keyboard. Removing the touchwiz launcher is, again, very easy. What? You're saying you can't use ADW or launcher pro on it or wtf?
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Anyone have a way to get the Samsung Keypad on the Nexus S?
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Ok guys,
Samsung's new flagship, the Galaxy S III, was released yesterday.
As I saw the new UI my first thought was "I want this this and this for my S2!"
So what are your thoughts...
New TouchWiz?
Only the Lockscreen with App Shortcuts?
Only the "nature" animations?
Ported stuff (yet)
TouchWiz UX - Here
S-Voice (fixed = no build.prop needed!) - Here (Download)
Accu Weather Widget - Here (Download)
PopUp Play (just a solution) - Here
will add the remaining stuff later...
I kinda like the new touchwiz. Not sure if its out for the GS2 atm, but if it's not, I'm sure it will get ported back to the GS2 by a kind developer (maybe as a whole launcher).
All that nature stuff is bs. Who are they marketing for? 50 year old wemon?
I'd like the stay awake feature, perhaps the voice control for driving, seems a lot better than the current one.
Will add a poll later this Day...
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Hehe, I was thinking of that kind of topic when I see yours
TW? Hum I'm not sure when you came from AOSP, pure Google experience that you want this
S-Blablabla? For example S-Voice: yes! All the S-blablabla are really interesting, the smartphone become really smart with these stuff, so I think this is where the S3 is great for us
If we can port these stuff, why should we buy a new S3? It only has a quadcore and à 720p Screen, and everybody knows that for the moment our Dualcore are correct...Until the S4
But another problem... the S3 has a bigger battery and I think the S-blabla can drain our battery really fast because they use the hardware (like the front cam) in background...So do we need a sort of S2 with S3 stuff but a dramatic battery life?
Id like a full port of everything lol
GOOGLE stuff r better then TW of SGS2 for ICS but not for GB (SAMSUNG adds so maney stuff that users that try AOSP allways ask why cant i find X and Y that i used to have in stock)
and now they done it again
the new TW looks better then GOOGLE stock and with TW stuff in it its better then the GOOGLE original
S-voice , TouchWiz Nature UX with all stuff and water-like lockscreen
p.s. - port of everything posible ))
I wouldnt have thought this would even need to be discussed, of course these bits and bobs are going to be ported to ROMS, shouldnt be too difficult either as its the same chipset, just another two cpu's strapped on.
What I am interested in with this Thread is, why people want especially "this" feature
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For those who are disappointed because of the spec. I'd say just go away.
Samsung realized that pushing hardware is enough for android now( it's really useless since every phones from other market brings the similar specs.)
so put some great effort to bring out the best user experiences with all those new cool features.
I don't think we will be able to port any functionality but S voice since i heard it fetches data from server.
The whole ROM, the new TW is nice (i still dont like it much, but it's better than the GS2 one), i love all the new features especially stay awake function and the camera improvement.
If possible, I would like every new feature. (even the touchwiz ui)
but most of all the S voice to go hands free.
Touchwiz
The touchwiz looks way better than the one on the gs2. S voice functions not so much till it completely understand natural language. On the whole yeah pushing the specs not that high is a good move and better yet focus on their feel and look
I'm sick of everyone saying I want aosp or cm9 unless u can get all the neat touch wiz features on them ill take touchwiz anyday even the current one. I hope this gets ported to my s2.
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S VOICE & the lockscreen. Other things are hardware related. Not expecting anything else
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irish-sid said:
All that nature stuff is bs. Who are they marketing for? 50 year old wemon?
I'd like the stay awake feature, perhaps the voice control for driving, seems a lot better than the current one.
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+1 ! I am, not buying that gay-nature-get in touch with your feelings stuff... I don't like how it looks,but that blinking-reading detection thing is kinda cool!
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why there is no option in the poll "Whatever possible" ?
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why there is no option in the poll "Whatever possible" ?
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Becoz then I would have missed the sense of this thread - I want to know what feature S2 owners are missing most
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Hi, if you haven't heard of it the Samsung Note II has a very interesting feature: Split screen multi window support. Here's a video:
As you can see, it works very well and makes multitasking on the device a breeze. The video states that only a few apps are supported which is kind of correct; devs can add support to their apps with a single line of code, or you can flash a new list of supported apps to manually add support for the ones you want.
In my opinion, if this was added to AOSP it could be the killer feature that would set Android apart from iOS. But that's not the point of my post, what I'm wondering is if this feature can be ported to run on the Nexus 4. I don't know much about Android development, but it seems like there are two options for this to happen:
1. Port Touchwiz from the Note II to the Nexus 4, and then remove bloatware apps/retheme so that it looks more like AOSP.
2. Somehow remove the split-screen component from the touchwiz ROM, port to AOSP, profit.
Obviously #2 is preferable, but pretty far fetched. Can any developer folk provide some insight on whether either of these are feasible? I would really love to heave this feature on my phone.
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Thanks.
I'm kind of disappointed no one seems to be interested in multi window. I think it's a killer feature.
Whatever happened to Cornerstone?
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Split-Screen apps is not part of touchwiz it is part of the framework (for lack of a better term) system behind touchwiz. There are people on the GNote10 forum here at xda that have rooted and are running different launchers other than touchwiz but they are still getting Split-Screen Multitasking.
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Split-Screen apps is not part of touchwiz it is part of the framework (for lack of a better term) system behind touchwiz. There are people on the GNote10 forum here at xda that have rooted and are running different launchers other than touchwiz but they are still getting Split-Screen Multitasking.
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Touchwiz isn't just a launcher, it's really a whole OS based on Android.
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Touchwiz isn't just a launcher, it's really a whole OS based on Android.
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That's what I thought but there are several people that say they have replaced (what they call the ugly resource hog) TouchWiz and still have the multi-screens by replacing the launcher. So they claim the muli-screens are part of the (their name for it) framework. All I know is I wish the multi-screens and floating windows could be part of Android so multi-screens and floating windows could be on all android devices because they really help productivity.
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Whatever happened to Cornerstone?
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Essentially, Google asked Onskreen/Cyanogenmod to stop. The touchwiz version doesn't have the same compatibility problems because the app developer must integrate support into his app, instead of it working automatically.
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That's what I thought but there are several people that say they have replaced (what they call the ugly resource hog) TouchWiz and still have the multi-screens by replacing the launcher.
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They are referring to touchscreen as the visible elements (adjustments to notifications, touchwiz launcher, etc.) and in the technical sense. They have only hidden these elements, not removed them (except for the launcher and default apps). The ROM is still based off of a touchwiz ROM, and not AOSP, hence the multi window options remain.
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Hi, if you haven't heard of it the Samsung Note II has a very interesting feature: Split screen multi window support. Here's a video:
As you can see, it works very well and makes multitasking on the device a breeze. The video states that only a few apps are supported which is kind of correct; devs can add support to their apps with a single line of code, or you can flash a new list of supported apps to manually add support for the ones you want.
In my opinion, if this was added to AOSP it could be the killer feature that would set Android apart from iOS. But that's not the point of my post, what I'm wondering is if this feature can be ported to run on the Nexus 4. I don't know much about Android development, but it seems like there are two options for this to happen:
1. Port Touchwiz from the Note II to the Nexus 4, and then remove bloatware apps/retheme so that it looks more like AOSP.
2. Somehow remove the split-screen component from the touchwiz ROM, port to AOSP, profit.
Obviously #2 is preferable, but pretty far fetched. Can any developer folk provide some insight on whether either of these are feasible? I would really love to heave this feature on my phone.
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It'd be better on n7. I could watch twitch/use yaairc as desired!
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I don't see the appeal really. Unless on a Tablet. Seems Pointless On A Screen Smaller Than 5". other than watching video while doing other things which we can already do. what else you need to do really that you can't just switch to
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If any of the devs are reading this please please please find a way to port this baby on the Nexus 4. Im a multitasker and that quad core needs to be utilized.
Im begging.
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If any of the devs are reading this please please please find a way to port this baby on the Nexus 4. Im a multitasker and that quad core needs to be utilized.
Im begging.
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I'm not begging but +1
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Essentially, Google asked Onskreen/Cyanogenmod to stop.
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Wasn't it just moveable 'windows' that Google was against?
If you want to port touchwiz frame work over to the nexus. You do that then I will short the multi window!
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Seems Pointless On A Screen Smaller Than 5"
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I agree, but with most 2013 flagships being FullHD 5" phones, I think this feature is becoming increasingly useful. Splitting a 1080p screen in the middle leaves 2x 1080x960 halves, easily enough to functionally use most apps (at least while the keyboard isn't displayed) imo.
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I agree, but with most 2013 flagships being FullHD 5" phones, I think this feature is becoming increasingly useful. Splitting a 1080p screen in the middle leaves 2x 1080x960 halves, easily enough to functionally use most apps (at least while the keyboard isn't displayed) imo.
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While personally I don't much of a point for this on small screens - it still stands that the smaller screens of today are still going on resolutions that used to be tablet domain, Now that the lines between tablets, phablets and tablets have been getting much more blurry - and many of all 3 are based on same SoCs (Both due to SoC & auxiliary size shrinking and avg phone size growing) - this function should hopefully be revived.
Especially considering the developement an outspread of highly capable android tablets during the last year.
Hi all
Currently got a Samsung i9505 running 4.4 via cyanogenmod 11....all in all its working really well, does anyone know if it's possible to install the "stock" s4 camera and if so where to get it. If not, can you suggest a free alternative that has the same/as good functionality?
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Hi all
Currently got a Samsung i9505 running 4.4 via cyanogenmod 11....all in all its working really well, does anyone know if it's possible to install the "stock" s4 camera and if so where to get it. If not, can you suggest a free alternative that has the same/as good functionality?
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Good question! I've been trying to find out the same thing... I've tried a bunch of camera apps from Google Play but nothing lives up to the Sammy camera. I wonder if we could install the official GPE camera apk? Or is that strictly not aosp?
I'm wondering the same thing for CM 10.2.
The issue with the camera in AOSP ROMS is that the stock TouchWiz camera has all kinds of proprietary software driving it. That software is built into different parts of the rom and absolutely requires the TouchWiz framework to run. (Which is also proprietary)
So there is no way to get the stock TW camera to run on any AOSP rom.
This means that any other app that is using the camera is using generic software to run the camera hardware. This leaves out the ability to do things that the TW software was specifically written to do like crisp auto focus and color depth and all those goodies that make the TW camera better. All that software was written specificly for the S4 hardware.
The Cyanogen camera or the Google stock camera is just an app using generic software not written specificly for this phone's camera hardware. That's no different than ANY other camera you can find on Google Play. They are ALL using generic software.
As a result, none of them are every going to be as crisp as the TouchWiz camera software. They almost all still take a really good picture with this phone, and many give various effects you might enjoy, but if you are looking for a downloadable camera app that takes a higher resolution, better focused picture than the CM camera, you're not going to find one that's substantially better.
It's the major drawback of AOSP roms on the S4. But unless you are a photog with a really decerning eye, you will eventually become used to the AOSP Camera quality. It's still better than most other phones on the market.
Thanks Skipjacks.
That post should be made a sticky as it applies to a whole load of ROMs and something that a lot of people want.
u got it
u just got lucky, there is Stock Camera for cm10.try this...it say's s3 but since cm uses the same app for recording media it won't make a differene , you will just have an additional camera icon that youi can choose to open your camera and switch whenever you like.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/75589-galaxy-s3-stock-camera-for-aosp/
sorry for posting the link...if i'm not sup. to ... so grab the file whille you can, till this reply will be delleted
cheers
Cuda
Skipjacks said:
The issue with the camera in AOSP ROMS is that the stock TouchWiz camera has all kinds of proprietary software driving it. That software is built into different parts of the rom and absolutely requires the TouchWiz framework to run. (Which is also proprietary)
So there is no way to get the stock TW camera to run on any AOSP rom.
This means that any other app that is using the camera is using generic software to run the camera hardware. This leaves out the ability to do things that the TW software was specifically written to do like crisp auto focus and color depth and all those goodies that make the TW camera better. All that software was written specificly for the S4 hardware.
The Cyanogen camera or the Google stock camera is just an app using generic software not written specificly for this phone's camera hardware. That's no different than ANY other camera you can find on Google Play. They are ALL using generic software.
As a result, none of them are every going to be as crisp as the TouchWiz camera software. They almost all still take a really good picture with this phone, and many give various effects you might enjoy, but if you are looking for a downloadable camera app that takes a higher resolution, better focused picture than the CM camera, you're not going to find one that's substantially better.
It's the major drawback of AOSP roms on the S4. But unless you are a photog with a really decerning eye, you will eventually become used to the AOSP Camera quality. It's still better than most other phones on the market.
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That is an excellent response. Already gave a thanks but would like to say it directly. I wish all the knowledgeable folks would answer this way.
My note 10.1-2012 with cyanogenmod is so much faster for drawing with sketchbook. Zooming and pen tracking are fantastic. I loved it so much that I went for the 2014 model. Disappoint! The whole reason i got this tab was to sketch and the performance just isnt there. Currently using the latest Bindroid and I don't blame the ROM, I blame touch wiz. Users rallied to get DutchDanny (the dev of Bindroid) a tab maybe it could happen again to get CM for us? Anyone want it want it as bad as I do?!
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My note 10.1-2012 with cyanogenmod is so much faster for drawing with sketchbook. Zooming and pen tracking are fantastic. I loved it so much that I went for the 2014 model. Disappoint! The whole reason i got this tab was to sketch and the performance just isnt there. Currently using the latest Bindroid and I don't blame the ROM, I blame touch wiz. Users rallied to get DutchDanny (the dev of Bindroid) a tab maybe it could happen again to get CM for us? Anyone want it want it as bad as I do?!
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I'm saying it here from the moment i got my Note!
But as far as i know, there is no Developer that knows how to port a Vanilla ROM to our device...
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I want it more than you!
No. Almost everyone with Note 2's 3's 2012's uses a touch wiz rom. Wont be any different here. Im not getting rid of software that makes up 90% of the reason I buy Samsung products.
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No desire for cyanogenmod here. While some of touch wiz is annoying, if I wanted a vanilla experience I would have bought a nexus.
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No. Almost everyone with Note 2's 3's 2012's uses a touch wiz rom. Wont be any different here. Im not getting rid of software that makes up 90% of the reason I buy Samsung products.
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No desire for cyanogenmod here. While some of touch wiz is annoying, if I wanted a vanilla experience I would have bought a nexus.
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GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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Most people get a Note for the Spen features and you will lose most all of them and specifically the Air Command if you go with Cyanogen Mod. I had the Nexus 7.2 for a bit and in my opinion AOSP is very boring. A couple of years ago phones and tablets did not have the processing power to deal with TW and Sense so AOSP was very helpful for a better experience but now that is a non issue. The biggest problem with getting AOSP on this device is the cost. Most developers are not going to buy it.
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I'm saying it here from the moment i got my Note!
But as far as i know, there is no Developer that knows how to port a Vanilla ROM to our device...
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I am quite sure there are lots of developers capable of porting AOSP to this device. The correct way to say it is there is no one willing to port it.
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GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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You have to be kidding me. There are plenty of manufactures who give a vanilla or near vanilla experience. The nexus is a great high end vanilla experience. Why are you knowingly buying products you do not like? Like it or not, what sets *most* Android manufacturers apart are the skins they create.
Samsung must be doing something right now selling the lion's share of Android systems. I bought the note for a reason and Cyanogenmod cannot provide that same experience no matter how many 3rd party apps are installed.
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Most people get a Note for the Spen features and you will lose most all of them and specifically the Air Command if you go with Cyanogen Mod. I had the Nexus 7.2 for a bit and in my opinion AOSP is very boring. A couple of years ago phones and tablets did not have the processing power to deal with TW and Sense so AOSP was very helpful for a better experience but now that is a non issue. The biggest problem with getting AOSP on this device is the cost. Most developers are not going to buy it.
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I am quite sure there are lots of developers capable of porting AOSP to this device. The correct way to say it is there is no one willing to port it.
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You have to be kidding me. There are plenty of manufactures who give a vanilla or near vanilla experience. The nexus is a great high end vanilla experience. Why are you knowingly buying products you do not like? Like it or not, what sets *most* Android manufacturers apart are the skins they create.
Samsung must be doing something right now selling the lion's share of Android systems. I bought the note for a reason and Cyanogenmod cannot provide that same experience no matter how many 3rd party apps are installed.
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I like the Note, cuz it's coming with special pressure screen and s pen. Now I promise you that porting s pen's fetures from TW to CM is possible.
Yes, It wont be EXACLY like TW's features. But Vanilla has another great things to offer that will cover on it.
IT'S - ALL - SOFTWARE!
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I like the Note, cuz it's coming with special pressure screen and s pen. Now I promise you that porting s pen's fetures from TW to CM is possible.
Yes, It wont be EXACLY like TW's features. But Vanilla has another great things to offer that will cover on it.
IT'S - ALL - SOFTWARE!
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The Spen features are built into the framework. Cyanogen Mod does not have the feature in its framework. Also the Note devices have a Wacom digitizer along with the standard capacitive touchscreen. Some apps will work in Cyanogen mod but no apps which use the Samsung SDK for pen features will work. While I used the Nexus 7 2013, Cyanogen Mod was the worst of the AOSP based roms as they changed their drivers from AOSP based to CAF based which broke lots of things. The best AOSP roms are AOKP and Paranoid Android. AOSP would change this tablet into a faster Nexus 10 which I had and got the Note 2014 because of the Spen features.
PS Ditch the CAPSLOCK. No need in yelling since you are voicing opinions.
I do want CM on this. I prefer CM to TW, and I can see people who don't use the other TW features extensively benefit from CM. The only TW feature I use extensively is multiwindow, which can sorta be done on CM using Xposed right now (but not as good apparently). The only thing I'm not sure about is how Spen will be affected. I don't really use any of the S-apps, I mainly write on Papyrus and a bunch of other third party apps - which I hope shouldn't be affected?
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The Spen features are built into the framework. Cyanogen Mod does not have the feature in its framework. Also the Note devices have a Wacom digitizer along with the standard capacitive touchscreen. Some apps will work in Cyanogen mod but no apps which use the Samsung SDK for pen features will work. While I used the Nexus 7 2013, Cyanogen Mod was the worst of the AOSP based roms as they changed their drivers from AOSP based to CAF based which broke lots of things. The best AOSP roms are AOKP and Paranoid Android. AOSP would change this tablet into a faster Nexus 10 which I had and got the Note 2014 because of the Spen features.
PS Ditch the CAPSLOCK. No need in yelling since you are voicing opinions.
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Ok, have fun with your S Pen apps.
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I do want CM on this. I prefer CM to TW, and I can see people who don't use the other TW features extensively benefit from CM. The only TW feature I use extensively is multiwindow, which can sorta be done on CM using Xposed right now (but not as good apparently). The only thing I'm not sure about is how Spen will be affected. I don't really use any of the S-apps, I mainly write on Papyrus and a bunch of other third party apps - which I hope shouldn't be affected?
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I completly agree with you.
S Pen Apps are nice, but I don't use them often. I'm using my S Pen to draw, to write things quickly (yeah, an S Pen app but can replaced by an App from the Play Store) and to control easily the Note. That's a lot of good things, but they all can work on CM.
Multi Windows is the problem. Yes, there are few nice apps that can replace it, but far from TW's feature. But i guess that when the developers will want to bring it as an App, they'll to it.
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I do want CM on this. I prefer CM to TW, and I can see people who don't use the other TW features extensively benefit from CM. The only TW feature I use extensively is multiwindow, which can sorta be done on CM using Xposed right now (but not as good apparently). The only thing I'm not sure about is how Spen will be affected. I don't really use any of the S-apps, I mainly write on Papyrus and a bunch of other third party apps - which I hope shouldn't be affected?
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It would probably help you out to go to the Note 3 forums to see how AOSP roms are functioning since they are similar.
Look at that guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diIwfyo4nHQ
I know it's not CM (Omni will probably wont get to our device anytime soon), I just want you to see that it's possible...
Who knows..maybe if CM comes to the TabPro, we might be able to get it since the hardware is practically the same.
Options are always nice. Some people (like me) are considering buy the Note 10.1 instead of the Tab Pro because of the 3gb RAM and because you can get a 32 GB version now. Couldn't care less about the pen! Would very much like some stock ROM options.
ilayron8 said:
GOD, you gotta be kidding me!
You can get almost ALL of the TW features in Vanilla! With some Apps and more Devs... It's the meaning of Android - we can always change software!
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ilayron8 said:
I like the Note, cuz it's coming with special pressure screen and s pen. Now I promise you that porting s pen's fetures from TW to CM is possible.
Yes, It wont be EXACLY like TW's features. But Vanilla has another great things to offer that will cover on it.
IT'S - ALL - SOFTWARE!
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Great so find me a software replacement for any app in a floating window, 4 way split screen, a note pad that turns my handwriting into executable information, screen grabs I can easily edit, drag and drop, and a note app and finder that can even search for handwritten text. There is a reason nobody uses aosp or cyanogenmod on the note line up. Because it sucks at replicating touch wiz Very very badly. If all you wanted was a pressure sensitive pen and screen go get a nexus ten and a sketchbook and some pencils. It's the same thing right?
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Why do you care so much about how someone else uses their tablet? If you don't want a stock ROM, don't use it easy.
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Duly.noted said:
Great so find me a software replacement for any app in a floating window, 4 way split screen, a note pad that turns my handwriting into executable information, screen grabs I can easily edit, drag and drop, and a note app and finder that can even search for handwritten text. There is a reason nobody uses aosp or cyanogenmod on the note line up. Because it sucks at replicating touch wiz Very very badly. If all you wanted was a pressure sensitive pen and screen go get a nexus ten and a sketchbook and some pencils. It's the same thing right?
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Actually Xposed is fairly close to replicating that multiwindow/floating window situation. The drag and drop screenshot thing is cool, but it is so limited in its use because I can't even paste screenshots on any other apps outside of the S-app world. Also if no one used CM on the Note lineup then there wouldn't be CM on the Note 3 and Note 2012, lol.
Some people...
C2Q said:
Actually Xposed is fairly close to replicating that multiwindow/floating window situation. The drag and drop screenshot thing is cool, but it is so limited in its use because I can't even paste screenshots on any other apps outside of the S-app world. Also if no one used CM on the Note lineup then there wouldn't be CM on the Note 3 and Note 2012, lol.
Some people...
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exposed is nowhere near Samsung. 50/50 only and has to be selected from recent apps window. doesnt support drag drop and no 4 way window. Exposed doesn't do all apps floating either. Drag and drop supports text and pictures, and text works in many applications, example
MAME is strictly a non-profit project. Its main p
C2Q said:
Actually Xposed is fairly close to replicating that multiwindow/floating window situation. The drag and drop screenshot thing is cool, but it is so limited in its use because I can't even paste screenshots on any other apps outside of the S-app world. Also if no one used CM on the Note lineup then there wouldn't be CM on the Note 3 and Note 2012, lol.
Some people...
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exposed is nowhere near Samsung. 50/50 only and has to be selected from recent apps window. doesnt support drag drop and no 4 way window. Exposed doesn't do all apps floating either. Drag and drop supports text and pictures, and text works in many applications, example
MAME is strictly a non-profit project. Its main purpose is to be a reference to the inner workings
of the emulated arcade machines. This is done both for educational purposes and for preservation
purposes, in order to prevent many historical games from disappearing forever once the hardware they
run on stops working. Of course, in order to preserve the games and demonstrate that the emulated
behavior matches the original, you must also be able to actually play the games. This is considered
a nice side effect, and is not MAME's primary focus.
Drag and drop text supports any app that uses the android system text copy and paste functions. as for as I can tell. Most text fields take it. And you can share screenshots almost anywhere. And what I meat was that very few people prefer the Hosp roms. Hence the giant number of TW Roms in comparison.
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Duly.noted said:
Great so find me a software replacement for any app in a floating window, 4 way split screen, a note pad that turns my handwriting into executable information, screen grabs I can easily edit, drag and drop, and a note app and finder that can even search for handwritten text. There is a reason nobody uses aosp or cyanogenmod on the note line up. Because it sucks at replicating touch wiz Very very badly. If all you wanted was a pressure sensitive pen and screen go get a nexus ten and a sketchbook and some pencils. It's the same thing right?
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I'm tired of arguing with you...
Go and have fun with your TW and let ME to choose how to use my tablet.