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after a while of owning an omnia
and being really angry with it stability wise ive decided to get orange to try and get me the HD
what im looking for though is compatability with my exhisting apps
coreplayer 1.25
ifonz (1)
and the s2 series
and youtubeplay
if anyone can give me any help itll be much appreciated
just for hgeneral use
bear with me please ive not had a htc for a few months
i need to get back into the swing
i can confirm the s2 stuff. for youtube there is a builtin youtube player which works good. Coreplayer works ok but has not hardware acceleration at the moment so videos will be quite laggy. better to stick with builtin videoplayer (but you have to convert to mp4 your videos to have acceptable results). check on this forum blackstone video encoding gui.
dunno for ifonz as i have not tried it myself but a lot of programs which work alike (winterface to name one) are ok
cheers for the help. im using divx at the moment and was hoping to carry on in the hd
its a bit of a bumme though as the wiki says
AMD (Formerly ATI) Imageon 2300 graphics integrated (32MB RAM reserved for graphics) supporting OpenGL ES 1.0 and ?Direct3D Mobile.
by the way ive made the order and ill get it tomorrow
good choice if you ask me
OK so I've searced for threads about this and done a wider google search but seem to get conflicting reports.
Does flash actually work on the Hero? Can you for example play videos from the BBC news website? If so what is the quality like?
Please can people post their experienced here .
firedup said:
OK so I've searced for threads about this and done a wider google search but seem to get conflicting reports.
Does flash actually work on the Hero? Can you for example play videos from the BBC news website? If so what is the quality like?
Please can people post their experienced here .
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flash performance in the browser is average IMHO
watching youtube videos in the youtube player is smooth as silk.
streetdaddy said:
flash performance in the browser is average IMHO
watching youtube videos in the youtube player is smooth as silk.
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which isnt flash....
In my opinion, flash is a fail on the hero. It was nice for HTC to include a basic player but all it can render is flash banners and that just makes the page load even slower. We all have to wait for flash 10 on mobiles.
streetdaddy said:
flash performance in the browser is average IMHO
watching youtube videos in the youtube player is smooth as silk.
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its because its mp4 mv4 3gp
firedup said:
OK so I've searced for threads about this and done a wider google search but seem to get conflicting reports.
Does flash actually work on the Hero? Can you for example play videos from the BBC news website? If so what is the quality like?
Please can people post their experienced here .
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We essentially have "Flash Lite"...it's an older version of flash and doesn't have all the capabilities of full flash. However, Adobe mentioned that they are working on a full featured version of flash in 2010.
the 5xx mhz 7200A is not really up to handling flash video, even low bandwidth youtube flash plays very choppy..
I also rather disable it, as it eats useless cpu cycles for displaying some banners.....
barryallott said:
which isnt flash....
In my opinion, flash is a fail on the hero. It was nice for HTC to include a basic player but all it can render is flash banners and that just makes the page load even slower. We all have to wait for flash 10 on mobiles.
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Flash 10 mobile won't solve this problem either. The processor of Hero (and many other smartphones like iPhone 3G) is not powerful enough to play desktop resolution flash video, not to mention HD. While Flash 10 mobile said that it supports GPU acceleration on paper, Hero (again, and many other smartphones) is using a several years old hardware that lacks a proper GPU for this kind of video acceleration. I would not expect Flash 10 mobile to bring miracles to current smartphones (with the exception of Pre, Droid, iPhone 3GS, and HD2 which uses much powerful CPU and GPU).
Flash lite on Hero is not completely useless though. There are some websites that I often visit have their navigation menus in flash. Without flash lite it is not possible to browse this website properly. Just forget about watching flash videos on the Hero, one should not expect a smartphone to be powerful enough to do something that netbooks are struggling to do.
tsekh501 said:
Flash 10 mobile won't solve this problem either. The processor of Hero (and many other smartphones like iPhone 3G) is not powerful enough to play desktop resolution flash video, not to mention HD. While Flash 10 mobile said that it supports GPU acceleration on paper, Hero (again, and many other smartphones) is using a several years old hardware that lacks a proper GPU for this kind of video acceleration. I would not expect Flash 10 mobile to bring miracles to current smartphones (with the exception of Pre, Droid, iPhone 3GS, and HD2 which uses much powerful CPU and GPU).
Flash lite on Hero is not completely useless though. There are some websites that I often visit have their navigation menus in flash. Without flash lite it is not possible to browse this website properly. Just forget about watching flash videos on the Hero, one should not expect a smartphone to be powerful enough to do something that netbooks are struggling to do.
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Not really, I used to watch flash video with my brother Touch Cruise 09 on skyfire browser. It was able to render flash movie smoothly.
pmleumas said:
Not really, I used to watch flash video with my brother Touch Cruise 09 on skyfire browser. It was able to render flash movie smoothly.
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I used to watch videos on sites using my touch diamond 2 with skyfire and the browser on the iPhone 3g with no issues, once you get past the rest of the crap and zoom onto the video itself its fine! Just wipes your battery out!
Just remember skyfire wasn't actually running flash on your mobile.
What skyfire does is renders the website on their own servers and streams the images to you.
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Just remember skyfire wasn't actually running flash on your mobile.
What skyfire does is renders the website on their own servers and streams the images to you.
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Very well said. The whole idea of Skyfire is based upon the fact that most mobile platforms are not powerful enough to handle fully-feature desktop webpages. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyfire_(web_browser)
Though I never understand why (even non-HD) Flash video requires that much computing power.
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It would appear, ambiently, that other Android handsets have some forms of support for Divx + Xvid - I say ambiently as this is from perusing Engadet, Pocket Lint etc etc I have also seen various threads looking at porting WM tools and attempting to address what I consider to be a major shortfall of Android so far, at least where HTC handsets are concerned. I, like many many others, have a major collection of Films using Xvid and Divx, with many using AC3 as the Audio codec. The 'solution' so far has been for wise individuals to point out the blindingly obvious and to convert using Handbrake, Xilisoft etc Here's the thing - why should I have to ? To me, it's tantamount to saying 'Just re-encode all your MP3's - it took me ages to rip them from CD, get the metatags correct, album art etc - no way !! Also, MPEG4 is rubbish - I've never liked it.
As an open slate, from an Applications point of view (can't stand this crApple use of the term 'Apps') the Hero is very good - the music player is so so - acceptable I guess. As a gaming platform, it looks to be improving with underlying code and SDK support improving all the time - yet there is this gaping hole in its multimedia 'arsenal' - that of movie support. I can't be the only one who sees this as very important. Much discussion on here is the distraction of the 'technical' - I don't think that everyone wants geek Linux on a Mobile - that's not sexy to most other than uber uber geeks. What is is Multimedia prowess - excellent Music, Film and Gaming - with the applications stuff surely running second fiddle to this. So, I'd like to get some discussion going to see if people feel the same way or this kind of movie support is seen as superfluous. Also, if people know of (other than the exceptionally crap yxflash) any Vxid Divx and AC3 support tools, installable codecs or applications I'd love to hear from you.
Regards,
Simon
Dude,
You need to cut out all the swearing!
I have used yxflash too - useless, laggy, not worth the download time!But, I have just been reading about the HTC Desire which apparently comes with Divx support out of the box! So, hopefully one of the genius devs on here will be able to get this working on our Hero's soon
Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous of Google to think this doesn't matter. This would have been an excellent feature to contrast with Apple. I was playing all sorts of codecs on winmo with the core media player years before android.
Firstly, it's a cellphone... it's not your ****ing TV or laptop.... you don't need all your mp3s and videos immediately ready on your phone. If you really HAVE to watch a video on the go you can easily convert it.
Ok, I know you didn't want to hear this.
Now, it's not Google's business to develop special apps. OEMs like HTC can include extra features by default and it's not so hard to make an app that uses ported native libraries.
Well, another thing: DivX is "dead". There's no DivX hardware decoder chip included in newer hardware, so even if someone makes an app it'll drain the battery or even worse, not run fast enough. Now, there's only limited space in a phone's hardware. You can't add all chips for all codecs. It's only natural that the manufacturers only choose the newest most advanced codec.
Quite clearly an idiot - most probably American
Woo - we spotted your 'attempts' at a windup - did you employ everything you learnt at kindergarten ? I mean - you're good - we've seen the classics:
Dismissal, condescension, 'superiority' - such insight, breathtaking
Just some suggestions that spring to mind, son: Cliffs, rope, 200 Paracetamol, guns - in fact anything that may cause you harm
It's food for thought
Hello!
I have 4 or 5 questions concerning Xperia Play.
Here they go;
1. How does it feel to read PDFs on Xperia Play; i mean is the screen large enough?
2. How is the web browsing experience on the phone? I mean there are websites out there that offer streamings - both audio and video. If anyone of you could check some website for me - for both audio and video, I would be very thankful.
3. I usually keep taking some notes on my phone and also regularly use any organizer applications; is there any such application on Xperia Play?
4. Can i play a game available for Xperia Play, on Xperia Arc?
5. How satisfied are you Play owners. Because I have heard some complaining that the cons of the phone outweigh its pros. Like poor display, poor colours, poor body material, no radio, incompetent typing and stupid on-screen QWERTY etc. etc. Please all except the radio; because I am sure of it. Some even have gone as far as saying that Android on Xperia Play is no better than Symbian on E7.
5. Assuming that I am interested in nothing but Excellent Web browsing, which would you prefer E7 or Play?
Please reply as soon as possible.
Thank you for your time.
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Hello!
I have 4 or 5 questions concerning Xperia Play.
Here they go;
1. How does it feel to read PDFs on Xperia Play; i mean is the screen large enough?
2. How is the web browsing experience on the phone? I mean there are websites out there that offer streamings - both audio and video. If anyone of you could check some website for me - for both audio and video, I would be very thankful.
3. I usually keep taking some notes on my phone and also regularly use any organizer applications; is there any such application on Xperia Play?
4. Can i play a game available for Xperia Play, on Xperia Arc?
5. How satisfied are you Play owners. Because I have heard some complaining that the cons of the phone outweigh its pros. Like poor display, poor colours, poor body material, no radio, incompetent typing and stupid on-screen QWERTY etc. etc. Please all except the radio; because I am sure of it. Some even have gone as far as saying that Android on Xperia Play is no better than Symbian on E7.
5. Assuming that I am interested in nothing but Excellent Web browsing, which would you prefer E7 or Play?
Please reply as soon as possible.
Thank you for your time.
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1) PDF reading is fine, i use EZ PDF Reader and have no problems
2) Streaming works fine, embedded videos in webpages also work great now flash player supports H/W acceration
3) ofcourse there is ..... this is android and unlike ios there is an app for everything lol
4) most xperia play optimised games have no on screen controlls .... so prob not
5) Are you having a laugh?? the play is an awesome device, the auto brightness problem is an issue but devs are working on switching it off ..... the play is well made, and the pad is really high quality, much higher than the PSP. The play does have the H/W for a radio but sony decided not to include it, im sure one of the devs will get it working before long. if you dont like the stock keyboard ..... download another wtf The play is quick too, because unlike most devices it uses DDR2 Ram and the GPS is awesome, best in any phone on the market.
6) I wouldnt piss on a nokia or symbian if it was on fire ....... so yeah
AndroHero said:
1) PDF reading is fine, i use EZ PDF Reader and have no problems
2) Streaming works fine, embedded videos in webpages also work great now flash player supports H/W acceration
3) ofcourse there is ..... this is android and unlike ios there is an app for everything lol
4) most xperia play optimised games have no on screen controlls .... so prob not
5) Are you having a laugh?? the play is an awesome device, the auto brightness problem is an issue but devs are working on switching it off ..... the play is well made, and the pad is really high quality, much higher than the PSP. The play does have the H/W for a radio but sony decided not to include it, im sure one of the devs will get it working before long. if you dont like the stock keyboard ..... download another wtf The play is quick too, because unlike most devices it uses DDR2 Ram and the GPS is awesome, best in any phone on the market.
6) I wouldnt piss on a nokia or symbian if it was on fire ....... so yeah
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Thanks for the reply.
Just a few more questions.
1. How's the multi-tasking.
2. How's the multi-touch.
3. If they have the radio hardware, can't we ourselves install one of the various radio applications available online?
4. Did you reply to my post using your Play?
5. Just do one favor on your XPERIA PLAY if you can. There is this website cityfm89(dot)(com). Main HomePage shows a link saying "Listen Live", click it, then click on DSL, then a Windows Player extension will appear which should start playing automatically in a minute or two. kindly confirm if this works fine at your end.
Thanks.
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Thanks for the reply.
Just a few more questions.
1. How's the multi-tasking.
2. How's the multi-touch.
3. If they have the radio hardware, can't we ourselves install one of the various radio applications available online?
Thanks.
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1) Multi tasking works well, and android handles the device resources well, i think i can usually have about 5 or 6 background applications running before android starts shutting down background processes.
2) Mulit-touch is good, the play supports 4 point multi-touch on the screen, and 4 point multi-touch on the touch pads
3) the radio H/W has been disabled at kernel level, so it need a dev to work out how to get it running, no doubt the CM team will have it working first as they are the only ones not building there kernels from SE kernel source
*edit* If a radio is so important, just download one of the many GPRS/3G/WIFI radios, they work just as good as old fashoned FM
TuneIn radio app has CityFM89 (Pakistan? ) on it's list, so you can just playback their stream using this app. (https://market.android.com/details?id=tunein.player&feature=search_result )
Multitasking is alright on this phone. It's lack of ram can be a bit of a bummer though, especially as some websites eat a lot of ram.
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1) Multi tasking works well, and android handles the device resources well, i think i can usually have about 5 or 6 background applications running before android starts shutting down background processes.
2) Mulit-touch is good, the play supports 4 point multi-touch on the screen, and 4 point multi-touch on the touch pads
3) the radio H/W has been disabled at kernel level, so it need a dev to work out how to get it running, no doubt the CM team will have it working first as they are the only ones not building there kernels from SE kernel source
*edit* If a radio is so important, just download one of the many GPRS/3G/WIFI radios, they work just as good as old fashoned FM
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But is that link working, if you could check; it is not for radio but to check if streaming works. And are you using this Forum on Play.
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TuneIn radio app has CityFM89 (Pakistan? ) on it's list, so you can just playback their stream using this app. ( )
Multitasking is alright on this phone. It's lack of ram can be a bit of a bummer though, especially as some websites eat a lot of ram.
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I just need to check if the streaming works for Web Browser. Yes Pakistan.
The RAM issue won't affect me, because the busiest multitasking I will is listening to a song while reading PDF and if I just receive a call during.
RI've had my tab for a few weeks now and am generally happy with it.
The things I'm pleased with:
Battery life - can't fault it so far
Build quality
App compatability - generally no issues
Web browsing and music are good
Screen is fantastic
Things I'm unhappy with:
The omission of an actual sd card slot is an annoyance
Stock u.i laggy (using adw now)
Mac compatablity is lacking.Kies is ok for it but by no means fantastic
My biggest disappointment has been video compatability or lack of it. A lot of my videos are now digitally encoded, some are ok on the tab, others have horrendous breakup. I've done as much research as possible into re-encoding these to suitable format but no matter what program and settings I use I can't get them to run properly. I'm getting to the stage of moving down the Ipad route. I'd post screenshots but apparentlly can't for another 8 posts
Did you get the large update to touchwiz recently? I actually started using the stock video player now, as I don't have any problems with the playback. Unless you are enconding in some off the wall format, I would think you wouldn't have any problems.
No on the touchwiz update as yet. I have limited net access in that some things are blocked. Glorious Afghanistan I'm checking every now and then as I can bypass somethings but it's not showing any updates.
In regards to video encoding I've used settings recommended in these forums and also trialled the pavtube program as well as numerous others including handbrake. Pulling my hair out over it!
i agree with you with the Video Support, coming from the Galaxy s phone the Tab almost doesn't play anything without converting and stuff on my phone it just play everything without a need for any video player other than stock
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RMy biggest disappointment has been video compatability or lack of it. A lot of my videos are now digitally encoded, some are ok on the tab, others have horrendous breakup. I've done as much research as possible into re-encoding these to suitable format but no matter what program and settings I use I can't get them to run properly. I'm getting to the stage of moving down the Ipad route. I'd post screenshots but apparentlly can't for another 8 posts
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I had the same issue as you - pretty much everything I tried to play on the GT would break up or have other issues. I was about to return the tablet when I tried transferring a video over WiFi rather than Kies for the Mac. To my surprised it played flawlessly.
So, I rather suspect that your problem is Kies performing some sort of erroneous conversion on the video as it is transferring the video across to the tablet.
I don't use Kies for the Mac anymore, and always transfer files via WiFi, and seldom have any playback issues now.
Regards,
Dave
If you transfer photos/movies from a MAC via the current version of kies then these get corrupted...
I'll try the wifi tip cheers. Although a friend has a 5 year old laptop that I tried the converted videos on and the same breakup occured through vlc. No probs with any of the encoded videos through vlc on my mac pro though.
Tried the wifi tip and works Shame it's a little on the slow side but it'll do till there's a better way
Kies is definately broken for the mac, it hasn't corrupted every video I transferred but enough to really annoy!
Cheers for the tip
The touchwiz update is almost perfect IMHO, I had lags with vanilla ui but since twz update, I enjoy my tab except for one thing:
My fingers literally hurt from overuse of gab10.1!
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The Tegra 2 is not capable to decoding most HD video. The video accelerator (seperate from the GPU) is simply too slow and can not decode most h.264 profiles other than profiles which are obsolete (baseline for example)
Sorry folks, its not a problem with the actual software, its the Tegra 2 which is simply too slow to decode much of todays HD video.
Agreed. As an owner of both a Captivate and Tab 10.1 I am less than impressed with the video performance of this Tab. My Cappy blows it away.
Now the only thing the Tab has over the Cappy is support for legacy DIVX codecs. With the latest update all of my DIVX movies work. But the Cappy still runs laps over the Tab. A shame really. One step forward, two steps back.
You have to understand that Tegra 2 is a very old chip despite tablets just being released due to honeycomb delays.
All future tablet chipsets like the Tegra 3 and others will be able to decode any HD content without performance issues.
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My biggest disappointment has been video compatability or lack of it. A lot of my videos are now digitally encoded, some are ok on the tab, others have horrendous breakup. I've done as much research as possible into re-encoding these to suitable format but no matter what program and settings I use I can't get them to run properly. I'm getting to the stage of moving down the Ipad route. I'd post screenshots but apparentlly can't for another 8 posts
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Use Dice player, and u will see how all videos will played nice!
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You have to understand that Tegra 2 is a very old chip despite tablets just being released due to honeycomb delays.
All future tablet chipsets like the Tegra 3 and others will be able to decode any HD content without performance issues.
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I won't count on that. The chipset used in Captivate is even older than Tegra 2. It's all about the drivers and matuality of the OS. HoneyComb just don't have much video codec support to be hornest. Tegra 1 chip in my Zune player plays 720p video better than Tegra 2 in my Tab. And there are 3rd party player app that can use Tegra 2 hardware acceleration to play videos that stock player can't. This is all software limitations in stock HC. Even when Tegra 3 comes out, HC as is will have the same limitation unless Google gets its act together.
I use dice player now, and my tab plays anything I throw at it. 1080p MKVs and avi files play awesome, even supports the multiple audio tracks and subtitles. No complaints here.
I personally don't need any more power in the tablet, it does everything I want it to do flawlessly.