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HTC Hero poor performance (3D, flash, etc)

I've tried many 3D games, for example:
- Speed Forge 3D
- Quake 1
- Quake 2
- TinyWarz
None of them runs perfectly.
So if you want to be able some smooth 3D games, just pass HTC Hero, take a look at Motorola Milestone (powered by 600Mhz ARM Cortex) it performs way better (even if it has 2x2 larger resolution)
Some comparison videos
hero: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTDdiq21EOc
milestone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7qbqSnLU0
Qualcomm MSM7200A 528 MHz sucks (as i've haven't already know this.. my fault). It really show it's weakness when you run several task at the same time: download someting, listen to music and try to browse the internet/navigate to menus, etc.
I load websites on the browser quite often and the experience is not snappy on complex sites. For example the scrolling in pocketnow.com is so slow..
Beside of the CPU, HTC Hero is a cool phone. Too bad that HTC chosed this poor cpu.

i dont find the phone that bad on games. websites are also fine, on the pocketnow.com site you mentioned i can shoot about the page with blistering speed and i mean drag my finger all over fast with no lag..
Have you tried a different rom?

Speed Forge 3D is fine on my Hero. mcr 3.2 b5

@anarchyuk I haven't tried any ROM. My hero had already the latest HTC firmware..
@deejay300 by fine, do you mean like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSxGrjxuyEU . Compare with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7qbqSnLU0 #0.22
You will see the difference

Much better than the hero video. I would say that that was pretty shocking in that first video. Obviously the hero isn't quite as smooth as the droid but it was pretty close.

Pretty much the same as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK_d...E2D406D9&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=19

Yeah, poor 3D and 90% of the users don't care.
If you want to play 3D game, buy a console and let people that love the agenda, contacts, GPS, mail, Internet enjoying their device.
They are as you said more strong and better devices for games! Buy them.

What I don't understand is why you even post such a topic, purely to bash the qualcomm cpu?
Reading you're sig makes it even more funny that you nag about the hero, knowing it wouldn't be able to outrun any phone with the same cpu.
So if you expected more it's you're own fault.
As you said 90% of the hero users did know about the 3d performance of the hero and don't nag. Are satisified. Those people thought before they bought.
You obviously didn't, don't come and nag to us about it...

There was a hope that the this qualcomm cpu run better in Android (and as general UI is smoother than WM).
I really don't understand why people just told the good parts of a device. The people should know that htc hero doesn't renders flash video perfectly, for example.
I like Hero, I really like the phone (even if it has many lacks, hope it will be fixed soon) but I want to tell others about its negative aspects. So people which want pure performance should pass this phone.
@profete162 let's be real. I surf a lot and the internet experience is not super great. The load time is not super good. Plus, flash experiance is far from perfect. Not to mention that on some sites the scrolling is soo laggin at least on mine (for eg: pocketnow.com). But yes, internet experience it's way better that the from my ex-WM (Touch Pro) one. I don't use the phone primary for games, but a nice 3D game from time to time it would be nice.
@deejay300 yes, still not smooth..

DSF said:
There was a hope that the this qualcomm cpu run better in Android (and as general UI is smoother than WM).
I really don't understand why people just told the good parts of a device. The people should know that htc hero doesn't renders flash video perfectly, for example.
I like Hero, I really like the phone (even if it has many lacks, hope it will be fixed soon) but I want to tell others about its negative aspects. So people which want pure performance should pass this phone.
@profete162 let's be real. I surf a lot and the internet experience is not super great. The load time is not super good. Plus, flash experiance is far from perfect. Not to mention that on some sites the scrolling is soo laggin at least on mine (for eg: pocketnow.com). But yes, internet experience it's way better that the from my ex-WM (Touch Pro) one. I don't use the phone primary for games, but a nice 3D game from time to time it would be nice.
@deejay300 yes, still not smooth..
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I think you should try a custom rom instead of the crappy stock htc one! adobe are rumoured to be releasing new versions of flash for certain handsets all the time that will work much better with web flash. So you never know you might get a better experience soon. Not so much if you go by http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/26/flash-10-1-snubbing-non-armv7-android-devices-too/ as the Qualcomm® MSM7200A is arm9!

I'm waiting the official 2.1 update from HTC, there are rumours that it will be released somewhere in march
And about the Flash 10 .. I don't know..
No, the HTC Hero will not be supported b/c it does not have the correct Android OS version and its chipset is not powerful enough. We require a device with an ARM v7 (Cortex) processor. Examples include the Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets and TI OMAP3 series.
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http://gizmodo.com/5480985/why-most-current-android-phones-will-never-get-flash-101

DSF said:
There was a hope that the this qualcomm cpu run better in Android (and as general UI is smoother than WM).
I really don't understand why people just told the good parts of a device. The people should know that htc hero doesn't renders flash video perfectly, for example.
I like Hero, I really like the phone (even if it has many lacks, hope it will be fixed soon) but I want to tell others about its negative aspects. So people which want pure performance should pass this phone.
@profete162 let's be real. I surf a lot and the internet experience is not super great. The load time is not super good. Plus, flash experiance is far from perfect. Not to mention that on some sites the scrolling is soo laggin at least on mine (for eg: pocketnow.com). But yes, internet experience it's way better that the from my ex-WM (Touch Pro) one. I don't use the phone primary for games, but a nice 3D game from time to time it would be nice.
@deejay300 yes, still not smooth..
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I loved the HTC Hero - but the performance of its video playback was one of the reasons I quit and bought the Google Nexus One, which addresses just about all of the shortcomings. On the Nexus all my video podcasts and itunes music videos play without a glitch. Different roms were great but didn't solve some of the core performance issues. Still, the Hero was the greatest phone I had up until last year (and I had a lot!). It's great how these phones just keep getting better!

I dont see any lagging on my phone with these games.
even not with movies from torrent sites wich are mp4, doesnt matter what size, framerate or whatever they were encoded on, as long as it was mp4 or m4v it was great.
just downloaded the movies as an IPOD movie

winmo user: should i buy leo?

hey, i'm pretty new here, but not to windows mobile.
i've been using winmo 5 and 6 for years and it served me very well.
normally, i use my PSP to watch videos. after ripping DVDs, i need to convert it to a 480x272 AVC MP4 and its really time consuming on my 5 year old pc.
and after converting, i cannot turn off subtitles on the PSP, system doesn't support it.
then, i saw this phone with huge screen and yeah, in screen size and resolution:
nokia etc. phones < iPhone < PSP < HD2
hmm.
i researched and learnt that i still need to convert files on this machine. really? c'mon!
then i tried a dvd rip file on my P535, guess what, with 0.5GHz processor speed and no hardware help, it played flawlessly on TCPMP, modded for SRT subtitles.
but, i've read that not all apps work on HD2.
won't i be able to copy my TCPMP to it and just play?
my apps like rdcalc, airomap, coreplayer, adobe reader, garmin, age of empires, pocketgba... won't work? doesn't it run same OS, with even better specs?
another question, i see that many people is excited awaiting win phone 7.
it looks like some kind of iPhone OS, which i don't like.
is it really different than current winmos or should i wait for the new HD with phone 7 ? will i be able to do things currently i do now? why everyone is talking about it while it doesn't even support multitasking? do you think it will be hacked so it will be similar to current winmos?
and, a last question, is this phone easy to carry? man, it's huge!
thanks all for your help.

hd2
Phone is not bad at all to carry. I'm not upgrading to wm7, not interested, too many things I don't like, I'm happy with hd2 wm 6.5.. Other question, don't know, sorry. This is by far best phone I've ever had, "I have had lots""

wm 6.5 is going to be a dying breed but still has lots of apps. android seems to be on the rise and is getting more apps. iphone is still going strong.
even tho i got an hd2 just recently, i bought it because i can still run the apps that i have on my old sony x1a.
it really all about what you want to do with it now and maybe down the road a little. do research well before you commit to any phone you buy, especially if you buy one without a contract.

Hi!
I have both the HTC HD2 and the HTC Desire Android phone (my first Android, I have had a lot of WinMo phones though), and there is no doubt that I prefer the Desire over the HD2. I love the screen of the HD2 though, and would like to see that on an Android soon (supersonic maybe, if it ever comes to Europe). The Android OS seems much more integrated and the available apps in the market are great.

535 said:
i researched and learnt that i still need to convert files on this machine. really? c'mon!
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coreplayer on the hd2 can play divx and xvid video without any problems. coreplayer on my hd2 cannot play high definition 720p x264 video - the audio plays fine but the video is about 1fps.
tcpmp on the leo struggled to play the regular divx files, presumably a codec issue, but if the videos are converted to a smaller resolution/bit rate, then tcpmp can play them fine. tcpmp can't play the 720p videos at all.
535 said:
but, i've read that not all apps work on HD2.
won't i be able to copy my TCPMP to it and just play?
my apps like rdcalc, airomap, coreplayer, adobe reader, garmin, age of empires, pocketgba... won't work? doesn't it run same OS, with even better specs?
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The HD2 can run coreplayer, adobe reader and tcpmp, as I run these programs. As for the others, I'd be amazed if they don't run. I think what you have read is wrong.
535 said:
and, a last question, is this phone easy to carry? man, it's huge!
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No it's not. I have big hands and it's still a bit too big. You may have a different experience and not be bothered about that, but I am. Walking and texting isn't a good idea for me as it needs 2 hands to operate it and I'm always worried about it slipping out of my hands. I use a smaller phone (Nokia X6) during the week when I go to work.

so, many winmo apps can be run without problems?
i know it's not possible to run ordinary TCPMP on leo.
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... The Android OS seems much more integrated and the available apps in the market are great.
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i'm afraid of "too many versions with are incompatible with each other" in that OS. i mean, the new version will come with flash support but oldies wont get it? not nice.

535 said:
i know it's not possible to run ordinary TCPMP on leo.
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I have TCPMP 0.72RC1 ARM PPC installed on my HD2.

ah, so that means i didnt do my homework after i've read "messed GUI" and "buttons dont work" messages, i think i got over afraid ...
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...tcpmp on the leo struggled to play the regular divx files, presumably a codec issue, but if the videos are converted to a smaller resolution/bit rate, then tcpmp can play them fine...
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it uses only software decoding, right? i'd expect same results on all machines.
so, videos that my old P535 play fine is not always going to be played on leo?

I have ran into only 2 old old games so far that I was not able to play on HD2 - apps wise everything ran perfectly so far... and I got installed over 200 (currently have about 30 installed).

Viewing HTML5 videos on youtube on 2.1 +

If you go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 and press the opt in link at the bottom on your phone you should then be able to view a variety of videos on youtube, html5 videos run much better than resource hogging Flash..
try this video to see if it works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siOHh0uzcuY

You are wrong, flash actually outperforms HTML5 and consumes less battery power
http://www.blackcj.com/blog/2010/09/17/flash-outperforms-html5-on-mobile-devices/

woopdy doo you can show one benchmark using one phone in a comparison, there are hundreds of html5 vs flash comparisons online and all show different results on different platforms and hardware, and on mobile devices this is down to devices having hardware accelerartion, without this HTML5 really does wipe the floor with it, play a flash video on an atom n270 then play a HTML5 video and see what the difference is on cpu usage..

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woopdy doo you can show one benchmark using one phone in a comparison, there are hundreds of html5 vs flash comparisons online and all show different results on different platforms and hardware, and on mobile devices this is down to devices having hardware accelerartion, without this HTML5 really does wipe the floor with it, play a flash video on an atom n270 then play a HTML5 video and see what the difference is on cpu usage..
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why have you suddenly gone off in a tangent and comparing flash on a computer. Thought you were talking about the SGS here....?

psp888 said:
why have you suddenly gone off in a tangent and comparing flash on a computer. Thought you were talking about phones....?
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Yeah and it applys to all devices, if you fine tune a product i.e the flagg ship 2.2 froyo device to play a video and optimize it then it will out perform. This does not mean on all devices with varying cpu's that this will be the case, the evidence shows that flash is not an all round good video codec/compression method due to it being bloated and certain variations, hence why apple are concentrating on HTML 5, I think we should let people decide the performance difference..

anarchyuk said:
Yeah and it applys to all devices, if you fine tune a product i.e the flagg ship 2.2 froyo device to play a video and optimize it then it will out perform. This does not mean on all devices with varying cpu's that this will be the case, the evidence shows that flash is not an all round good video codec/compression method due to it being bloated and certain variations, hence why apple are concentrating on HTML 5, I think we should let people decide the performance difference..
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you're drinking too much apple cool aid
flash performs actually very very well lately (computers & phones alike)
html5 support would be nice for compatibility, but so far, html5 browsers actually use more power to play videos because they're not as optimized as flash is yet.
Truth is sometimes shocking

anarchyuk said:
Yeah and it applys to all devices, if you fine tune a product i.e the flagg ship 2.2 froyo device to play a video and optimize it then it will out perform. This does not mean on all devices with varying cpu's that this will be the case, the evidence shows that flash is not an all round good video codec/compression method due to it being bloated and certain variations, hence why apple are concentrating on HTML 5, I think we should let people decide the performance difference..
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Bloated? Really? I love how people throw that term around. That works on digg perhaps, where people accept bloat as a valid answer, but the term has no distinct meaning. What do you mean? Because programs can have plenty of functionality and still perform as fast as one without.
There really is no reason why flash couldn't run as fast as normal HTML5, especially since neither run fully compiled code. And if you basically read the stream and dump it on the GPU for processing, in both cases, it's mostly done the same way probably.

Single core 1 ghz Thunderbolt vs Dual Core EEE pad running flash

Why in gods name does my phone run flash about twice as fast as this vaunted dual core nvidia processor? Honeycomb 3.1 should blow gingerbread away (leaked build).
Is there some kind of bug or something?

I'm not a scientist or anything but I'm guessing the fact that it's rendering nearly three times as many pixels across a 12" screen running a new version of Android that hasn't been fully optimized for the hardware yet might have something to do with it...
I guess it could be a bug if by bug you mean perfectly normal and fully expected when early adopting new hardware / software concepts. If you'd like it to be a more polished solution like the iPad just disable flash and tada super great browsing experience. If you want it to do what no other system with its specs can do you can probably expect a few developmental hiccups.

Different devices will run differently. My wifes htc Legend runs much better than my htc Legend and she had Android 2.1, while I was running the "super fast" Cyanogenmod with Froyo... now that was a let down! LOL
Are there tasks that your Transformer does that TOO SLOW? Everything that I do seems to be quite snappy, but I guess it depends what you are doing.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

are you comparing fullscreen playback or native rez in the browser. if fullscreen then yes the asus is rendering A LOT more pixels.
also keep in mind that video playback is not the most effective use of dual processors. yes it's probably multithreaded but only to split video from audio and perhaps bufferring. Video decoding itself is rarely successfully performed on multiple threads. So you have 1 1ghz core decoding the video and the other buffering and decoding audio(just a guess). That really doesn't give the dual core a huge advantage over the single core.

Never use Flash as a benchmark when comparing the performance of different chipsets. It's not the fault of NVIDIA that Adobe is incredibly slow to optimize their products for the latest hardware. Honeycomb is still a new product as well, so there's a good chance that some of the problem is on Google's end as well.
Chill out and have some patience.

To piggyback...is there a way to set a preference of HTML video rather than flash, and only use flash as a fallback? Maybe that should be another thread.

h00ligan said:
To piggyback...is there a way to set a preference of HTML video rather than flash, and only use flash as a fallback? Maybe that should be another thread.
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HTML5 video is handled by the servers of whatever website you're visiting, not on the tablet itself. To better your chances that the servers will default to HTML5 video when visiting them, you can change your user agent to Tablet or Mobile-phone. But if the site was built exclusively using Flash, there is no way to force it to render in HTML5.

http://www.androidbugle.com/2011/05/flash-103-performance-test.html
Check out the video I did comparing Flash performance on 3 different chipsets.
I believe HTC and Qualcomm worked together to optimized Flash out of the box for the stock browser.
The 1GHz Second Gen Snapdragon in the HTC Incredible S (same as in Thunderbolt) spanked every other phone I tested (including the Tegra 2 powered Atrix).

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HTML5 video is handled by the servers of whatever website you're visiting, not on the tablet itself. To better your chances that the servers will default to HTML5 video when visiting them, you can change your user agent to Tablet or Mobile-phone. But if the site was built exclusively using Flash, there is no way to force it to render in HTML5.
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Right, I underrstand that... I guess I should have asked more specifically ifthere was a hack around it :/
I can change my ipad's browser agent and still default to HTML 5 video..well specifically embedded YouTube videos.

h00ligan said:
Right, I underrstand that... I guess I should have asked more specifically ifthere was a hack around it :/
I can change my ipad's browser agent and still default to HTML 5 video..well specifically embedded YouTube videos.
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that's because
Spoiler
iPad has no flash

seshmaru said:
that's because
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iPad has no flash
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And the Youtube app runs on HTML5, on both Android and iOS. The difference between the two is that embedded Youtube in the browser in iOS utilizes a plugin from the Youtube app to allow the HTML5 stream to play, whereas in Android the browser defaults to Flash for embedded Youtube content, and will only play in HTML5 if you choose to open the video in the external Youtube app. That's Google's way of allowing you to keep your options open.

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that's because
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What's your point? Did you read my initial question? There's no need to act like a snot.
Let's rephrase this.
For sites that have been optimized for HTML 5 video playback, is there a way to force that to load first, while retaining flash as a fallback option? If I set my iPad browser to desktop it still chooses HTML 5 video playback, so there must be something going on besides browser identification string, otherwise it would show a missing plugin icon.

h00ligan said:
What's your point? Did you read my initial question? There's no need to act like a snot.
Let's rephrase this.
For sites that have been optimized for HTML 5 video playback, is there a way to force that to load first, while retaining flash as a fallback option? If I set my iPad browser to desktop it still chooses HTML 5 video playback, so there must be something going on besides browser identification string, otherwise it would show a missing plugin icon.
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I believe there is a browser setting called "flash on demand" or something.

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I believe there is a browser setting called "flash on demand" or something.
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correct, however the page will default to an unloaded flash plugin even if there may be an html 5 version available in my experience... :/

h00ligan said:
What's your point? Did you read my initial question? There's no need to act like a snot.
Let's rephrase this.
For sites that have been optimized for HTML 5 video playback, is there a way to force that to load first, while retaining flash as a fallback option? If I set my iPad browser to desktop it still chooses HTML 5 video playback, so there must be something going on besides browser identification string, otherwise it would show a missing plugin icon.
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If you set your browser to an ipad user agent, you will get HTML5 videos in place of flash, but none of them seem to work OR very few will load in the native video player - nothing like the ipad experience, but it semi-works...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Thanks for the info....I wonder if this is a result of the lack of hardware acceleration?

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Thanks for the info....I wonder if this is a result of the lack of hardware acceleration?
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I am thinking this is the case... Anyone know if kernel source being released can fix this issue?

It s a well known fact that flash is not optimized for tablets. I forgot what article I saw it in, I think it was engadget and the CEO verbally bypassed that specific question. Another item is the real estate on a tablet compared to a phone..alot more ...a hell of alot more..depending on how your user agent is set up and also what type of gpu is on it. I had to revert on my nook flash 10.1 because they took out hardware acceleration for it in 10.2+. If you do a full screen mode on a phone or even smaller...it is fantastic..do that on a tablet...it is okay.

If you're having the issue with the stock browser, try DolphinHD. It does media streaming better than the stock usually.

I also noticed that my G2 at 1.5ghz can almost match my TF at 1.6Ghz in Linpack.
Imagine 2 higher clocked processors getting matched by 1 lower clocked cpu.
I think the Snapdragon is simply better.

[Q] Xperia Play Browsing !!!

Hello!
I have 4 or 5 questions concerning Xperia Play.
Here they go;
1. How does it feel to read PDFs on Xperia Play; i mean is the screen large enough?
2. How is the web browsing experience on the phone? I mean there are websites out there that offer streamings - both audio and video. If anyone of you could check some website for me - for both audio and video, I would be very thankful.
3. I usually keep taking some notes on my phone and also regularly use any organizer applications; is there any such application on Xperia Play?
4. Can i play a game available for Xperia Play, on Xperia Arc?
5. How satisfied are you Play owners. Because I have heard some complaining that the cons of the phone outweigh its pros. Like poor display, poor colours, poor body material, no radio, incompetent typing and stupid on-screen QWERTY etc. etc. Please all except the radio; because I am sure of it. Some even have gone as far as saying that Android on Xperia Play is no better than Symbian on E7.
5. Assuming that I am interested in nothing but Excellent Web browsing, which would you prefer E7 or Play?
Please reply as soon as possible.
Thank you for your time.

Jack Shepard said:
Hello!
I have 4 or 5 questions concerning Xperia Play.
Here they go;
1. How does it feel to read PDFs on Xperia Play; i mean is the screen large enough?
2. How is the web browsing experience on the phone? I mean there are websites out there that offer streamings - both audio and video. If anyone of you could check some website for me - for both audio and video, I would be very thankful.
3. I usually keep taking some notes on my phone and also regularly use any organizer applications; is there any such application on Xperia Play?
4. Can i play a game available for Xperia Play, on Xperia Arc?
5. How satisfied are you Play owners. Because I have heard some complaining that the cons of the phone outweigh its pros. Like poor display, poor colours, poor body material, no radio, incompetent typing and stupid on-screen QWERTY etc. etc. Please all except the radio; because I am sure of it. Some even have gone as far as saying that Android on Xperia Play is no better than Symbian on E7.
5. Assuming that I am interested in nothing but Excellent Web browsing, which would you prefer E7 or Play?
Please reply as soon as possible.
Thank you for your time.
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1) PDF reading is fine, i use EZ PDF Reader and have no problems
2) Streaming works fine, embedded videos in webpages also work great now flash player supports H/W acceration
3) ofcourse there is ..... this is android and unlike ios there is an app for everything lol
4) most xperia play optimised games have no on screen controlls .... so prob not
5) Are you having a laugh?? the play is an awesome device, the auto brightness problem is an issue but devs are working on switching it off ..... the play is well made, and the pad is really high quality, much higher than the PSP. The play does have the H/W for a radio but sony decided not to include it, im sure one of the devs will get it working before long. if you dont like the stock keyboard ..... download another wtf The play is quick too, because unlike most devices it uses DDR2 Ram and the GPS is awesome, best in any phone on the market.
6) I wouldnt piss on a nokia or symbian if it was on fire ....... so yeah

AndroHero said:
1) PDF reading is fine, i use EZ PDF Reader and have no problems
2) Streaming works fine, embedded videos in webpages also work great now flash player supports H/W acceration
3) ofcourse there is ..... this is android and unlike ios there is an app for everything lol
4) most xperia play optimised games have no on screen controlls .... so prob not
5) Are you having a laugh?? the play is an awesome device, the auto brightness problem is an issue but devs are working on switching it off ..... the play is well made, and the pad is really high quality, much higher than the PSP. The play does have the H/W for a radio but sony decided not to include it, im sure one of the devs will get it working before long. if you dont like the stock keyboard ..... download another wtf The play is quick too, because unlike most devices it uses DDR2 Ram and the GPS is awesome, best in any phone on the market.
6) I wouldnt piss on a nokia or symbian if it was on fire ....... so yeah
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Thanks for the reply.
Just a few more questions.
1. How's the multi-tasking.
2. How's the multi-touch.
3. If they have the radio hardware, can't we ourselves install one of the various radio applications available online?
4. Did you reply to my post using your Play?
5. Just do one favor on your XPERIA PLAY if you can. There is this website cityfm89(dot)(com). Main HomePage shows a link saying "Listen Live", click it, then click on DSL, then a Windows Player extension will appear which should start playing automatically in a minute or two. kindly confirm if this works fine at your end.
Thanks.

Jack Shepard said:
Thanks for the reply.
Just a few more questions.
1. How's the multi-tasking.
2. How's the multi-touch.
3. If they have the radio hardware, can't we ourselves install one of the various radio applications available online?
Thanks.
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1) Multi tasking works well, and android handles the device resources well, i think i can usually have about 5 or 6 background applications running before android starts shutting down background processes.
2) Mulit-touch is good, the play supports 4 point multi-touch on the screen, and 4 point multi-touch on the touch pads
3) the radio H/W has been disabled at kernel level, so it need a dev to work out how to get it running, no doubt the CM team will have it working first as they are the only ones not building there kernels from SE kernel source
*edit* If a radio is so important, just download one of the many GPRS/3G/WIFI radios, they work just as good as old fashoned FM

TuneIn radio app has CityFM89 (Pakistan? ) on it's list, so you can just playback their stream using this app. (https://market.android.com/details?id=tunein.player&feature=search_result )
Multitasking is alright on this phone. It's lack of ram can be a bit of a bummer though, especially as some websites eat a lot of ram.

AndroHero said:
1) Multi tasking works well, and android handles the device resources well, i think i can usually have about 5 or 6 background applications running before android starts shutting down background processes.
2) Mulit-touch is good, the play supports 4 point multi-touch on the screen, and 4 point multi-touch on the touch pads
3) the radio H/W has been disabled at kernel level, so it need a dev to work out how to get it running, no doubt the CM team will have it working first as they are the only ones not building there kernels from SE kernel source
*edit* If a radio is so important, just download one of the many GPRS/3G/WIFI radios, they work just as good as old fashoned FM
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But is that link working, if you could check; it is not for radio but to check if streaming works. And are you using this Forum on Play.

metcard said:
TuneIn radio app has CityFM89 (Pakistan? ) on it's list, so you can just playback their stream using this app. ( )
Multitasking is alright on this phone. It's lack of ram can be a bit of a bummer though, especially as some websites eat a lot of ram.
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I just need to check if the streaming works for Web Browser. Yes Pakistan.
The RAM issue won't affect me, because the busiest multitasking I will is listening to a song while reading PDF and if I just receive a call during.