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Why Apps2SD is such a BAD IDEA (tm)

This is in the Wiki, but thought I'd repost it here for all those who ask the same silly questions.
What Apps2SD does is shift all of your user applications (that would normally be installed on your phone's /data partition) and moves them onto a specially formatted ext2/ext3 partition on your SD card. This gives you the ability to install more apps than you would normally have the ability to. Sounds great huh? What's so wrong with that?
On the G1/Dream/ADP this app is a must - those phones have only a 256MB flash and only have 75MB for their data partition - it's
outrageous. Apps2SD/Cache2SD are great as they offload it the stuff to the SD card and reduce the limitation.
The HTC Magic (both 32A or 32B) and Hero are the next generation of Android devices though, and these phones have twice the flash of the previous generation (512MB). A large chunk of that (300MB) went to the /data partition, so installing apps isn't an issue.
There's also a number of real disadvantages to using http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Apps2SD&action=createApps2SD:
It will probably slow your apps down as it's thrashing the sd more - even if you have a class 6
you'll reduce the life of your sd card
you won't be able to remove your SD card/mount it on your pc if you wanted to without your phone crashing/apps dying/hanging/etc.
if your SD card is dodgy in the slightest then it will also cause the above.. crashing/hanging/random coredumps, etc - and you'll probably just blame the rom you're using rather than realising it's your SD card.
In the same vein, CompCache/Swap space/Swapper, et al are just as silly if you're a 32A/Hero owner.
Even on the G1/32B's it offers very dubious performance improvement - and there's no need with the 32A/Hero as you have plenty of ram. If you do install it you have all the same negative points I just listed above apply there too as they each use your SD card in much the same way.

Very old.
That post is quite outdated. The information there is relevant and fluid; however, whoever still follows that thread as being something to "take heed" to prior to allowing transfer of their APPS, CACHE, and DATA to the SD card they use...is entirely too broke to even own an Android-based platform.
SD cards nowadays; even the more efficient ones typically cost less than $30, including high-end retailers such as Best Buy and Fry's Electronics.
Who even worries about that crap anymore? That's such nonsense if you ask me. The fact is:
- Even if you could prove with some form of an exact science that utilizing those abilities and storing various amounts of data on your SD card was remotely harmful and could "wear down" (thus lessening the lifespan of the card) it would show that these results would be inconclusive until about a FULL YEAR had gone by.
Run-on sentence. I'm aware. But I had a point to make.

I just finished trying out app2sd in my magic for a few days and everything ran noticibly slower. I also disliked the notion of taking apps offline while copying via usb. I think this article raises valid points. *If* you aren't running out of room, then just leave it. You gain absolutely nothing.
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Hahahaha! I was reading for hours and hours of confusing tricks as how to do app2sd and whatever. Now comes a totally destroying tale!
I think ita worth it for a learning session to experiment.
My experience with previous sevaral Symbian phones, as most of them allowed applications to be installed on sd cards and nothing ever went wrong.Fring, Nimbuzz,Maps etc were on almost all times .Especvially Fring or Nimnuzz.
I like mu HTC Magic and put Enom's latest Tmobile ROM.It is fast and stable.Why couldny Android writers gave us the choice in first place- to select you appliocation to install in phone or storage memory like Symbian or WM? Is it something they forgot? Can it be included in future major updates?

It's not a concern of mine.
To put my response earlier quite simply:
I have 4-5 microSDHC cards laying around. All of which are Class 6. I'm not really concerned about "killing" an SD card sooner than it expected. It's an SD card for Christ sake.

Radix999 said:
[*]you'll reduce the life of your sd card
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I don't think it's a big deal because nowadays most flash memory come with lifetime or at least 5 years warranty. And by the time my 16GB microsd dies, I probably can buy another one for less than 10 bucks.

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I don't think it's a big deal because nowadays most flash memory come with lifetime or at least 5 years warranty. And by the time my 16GB microsd dies, I probably can buy another one for less than 10 bucks.
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Pretty sure the cost of the card is the last thing to worry about. What if you have pics, docs, video that you haven't backed up for some reason and it takes all your info with it. Besides are people actually installing that many apps? I can't see needing or using more than what the phone can store.
Clinton

Money ain't nothing but paper.
Yessssir.
I could make it rain.
SD cards are so cheap. What's $20 to most people...nothing! Enough said. Thread closed. Lol.

While the cost of a micro SD card is neglible, the damage to your phone when you lose all your apps, preferences, settings and get random hangs, errors, slowdowns while the SD card dies IS an issue.
And who cares if you have a dozen or even hundreds of microsd cards - once you've configured Apps2SD then you're prettymuch stuck with the one you have - try and remove it and be prepared for a screwed up phone.
All this hassle for such little benefit!

Wow.
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While the cost of a micro SD card is neglible, the damage to your phone when you lose all your apps, preferences, settings and get random hangs, errors, slowdowns while the SD card dies IS an issue.
And who cares if you have a dozen or even hundreds of microsd cards - once you've configured Apps2SD then you're prettymuch stuck with the one you have - try and remove it and be prepared for a screwed up phone.
All this hassle for such little benefit!
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Bro, common sense...
BACK YOUR **** UP AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE.
Problem averted. I'm a busy guy, but find plenty of time to periodically, whether it's bi-weekly, etc. to back everything up.
We're gravy.

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As was said, I doubt it will really matter.
And if it does... I prefer to down my SD card, which I can replace (and normally, not all recorded data vanish suddenly if it wears down ! you should only see total memory decreasing, and maybe loosing "some" data)...
....instead of my phone internal memory which I won't be able to replace at all !
I have a magic so for now I can live without apps2SD, though even now I am forced to make choices to get some free space.

Here are some of the issues I had running Apps2SD on my G1:
Backup for root users wouldn't backup apps that were on the SDcard.
If I unmounted or removed the card even with the phone off, many apps would disappear or become corrupt.
Sometimes things would go wrong and the only fix was to reformat and partition the SD card. I had big problems when I was testing Hero roms. I used two different cards and they both had similar issues even though they checked out fine.
Here is why I love Apps2SD:
There are so many great apps for Android and the memory limitations of the G1 would have kept me from being able to give dazzling demos.
Just getting it set up before all the tutorials were available taught me plenty about rooting around the Android guts.
It was really cool to be able to say "oh, you're out of memory? I've got 72MB free with 80 apps installed, but it's no big deal."
I say go ahead and try it out, but be prepared for the worst. I don't remember if Nandroid backups got the apps from the SDcard. I got a Magic PVT 32a with 288MB and never looked back.
Enjoy!

Bwhaha!
I don't back my computer up very often? Hard Drive....What Hard Drive? BIOS is all I got.... Pretty funny!

I don't think anyone is arguing against backups, and I agree the sd destruction argument is somewhat dubious, but that doesn't change the others! The point was: absolutely if you're running a 32b mboard apps2sd is worth a look, but as a magic user, I'm telling you I've tried it and went back after 2 days. The earler post about it being worth it as an experiment might well be true, but I wish I had read that article first!
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hi Radix999!
Thank you for porting 32a. My question is, how do i disable App2SD?
I'm using linux so i don't have problem with partions, my problem is to unmount /data/app folder.
Also, will nandroid backup /data folder as well?
Regards

if interested to disable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5246028

Reignzone said:
Yessssir.
I could make it rain.
SD cards are so cheap. What's $20 to most people...nothing! Enough said. Thread closed. Lol.
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The cheap cost of replacing flash memory won't make the other points go away... and you still have the risk of losing your data. Throw all your money at your phone and you still can't mount your SD card without crashing some apps... all that paper ain't gonna make your apps run faster on Apps2SD than it does on system memory
To begin with, if you got all that dough, why don't you go get a 32A? Or better yet, go grab one of the shiny new phones running Snapdragon, no need for Apps2SD there

the biggest advantage from app2sd for me is not the fact that I can save phone memory even though I have like 80 games and 40 apps installed; but it's because it will save me a lot of time re-installing each and every single app and game between roms testing.
and the biggest disadvantage from app2sd is that your phone depends on that tiny little plastic too much. it wont even turn on without that piece of plastic; and thats very weird cuz i thought app2sd only move other apps (not system apps cuz your system apps are still in /system/app) to your sd card which means system apps should still be able to start your phone without the microsd. But I guess I was wrong cuz my phone wouldn't turn on wihout the sd card installed.
jus my $.02

APP2SD how?
How do you do apps 2 sd? i want to try it out. can some one help or point me to a different forum?
-rooted mt3g 32b

I think the whole life reduction theory is pure b.s whats the difference between you using your micro sd card on the daily bases to transfer data from a computer or having it transfer data in your phone via apps2sd? None at all they use the same transfer mechanism correct?.I have a G1 and a behold 2 been using the same 4GB micro sd card for over 2 years in my G1 I even swapped it and now I use it in my behold 2 (without formatting and without loosing my apps) and have yet to endure any problems/lag slow downs maybe the people who complain simply have no knowledge of the device.both of my phones are rooted with swap partitions and custom firmware and are 2/3 faster than what they were when they came stock.With that being said it will not slow your experience down if you know what you are doing.And you can remove your SDcard without damaging your device you just have to take the BATTERY out before you take the SDCARD out.I do this on the daily bases depending on which phone I prefer to use and theirs no evidence to support the reduction in life for the microsd cards atleast not on any of my devices.

I have solved my slow HD2 issue

Hi guys,
I have been struggling with this issue since I have bought this phone, but today I have solved it. When it slows down , I have checked the task manager and it says the manila.exe was eating 98% of the memory. I tried everything, then one of my friend needed my memory card and I gave him mine and then suddenly my HD2 went back to race car situation. I played with it 3 hours nothing changed so that concluded that memory card was defective. I have formatted it nothing changed and bought a new one. Now everthing is perfect. I cannot say this is the solution but it solved mine. You may try it.
Good luck

Bro, thanks but this problem has been answered before.
Its known that the micro sd m2 slows down the phone.

so basically the memory card it comes with is trash and you'll have to replace it or keep your phone running slow?

Didn't work for me.

tekhizuz said:
Hi guys,
I have been struggling with this issue since I have bought this phone, but today I have solved it. When it slows down , I have checked the task manager and it says the manila.exe was eating 98% of the memory. I tried everything, then one of my friend needed my memory card and I gave him mine and then suddenly my HD2 went back to race car situation. I played with it 3 hours nothing changed so that concluded that memory card was defective. I have formatted it nothing changed and bought a new one. Now everthing is perfect. I cannot say this is the solution but it solved mine. You may try it.
Good luck
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i am not sure what class the sd card is that comes with our hd2's but i experienced the same thing. i just upgraded to a class 6 8gb card and the difference has been huge for me in terms of performance.

actually just your average class 4 SD card would make the phone perfome WAAAY beter.
I remeber when I purchase my HD2 and notice that it came with a 16GB class 2 card I was actually disappointed so I started using my 8GB class 4

So what ur all saying is that the major cause of phone lag is attributed to the cheap memory card?

Going to a class 6 from the garbage class 2 that came on the phone made a huge difference for me.

it will also improve the battery, especially for the people like myself that use the phone as an MP3 player. The battery drains so fast when I play music even with screen off....Im gonna look into a better sd card. It sucks though, the pack a craptastic Class 2 sd card and a small ass 1250 battery to power this massive screen. That still baffles me.

we shouldnt have to buy these
we should all just call tmobile and complain or take it to the tmobile forums, we all paid good money for these devices, last thing i need to do is go by something my phone already came with beacuse tmobile decided to cheap out.

When I got my phone I immediately swiched it out with my blackberry 16gb card. Everything T-mobile is trash except for the phone itself, I wish Verizon or AT&T wouldve gotten it. Coverage is behind horrible in my city with T-mobile. LOL

dukins said:
When I got my phone I immediately swiched it out with my blackberry 16gb card. Everything T-mobile is trash except for the phone itself, I wish Verizon or AT&T wouldve gotten it. Coverage is behind horrible in my city with T-mobile. LOL
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Coverage kicks ass in my city. Sucks to be you huh. LOL

jiggahj i feel the same way,i didn't even buy the phone yet and i already have to shop fo a new memory card,thats BS.

ummm wait wait... im kind of lost here... what do you mean by "class 2" "class 6" sd card?! >.> my phone started to slow down just today and yea.. when i take out my card its all cool... so so.. what are those classes? i never saw anything written like that on any card... and i had quite a bunch >.>

oxoconstantineoxo said:
ummm wait wait... im kind of lost here... what do you mean by "class 2" "class 6" sd card?! >.> my phone started to slow down just today and yea.. when i take out my card its all cool... so so.. what are those classes? i never saw anything written like that on any card... and i had quite a bunch >.>
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It's the write speed. They all read about the same. It's fast. But writing to them is much slower so they class them. You'll see a little number next to the company logo on the card. (2). The class 2 isn't horrible, but they had a batch. I used mine for a long time with no problems. But I did upgrade to a class 4 and things were better. Class 10 is the fastest that I know of but they are pricey.

Wow, i feel stupid for not knowing what the different classes were.
thanks. i'll be getting a new memory card soon

I rebooted my HD2 a couple of times because it was running SLOOOOW. Didn't understand what could be causing it - so using the dotfred task manager I discovered that for some reason Microsoft Voice Command was eating 100% of my CPU time...ha. I disabled voice command and all went back to normal. I rebooted a couple of times & re-enabled voice command and it seems to be ok now.

yeah the hd2 is a really great phone, the only thing keep alot of buyers away is the lag/freezes ): I think rooting and putting a custom rom will also solve it.

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It's the write speed. They all read about the same. It's fast. But writing to them is much slower so they class them. You'll see a little number next to the company logo on the card. (2). The class 2 isn't horrible, but they had a batch. I used mine for a long time with no problems. But I did upgrade to a class 4 and things were better. Class 10 is the fastest that I know of but they are pricey.
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OH HELL! There really is a lil "2" icon on my sd
But then... It was pretty fast like 2 weeks ago for me. now... it just slowed down... i have two "class-2" cards 2gb and 8gb ones, and 2gb is actually much faster rotfl. I just having troubles with BROWSING my files on card cause even my "file explorer" lags when i do >.> So yeah.. it used to be better..
and yup. i hard reseted my phone and formatted my cards. didnt really helped me.

i tried replacing my memory card from class 2 to class 6. it still hanged
i still have to wait for the text message/s to arrive before i can resume doing anything on it

4.83 Gb Internal Storage

Upon attempting the stock Froyo performance upgrade, I ended up at the dreaded Dell logo and couldn't get past it. I tried QDL, restore, factory reset etc... eventually I was able to figure out that it was a dead internal card. After reading some posts online and looking at the video of taking it apart I figured I'd check to see if it was the Micro card or the socket or what so I popped it open and put in a 6Gb class 4 card I had laying around.
I then ran the test in fastboot again and the card came back as fine. So then, from something I'd seen I decided to try doing the factory reset and that worked, so then I ran the QDL tool again on it. I was amazed when the phone booted up, and even more amazed that I had 4.83Gb of internal memory. After all my reading, I was under the impression that android wouldn't recognize more than 2Gb
Here are a couple of screen shots.. blurry... but still.
Now while I was going crazy because my 2 week old Streak was bricked, someone asked if I'd done a nandroid backup (I hadn't). Is that the best backup method?
Also, I tried several things when the Dell logo wasn't going away. Can anyone look at the screen shots and tell me what I'm running, OS-wise? I see a Steve kernel, and I'm wondering if that is part of the performance fix.
BTW, quadrant score is 1504 overclocked to 1194.

Moving to General

I just noticed I can no longer connect to my company's exchange server where I could before. Any thoughts on that?

How did u get it to show 4.8gig
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borijess said:
How did u get it to show 4.8gig
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I replaced the internal 2 Gb card with a 6Gb card.

over2land said:
I replaced the internal 2 Gb card with a 6Gb card.
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How did you do that? Did u have to disassemble the phone?
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How did you do that? Did u have to disassemble the phone?
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Yep I did. When I am back at my computer Ill look for the links that kind of explain it.

Very interesting. I may have to do this
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how about a 32gb class 10....
It will make the phone fly ;-)

drgopoos said:
how about a 32gb class 10....
It will make the phone fly ;-)
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Well I can tell you after it worked with the 6 I tried on of my 16gig class 2 cards and it didn't work. In the engineering test mode it recognized the card, but I couldn't get it to boot into android. I'm guessing class 2 is just too slow... or at least its too low at that capacity.

Here's the link to the thread on modaco which planted the seed in my head.
http://android.modaco.com/content/d...com/311538/hardware-hacking-this-puppy-input/
Here is a collection of pictures regarding taking the phone apart
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Dell-Streak-Teardown/3512/
and here is the video of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxcib-ricec&feature=player_embedded#!
I ended up using my thumbnails to get to the T5 screws. If you push in at the curve in the corner of the end panels at the end of the phone where the curve is they are pretty easy to remove. They are just held on with double stick tape. No special tools needed. I used the T5, my thumbnails, and a random 6Gb card I had laying around the house.
Those guys in the modaco thread are talking scripts and so on and so forth. I didn't have to do any of that. I don't know if that is because of the kernel or the build of the 2.2 I'm running, but it seems to have no problem with a bigger card.
Still have problems with Exchange though, and not sure if that is because of something I did with the card mods or what.

they are talking about the scripts etc because they want the card to a specific mount point that cant be achieved by just replacing the sd. outstanding job tho mate, you had been brave!

Have you seen any performance increase by using the larger card?

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Have you seen any performance increase by using the larger card?
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No performance increase as far as quadrant was concerned. I gained like 8 points on the quadrant score. Ended up at 1504. Then went to 1.5.3 and managed up to 1600 or so.
Back down to 1494 with all my apps back on, and that's with set CPU to max on demand in all tests.

Hmmm.... I wonder if it would work this easily with an 8GB microSd card? Changing all that script as posted on Modaco's site scares the heck out of me. I bought an additional 32GB card to do it, but haven't built my nerves up yet.

Was it worth resurrecting a thread that hasn't been added to for nearly 7 months?

Advantages Of An SD Card?

I just got a 32GB (Reads 27.4GB) Class 4 SD card for my phone. I know I can load pictures, movies, videos and documents on it, but what else can I do with this card? Essentially, I want to know all of my options before I start loading it up. I always see blurbs involving side loading, storing apps, using it for root and other stuff but I don't completely have the gist of that stuff down. Mind telling me everything I should be using this SD card for? What should I do with it right now before I load any media on it? Thank you!
Note: I am running update .83 and am NOT rooted.

I use mine for as much multimedia as possible, i.e. music, pictures, videos.
I also store boot animations, fonts, themes, and anything else I might want to have readily available after a wipe.............which I do frequently.
I also set my external sdcard as my TiBu location.
<edit> Everything I store on my external sdcard relating to boot animations, themes, etc. are just the files I will re-flash/install should I wipe. It just saves me copying all the flashable files I know I will need every time I wipe/sbf flash. If you store pics, music, etc. on the external sdcard, it is useable on other devices instantly should you remove the card to place in another device, either permanently or temporarily, and I have not had problems with my class 4 card as far as time to access files, play music from, etc. as some people say you will have.

honestly it's just there for storage. The phone has enough internal storage that you'll never need more space for apps. Store all things like backgrounds, widget skins, widget settings, etc on the internal memory, because if you ever remove the sd card the phone can't use them.
external card is also great for TiBu files as CaelanT said.

cegna09 said:
you'll never need more space
You are probably right, but.
I've been saying similar things about pcs and devices for the last 13+ years. I was wrong at every turn...
Made me think of my first 20gb hdd.
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JdgM3NT4L said:
cegna09 said:
you'll never need more space
You are probably right, but.
I've been saying similar things about pcs and devices for the last 13+ years. I was wrong at every turn...
Made me think of my first 20gb hdd.
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I remember my first time.............I mean HDD...........was 20MB.
You must be a youngster! LOL
Also, my first computer had 1k of memory!
Sinclair ZX80: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX80
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I never considered myself an "Old Timer" but I have owned a computer longer then most of my coworkers have been alive.
The memories of taking old floppy disks (and I mean real floppy disks not those little 5-1/4 inch deals I mean the 8 inch boys) and cutting notches in them so we could try and use the single sided disks as flipper/double sided ones.
Anyway I have a question for CaelanT... how about video on a class 4. I have a class 10 16gb and was going to go for a class 10 32gb when I got the money, but if you do not have anyproblem with video at class 4 I may save myself a little money.

Video is good for me on 720p unless I pan with the phone, and then I get a wee bit of motion jitter with occasional blur, but I believe I have read that happens to everyone and it's a camera issue. I took video of my sons graduation yesterday with it, and holding the camera still, video and audio were great.
I would post a video, but everything I have is personal. I may do a quick one tonight and post it for you to see.

no problem, don't need to really bother on my account, I trust your opinion.

It's just extra storage but advantage is if your phone dies you can still transfer all your contents to another place. If you only used internal memory if your phone dies everything is stuck on the device.

This is probably a good place to ask: what's the easiest way to transfer music and pictures to the SD card. And I mean taking them out of internal memory,not just copying them.
Never live in the past but always learn from it.

Hmm.. I have another question about sdcard-ext ..
Many big games.. Like the tegra2 games need 200-300mb or more.. And they installed on sdcard.. Bcz for phones without internal sd, sdcard is meant for their external.. So, how can we install these games to external sd??
I will sent this request, as feedback to the devs of "galaxy on fire game"..
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CaelanT said:
JdgM3NT4L said:
cegna09 said:
you'll never need more space
I remember my first time.............I mean HDD...........was 20MB.
You must be a youngster! LOL
Also, my first computer had 1k of memory!
Sinclair ZX80: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX80
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Sounds familier. I remember getting mine. It was 20mb too, big double height 5.25" monster. (Size of two cdrom drives stacked for you youngsters) I remember saying, wow I'll never fill this thing! lol
That would of been in my second computer. The first only had two 5.25" floppies.
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I just had sd card fail this morning. 32g lexar class 10 had it for around a month. Any ideas on how to save the pictures on it. Pc wont even recognize it.
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Idea for possible solution to no SD card.

As we all know by now, the Note 5 does not come with an SD card slot. There are USB OTG adapters that will allow you to plug in a micro sd card reader and use the storage. My issue is they are bulky and cannot be kept on the device during daily use. My thought is, if the adapter is slim enough you may be able to plug into the micro usb slot and have the card wrap around the back of the phone behind a case. If anyone has seen something like this please let me know. Check out the link below to get a better idea of what i mean. The link is for a universal wireless charger that will link to your phone via micro usb. Instead of the cable linking to a qi charger, maybe it could link to a thin micro sd card reader. Please let me know what you think, maybe improve upon the idea.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=UTF8&psc=1&tag=androidcentral00-20&m1k=vb_ac
This is a good idea here as well, but it is still too thick to fit behind a case.
http://www.amazon.com/Idmix®-Chargi...7&sr=1-16&keywords=micro+usb+to+micro+sd+card

I think the best solution would be to rethink your workflow/usage scenario for the SD Card and find other ways to achieve what you want. You can also wait to see if they come out with the 128gb version, but between the 64gb storage option and changing how you do things, it should be achievable.
I know for a time the WiFi Drives were popular with iPhone users, that's not really a bad option either...

kevroc said:
I think the best solution would be to rethink your workflow/usage scenario for the SD Card and find other ways to achieve what you want. You can also wait to see if they come out with the 128gb version, but between the 64gb storage option and changing how you do things, it should be achievable.
I know for a time the WiFi Drives were popular with iPhone users, that's not really a bad option either...
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Yeah I did this a few years ago when I switched to a phone with no mSD slot, moved all my pictures and videos and **** to cloud storage, now I pay $10 a month and have 1TB of storage space I can put anything I want on. I back up all my photos to the cloud and delete them from my phone once I get a decent number accumulated.
I also have been streaming my music, I dont listen to music a TON, but when I do I generally am only getting 30-60 minutes of listening in, that's not all that much data to stream so it doesn't effect my data usage all that much.
All in all, I felt fine on 32GB of internal storage with no mSD card, 64GB is a breeze.

kevroc said:
I think the best solution would be to rethink your workflow/usage scenario for the SD Card and find other ways to achieve what you want. You can also wait to see if they come out with the 128gb version, but between the 64gb storage option and changing how you do things, it should be achievable.
I know for a time the WiFi Drives were popular with iPhone users, that's not really a bad option either...
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I do actually have a wireless option that reads sd cards, my use case, i would like to the storage attached so pics and videos can be directly stored. I pre-ordered the 64gb, i didnt want to hold out lol. I found another item that is getting me closer but now i have to figure out a way to read the ribbon cable lol
http://www.amazon.com/Manufacture-S...8297&sr=8-1&keywords=Micro+SD+Extension+Cable.

I was just looking at Wifi Drives on Amazon, looks like they've come a long ways... They actually seem pretty cool.
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sdakidd88 said:
I do actually have a wireless option that reads sd cards, my use case, i would like to the storage attached so pics and videos can be directly stored. I pre-ordered the 64gb, i didnt want to hold out lol. I found another item that is getting me closer but now i have to figure out a way to read the ribbon cable lol
http://www.amazon.com/Manufacture-S...8297&sr=8-1&keywords=Micro+SD+Extension+Cable.
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That cable is pretty cool. I know you can't beat direct storage, that's why I had the 128gb iPhone But honestly, managing that much space via usb sync etc. is kind of a hassle. Maybe the cable adapter is good for batch offloading, but do you really need that much local storage, I think you'd get tired of the extra bulk and the potential hassles of "mounting" the external card, read/write limitations, etc. that go along with all of that.

I got this monster on the go cloud from Sam's club for 10 bucks a few months back, really good deal.
http://www.monsterdigital.com/wireless-streaming/otg-cloud

By the way, have you guys seen this deal? Maybe i missed the price drop but this seems like an excellent deal to me!
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Adapt...=UTF8&qid=1439928867&sr=1-7&keywords=micro+sd

I would just buy a wifi UsB drive if your looking for something compact. Or just Dropbox it

sdakidd88 said:
By the way, have you guys seen this deal? Maybe i missed the price drop but this seems like an excellent deal to me!
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Adapt...=UTF8&qid=1439928867&sr=1-7&keywords=micro+sd
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Yeah, that price drop popped up a week or two ago on slickdeals. If you can go up to SD Card, they're a bit cheaper/faster.

If they make this for the Note 5 like they did for the s6 and s6 edge it could solve the battery issue and the sd card problem
http://www.incipio.com/chargers/off...-extended-battery-case-samsung-galaxy-s6.html
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Good grief. The note 5 is big enough as it is. Last thing I would ever do is put a huge battery case on it.

There are always ideas. It's unfortunately that Samsung made that choice (Or maybe the Note Edge 2 supports it and they're trying to encourage people to go for the more expensive Note Edge 2? idk, Just a thought)
Solutions?
As mentioned previously, maybe there might be a case manufacturer that provides the support without the battery so it's lighter (or Samsung could surprise us with the S view case?)
Dual USB drive or NFC SD Card/ FD? sure you have to carry something extra that might get lost and all, but it's quite portable indeed :good:
Get a Note 4, install ported Note 5 ROM and voila!
Buy Cloud Storage or get an unlimited amount of cloud storage's

I'd use the battery /SD case in a minute! I have a note 2 with a 9300 mah zerolemon battery and I love my giant brick. That's why I don't care about design this, pretty that, glass this, feels good in hand that.
I just want my forever lasting brick phone! Whatever phone I get is getting either a zerolemon extended battery or a battery case.
Doesn't matter if the phone is pretty cause I'm never gonna see it!
I don't care because thinking about plugs and chargers something I never want to go back to!

I had been using this 64GB with my ex S6E - works very well. Is mini size and not bulky at all. It is auto detect by the phone and N5 users had reported it works well with it too
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-flash-drives/dualdrive/

sdakidd88 said:
As we all know by now, the Note 5 does not come with an SD card slot. There are USB OTG adapters that will allow you to plug in a micro sd card reader and use the storage. My issue is they are bulky and cannot be kept on the device during daily use. My thought is, if the adapter is slim enough you may be able to plug into the micro usb slot and have the card wrap around the back of the phone behind a case. If anyone has seen something like this please let me know. Check out the link below to get a better idea of what i mean. The link is for a universal wireless charger that will link to your phone via micro usb. Instead of the cable linking to a qi charger, maybe it could link to a thin micro sd card reader. Please let me know what you think, maybe improve upon the idea.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=UTF8&psc=1&tag=androidcentral00-20&m1k=vb_ac
This is a good idea here as well, but it is still too thick to fit behind a case.
http://www.amazon.com/Idmix®-Chargi...7&sr=1-16&keywords=micro+usb+to+micro+sd+card
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I Ihave an S6 and I purchased a micro OTG with 64B of storage - you can get larger ones I think - it connects to the USB and sticks out about a half inch - great for additional storage - I keep nandroids on it and connect it when I want to restore a previous nandroid - you can do a lot with it - not as good as an EXT SD card - but it works pretty well. and it is very small

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I had been using this 64GB with my ex S6E - works very well. Is mini size and not bulky at all. It is auto detect by the phone and N5 users had reported it works well with it too
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-flash-drives/dualdrive/
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This is the solution. I love it. Fast reliable and very nice ...

Ya, my note 3 has 544GB of storage using a 512GB full size sd card. I used a smaller adapter than the amazon one mentioned above and fit it completely inside my zerolemon case with the extended battery. If you are looking at the back of the phone, it fits just to the right of the camera. No bulge or anything. It looks completely normal.

I bought this from Amazon for my S6 - will be using for extra storage on my NOTE 5 http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-connector-Android-Devices--SDDD2-064G-G46/dp/B00RBGYGPG/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1439999149&sr=1-4&keywords=micro+otg
Pretty small - and works well. Best option I found - would love to find one smaller (it is about 3/4 to 1 inch long - and about 1/2 inch wide or so - just guessing about the size but I think it is pretty close to that.

Why not use a wireless external hard drive? Its almost like your own personnel cloud. 4TB for $200. Don't have to worry about monthly payments or being on a network/WiFi.
I'm thinking about getting one myself. Any thoughts/experience with these?
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-External-Storage-STDA4000100/dp/B00HXAV0X6
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Why not use a wireless external hard drive? Its almost like your own personnel cloud. 4TB for $200. Don't have to worry about monthly payments or being on a network/WiFi.
I'm thinking about getting one myself. Any thoughts/experience with these?
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-External-Storage-STDA4000100/dp/B00HXAV0X6
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Ya, I use one in addition to the sd card on my phone. It's definitely not as fast as a micro sd card would be, but it's usable. I really notice it when browsing directories. If you have anything over say a 100 photos or movies in a folder it takes about 3-4 seconds to load which is kinda annoying. This is my experience with an N router and USB 3.0. I'm doing a SMB share.