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Just want to send some love and appreciation to the developers

I'm rooted, running baked snacks 9.6 (the latest was slow) with the netarchy-toastmod FPS fix and overclocked with setcpu. I leave gps, wifi, and 4g on continuously just because I can (I rarely get 4g reception in San Marcos TX). Last night I didn't even charge the phone and I still had 50% battery life when I woke up. I get 55 frames per second consistently (stdv 5-6), and 5-point multitouch (I can play 5-note chords on piano app). It is blazingly smooth and fast. I spent hours downloading apps... probably have like 70 by now and it's still incredibly fast.
I love how I can just go to Google Nav and say my location and it understands me, and loads the destination onto the gps. In fact many apps I can just talk right into the phone and it just translates it.
I completely customized the home screen. It's pretty much my dream phone post XDA help. I have yet to find a single flaw. And it was a lot of fun learning how to root, flash roms, install kernels, and customize. It's like building your own PC and tweaking it to perfection. But then again I like projects and customization so the android community and xda community is definitely the place for me. The developers here are so awesome.
The difference between the EVO out of the box and the EVO in my hands is so large it may as well be called a different phone and it's all thanks to open source, sharing community.
I guess it's obvious I've become an EVO junkie by now. Iphone's are smooth out of the box, but so boring. What's to play with?
I compare the iphone to an xbox360 and an EVO to a PC computer. The former works out of the box (mostly) but you are limited to a closed system. The PC can be endlessly tweaked and customized.
Anyway, cheers!

Got mine on Day-1. (Jue 4th)
I am not rooted yet and still loving the stock version.
However, I will eventually be looking to take it to the next level.
Glad to hear that things are smooth with non-stock ROMs.
I will be there in the next few weeks.
Thanks for the update!

OP...I couldn't agree with you more. The devs are the only reason I bought the EVO. This is my first Android phone and I only picked it up 4 days ago. As such, I have not yet root'd myself. I am still learning as much as I can about the rooting process and other great tweaks before I transition to a custom ROM. There is huge amount of useful information if you search and read.
Many thanks to each and every dev that has contributed. Out of respect, I promise the following:
1. Search before posting
2. Use proper spelling/grammer
3. Ask clear/concise questions with a complete summary of what I was attempting to perform, summary of error messages/system behavior, and a summary of troubleshooting performed.
!!!!!!Android FOREVER!!!!!

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Out of respect, I promise the following:
1. Search before posting
2. Use proper spelling/grammer
3. Ask clear/concise questions with a complete summary of what I was attempting to perform, summary of error messages/system behavior, and a summary of troubleshooting performed.
!!!!!!Android FOREVER!!!!!
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That should be part of the terms of usage when registering for an account.

cronas froyo,fusion-rom,froydvillian and FROYO_2.2_elelinux_v1.2 [11/08/10]

i just tried all of them
here's my quick review of all four. Firstly I think they're all really pretty great and far better than we ought to have on the hero.
I found froyd 1.1.9 to be less finished than the other two using today's builds, but that makes sense. froyd 1.1.1 was quite finished, 1.1.9 is prerelease and uses very bleeding edge previously little tested kernels and other files.
I found froyd to be very unstable during first and second run, had lots of little issues and even reset itself once. BUT after that it started running properly. also the 1.1 kernel improved things some, and the 1.2 kernel did seem to fix the crazy clock. Some things were amazing - like how fast it played demanding 3d games. other things were subpar, like app compatibility, app installability, gallery3d, and just simple finished-ness. that last point is to be expected though.
I found fusion to be, well fusion. at times I've thought it was best. right now I'm not so in love with it but it's a really good product. I don't really love the aosp-ness of it though, but I admire the dev's work and his decisions along the way. it's very good and totally road worthy.
cronos as it's also really finished and seems to run faster in general use than froyd yet has more of the features I want than fusion does. Also every app I throw at it works and it's super stable and reliable. and it's still nice and quick for 3d gaming etc.
FROYO_2.2_elelinux_v1.2 just flashed and its Awsome its gona be tight idk i will review it more when i come back from =) DW =)

thanks, nice quick and to the point, i was gonna try cronos froyo anyway but good to hear the opinion of someone who's tried all three.

first of all, this is in the wrong section.
second, i have tried the latest builds of chronos or fusion, but im running froyodvillain, and its great, really fast, stable, no fc's after flashing correctly, im really looking forward to 1.2

BigD18t said:
first of all, this is in the wrong section.
second, i have tried the latest builds of chronos or fusion, but im running froyodvillain, and its great, really fast, stable, no fc's after flashing correctly, im really looking forward to 1.2
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well i had a lot of fc from launcher,setting,wifi stoped working,usb

I think this should be understood as an IMHO sort of post by the author of this thread.
here's my quick review of all three. Firstly I think they're all really pretty great and far better than we ought to have on the hero.
I found froyd 1.1.9 to be less finished than the other two using today's builds, but that makes sense. froyd 1.1.1 was quite finished, 1.1.9 is prerelease and uses very bleeding edge previously little tested kernels and other files.
I found froyd to be very unstable during first and second run, had lots of little issues and even reset itself once. BUT after that it started running properly. also the 1.1 kernel improved things some, and the 1.2 kernel did seem to fix the crazy clock. Some things were amazing - like how fast it played demanding 3d games. other things were subpar, like app compatibility, app installability, gallery3d, and just simple finished-ness. that last point is to be expected though.
I found fusion to be, well fusion. at times I've thought it was best. right now I'm not so in love with it but it's a really good product. I don't really love the aosp-ness of it though, but I admire the dev's work and his decisions along the way. it's very good and totally road worthy.
My pref is cronos (As per my signature) as it's also really finished and seems to run faster in general use than froyd yet has more of the features I want than fusion does. Also every app I throw at it works and it's super stable and reliable. and it's still nice and quick for 3d gaming etc.
but yes, maybe this should be moved to a different area?

i think it is in proper place, as a user experience of roms. dev section is imo better than general hero discussion, as a feedback to devs and other ppl that're looking for best choice, bcause it is strictly about rom releases, not general bout device.
what i can say - since ninpo's 1.2 kernel, froyd 1.1.9 is a damn good product (probably further more we will get in froyd 1.2, but whatever will be - will be).
after proper flashing (with wipe of absolutely everything), it is extremely stable. no fc's, speed really impressive, great compatibility etc... also 3d is cracking!
(had the same issue with unstability and fc's, when flashed without wipe ext, also was much slower than now, after full wipe).
and what is probably best - again teamvillain was absolutely first with new updates (camera etc), other roms are always couple of days after TV.

zbaracki said:
i think it is in proper place, as a user experience of roms. dev section is imo better than general hero discussion, as a feedback to devs and other ppl that're looking for best choice, bcause it is strictly about rom releases, not general bout device.
what i can say - since ninpo's 1.2 kernel, froyd 1.1.9 is a damn good product (probably further more we will get in froyd 1.2, but whatever will be - will be).
after proper flashing (with wipe of absolutely everything), it is extremely stable. no fc's, speed really impressive, great compatibility etc... also 3d is cracking!
(had the same issue with unstability and fc's, when flashed without wipe ext, also was much slower than now, after full wipe).
and what is probably best - again teamvillain was absolutely first with new updates (camera etc), other roms are always couple of days after TV.
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I always wipe fully before flashing, it wasn't that causing the issues. I was one of the first to download it, could be the original 1.0 kernel that I flashed after the rom before first boot, but it wasn't user error. However as noted it improved dramatically after the first couple of hours of use, flashing further kernels increased stability eventually too.
it wasn't as peppy in the user interface though, and I actually find that the other devs have more frequent updates than team villain does, but they all update quite effectively.
Villain's an effective group - no doubt about it. I actually found 1.1.1 to have the best battery life of all the froyos, so it will be fun to see what happens over the next little while!

Moved to general with expiring redirect in place. Dev is really only for technical development of new roms.
This thread has remained very civil, so credit to you guys. Let's keep it that way. A lot of rom comparison threads turn to flames, let's make this one the exception.
Also, anyone wanting to flame here, don't. Treat this as your warning not to.
Thanks.

zbaracki said:
i think it is in proper place, as a user experience of roms. dev section is imo better than general hero discussion, as a feedback to devs and other ppl that're looking for best choice, bcause it is strictly about rom releases, not general bout device.
what i can say - since ninpo's 1.2 kernel, froyd 1.1.9 is a damn good product (probably further more we will get in froyd 1.2, but whatever will be - will be).
after proper flashing (with wipe of absolutely everything), it is extremely stable. no fc's, speed really impressive, great compatibility etc... also 3d is cracking!
(had the same issue with unstability and fc's, when flashed without wipe ext, also was much slower than now, after full wipe).
and what is probably best - again teamvillain was absolutely first with new updates (camera etc), other roms are always couple of days after TV.
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The kernel works great on 1.1.1 too
Just a fyi
I had some trouble with my alarm... gonna see if it works tomorrow, otherwise I'll be late for work. Other than that, it's just great.

[Q]A soon to be Wildfire owner

Hi guys, this is my first visit to this forum so go easy
I just put in an order in for a Wildfire, and of course have since been looking up all the apps and mods etc that people tend to install. My main question is about the battery life, roms and overclocking.
Is the battery life really that bad, is it worth modding anything to improve it?
What are the benefits of changing to a different rom, and are Wildfires brickable? (excuse me if I'm using the term 'ROM' incorrectly). For example, to mess around with the UI do I need to root it and all that jazz?
Is overclocking advised/necessary? I read that it is stable as long as you don't over do it, but is this mostly for people who just do it because they simply can?
I apologise in advance for all the questions - I've spent a decent amount of time googling around, but as usual definitive answers are hard to come by. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Spoonzie said:
Hi guys, this is my first visit to this forum so go easy
I just put in an order in for a Wildfire, and of course have since been looking up all the apps and mods etc that people tend to install. My main question is about the battery life, roms and overclocking.
Is the battery life really that bad, is it worth modding anything to improve it?
What are the benefits of changing to a different rom, and are Wildfires brickable? (excuse me if I'm using the term 'ROM' incorrectly). For example, to mess around with the UI do I need to root it and all that jazz?
Is overclocking advised/necessary? I read that it is stable as long as you don't over do it, but is this mostly for people who just do it because they simply can?
I apologise in advance for all the questions - I've spent a decent amount of time googling around, but as usual definitive answers are hard to come by. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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I own both a wildfire and a desire, i use the wildfire as my main phone ( the desire for showing off). The wildfire has a good battery discharge rate...meaning it will get u through a good day and half of heavy use unlike the desire (half a day). I change my roms very reguarly, say once every week to take advantage of improved and updated software by the devs on xda. Trying different roms will also expose you to different type of kernels, some are faster and more stable than others. No your wildfire wont brick if you follow the guides written by the xda devs correctly. Overclocking tends to make the overall rom appear more responsive but you can go without it. I always overclock after flushing new rom. Hope that helped a little bit.

Spoonzie said:
Hi guys, this is my first visit to this forum so go easy
I just put in an order in for a Wildfire, and of course have since been looking up all the apps and mods etc that people tend to install. My main question is about the battery life, roms and overclocking.
Is the battery life really that bad, is it worth modding anything to improve it?
What are the benefits of changing to a different rom, and are Wildfires brickable? (excuse me if I'm using the term 'ROM' incorrectly). For example, to mess around with the UI do I need to root it and all that jazz?
Is overclocking advised/necessary? I read that it is stable as long as you don't over do it, but is this mostly for people who just do it because they simply can?
I apologise in advance for all the questions - I've spent a decent amount of time googling around, but as usual definitive answers are hard to come by. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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The battery life of the wildfire pwns most of the devices running android today , i get about 2 days to 3, or perhaps more if i BARELY use it. mostly it lasts for longer than a day, as i like to use the wifi/3g etc.
yeah to change to a custom rom you need to root. benefits = faster, more features, extra cool stuff, themes etc.
Nah overclocking isn't necessary, i just do it cause i want to, and it makes the phone faster , but don't overclock to max speed otherwise your phone might freeze.

[Q] ?'s re CM9; What works, what doesn't, battery life, etc.

I have a used Nook Color on the way. I've been looking forward to rooting my very own NC for months now, and as soon as mine gets here, I'm going to work. But I am looking for some advice first. Before anyone tells me to search and read the threads, I have been, for the last week. That's why I have the questions!
I have CM7 on my Inspire, and have been very happy with it. My inner geek is screaming for ICS, and I'd really like to use CM9 on my NC. But I've been reading threads and while I see plenty of success stories, I hear lots of difficulties as well. "Man, this would be my daily driver except for (or in spite of) problem X." Some folks have sound issues, some don't. Bluetooth works, or it doesn't. Battery life is as good as CM7, or "I need a really long extension cord" (okay that's a paraphrase). Gapps work, gapps don't work. Screen rotation is funky for some, just fine for others. Then I read where this issue or that one has been fixed, but not for everyone. And there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to why some have problem X and others don't. My head's spinning a bit here.
So here's what I'm hoping for from CM9 on my Nook Color. I need wifi obviously. I will be wanting to use it to listen to music and occasionally watch movies from Amazon or Netflicks, so I need sound. I'd like to get decent battery life (and what exactly IS decent battery life for these things anyway?) And Bluetooth isn't a deal-breaker, but I'd like to be able to use a BT keyboard occasionally. Am I expecting too much? I know we're still in the nightlies era with CM9.
Is there a stable, functional CM9 build out there? Should I expect to have to resolve some of these issues? I don't mind a bit of tinkering, but how much should I expect? Or should I bite the bullet and go with CM7?
If it helps, my plan is to re-partition 1.96 /data as discussed in DeanGibson's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094371 and install CMx to eMMC according to eyeball's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227 . I am planning on using this as a daily driver.
What should I realistically expect?
I know some of the regulars here must get tired of these sorts of questions, but after reading threads I'm more confused than ever. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Surprising no one has answered this. I'll answer what I can, though I've only just recently built a working version of CM9 myself. This thread will give you a good overview of stuff, and give you a mostly-working instruction document to compile your own copy of ICS CM9. Both this thread and [url="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526115"this thread[/url] give out unofficial nighties for CM9.
First, you asked if there's a stable, functional build of CM9. There is not. The ones you'll find are functional, but buggy. Some things outright do not work, some are buggy or glitchy, and some things just won't work.
I don't think there's too much tinkering that will be necessary, at least I haven't had any tonight. There will be issues you run into, or things you wish worked that don't. Everything is still very alpha right now. But still very usable.
As for movies/videos, I'm not very sure. I have not tried video on mine yet, and probably won't, as I don't use it for that.
I, for one, do plan on using it as a daily driver, as I've not found enough issues to not. Besides, I love playing with a new toy, and ICS is new enough to count 8D

CM9 is still at an early stage compared to CM7. In my experience with the latest nightly builds it is very stable, has good wifi, bluetooth (limited range like CM7), sound and video and a much nicer screen organisation and functionality compared to CM7. Against that it currently does not have video acceleration so Netflix will not work and the interface is noticeably laggy compared to CM7. The lag can be reduced somewhat by choosing alternative launchers and a bit of tweaking but it is not up to CM7 smoothness standards yet.
What I do with a new install is
a) Install MiRaGE CM7 7.2 to internal emmc memory. Install gapps. Set up and download the apps you want and set up the screens how you like. Back up your apps via Titanium.
b) Take a Nandroid back up of your install. This will be your CM7 fallback.
c) Wipe (system, data, cache) and install latest nightly CM9. Install ICS Gapps. Install Nova Launcher for a bit of extra smoothness. Do basic set up, restore downloaded apps via Titanium and set up screens how you like.
d) Take another Nandroid back up of your system.
Now see whether you can live with or prefer CM9. If you find it too laggy or need your Netflix then you can simply restore to CM7. You can choose to restore back to CM9 as well to apply a further update.
Others do a similar thing by keeping CM7 on their internal and booting to a CM9 on an SD card. Perfectly valid, but I prefer to stick to a clean emmc install and avoid switching SD cards around.

I have been on cm7 mirage kang for a couple of months now and played with cm9. Didn't really like it so went back to cm7. I had the 1gb system and 5gb media set up from the beginning and was looking into repartitioning. I went that route but am now on a dual boot configuration with cm7 mirage kang running primary and a nightly of cm9 running alternate. I have over 2gb for each system and a little over 1gb for media and my sd card that both cm7 and cm9 share. Give it a try. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275859

Thanks for the advice guys. It's REALLY appreciated.
alunral, I had both of your nightlies threads bookmarked already, but hadn't gotten into the other one. Thank you, it's been informative. I hadn't really thought of compiling my own, but I may have to give it a shot. One of my boys and I have been playing with the idea of building our own Linux distro, but I'll bet I can get him interested in doing this first. He has a Xoom we could play around with too. (grinning and wiggling my eyebrows)
bobtidey and zires, those are both good suggestions. I'd thought about CM7 in eMMC and CM9 on SD, but I'm just not very enthusiastic about running off SD. Don't know why really.Either one of your ideas would work better I think.
UPS came by last night, and I'm looking at a new-condition NC sitting on the couch next to me. Y'all have made the road forward a little bit clearer.
zires, is your handle a left-over from the days of Palm?

Comparison of CM10.2 based ROMs

I find rom flashing sufficiently annoying that I don't do it often. In fact I've only done it once (over a year ago) with Paranoid Android. But the advances are starting to look significant and I'm contemplating my next rom. I looked casually at the bug list for CM10.2 and it seems that most bugs are minor glitches or things with easy work arounds, and that this base is stable enough to use as a daily driver. If anyone would like to confirm or deny that conjecture I would like to hear your opinion on that.
Assuming one is willing to take the CM10.2 leap, the ROM listing thread shows 7 based on CM10.2:
BeanStalk, crDroid, DARKNESS, Illusion, Krueger, rom-xperia, SGT7, and SuperNexus 3.0
I'm not naive enough to ask which one is best, but to those of you who have compared these seriously, could you offer some comparisons based on some of the important characteristics. Perhaps
- best stability
- best battery life
- best UI smoothness
- largest feature set
- smallest footprint (i.e. reduced bloat)
- best built-in apps
- best built-in kernel
- most popular
- best support
Or if you don't think these are the most important characteristics, feel free to suggest more relevant ones.
I have read large portions of the thread discussing each of these roms, but I still find it difficult to decide which one I would like most..
I'm sure many readers of this forum will be as interested in your responses as I am since at this point there is little of this kind of information out there in a reasonably accessible way.
Thanks in advance for any contributions you can make to this thread.
~Paul

Unfortunately this type of thread isn't allowed... Even though it looks like you put a lot of thought into it...
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No. Non. Njet. Sorry - No best ROM threads
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