Pixels - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am thinking of getting a 32gb nexus 7 tomorrow .
My question is are the pixels noticeable ?
I know on my Acer a100 they are very noticeable & annoying.
Also what decently priced case like the ottorbox will you recommend ?
I would like to say, I searched about the pixles and did not find anything .
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myturbo1 said:
I am thinking of getting a 32gb nexus 7 tomorrow .
My question is are the pixels noticeable ?
I know on my Acer a100 they are very noticeable & annoying.
Also what decently priced case like the ottorbox will you recommend ?
I would like to say, I searched about the pixles and did not find anything .
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the nexus 7 screen is a LOT better, the ppi goes from the 169 on the a100 to 213 on the n7. of course it is not a retina display and you can see pixels if you look hard, but it is a significant improvement over the a100. in fact, in normal day to day usage im not able to see the pixels at at all other than fully zoomed out in the browser. hope this helps.

Of you look you can see the pixels, but then again I can see the pixels on the iPad and iPhone and my gnex however on my gnex its harder. I cant tell at all on my nexus 4 But somewhere around 350ppi or so it becomes impossible to tell a difference
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The DPI on the N7 is one of the highest around. They are not noticeable without your face pushed up to the glass and even then it would be hard.
TVs have super low DPI (60?). PC monitors are better... But nothing like newer gen mobile devices. Screen tech up to date and superb. Nothing to worry about.
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The DPI on the N7 is one of the highest around. They are not noticeable without your face pushed up to the glass and even then it would be hard.
TVs have super low DPI (60?). PC monitors are better... But nothing like newer gen mobile devices. Screen tech up to date and superb. Nothing to worry about.
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sure, but remember: tv's have low pixel density, because it was seen from afar. in contrast, the mobile devices are designed to be used almost right up your face, and therefore you need to have a very high dpi screen just to keep jaggedness away. pc monitors are somewhere in the middle so they have good but not great ppis. when you compare ppi's, you cannot directly compare a tv screen with a smartphone/tablet screen, as they are designed and used in very different ways. so keep the comparison apples to apples (no pun intended . and n7 has a much better resolution than the a100 the op currently has, it will be a very noticeable improvement.

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I cant tell at all on my nexus 4 But somewhere around 350ppi or so it becomes impossible to tell a difference
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When you consider that the Nexus 4 has nearly the same screen resolution as the Nexus 7 but on a smaller screen size (1280x720 vs 1280x800) it's going to b quite a bit crisper.
People usually don't notice til they see something better.

Well I can notice on almost everything lol.
Because I do allot of gaming on my phone & tabs.
So that is a huge deciding factor .
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myturbo1 said:
Well I can notice on almost everything lol.
Because I do allot of gaming on my phone & tabs.
So that is a huge deciding factor .
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1280x800 @ 7" is rather crisp, and most certainly noticeable over most other tablets (Galaxy Tab 2 7.0" for example is only 1024x600 on nearly the same size screen).
The Nexus 10" is 300dpi with a screen resolution of 2560 x 1600. (versus the 216dpi @ 1280x800), so visually the 10 is much nicer, just not as powerful a processor (But more ram, I think it was intended for those drooling over eyecandy).

Moral of the story, quit worrying about the DPI on the N7. It is one of the highest DPI screens of any 7" (or mobile). You sure aren't going to be able to see pixels doing anything other then staring at non-moving black on white text, 1" from your eye. More importantly, you still cannot make out the pixels as they are so small that they blur together.
Anything that moves or has motion, won't be visible unless they are meant to be visible.

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Could be promising...

Alternative to the SG Note?
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobil...ooking-to-take-on-samsung-galaxy-note-1042745
Who ever can get a phone with similar specs to the Note first in he US will likely get my business. Doesn't seem like its gonna be Samsung...
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I had a Galaxy S2 i777 for two weeks and the leap to dual core is a HUGE improvement. I returned it within the try it period though because I couldn't get used to a "tiny" 4.3 inch screen.
Or this one:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/24/pantech-vega-no-5-bringing-sexy-back-to-tabletphones-packs-1-5g/
Less resolution than the Note, but with all that speed imagine how fast it would draw! I actually have no complaints about the display on the Streak. How much resolution do you really need? Lol, its not like I'm looking at the screen with a microscope!
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Or this one:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/24/pantech-vega-no-5-bringing-sexy-back-to-tabletphones-packs-1-5g/
Less resolution than the Note, but with all that speed imagine how fast it would draw! I actually have no complaints about the display on the Streak. How much resolution do you really need? Lol, its not like I'm looking at the screen with a microscope!
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hmmm...I don't see how this one would be that much faster than the GNOTE
Its a 1.5 dual-core, which is just a tad faster, but the resolution is about 75% that of the Note (same as the streak), so it can draw the screen images much faster.
The main thing that can slow the Note down is the crazy high resolution.
After a point it seems like the high resolution thing could be almost a gimmick, like high megapixels on a digital camera when you are only printing 4x6 inch photos. 1 megapixel looks the same as 20 unless you blow it up to the size of a billboard! The point is, you can't blow up the screen on your phone any bigger. I can't seem to see a single pixel on my streak with the naked eye as it is...
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7 million sold and ticking

Samsung just announced that the galaxy note has now sold 7 million and counting.......
I think note 2 is destiny - the only question now is where.
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Galaxy Note is a big hit for samsung....
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Wow, with the note being such a success I wonder if in the further all phones will be 5.3 inches and future 'tablet/phone' hybrid devices will be 7 inches?
Even now some people say I'm ridiculous carrying such a big phone but I see this 'big' phone being looked at as 'too small' in a few years??? Though I don't think they will make phones with screens bigger than 7 inches considering 7 inches is already a 'mini' tablet's size.
Either ways I also hope they don't release a Note 2 so soon, just bought my note in February, would hate for it to be 'old' or 'outdated' in less than a year, I feel like past mid 2013 would be the perfect time or maybe end of 2013 in December.
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That's actually very interesting because they pumped a lot od money to manufacture and promote Galaxy Note which was - let's be honest - an experimental device. With 7 millions sold - and people getting excited about it everyday and buying more and more - i guess Note 2 is a matter of time.
But i have to agree - not yet. It's still too early to release Note 2.
The note is an amazing device, everyone that sees mine loves it even if it is a bit big for some. I normally get itchy feet around the six month mark of having a phone, thinking I want a new one, but haven't thought about getting a new phone at all. Its amazing how badly the dell streak did compared to the note. Probably because of dells lack of advertising, but also I guess all the right things just came together with the note and has captured peoples imagination, the hd amoled screen, the s-pen the dual core great camera, great gps it just does everything well. Never had a phone I enjoy using so much!!
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Wow, with the note being such a success I wonder if in the further all phones will be 5.3 inches and future 'tablet/phone' hybrid devices will be 7 inches?
Even now some people say I'm ridiculous carrying such a big phone but I see this 'big' phone being looked at as 'too small' in a few years??? Though I don't think they will make phones with screens bigger than 7 inches considering 7 inches is already a 'mini' tablet's size.
Either ways I also hope they don't release a Note 2 so soon, just bought my note in February, would hate for it to be 'old' or 'outdated' in less than a year, I feel like past mid 2013 would be the perfect time or maybe end of 2013 in December.
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I'm sort of doubting that 7" will become a phone standard. The Note is already approaching the upper limit of what many people can reasonably hold and fit in normal pockets. I wouldn't be surprised to see some tablets come with a mic and speaker to be used as a phone though.
fabu09 said:
Wow, with the note being such a success I wonder if in the further all phones will be 5.3 inches and future 'tablet/phone' hybrid devices will be 7 inches?
Even now some people say I'm ridiculous carrying such a big phone but I see this 'big' phone being looked at as 'too small' in a few years??? Though I don't think they will make phones with screens bigger than 7 inches considering 7 inches is already a 'mini' tablet's size.
Either ways I also hope they don't release a Note 2 so soon, just bought my note in February, would hate for it to be 'old' or 'outdated' in less than a year, I feel like past mid 2013 would be the perfect time or maybe end of 2013 in December.
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I tried to carry Galaxy Tab 7.7 (it support normal phone, I can call and sms), it was too big for me. Ideal is 5.0 - 6.3.
6 inches would be an ideal replacement for a tablet and phone to me. Galaxy Note 5.3 sometimes feels small for internet or drawing.
Yeah I hope note 2 has a bigger screen. 6 would be good
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I'm sort of doubting that 7" will become a phone standard. The Note is already approaching the upper limit of what many people can reasonably hold and fit in normal pockets. I wouldn't be surprised to see some tablets come with a mic and speaker to be used as a phone though.
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Yea now thinking about it again I doubt 7 inch phones but 6.5 inch is still possible. Only one thing that gets in the way, when we use the note to talk...... now with the note even though some people are like its so wired, I think its just fine as its just right from my ears down to my mouth, the length of the phone is exactly right and its not too wide that to covers the entire of my face on the side, so bigger screen mean its going to be longer/wider, I can't say it will look wierd until I see it being used but this is definetly a concern.
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No matter what, the Note 2 has to be pocketable.
That totally rules out 7".
I could maybe see 5.8, if they somehow find a way to make bezelless phones. Which completely hasn't happened yet. I already can't really tie my shoes when it's in the front pocket of a couple of my pants. It's pretty close to borderline for me.
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I tried to carry Galaxy Tab 7.7 (it support normal phone, I can call and sms), it was too big for me. Ideal is 5.0 - 6.3.
6 inches would be an ideal replacement for a tablet and phone to me. Galaxy Note 5.3 sometimes feels small for internet or drawing.
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5.3 feels small?? Are you kidding me??
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5.3 feels small?? Are you kidding me??
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Ha. Agreed.
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I think we should be reasonable here.
I think if anyone who wants Note 2 to be bigger than 5.8" should really consider getting a tablet and phone separately.
I wouldnt mind a 5.8" personally but anything bigger will be really hard to use as a phone.
Also I really want a 16:10 ratio screen res like the current Note.
Perhaps 1920x1200
Im all about bigger screens but anything bigger than the Note would be simply too big for me. Still im pretty sure they could manage to give us 5,5" screen without increasing the device's dimensions. That would be nice.
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5.3 feels small?? Are you kidding me??
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5.3 isn't small, but when you use a tablet like the iPad to browse than switch to the Note it does seem small, same thing with browsing on a note than switching to other phones, it does seem small but over all 5.3 isn't small.
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Akiainavas said:
Im all about bigger screens but anything bigger than the Note would be simply too big for me. Still im pretty sure they could manage to give us 5,5" screen without increasing the device's dimensions. That would be nice.
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OK maybe if the cut off the buttons and just have one small (but big enough for the average thumb size) home button and removed the Samsung logo ontop of the phone and made the screen wider removing the little space on the sides, it could happen, also hope that in future Notes, speakers are on the bottom or sides of the phone and not the back rely dumb to have it there
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Very nice 7,000,000 SGN! Sure SGN II on the drawing table already
Galaxy Note is a runaway success for Samsung. It will allowed it to sold more devices this year unless we see interesting design for Apple iPhone 5.
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Good going Samsung !
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I want a Nexus Note with Quadcore..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nexus 7 vs 10 inch tablets

Has anyone here had a 10 inch tablet and is willing to share some thoughts regarding browsing in particular?
I'm thinking of getting the Nexus 7 because it seems easier on the hands than a 10 incher but I don't want to do it at the expense of a good browsing experience. What I mean is if anybody can do a comparison between browsing experiences on a 7 inch in landscape vs 10 inch in portrait mode. Browsing in landscape on a 10 inch is out of the question for me (since I do this on my 8.9 Galaxy Tab and already find it cumbersome) and portrait on a 7 inch is definitely something I wouldn't even try (doing this on my 8.9 makes my eyes scream in pain).
So I would just like to hear PROs and CONs basically for each of them, but only if you've used them in the orientation I mentioned.
Much appreciated!
i used to have a transformer prime and absolutely everything is better on the nexus 7. I think the main reason for that is because the TF201 had some major issues so it could have just been that specific tablet but on my comparison the n7 is better in particular with browser performace...the main reason i got it though is because of the much larger development community
Browsing is "easier" on on the iPad compared to N7 as far as viewing is concerned in my opinion.
However, I always found the iPad made my wrist ache after a while and I was forever altering my grip and stuff.
So overall I prefer the N7 as it is much more comfortable to hold and most sites are perfectly readable.
I never understood why fully grown men/adults complain abut holding 10 inch tablets for prolonged periods. my 2 year old can lay in bed or the floor and hold it above her head for hours...literally...iPad, touchpad and the nexus she holds in one hand practically.
Just say in...are people this weak? And even complain that its heavy?
No offense to those with conditions preexisting.
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I had a Transformer TF101 10". I loved it. Had no complaints at all. Sure it was a little big for home use but perfect for business use for remote desktop. But I primarily used it at home. I bought a 7" Galaxy Tab for my wife/son and I really liked the ability to take it more places. After handling both after a while I wanted something smaller.
I really tossed on the Nexus 7 but the Transformer was basically end of life officially. I was looking at the Transformer TF300 for the Tegra3... then the Nexus 7 came out and was half the price. Smaller form factor plus all the hardware.
I really like gaming on it more. Typing feels easier. I'm happy. I miss video out but oh well.
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I never understood why fully grown men/adults complain abut holding 10 inch tablets for prolonged periods. my 2 year old can lay in bed or the floor and hold it above her head for hours...literally...iPad, touchpad and the nexus she holds in one hand practically.
Just say in...are people this weak? And even complain that its heavy?
No offense to those with conditions preexisting.
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It is tiring for most normal people. Probably stronger people like you can hold it for long time. Whenever I use my iPad 3 I put it on my lap or if I am on my bed I use it with stand. Holding iPad 3 for long period of time is indeed tiring experience. I am saying because I use my tablets a lot and I don't use my laptop much. I just need my laptop when I have an exe file to run or transfer something on my tablet which is not available on internet.
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flash_beezy said:
I never understood why fully grown men/adults complain abut holding 10 inch tablets for prolonged periods. my 2 year old can lay in bed or the floor and hold it above her head for hours...literally...iPad, touchpad and the nexus she holds in one hand practically.
Just say in...are people this weak? And even complain that its heavy?
No offense to those with conditions preexisting.
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Holding it with 2 hands for viewing something isn't a problem, but when you're browsing and constantly reaching with one hand to the middle of the screen to tap stuff, then the weight of it starts to feel noticed. It isn't a very big deal, but I think a larger screen is better for viewing stuff and a smaller screen is better for interacting with it. Unless you do everything in portrait mode on your 10 inch, but then the browsing experience suffers (a 7 inch in landscape is 15 cm wide and has 1280 pixels across while a 10 inch in portrait mode is 13.6 cm wide and only has 800 pixels). Does anyone know what I'm talking about here?
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Holding it with 2 hands for viewing something isn't a problem, but when you're browsing and constantly reaching with one hand to the middle of the screen to tap stuff, then the weight of it starts to feel noticed. It isn't a very big deal, but I think a larger screen is better for viewing stuff and a smaller screen is better for interacting with it. Unless you do everything in portrait mode on your 10 inch, but then the browsing experience suffers (a 7 inch in landscape is 15 cm wide and has 1280 pixels across while a 10 inch in portrait mode is 13.6 cm wide and only has 800 pixels). Does anyone know what I'm talking about here?
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Yes I know and if the text is too small on the website I am browsing then at times I use nexus 7 in landscape mode. There is no need for zoom in that case. The text is also crisper than 800 pixel tablet in portrait.
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To make things even more interesting, I was initially thinking of buying the Transformer Pad Infinity (TF700) because of its resolution of 1920x1200. But since I figured I would use it most of the time in portrait mode (for browsing and typing at least), I would get a 13.6cm wide screen with 1200 pixels, which isn't as good as the 15cm wide screen with 1280 pixels of the Nexus 7, correct? I mean, the 2 DPIs are very close (224 and 216) but the wider Nexus 7 would be a little better and the taller Transformer would be a bit too tall I think...

Do I need the Nexus 7?

Hey guys I recently got a Nexus 7 but have noticed that it is nowhere as smooth as my Nexus 4 even when running Paranoid Android. I don't play video games and only use it to watch YouTube videos. I don't really think I need it. Unless you guys have some amazing ideas for me I'm probably going to get a refund on it.
Thanks guys
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I love having my N7. Use it with Apex launcher/stock rom/rooted while at home. It's so light and the screen is mesmerizing to me. Save the N4 for work/on the go. There's no way I could go back to only N4/laptop. I see a bit of lag every once in a while (was really bad with Nova) but must have a nice tablet now and hate the weight of all ten inch ones.
I use my tablet (A500) whenever I want to play or watch youtube videos, it's nice to have another device with the same options as your phone
Joshua3109 said:
Hey guys I recently got a Nexus 7 but have noticed that it is nowhere as smooth as my Nexus 4 even when running Paranoid Android. I don't play video games and only use it to watch YouTube videos. I don't really think I need it. Unless you guys have some amazing ideas for me I'm probably going to get a refund on it.
Thanks guys
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OK. Here's my opinion on tablets in general. Seven inch tablets are made for those who can't afford a ten inch tablet. That doesn't necessarily mean people buy them because of that, it's just the target demographic. Now, seven inch tablets do come in handy when you need a device for FPS gaming or portability. They own that area. And the very best seven inch is the Nexus 7, so if you want a seven inch tablet, buy the Nexus 7.
But...in every other area 10 inch tablets win. Usually they're top of the line, have back cameras (if you need one), are much easier to type on, and generally have better screens. So in this area for Android you have a few flagship tablets such as the Nexus 10, Note 10.1, and Infinity. The Nexus 10 is having major light bleed issues. I picked up one and exchanged it to find the second had it worse. So I returned it and bought an iPad. Yes. An iPad. I would never buy an iPhone, but the tablet experience on an iPad is stellar. I'm still mesmerized by how smooth everything is and how well it works. So don't be an Android fanboy and exclude the iPad if you're considering going for ten inch tablets. It's quite possibly the best of them all (in my opinion, anyway).
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jtc276 said:
OK. Here's my opinion on tablets in general. Seven inch tablets are made for those who can't afford a ten inch tablet. That doesn't necessarily mean people buy them because of that, it's just the target demographic. Now, seven inch tablets do come in handy when you need a device for FPS gaming or portability. They own that area. And the very best seven inch is the Nexus 7, so if you want a seven inch tablet, buy the Nexus 7.
But...in every other area 10 inch tablets win. Usually they're top of the line, have back cameras (if you need one), are much easier to type on, and generally have better screens. So in this area for Android you have a few flagship tablets such as the Nexus 10, Note 10.1, and Infinity. The Nexus 10 is having major light bleed issues. I picked up one and exchanged it to find the second had it worse. So I returned it and bought an iPad. Yes. An iPad. I would never buy an iPhone, but the tablet experience on an iPad is stellar. I'm still mesmerized by how smooth everything is and how well it works. So don't be an Android fanboy and exclude the iPad if you're considering going for ten inch tablets. It's quite possibly the best of them all (in my opinion, anyway).
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Cool story bro
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A 7 inch tablet is evolution of the eBook readers to me.
EBook readers where extremely popular. Let's take the basic form factor and make a it full fledge tablet. So yeah you can use it as a eBook reader and...movies,internet, email, games and everything else that full android device can do.
it depends on your routine.
if you have a nexus 4 you don't need a nexus7, nexus10 yes with its display, prefect for ebooks and Paranoid android, ,the nexus4 and its large screen is fine, I will get a 10 inch when its here, just for reading at night, I use my phone more so tablets are excess luxury goods
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Cool story bro
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Is there anything I wrote that isn't true?
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I use my N7 for netflix or youtube, or use it while my N4 charges...
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Is there anything I wrote that isn't true?
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Yes, 7 inch aren't aimed at people who can't afford 10" tabs, they are aimed at people who want a more portable solution but a bigger screen than a phone.
IPad 4 ftw!
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Have owned an iPad 2 for a year now. Has been collecting dust ever since I bought Galaxy Nexus and then N4. Watching video? LOL @ Youtube fail. Website? N4 is ok. Playing games? too heavy. I'm still waiting for someone to suggest some use for me.
I don't feel a need for a tablet personally. I have a transformer which I used when it was newer than my phone. If i was to get a nexus 10 I may use it more than my Nexus 4. It just seems pointless to have a tablet and a phone when most of my usages are done on a desktop.
It depends what kind of a person you are. For me i use whatever is newer in my hands.
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Yes, 7 inch aren't aimed at people who can't afford 10" tabs, they are aimed at people who want a more portable solution but a bigger screen than a phone.
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Which proves that you didn't read what I wrote. I said they were marketed towards those people. You don't see many (none that I can think of) seven inch tablets over $250, whereas ten inch tablets range from $250-$1000 depending on the model and storage. So, of course, seven inch tablets are getting better, but there are still none of them that are as powerful and "luxurious" as the high end ten inch tablets on the market.
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Is there anything I wrote that isn't true?
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It's opinion, rather than being true.
Don't think I'll ever buy another 10 incher as they are too big and clunky for general lounging about the house.
For me, the nexus 7 is perfect in terms of size, speed, utility for browsing and email etc. If I need to do any serious typing or work, that's when the tool for that job comes out ie. Iaptop rather than tablet.
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I would never use an ipad because the design is beyond awful. Personally, i don't like the ios look. It's just me, but it's old, i had my ipod touch for years, I'm done with that look, and every app you get from ios follows the same rounded and glossy theme. I like squares, and i like matte. That aside though, you can barely put icons on the screen, which i guess doesn't matter because anyways because the reason why iblike my two bottom rows of 10 icons is so i can use widgets, which the ipad can't. I also dislike the back button. Unless I'm mistaken, it's still in the upper left? Which means that, right now as i type in portrait mode, i could not go back without setting my device down, repositioning my hands, pressing back, then reholding the device again. Same goes for the status bar (I'm using a kf2 i got from a raffle so it still has a classic status bar, and it's awful, i can't reach the touch of the screen, the idea is great on phones, bad on tablets, it's why they have a bottom status bar)
And in the very end, i like to tinker. I may be odd but in the end of the day i like to play with things. Break things. Get new themes, try new fonts, play with devs unique roms, see what my device can do. That's just so much better on android, especially being here at xda.
I just don't see anything the ipad really does right, uness you do like the look, then having that look across all apps would be nice for you, but the ui is still just annoying to use compared to android for tablets.
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It's opinion, rather than being true.
Don't think I'll ever buy another 10 incher as they are too big and clunky for general lounging about the house.
For me, the nexus 7 is perfect in terms of size, speed, utility for browsing and email etc. If I need to do any serious typing or work, that's when the tool for that job comes out ie. Iaptop rather than tablet.
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Actually, it's completely true. High end tablets such as the Infinity, Nexus 10, and iPad 4 have better hardware and generally better designs.
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iytrix said:
I would never use an ipad because the design is beyond awful. Personally, i don't like the ios look. It's just me, but it's old, i had my ipod touch for years, I'm done with that look, and every app you get from ios follows the same rounded and glossy theme. I like squares, and i like matte. That aside though, you can barely put icons on the screen, which i guess doesn't matter because anyways because the reason why iblike my two bottom rows of 10 icons is so i can use widgets, which the ipad can't. I also dislike the back button. Unless I'm mistaken, it's still in the upper left? Which means that, right now as i type in portrait mode, i could not go back without setting my device down, repositioning my hands, pressing back, then reholding the device again. Same goes for the status bar (I'm using a kf2 i got from a raffle so it still has a classic status bar, and it's awful, i can't reach the touch of the screen, the idea is great on phones, bad on tablets, it's why they have a bottom status bar)
And in the very end, i like to tinker. I may be odd but in the end of the day i like to play with things. Break things. Get new themes, try new fonts, play with devs unique roms, see what my device can do. That's just so much better on android, especially being here at xda.
I just don't see anything the ipad really does right, uness you do like the look, then having that look across all apps would be nice for you, but the ui is still just annoying to use compared to android for tablets.
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To each their own. But it's surprised me how much I've enjoyed my iPad 4 considering the only devices I've purchased in the past two years have been Android devices. The change is definitely welcome...to me, anyway.
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jtc276 said:
Is there anything I wrote that isn't true?
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Yes. 7 inches are better than 10 inches. I sold my transformer for the nexus 7 because the transformer was too large it wasn't all that comfortable for one handed use. It was useless on most games. Typing required the keyboard or pretyping finger stretches. The 7 allows you to do everything a 10 can do but without the bulk. The only benefit a 10 has is if you are sharing a video and therefore need more screen, or you are doing something that requires a lot of screen real estate.
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if you care about having a larger screen for mobile gaming or browsing on the go, if its for home only use i see no reason for a tablet because at this point no tablet are as good at browsing, gaming (depends), or productivity as a full computer. in fact, i got an infinity with dock for school, and later exchanged it for a chromebook because its only a little heavier but works so much better for school because of its great keyboard and much better online google docs experience

nexus 7 [2] too narrow. We need Nexus 8.

I went to best buy to get the Nexus 7 2 and got the iPad mini instead.
After looking at the narrow Nexus 7 it felt like a big phone, didn't like it. I love android, had all the top phones and tablets. Decided to keep the galaxy s4, and for the tablet none of the tablets are any good for android. I feel like the iPad mini has the best size screen even with the low resolution it looks more cleaner and more space on the screen. Android tablets are still can't fide the real comfortable size. Galaxy Tab 3 8 is the best size I wish Nexus was made by samsung . like a Nexus 8.
Android is the best so I might return the iPad mini and get a tab 3 8 inch.
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samomamo said:
I went to best buy to get the Nexus 7 2 and got the iPad mini instead.
After looking at the narrow Nexus 7 it felt like a big phone, didn't like it. I love android, had all the top phones and tablets. Decided to keep the galaxy s4, and for the tablet none of the tablets are any good for android. I feel like the iPad mini has the best size screen even with the low resolution it looks more cleaner and more space on the screen. Android tablets are still can't fide the real comfortable size. Galaxy Tab 3 8 is the best size I wish Nexus was made by samsung . like a Nexus 8.
Android is the best so I might return the iPad mini and get a tab 3 8 inch.
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I have been struggling with the narrower screen myself. My mini is idea screen size and weight. Google has everything else beat except the narrow screen. It really is like a big phone. I will certainly sell this N7 if a mini retina comes out.
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I went to best buy to get the Nexus 7 2 and got the iPad mini instead.
After looking at the narrow Nexus 7 it felt like a big phone, didn't like it. I love android, had all the top phones and tablets. Decided to keep the galaxy s4, and for the tablet none of the tablets are any good for android. I feel like the iPad mini has the best size screen even with the low resolution it looks more cleaner and more space on the screen. Android tablets are still can't fide the real comfortable size. Galaxy Tab 3 8 is the best size I wish Nexus was made by samsung . like a Nexus 8.
Android is the best so I might return the iPad mini and get a tab 3 8 inch.
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great story.
enjoy that god awful display on that tablet.
"none of the tablets are any good for android."
lol okay, that's why the Nexus 7 and New Nexus 7 were such big sellers, right? lol. these whiny threads are getting ridiculous; time for a cleanup.
Its narrow for many reasons.
Easier to hold in one hand, lack of availability of high resolution screen at 8 inch, and battery consumption.
Sorry you got the mini instead but you should've spent more for the iPad 4 instead because the mini is more of a compromise than the new Nexus 7. I personally can't stand using iPad mini due to the screen resolution. I love the 8 inch size but still prefer 1280x800 7 inch, and the new Nexus has 1920x1200 which also has absolutely stunning accurate colors.
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Its narrow for many reasons.
Easier to hold in one hand, lack of availability of high resolution screen at 8 inch, and battery consumption.
Sorry you got the mini instead but you should've spent more for the iPad 4 instead because the mini is more of a compromise than the new Nexus 7
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Just got the mini to try because the screen size was better.
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I wish there was a Nexus 8
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Yea I hate being able to hold my devices in my grips. If I'm not forced to hold it with 2 hands, I don't want it.
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I sort of get what you mean with iPad mini feeling cleaner, the wider screen does look really nice, even with the crap resolution
Although I still hate iPads.
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Just got the mini to try because the screen size was better.
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Lower resolution, slower processor, less RAM, and ****tier GPU.
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I wish there was a Nexus 8
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Galaxy note 3 8.1 maybe what you are looking for... When it hits
I tried to care about your purchase. I really did. But right when the care was about to blossom, it died inside me like my soul.
GTFO of here with your Apple talk....
Let's hijack this thread to be, "How I'm going to spend the extra $70 in my pocket."
I'll start:
With the $70 bucks I saved buying a Nexus 7 instead of an i*ad mini, I'm going to buy a case, a wireless charging station, and a USB OTG cable.
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I wish there was a good 4:3 tablet for Android. It really makes the screen feel much roomier
I myself wish the N7 was a N8, but 16:10 is a perfect balance between text reading and widescreen multimedia, and you're doing a lot of the latter.
I like the narrow shape of the Nexus 7 because it actually fits in the pocket much better than the old one. Ipad mini will not fit in any of my pockets. But I can understand in getting a iPad mini but not this one; wait until they do something with the screen. The mini is old and out gunned by this Nexus and it's a full $100 cheaper when comparing list cost. Even if both were the same price the new Nexus is still the clear winner. There is no competition for the Nexus 7 FHD at the moment. Just stating the facts.
Android tends to have screens that come in 16:9 aspect ratio (or similar size) and iPads use a 4:3 aspect ratio.
Each has their plus and minus. Most prefer watching video on a 19:9 display and internet surfing on iPad type display. Watching video on a 4:3 display bothers me more than surfing on a 16:9 display. I also like the "narrowness" of the new Nexus 7, as it make it easy to hold one handed and adds to portability.
To each their own, as long as you happy... all is good.
As far as non of the Tablets being any good for Android, I and many others would disagree. But it's you opinion, and your entitled to it, but it is just that... an opinion.
I have to say, and don't take this the wrong way. I'm not really sure why you felt the need to make such a post, that really does nothing but clutter the forum. I sometimes have to restrain myself from posting things, because I decide it's just not worth posting and does not contribute to the community.
i don't get how any of you can sit here and claim the screen on the ipad mini is better because it's 1 inch bigger, dstepite it's HORRIBLE, pixelated resolution.
if a screen has crap resolution, it doesn't matter how big it is; it's awful to look at, and it's not a good screen. the ipad mini screen technology is years old, yet STILL more expensive than a nexus 7 which is current tech. i'm sorry, but i'd rather look at an inch smaller screen with a much higher resolution than an ipad mini where you can literally see every single pixel because it's just an awful screen.
Nexus 7 screen is beautiful but too narrow. I'll just give the iPad to my kid and get me a Galaxy tab 3 8inch. Hate the iOS.
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Seems like people will never stop complaining hehe.
2012: Damn the bezel is too huge, they need to narrow it
2013: The bezel is too narrow, I can't do my stuff on it anymore...
I feel you on the size I would kill for a nexus 8 but you just paid more for an 8 inch iPad 2 like 100 dollars more and the new one will be out in September. I love the design and performance of nexus 7 its faster than my gf iPad 4
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jayochs said:
i don't get how any of you can sit here and claim the screen on the ipad mini is better because it's 1 inch bigger, dstepite it's HORRIBLE, pixelated resolution.
if a screen has crap resolution, it doesn't matter how big it is; it's awful to look at, and it's not a good screen. the ipad mini screen technology is years old, yet STILL more expensive than a nexus 7 which is current tech. i'm sorry, but i'd rather look at an inch smaller screen with a much higher resolution than an ipad mini where you can literally see every single pixel because it's just an awful screen.
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Yeah I don't think some of them have used an iPad mini for a day the screen sucks
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